Very nice job on this. How did you get the 3D transparent water to splash?! That's incredible!
Quote from: "Beed28"Very nice job on this. How did you get the 3D transparent water to splash?! That's incredible!
Feed this to Mess so that he can finish Pirate Man plox
I'll take a look at this later.
This needs:
-Floors. 1st floor being MM1 and MM2, and so on until MM7-soontobeMM8 floor.
The only way to get this working properly would be to add teleporters, which would be a terrible idea.
-Pool area being connected to the parking lot area so travelling doesn't take so damn long. Another alternative is A TELEPORTER IN THE LOBBY.
Pool alt-path, probably. Teleporter, less likely, but possible.
-A different-colored carpet for the main building's floor. Preferably one that doesn't even try to clash with the other colors.
Noted.
-Functional TVs. Take a look at CSCM's King's Dimension, and how those TVs work.
Very unlikely, but noted.
-Life/weapon recharge stations, if possible.
The beds are supposed to heal if you stand on them, but something seems to have gone awry. I'll look into it.
-A diving board. If the hotel becomes taller, maybe some of the rooms having balconies that face the pool?
Jack is working on a diving board, as well as fixing the water. Balconies that face the pool would be unlikely, though.
Lastly, if u could put each RM weapon in each room, thatd be great.
Putting a Kyrown in Shade Man's room would be cool.
No.
Each room should have their own layout. Not all the same.
I'm not gonna go that far since that would take more time than it's worth and I want to get this next release out soon, but I will add a few things to certain rooms such as icy terrain or water.
Also, are you going to do all the robot master's rooms, or just these seven generations?
I plan on having up to:
MM1-10 (with Powered Up)
MM&B
MMV
Mega Man, Proto Man, Bass, Roll
Mega Man Killers, Quint
MAYBE:
Dark Men
Doc Robot
Fake Man
Quote from: "TheDoc"Lastly, if u could put each RM weapon in each room, thatd be great.
I had that planned, actually.
Hello Timestopper!
Pfft. I think not.
Do you really think Timestopper's going in there?
1) Frequently hosted/only hosted with classes
2) Weapons like Flame Blast promote filling the pool
I'm gonna move the spawns away from just the parking lot to prevent mass murder of anyone trying to enter.
Somebody's really going to waste all their ammo on that?Gummywormz's bestofbme pack.
Maybe you could make a script that kills the flame blast when it touches the water? Because, honestly, I'd love to see weapons in this map. Another thing you could do (like CSCM 04 Wily's cottage) is replace some things you see with weapons? (i.e sink=Water Wave) not alot of variety though just throwing out suggestions.I can't code.
Script 4 OPEN
{
Delay(10*GetCVAR("gbt_pooltimer"));
ACS_Execute(6,0);
restart;
}
script 7 OPEN
{
if ( GetCVAR("gbt_pooltimer") == 0 ) {
ConsoleCommand("set gbt_pooltimer 600");
ConsoleCommand("archivecvar gbt_pooltimer");
}
}
Script 6 NET
{
AmbientSound("misc/gravitydown",127);
HudMessageBold(s:"Draining pool...";
HUDMSG_FADEINOUT, 1, CR_RED, 0.5, 0.1, 2.0);
Ceiling_LowerByValueTimes8(212,10,321);
TagWait(212);
Delay(10*30);
AmbientSound("misc/gravityup",127);
HudMessageBold(s:"Refilling pool...";
HUDMSG_FADEINOUT, 1, CR_BLUE, 0.5, 0.1, 2.0); ;
Ceiling_RaiseByValueTimes8(212,10,40);
TagWait(212);
}
Gimmicks in the room is yes. Even normal decorations like the cockroach is fine, but give them something unique. For instance, a penguin bomber in Geminiman's closet (you could make one) would be great. I do like the different door textures for each RM. One thing that would be SUPER cool is have a screw currency sysgem (kinda like screw scramble) except u go to reggae on the pool deck to buy stuff of your liking. Lastly, if u could put each RM weapon in each room, thatd be great. Unless you play classes, u've got your megabuster and thats it. I'd wanted this in the othr hotels, too, so hopefully this is the one (preferably on the bed or pillow.
One thing that would be SUPER cool is have a screw currency sysgem (kinda like screw scramble) except u go to reggae on the pool deck to buy stuff of your liking.I had been mulling this idea over for some time. I would love that more than I can say but coding that would be beyond me. If anyone wants to try it I'm all for it. Every hour players would gain a screw or a few. Being killed would not force the player to drop them.
