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Our community is dying. And for three reasons.#1. Our community majority player-base is made up of selfish, jaded users, who will resist change of any kind. They refuse to take anything seriously, and seek to discredit anyone and anything that shows direct opposition to what they believe is correct.#2 Our game-modes, and the choices and popularization of said choices of servers hosted with them, have gotten to the point it has made the base-game itself stale and uninteresting.#3 The people who know that it's a problem refuse to do anything to change it, because they believe it is inevitable, and those who don't know can't figure out why it is, because every-time we try to discuss it, people destroy the debate and discussion before it can even start.
Quote from: "-RanRan"Our community is dying. And for three reasons.#1. Our community majority player-base is made up of selfish, jaded users, who will resist change of any kind. They refuse to take anything seriously, and seek to discredit anyone and anything that shows direct opposition to what they believe is correct.#2 Our game-modes, and the choices and popularization of said choices of servers hosted with them, have gotten to the point it has made the base-game itself stale and uninteresting.#3 The people who know that it's a problem refuse to do anything to change it, because they believe it is inevitable, and those who don't know can't figure out why it is, because every-time we try to discuss it, people destroy the debate and discussion before it can even start....Is there an actual issue, or do you just feel like insulting everyone?
Now that we understand those are the underlying problems causing our death, we need to think of ways to stop it from happening, and then we need to act on them.
I warn you though, many of the side conversation are basically " Lol -Ran, trying to save 8BDM"
My reasoning for this being, if Cutstuff is truly going to shit, how do we still have a thriving community that continues to maintain a friendly relationship with each other?
That is correct, I don't feel like there's an issue. I see things like these pop up all the time, and it amazes me.My reasoning for this being, if Cutstuff is truly going to shit, how do we still have a thriving community that continues to maintain a friendly relationship with each other?I might be missing something, but I haven't noticed an issue. Why fix what isn't broken? If you want to play a gamemode, actually play the gamemode. Complaining about the popular mode won't accomplish a thing.
Quote from: "-Ranran"Now that we understand those are the underlying problems causing our death, we need to think of ways to stop it from happening, and then we need to act on them.You have no basis to fix the issue at hand. You're saying CS is dead because of toxic players. Whether or not this is true is irrelevant- people aren't going to hand you the answer if you throw this kind of accusation out into the public forum.QuoteI warn you though, many of the side conversation are basically " Lol -Ran, trying to save 8BDM"No, the issue at hand was that you had literally everyone invite everyone and then were amazed when the chat devolved into a shitposting spree. Then, you were surprised when people left the chat after you muted all of them. People are not going to engage in discourse when they're gagged, nor would they want to be in a chat that amounts to you preaching about why the community is full of toxic players.Quote from: "ThunderErectlos"My reasoning for this being, if Cutstuff is truly going to shit, how do we still have a thriving community that continues to maintain a friendly relationship with each other?Ok, no. While this thread may not have a basis, Cutstuff is anything BUT thriving. And if you're talking about the Skype chats, I would rather try to have a friendly discussion on /b/. At least there, people don't recognize each other so that they can hold a grudge.
I know it won't stop them from doing it, but for those you who decided to be fully against either because of me backing it, disagreeing with my opinions, views, and ideas of how to solve the problem, I beg you not post here for the sake of bringing it down.If you find yourself compelled to post negatively, please let it be constructive.
Also, you're attacking me.
If you find yourself compelled to post negatively, please let it be constructive.
#1. Our community majority player-base is made up of selfish, jaded users, who will resist change of any kind. They refuse to take anything seriously, and seek to discredit anyone and anything that shows direct opposition to what they believe is correct.Excuse me? I can name a few people like that, but majority is an incredible overstatement. And what "change" are you talking about? Nothing has changed here other than the fact that Saxton Hale is hosted and played much more frequently than many other game modes. Nothing can really change that, sadly.#2 Our game-modes, and the choices and popularization of said choices of servers hosted with them, have gotten to the point it has made the base-game itself stale and uninteresting.This topic comes up every year. I know I bash on saxton a lot, but I've recently found out how fun it is to invite my friends from Tengu's skype group to come play vanilla DM or LMS games.#3 The people who know that it's a problem refuse to do anything to change it, because they believe it is inevitable, and those who don't know can't figure out why it is, because every-time we try to discuss it, people destroy the debate and discussion before it can even start.Welcome to the internet. People have differing opinions, and they will argue as such. Hell, we're doing it right now. To be honest, it's really making a mountain out of a mole hill.Also, this doesn't happen EVERY time. While you were off in nowhere-land, we had a discussion not too long ago about this exact same thing. The discussion WAS a serious debate, and wasn't killed off by anything (mostly because it wasn't a skype call that people were forced into late in the day, under the label EMERGENCY)