MM8BDM Best-Ever Servers

[tsukiyomaru0]

Reading BestEver servers as of now:

MMSP COOP (No BME)
Classes V6F Duel ew (No BME)
Another MMSP COOP (No BME)
Yet another MMSP COOP (No BME)
Classes Saxton Hale also ew (No BME)
MOAR MMSP COOP (No BME)

I realize this isn't all of them but there's just an overload of MMSP COOP.

Also I was on a regular hale server earlier with no BME.

This isn't a problem, I have no idea why you're addressing the 1 in 99 servers that DO have BME.

I think you haven't been around when 6/10 BestEver MM8DM servers were only BME with Classes, Ragenza, Saxton, T Party,,,

[fabledfrostbrand]

Your sarcasm has been noted and the authorities contacted. [/sarcasm]

Thank you and have a good day.

But on a more serious note, making more servers is not the answer. Do you not see how many servers MM8BDM is currently using? How many see very little to no use? Best-Ever servers don't just magically appear out of thin air, you know. Show a little respect for the guys providing them and use them responsibly.

Total agreement here.  As of writing this, there are 19 (!) MM8BDM servers hosted by Best-Ever.  That's freaking rediculous.  I liked it better when the only Best Ever servers were just Deathmatch/Team Deathmatch/the two Duel servers/etc.  Looking at the list of currently hosted Best-Ever servers, there are clearly some servers that should not exist:

:: [BE] New York :: BR91 CLASS SAXTON HALE (why? Classes Saxton Hale is just stupid, and we already have a Vanilla Saxton Hale server anyways)
:: [BE] New York :: Classes V6f Saxton Hale (see above, also why do we need 2 of the same server)

:: [BE] New York :: BR91's 1 FLAG CTF (CTF barely gets any attention as is, so this probably deserves the boot/replace with regular CTF)
:: [BE] New York :: Chaos Generator (Hell Edition) (chaos gen is fun once in a while, but most of the time the same effects are chosen over and over)

:: [BE] New York :: Just Megaman Co-op Updated
:: [BE] New York :: MM8BDM Mission for sane individuals
:: [BE] New York :: MM8BDM Mission Mode Public Demo-for GalaxySisbro
:: [BE] New York :: MMSP Coop (64 players)
:: [BE] New York :: MMSP Public Demo (5 of the same server, seriously???)

:: [BE] New York :: Private MMSP
:: [BE] New York :: Private Server (private servers, seriously? if you want a private server, host it with your own damn bandwidth)

There are probably a few others that could also use the boot, but these are the obvious ones...

It would be nice if people looked at existing servers before hosting their own servers, and if people maintained their servers properly (shutting them down if not in use), but clearly people are even too lazy to do that.  I really think we should just go back to the just the stock servers (Vanilla DM/Duel/etc), a few servers for Classes related stuff, and then a few servers for new releases/other game modes.  We really should not hog more than 10-12 servers or so at a time.

[SmashTheEchidna]

Don't boot CTF. It may be (severely) underplayed, but it's always good to have something different available.

[fabledfrostbrand]

Don't boot CTF. It may be (severely) underplayed, but it's always good to have something different available.

What I meant to say was, boot 1 flag CTF, and just have regular CTF in its place.

[Tengu]

For the record, the only servers on BE that I own right now are Megaman Mafia, and Tsuki's Special Classes TDM.

[Beed28]

They've been hosting Chaos Generator Ver. Hell, the version only ment for an April Fools prank? Wow.

[TailsMK4]

I guess I'll go put regular CTF back up, though I will make it vanilla. At least it is something else to do on MM8BDM if Classes, Roboenza, Saxton Hale, or Deathmatch do not sound good at the moment.

[Rozark]

I guess I'll go put regular CTF back up, though I will make it vanilla. At least it is something else to do on MM8BDM if Classes, Roboenza, Saxton Hale, or Deathmatch do not sound good at the moment.

I wanna throw out there that combining everything with classes is now not only cliche/expected, it's also unoriginal and boring.

[TheDoc]

I wanna throw out there that combining everything with classes is now not only cliche/expected, it's also unoriginal and boring.

/me agrees

[Korby]

There's a reason I was hosting just classes TLMS >_>



I took it down because uki wanted me to put cscm on it

[Gumballtoid]

As of this post, there are 21 Best-Ever servers up.

Two are private servers, which are unnecessary and inconsiderate. Frostbrand put it quite well: host your own. Don't use precious BE bandwidth for limited use. Very rarely do I even see them being used. (Looking at you, Senkle/Light fella).

Six are co-op servers, when there would really only need to be two at max: one for Cooperative and one for Survival. Anymore is just redundant and wasting more BE server capacity.

Four are Saxton Hale servers. Three of those four feature YD classes. I understand Saxton Hale is a popular mod, but there shouldn't be that many of them. Shave off the classes servers and play the game mode as was intended.