Cartoons (maybe Ruby Spears Megaman)(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2720/11432460.png)
Or maybe we could do a specific channel for each room (i.e. Cloud Man get the weather channel, Clown Man gets Cirque du Soleil, etc.)betterQuote from: "Gizmo The Cat"Cartoons (maybe Ruby Spears Megaman)(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2720/11432460.png)
My intent is to have two or three frames for each channel animation. If you can do the ass frame, it's in for sure. Mega Man's Soccer is a yes. News can be the newscaster from Mega Man 9 with some mystified story, and that'll be sufficient. Can't do a channel for each room because it would eat too many tags.How about that generic "fireplace" channel for FireMan's room?
I'd prefer SmashBro's rendition because I don't like the pixel sizes being different but that image is too fuzzy when it's sized down. If it's fixed, I'll use it. Until then, DarkAura's will go in.
That's four channels as is. Two more and we're good.
•News
•Weather
•Sports
•GUTSMAN!!!
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Rockman Resort will become the new title unless I get any other suggestions.
For a name, how about The Rockman Resort, because alliteration?Ooh pick me, pick me, pick me,pick me,pick me,
Newscaster can be Chest from B&C.
How about Racing?
Oh oh, Racing would be a good one.Yeah, I'm all for this! Have both the reporters and a shot of a car or something and then you're sorted for that idea~
You should make Gravity Man's room upside down.As a mapper I know how much of a pain in the balls this would be, but as a player you have to admit it would be hilarious.
One little suggestion: If Centaur Flash is too OP, why not make it Centaur Arrow in that room?Cause Centaur Arrow is Classes only, and thus would leave a large <!> on the map if classes isn't loaded.
Ah. I wasn't aware of that.Quote from: "Linnie"One little suggestion: If Centaur Flash is too OP, why not make it Centaur Arrow in that room?Cause Centaur Arrow is Classes only, and thus would leave a large <!> on the map if classes isn't loaded.
Not just flashman's room, but ALL rooms with cages can have their weapons taken in the Classes mod.
Perhaps it could be replaced with a new actor that looks like a weapon pickup but can't actually be picked up?
Didn't someone make a weapons pack consisting of the classes exclusive weapon? Why not ask them permission to use that for the map?*Ahem*
Quote from: "Tfp BreakDown"Didn't someone make a weapons pack consisting of the classes exclusive weapon? Why not ask them permission to use that for the map?*Ahem*
Concerning the hotel rooms themselves, perhaps using the "Use" key on a TV to change the channel displayed (and with that they wouldn't change automatically).
Updated mugs look nice, but they look 16-bit, and I would personally prefer the original 8-bit mugs because it feels classic and this IS MM8BDM. Plus, it's alot of work for something that ultimately doesn't need to be updated, but it's up to GBT.I can kinda see where you're getting this; I suppose you could just reduce the colors used for the &Bass and V guys. This project of mine http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac331/Superjustinbros/Sprite%20Sheets/MegaManRobotList.png has the original &Bass RM mugs I found online (they were by someone on the MMKB, Forgot who) and older attempts at making and coloring mugs of the Stardroids.
For when MM&B and MMWW rooms roll around, you can always go to the Rockman & Forte FC site (yes, this is actually a thing) (http://www23.atwiki.jp/rockmanforte/) for some mugshots of the King Numbers and the Genesis Unit.Mind if I use these for my sleeping Class test map as well?
(http://cdn23.atwikiimg.com/rockmanforte/?plugin=ref&serial=151)
And I also was able to find mugshots by the same people for some sort of a Rockman World 5 FC.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5237238/spacerulers.png)
Sure!Quote from: genoFor when MM&B and MMWW rooms roll around, you can always go to the Rockman & Forte FC site (yes, this is actually a thing) (http://www23.atwiki.jp/rockmanforte/) for some mugshots of the King Numbers and the Genesis Unit.Mind if I use these for my sleeping Class test map as well?
(http://cdn23.atwikiimg.com/rockmanforte/?plugin=ref&serial=151)
And I also was able to find mugshots by the same people for some sort of a Rockman World 5 FC.
(http://cutstuff.net/molly/DBBKUP/spacerulers.png)
Concerning the hotel rooms themselves, perhaps using the "Use" key on a TV to change the channel displayed (and with that they wouldn't change automatically).I would love to do that. Really. The issue with that is that would eat up an unbelievable amount of scripts and tags and, while it would be cool, it would be really impractical as well.
...I'd like to see rooms for Light, Cossack, Wily, and Mr. X.The only one that's even remotely viable is Wily, and I'm not keen on adding him for two reasons.
