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May 21, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
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Re: MM8BDM V2 public opinion poll! - SLOPES!
« Reply #105 on: May 21, 2011, 08:23:50 PM »
Well i've voted yes because they reminds me of Darkman Castle stairs all over. Besides, with some crafy mappers and tricks the texture butchering is avoidable. Like make a stairs but remove/seperate the middle-section of the hallways with stairs and make it a slope instead, having the slope in the middle but the stairs on the sides, not to mention have it lower for that effect. You can also put it higher then the stairs element or equal to it for some kind of (royal) carpet effect. Seems like a pain to make in Doombuilder though, reminds me of the gimmicky sliding doors in Duke Nukem 3D...

Also, i could have sworn i saw slopes in some of the NES megaman games. My eyes rarely decieve me. Though i merely saw it in the video, i dont know if Megaman actually is programmed to walk up slopes instead of treating them like stairs.
As is said above, make sure the projectiles dont cause game-breaking glitches when in contact with slopes.
Edit: Perhaps the slopes thing was just my imagination. Still, platformers. Slopes. They work. So why not in a Megaman-based game? All to improve the gameplay...

May 21, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
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Re: MM8BDM V2 public opinion poll! - SLOPES!
« Reply #106 on: May 21, 2011, 09:04:05 PM »
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Also, i could have sworn i saw slopes in some of the NES megaman games. My eyes rarely decieve me. Though i merely saw it in the video, i dont know if Megaman actually is programmed to walk up slopes instead of treating them like stairs.
Inaccessible/inverted ones from MM1 Wily 2, slopes treated as square platforms in MM2 Wily 1 (first room, egg-like structure outside that small gap) and actual ones in fangames/hack.

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May 21, 2011, 09:18:19 PM
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« Reply #107 on: May 21, 2011, 09:18:19 PM »
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ENDITNOWENDITNOW



I'm going to be honest!

The stairs in Shadow Man's stage are a bitch!
But Shadow Man's stage has Sakugarne AND Rush Coil , both counters to stairs.

May 21, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
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« Reply #108 on: May 21, 2011, 10:10:53 PM »
Again, MM8 and MM&B have slopes.  The X, Zero and ZX games have them as well.  This isn't the end of the frickin' world.

What's more, MM8BDM really ISN'T a platformer and every attempt to make it one just destroys a map's flow, so why this bizarre insistence on limiting a level designer's options?

May 21, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
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Re: MM8BDM V2 public opinion poll! - SLOPES!
« Reply #109 on: May 21, 2011, 11:35:28 PM »
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ENDITNOWENDITNOW



I'm going to be honest!

The stairs in Shadow Man's stage are a bitch!
But Shadow Man's stage has Sakugarne AND Rush Coil , both counters to stairs.

Unless you're playing in LMS or something which has no items for you to get. Though you can get Rush Coil, it's a one time use only.

May 22, 2011, 03:00:38 AM
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« Reply #110 on: May 22, 2011, 03:00:38 AM »
I like the stairs... I haven't had any trouble climbing them.

Sometimes the "flow" of a map should be broken up. just to give some breathing room.

the only set of stairs I would like to actually see go is the one in Wind man's stage. And I would just as soon level it as put in a slope.

May 22, 2011, 07:16:05 AM
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« Reply #111 on: May 22, 2011, 07:16:05 AM »
We're getting Slopes.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo *cough cough* ooooooo......

May 22, 2011, 10:08:04 AM
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Re: MM8BDM V2 public opinion poll! - SLOPES!
« Reply #112 on: May 22, 2011, 10:08:04 AM »
I will make you pay for what you've done!!!

First, there are no slopes in any official 8-bit Megaman game. Second, the stairs have a purpose. They are a challenge! It's everyone's destiny to CHALLENGE THE STAIRS! Even though jumping up them with a high ping can be a pain in the ass. Where would be all the fun without stairs? All the traditional platforming jumping? Useless. All the advantages/disadvatanges of higher/lower terrain? Not existent.
Stairs are necessary and glorious! And also like I said, they're ugly. Just look at them! This is madness!!!

May 22, 2011, 10:35:26 AM
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« Reply #113 on: May 22, 2011, 10:35:26 AM »
Sometimes things like Wind Storms and Bubble Leads can get stuck at the top of slopes... Slopes don't fit here, at all, and I would be really really sad to see them win the poll.

May 22, 2011, 10:55:15 AM
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« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2011, 10:55:15 AM »
Whatever; they're still horrifyingly ugly and are guaranteed to break floor-based and bouncy weapons.

May 22, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
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Re: MM8BDM V2 public opinion poll! - SLOPES!
« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2011, 12:17:57 PM »
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I will make you pay for what you've done!!!

First, there are no slopes in any official 8-bit Megaman game. Second, the stairs have a purpose. They are a challenge! It's everyone's destiny to CHALLENGE THE STAIRS! Even though jumping up them with a high ping can be a pain in the ass. Where would be all the fun without stairs? All the traditional platforming jumping? Useless. All the advantages/disadvatanges of higher/lower terrain? Not existent.
Stairs are necessary and glorious! And also like I said, they're ugly. Just look at them! This is madness!!!

Dude, it's only some of the stairs he's replacing with slopes.


Also, What if you put your slopes with your stairs?




May 22, 2011, 01:19:07 PM
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« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2011, 01:19:07 PM »
That looks fucking sexy.

May 22, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
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« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2011, 03:05:32 PM »
Haha I was going to do that EXACT same thing just to shut people up about the "it looks ugly *sobsob*" comments but DTD saved me the hassle.

May 22, 2011, 03:16:58 PM
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« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2011, 03:16:58 PM »
Pretty much what my post suggested (though i assume they had ideas to do the same/similar idea anyway). I mean, that doesnt look ugly at all. Considering its an entirely different engine there's bound to be differences from the main series anyway.

Also there's still those stairs for those 'hardcore' (fans?) of the series who insist on using stairs. Your decision to slow yourself down now, see how persistent you are to that decision!(Where-ever the stairs allow it that is, i believe Darkman's stairs are SO thin that wont be an option, only visually, maybe.)

May 22, 2011, 03:22:25 PM
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« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2011, 03:22:25 PM »
I'm really stubborn. I don't like how the textures are cut off at an angle! It's just not MM8BDM!

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