Six servers feature YD classes. Three are Saxton Hale servers and one is a private server. The other two are for the Classes TLMS Tourney (which was cancelled and thus shouldn't be up) and the other is a duel server. Five out of six of those don't need to be wasting BE servers when the duel server and maybe a TLMS server are all that are necessary.

Those that I haven't mentioned include a CTF server (basic, seems viable), a One-Flag CTF server (should go down, nobody seems to play), an "unused maps" server (this is non-classes TDM so it seems viable), a special classes server (a unique wad, seems okay), a Hell Chaos Gen server (a joke wad at best, should go down), a Mafia server (unique wad, fairly active, seems okay) and an obstacle course server (appears to be active, unique wad, should be okay).

Of the 21 presently up, roughly 13 of them are unnecessary and redundant, meaning there are only about 8 servers that deserve hosting. That's just ridiculous. If you want to host a server that's already being hosted by BE and you dislike for some inane reason, don't put up another BE server: host your own. Please don't waste bandwidth that is better used elsewhere.

[*Alice]

Because you are THE authority on WAD quality?
While I agree that having multiple servers for the same thing is bad, I don't see any point in saying "This WAD / combination of WADs is bad, it does not deserve to be hosted" (And Saxton with / without classes are two seperate things, they play differently enough).
And yes, private servers on BE should die in a fire.

[MagnetMan497]

As of this post, there are 21 Best-Ever servers up.

Two are private servers, which are unnecessary and inconsiderate. Frostbrand put it quite well: host your own. Don't use precious BE bandwidth for limited use. Very rarely do I even see them being used. (Looking at you, Senkle/Light fella).

Six are co-op servers, when there would really only need to be two at max: one for Cooperative and one for Survival. Anymore is just redundant and wasting more BE server capacity.

Four are Saxton Hale servers. Three of those four feature YD classes. I understand Saxton Hale is a popular mod, but there shouldn't be that many of them. Shave off the classes servers and play the game mode as was intended.

Six servers feature YD classes. Three are Saxton Hale servers and one is a private server. The other two are for the Classes TLMS Tourney (which was cancelled and thus shouldn't be up) and the other is a duel server. Five out of six of those don't need to be wasting BE servers when the duel server and maybe a TLMS server are all that are necessary.

Those that I haven't mentioned include a CTF server (basic, seems viable), a One-Flag CTF server (should go down, nobody seems to play), an "unused maps" server (this is non-classes TDM so it seems viable), a special classes server (a unique wad, seems okay), a Hell Chaos Gen server (a joke wad at best, should go down), a Mafia server (unique wad, fairly active, seems okay) and an obstacle course server (appears to be active, unique wad, should be okay).

Of the 21 presently up, roughly 13 of them are unnecessary and redundant, meaning there are only about 8 servers that deserve hosting. That's just ridiculous. If you want to host a server that's already being hosted by BE and you dislike for some inane reason, don't put up another BE server: host your own. Please don't waste bandwidth that is better used elsewhere.

Completely agree with this. While I don't think we need 13 or so to go, I definitely think there are 5 or 6 that could go. Servers like Saxton Hale classes with so many wads are also using way more bandwidth than needed.

I'm hoping BE can host a vanilla deathmatch server with some of the best map packs -- IX, CSCM, AMP. All the vanilla DM servers nowadays are just default maps and I've never really got to play multiplayer with those great maps -- those are really what most of them are intended for anyways.

[Rozark]

While we do agree that we could trim down the classes with hale/Coop servers, I completely disagree that Gumballtoid is "correct"
Modes such as 1flagctf can stay up due to a diverse amount of choices that are needed so the same things aren't always hosted.
Go host something that needs love, dont kill me when I say screw scramble, not another server that we already have.
Bring in other mappacks and stop "restricting" it for the most part to AMP/CSCM/IX. While those packs may be "great", they feel like they could use some fresh blood.
Bring in variety, get new things going. How can you people possibly just keep doing the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN and not get tired of it (when restricted to the small choices that are given here).

Just.. do something different for a change.

[fortegigasgospel]

I just wanna add to what Rozark said, cause I agree whole heartedly with him, hosting map packs from other people also allows people to make oppinions on the maps and become more likely to give feedback to the mapper, thus they can improve their maps, and future maps/actually want to make more maps.
A large problem I see is that no body ever gets feed back unless they are brand new, and that feedback usually doesn't last long. With the amount of people getting none they tend to feel their maps are getting overlooked or no one wants them to improve, and lose motivation to make maps, thus resulting in less mappers, or at least less skilled mappers.

Moral of the story, host more map packs, give more feedback, help mappers improve so we have more good mappers, watch more expansions get completed (cause we all know maps is usually what kills expansions).