Perhaps somewhere in the hotel there could be a master switch somewhere in the hotel that causes all the TV's in the hotel to turn on/go to the next channel/turn off?Quote from: "Superjustinbros"Concerning the hotel rooms themselves, perhaps using the "Use" key on a TV to change the channel displayed (and with that they wouldn't change automatically).I would love to do that. Really. The issue with that is that would eat up an unbelievable amount of scripts and tags and, while it would be cool, it would be really impractical as well.
No DOS and Challenger from the Future roomsThank you.
With MM&B, I'll probably shove King against the wall and add second rooms for Tenguman and Astroman, though nothing is set in stone.Why don't you just put their MM&B weps in their MM8 Rooms, similar to Mega Man and Roll's Rooms. You could also add MM&B textures to the MM8 rooms since they are very similar. (Though you'll have to wait for said expansion to release)
(Though you'll have to wait for said expansion to release)
I didn't want the weapons, you people did...
@TheDoc: I still say we should get on the MM&B expansion before even thinking about releasing MM9's.
...why are you talking about MM&B in the Hotel thread?
I outlined why we talked about this.Dude, we need all of those Concept Art Masters!(click to show/hide)
But I went too far.
IF that's the case, I'll just throw this thing I made right here.(click to show/hide)
One thing is for sure: there will be no MMDOS or RM&F2 rooms.(http://cutstuff.net/molly/DBBKUP/sadwaveman.png)
DOS robot masters are ugly and I don't see why they're still hailed.(http://cutstuff.net/molly/DBBKUP/sadwaveman.png)
Says the guy who literally put "needs more Honey Woman" on his little grid thing.
Maybe.Quote from: "Magnet Dood"Says the guy who literally put "needs more Honey Woman" on his little grid thing.
You thought I was serious about that one?
Thats a really bad idea I think.Quote from: "Zerokk"Maybe.Quote from: "Magnet Dood"Says the guy who literally put "needs more Honey Woman" on his little grid thing.
You thought I was serious about that one?
But if they were to be included, they should probably be included as a room in a room-
Waveman PC in regular Waveman's room.
I've never seen any "hailing" of the PC Robot Masters being done, the closest thing to that I've ever seen, is when people treat them like they do the normal Robot Masters.This right here pretty much. There is a big difference between these guys and say, the MMU RMs, and that is these guys, though not included in canon, ARE actual Robot Masters from official released games. And seeing as the first one was made by 1 guy, and the second was made in roughly a week, can you truly blame the robot masters themselves for what they turned out to be?
I'll give my own thoughts on giving non-canon Robot Masters rooms. I'd say just give them a separate hotel that's not part of the main hotel. It'd still have the basics like the restrooms, the park/garden, the pool, etc, but it'd just be a different size.Honestly, this is the best thing to do.
I think it's because of it's ridiculous power, since it's hard to hit a player using Sakugarne.That and skilled players can mop up other players with it. Trust me when you see a pro sakugarne user you will know it!
That map was an edit made by Fr3akGamer without my permission. I don't appreciate folks editing my work without even consulting me first, as well as considering it a hotfix to the official deal. That's infuriating and I insist it no longer be distributed.^_^
For God's sake, don't threaten me on account of the idiots causing the trouble. It's not my problem. If it's creating problems for BE, it will be dealt with. Banning my map because of Justified is uncalled for and the mere proposition of it is further infuriating.
There is no v4 version. Only an edit made by Fr3akGamer, once again, without my permission.That's why I did it. In a way, I'm sort of doing you a favor by taking that load off your back.
I may simply update the map in the coming days, but for now, I'm not going to deal with it.
Yes, but you should probably ask for permission first.Umm, even if I did, it'd still make no difference. Besides, the kid's gonna get mad over a little map?
Quote from: "-FiniteZero-"Yes, but you should probably ask for permission first.Umm, even if I did, it'd still make no difference. Besides, the kid's gonna get mad over a little map?
Umm first of all, I wouldn't really mind if that happened with the Cutman code... if you want to edit it, go ahead, it still can't be as popular as the original :pQuote from: "Fr3akGamer"Quote from: "-FiniteZero-"Yes, but you should probably ask for permission first.Umm, even if I did, it'd still make no difference. Besides, the kid's gonna get mad over a little map?
Ok, what the hell are your priorities. What you did is called "theft" or a variant of "plagiarism" kinda sorta it's hard to say.
First of all, the fact that you're calling him a kid is ridiculous but that's not the point here. Let's take your argument about asking permission.
Yeah, GBT probably wouldn't have allowed you to...and that's the end of that. He doesn't let you, you don't do it.
So instead you copy/paste his map, add a bit, and release it. BUT IT'S OK CAUSE IT'S JUST A MAP.
Let's say I find a book.
I like this book.
I copy/paste this book and add 20 new pages of content.
