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May 12, 2011, 03:18:26 AM
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Offline Emmanuelf06

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The ping: an important factor?
« on: May 12, 2011, 03:18:26 AM »
I will say YES, because;

this night, i was destroyed on a duel normal mode server by Sean Nelson (sigh.....and the others)

But i do really better in Deathmatchs.

Duel need a good ping because its a head to head (idk how say) and the guy who will have the best ping, will have the best aim advantage.
I couldnt shot Sean Nelson with tomahawk weapon, it hit him but no damage, maybe it was the lag/ping problem.

When saviorsword and muzaru played on my server, i beat Saviorsword 10-1 and muzaru 10-5.
My friend from France, sephiroth, beat the two in a 1vs2 in 2 maps.........on sephiroth server;
BUT when i play on a US server, like saviorsword server, i can't win, specially when they rush on me with Flashman buster in classes mode, and normal mode, i dont say, im destroyed.

I think, if 2 same level have a <80> ping different, i mean, one who have 0 and the others 80, it can be really harder for the 80 ping.

I remember, i played with DTD on his server in the first tournament, i lost the first round, but i won with 1 frag more on my server....

With sephiroth, the ping was really closer, i mean, he had 0 ping and me 80, on his server, i was destroyed completly, but when he played on my server, it was the opposite...

I think, CMM is the best European player because he can be really good at normal duel mode on US server....if he plays on a EU server, it wont be the same thing.

Someone who play always with a lowping, learn better how have an advantage on the others, but when he plays with lag...it can be impossible to him to understand what happens.

Classes modes dont need really a good ping, but it depends of the robotmasters, exemple: Stoneman, Geminiman (except for the buster), Hardman (maybe), Yamatoman (machinegun), can play with a highping, but Metalman, Bubbleman (sniper) and others, not too much.

Anyways, the ping is your best friend, i think.

May 12, 2011, 05:07:44 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 05:07:44 AM »
I'm surprised at you.
This seems like an attempt to placate your ego.

Obviously, a higher ping implies an advantage, that isn't news to anyone.
However, it is not a large advantage unless the ping difference is considerably large.
Moreover, while ping contributes to lag, it does not cause weapons to land and not do damage.
I don't know where you're getting that from, but I am pretty sure that is not something that lag is capable of.

In my experience, a ping difference of 100 is of rather small consequence in battle.
I wouldn't even consider it when predicting a winner at that point.
I've hosted enough servers to know that the advantage is small at best.

All in all, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
It's okay to lose, and it's okay to win too.
But blaming small differences in ping is rather childish.
After all, Rawk Hawk plays with 200+ ping.

May 12, 2011, 06:42:56 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 06:42:56 AM »
No, he plays with 40  :lol:

May 12, 2011, 06:45:16 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 06:45:16 AM »
So you made a thread essentially saying those with low lag have an advantage over those with high?

May 12, 2011, 06:58:49 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 06:58:49 AM »
No, everybody can say if the ping is really an advantage or not. Just to know.

May 12, 2011, 10:16:35 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 10:16:35 AM »
Quote from: "Ivory"
So you made a thread essentially saying those with low lag have an advantage over those with high?
Low Ping > High Ping.
Low Ping = Faster Reaction and way easier Gameplay.

May 12, 2011, 10:43:45 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 10:43:45 AM »
Yeah, there isn't really anything to discuss here.

May 12, 2011, 10:46:25 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 10:46:25 AM »
I play as high as 130 and I do about as fine with 70 ping >.>

May 12, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 10:50:03 AM »
I'll agree that it's an attributing factor, but it's certainly not a decisive one. At most it's a tiebreaker between equally skilled players. Unless the ping difference is 500+, you aint going to get much of an advantage of it.

May 12, 2011, 11:06:36 AM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 11:06:36 AM »
Quote from: "Myroc"
I'll agree that it's an attributing factor, but it's certainly not a decisive one. At most it's a tiebreaker between equally skilled players. Unless the ping difference is 500+, you aint going to get much of an advantage of it.

Sure it's not so a big advantage but yeah, youre right.

May 12, 2011, 12:55:11 PM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 12:55:11 PM »
I've made 1st place with 250 ping quite a few times.

May 12, 2011, 03:31:51 PM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 03:31:51 PM »
I think there's a bit to discuss here.

First off, no one has yet mentioned what ping is actually measuring. It may be obvious to some, but to most of the teenagers in this community it could use an explanation.

The number you refer to as ping is measured in milliseconds. Contemporary psychoacoustic theory dictates that two events occurring <= 24 ms apart are perceived as the same event. I submit that there is a substantial difference between server hosts and the average player connecting to the same server in terms of their gameplay experience.

For this reason I do not think that participants should be hosting in tournament matches where they are also playing because the advantage is simply too large. In MM8BDM hitting is worth more than damage.

Some additional resources for those of you who think there's nothing to discuss.

http://jslhr.asha.org/cgi/content/abstract/45/6/1285
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/18/7404.abstract

May 12, 2011, 06:11:21 PM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 06:11:21 PM »
YES he is !


Yeah, we all know, the ping cause difficult on gameplay, and reaction time. I've heard that the ping affect the speed of your movement, so ˙es, ping is an important factor.  :mrgreen:

May 12, 2011, 06:18:43 PM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011, 06:18:43 PM »
Try playing on chilean servers and see what happens. (If you don't get kicked)

May 12, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
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Re: The ping: an important factor?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011, 06:45:37 PM »
Quote from: "Stonefunk"
Anyways, the ping is your best friend, i think.
Ping is a enemy for me and my brother in Skulltag :ugeek:

Until today I haven't win a duel. I never blamed my ping, my skill is very very bad in duels (for example rana could beat me in my server).

Answering your question: For me ping isn't an important factor (if you are good anticipating your shoot): internet connection is more important because if you don't have 100% connection to x server you will lag.

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