I then release said book as "Insert Book Title Here: Special Edition"
OH WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL OOPS
BUT IT'S OK KID GONNA GET MAD OVER A BOOK
But then again, that involves payment and cash and a minor hotel map doesn't so let's take it back a bit.
You're part of Justified classes are you not?
Let's say I get bored one day and decide to tamper with a little bit of code on Cut Man or something I don't know.
I keep the same class, but add a new attack. I do this for as many classes as I want and then release that class pack "Justified with more or shit" I don't know titles.
According to your logic, this is perfectly fine. You probably wouldn't let me release the classes with one extra move, but I'll do it anyway. And you can't get mad at me either!
Kid gonna get mad over a class mod?
The fact that you took GBT's map doesn't even matter at this point, but the fact that you refuse to acknowledge your actions as wrong and THEN insisting that GBT shouldn't even mind at all that you outright stole his product is the problem here.
So that's that.
>mfw Fr3ak says "it's just a game"Please die. Not everyone can have real life talents like you Smash. Besides, that was before I made some friends. I also only flipped out because I realized an old friend who used to play was coming back to the game and I didn't want to miss his return. So don't blame me for flipping out because I was going to miss the return of one of my best friends in MM8BDM.
>mfw Fr3ak flips out about being banned from Best-Ever
>mfw Fr3ak literally said to the BE mods "this game is my life"
Hi I have no idea what's going on butQuote from: "SmashBroPlusB">mfw Fr3ak says "it's just a game"Please die, not everyone can have real life talents.
>mfw Fr3ak flips out about being banned from Best-Ever
>mfw Fr3ak literally said to the BE mods "this game is my life"
When I say die, I mean for him to jump off this forum and mind his own business.Quote from: "Fr3akGamer"Hi I have no idea what's going on butQuote from: "SmashBroPlusB">mfw Fr3ak says "it's just a game"Please die, not everyone can have real life talents.
>mfw Fr3ak flips out about being banned from Best-Ever
>mfw Fr3ak literally said to the BE mods "this game is my life"
1) Life talents have nothing to do with such an obsession. I don't think I'm particularly talented, but that doesn't mean games are my life because of that.
2) That's a pretty big personal attack, which is not only horrible in itself, but is obviously against the rules.
You know, there's a reason why the Doom community hates us. Because all of us take everything way too seriously.ok i call bullshit on that! i have talked to plenty of doomer's to know that they dont hate Cutstuff they just hate people who lack maturety and who make ass of themselfs and have the stubborness of a steel wall! (well from what i remember at least....)
You mean like people who get butthurt over "stolen" maps?Quote from: "Fr3akGamer"You know, there's a reason why the Doom community hates us. Because all of us take everything way too seriously.ok i call bullshit on that! i have talked to plenty of doomer's to know that they dont hate Cutstuff they just hate people who lack maturety and who make ass of themselfs and have the stubborness of a steel wall! (well from what i remember at least....)
Quote from: "Zard1084"You mean like people who get butthurt over "stolen" maps?Quote from: "Fr3akGamer"You know, there's a reason why the Doom community hates us. Because all of us take everything way too seriously.ok i call bullshit on that! i have talked to plenty of doomer's to know that they dont hate Cutstuff they just hate people who lack maturety and who make ass of themselfs and have the stubborness of a steel wall! (well from what i remember at least....)
It's his own work, and if he wants to work on it, let him. It's not our place to judge the motives of someone like Gumballtoid.
So technically.. you want to update this yourself even though people are willing to update this for you?Yes. Unless I specifically request, I would like nobody to have a hand in my work but myself. In this way I have total control over what is to be modified and I may put out the wad as I see fit. Fr3akGamer tried to justify his actions by claiming to have "made it better," but in reality his additions were extremely lazy and of poor quality, which largely comprised my reasoning behind putting a stop to it. It's similar to the circumstance in which Jdude attempted to update GvH8BDM without Lego's consent and he was chastised as a result (though in that case he politely backed down after the fact, unlike Fr3akGamer).
What I like about the map is that its essentially the one and only 8BDM equivalent of TF2 idle/achievement maps but without the reasons to idle and no achievements: it looks fun to explore, it has things to do, it's not about just killing players and winning the game but about trying out stuff and hanging out. It's very much not a serious map for serious competition, and that is fine. It feels like a leisure map.
It should feel like a relaxing, entertaining resort, with multiple things to look for and enjoy. I'd say it historically introduced players to a concept previously not dwelled by custom maps (I think), and whatever next form should stick to that.
Cut the parking lot because it's flat and open and dumb and no one really likes going there and put the spawns in rooms or even in hallways.
That said, I'd really like folks to stop putting those out since there's like 50 of those out there and I already said I'd resume work on this thing.