The Idea(s) Topic

[Magnet Dood]

Sounds pretty interesting to me. If you've got a pipe frame kart already finished, I might be willing to help out with it by putting drivers on it and such.

[Superjustinbros]

I sadly don't have a Pipe Frame skin on the ready at the moment.

[fortegigasgospel]

In light of Evil Escort just released by Mike, I came up with a series of very rough draft classes for "Team Games"
Much like Overwatch they fit into 4 categories: Offense, Defense, Tank, and Support.
The catch is, other then the 4 main characters, I only picked 1 character per game (1 - 10, V, &B, as well as DOS, DOS3, DOSReborn, &B2, and Strategy). My reasonings are as followed:
[*]More classes = harder balancing
[*]No over saturation of a single game (IE: Mega Man 1/2 having more characters present then the others)
[*]More diversity in the characters present (Arguably only 2 characters share a theme)
Interestingly enough, I ended up having 21 classes (same number as Overwatch), not intended though. 6 Offense, 6 Defense, 5 Tanks, and 4 Support. These ideas are intended to lack weapon pick ups, again for balancing reasons. I also included a general "idea" for each under their abilities.
so now without further ado:

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Mega Man - Defense
HP = Average
Chargeable weak long range buster = Charge is powerful, large, but slow.
Slide has mid cool-down and short range (for quickly getting in and out of cover).
(His charge is his bread and butter, takes time but deals large damage)

Proto Man - Tank
HP = Average
Chargeable weak long range buster = Charge is powerful but short range (special from Arcade).
Shield has HP bar that recovers over time.
Long range dash with long cool-down (for getting him into the front line).
(Shield has lots of HP to counter his own low HP for a tank, but only protects him from the front)

Bass - Offense
HP = Low
Weak long range rapid fire buster.
Dash holds 2 charges (for getting in and out of battle).
Double Jump (for getting into vantage points) (No cool-down).
(Pick off already weakened enemies retreating for health, or get the damage in to help your stronger allies finish them)

Roll - Support
HP = Low
Melee range roll swing knocks enemies back.
Tosses mid-heal recovery, uses charges.
Skip jumps forward quickly (helps clear gaps and get closer to the team)
(Mobile healer so allies don't have to run looking for health, but needs to watch charges)

Cut Man - Defense
HP = Low
Rolling Cutter
Scissor Chop (Close range high damage)
Wall Jump
(Defense due to Rolling cutter's better against approaching targets, finish them off with a Scissor Chop)

Quick Man - Offense
HP = Low
Quick Boomerang (Fires up to three forward)
Quick Boomerang (Fires three which must return before being fired again)
(Faster but doesn't deal a lot of damage, designed for hit and runs)

Snake Man - Defense
HP = Average
Search Snake
Snake Mine (Burrows a destroyable snake which will attack if someone gets near)
Wall Climb
(Vantage points for sending snakes into battle from a distance, burrowing snake is to help give a bit extra protection)

Pharaoh Man - Offense
HP = Average
Pharaoh Wave (chargeable, fires in 3 directions at full charge)
Pharaoh Shot (fast thrown shots)
Air Dash (holds 3 charges)
(Heavy damage close range attacker able to move in fast, pick him off from a distance)

Stone Man - Tank
HP = High
Power Stone
Stone Wall
Stomp Attack
(Great for crowds and walls can help block shots)

Plant Man - Support
HP = Low
Seed Bomb (fires shots like grenades (doesn't explode))
Plant Sentry (fires a seed that sprouts a flower turret, flower turrets have low RoF and are destroyable)
Plant Barrier (gives ally 20 HP shield)
(Temporary health boosts for allies and sentries for point defense)

Slash Man - Offense
HP = Low
Slash Claw
Goo Bomb (slows hit enemy)
Wall climb
(Fast but frail, Goo Bombs make easier targets, watch out for tanks)

Astro Man - Support
HP = Mid
Astro Ball (throws orbs which loop around in front)
Copy Image (makes an image of target ally follow them)
Floating (can hover a short distance)
(Try to confuse enemies with images, attack is weak but has good coverage)

Concrete Man - Tank
HP = High
Concrete Shot
Bull Charge (rushing attack that deals high damage to first target)
Concrete shot can create steps to help allies take shorter paths, bull charge is slow but strong)

Chill Man - Defense
HP = Low
Chill Shot (larger arc range, better damage)
Chill Spike (cool-down ability)
Ice Dash (air dash, has cool-down)
(Lay spikes to make enemies be more careful in areas, try to keep with allies due to frailness)

Burner Man - Defense
HP = Mid
Wave Burner
Grenade Toss
Bear Trap
(Traps stun enemies, then move in for the kill, grenade is weak but has a high arc)

Mars - Offense
HP = Average
Gatling Gun
Photon Missile
Death Mine (drops a timed mine on death)
(Gatling isn't powerful but has good range, Photon Missile is easy to dodge but hits hard, use the better for your situation)

Aircon Man - Tank
HP = High
Barrier Wind (sends slow shot forward, soaks up attacks, low RoF)
Cloud Stone (slow moving blocks forward, can be stepped on, long cool-down)
Fan Pull
(Stones push players along with them, all attacks disrupt enemy attacks, and pull can draw them in for allies, be warned though, enemies can use your stones)

Volt Man - Tank
HP = Average
Force Field (HP shield blocks damage from all sides, lowers his speed while up)
Field Burst (Shoots slow strong orb forward and 2 slow weak waves diagonally)
(Shield protects from all directions but slows you down, cover your allies advance then use your burst while they distract the enemies)

Shark Man - Offense
HP = Mid
Shark Boomerang (throws boomerang that sits at max range a moment before returning)
Shark Splash (creates a splash that hits nearby enemies)
Shark Dive (dives into the ground to move for a set time, can be seen)
(Use boomerang for forward enemies and splash to hit any next to you. Dive can allow you to get close protected)

Petrol Man - Support
HP = Mid
Oil Spill (Streamed shot, deals minor damage, lowers enemy traction)
Oil Stream (fires a slow moving shot that deals mid damage and oil splatters target's screen) (cool-down)
Spill (drops an oil spill that causes next person to step on it to slide uncontrollable the direction they were moving) (can help allies move back to fight, or cause enemies to slide away)
(Use spill after spawning for the next ally to slide on, during battle disrupt opponents to make it harder for them to fight your allies)

Fan - Defense
HP = Average
Talisman (uses selected element) (Fire: Circular flame. Water: Geyser across floor. Wind: Gust of wind forward. Earth: Rock spike set distance ahead)
Talisman Swap
(Changing talisman changes your attack, swap to the one best suited for the situation)

With the exception of Fan all are of their game's "main" bosses. The inclusion of Petrol Man was due to the DOS Reborn expansion and to help fit in an extra support character.
RKN/MKN, Quint, and Genesis Unit ideas possibly to come.
Potential "Ultimates" possible too.

[Superjustinbros]

These are some pretty good concepts.

[fortegigasgospel]

Forgot to mention, like TF2 and OW the concept for those classes also is based around everyone moves at the same speed. So Quick Man should have a sprint like Soldier: 76 while Slash would use his Goo to slow targets down instead of speeding himself up.
Also, did Enker, Punk, and Ballad

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Enker - Tank
HP = Average
Mirror Buster (forward attack, power increases based on charge level)
Charge (stands still and charges damage into his main, charge decays over time)
Sprint (boost of running speed to balance out his HP)
(Lower HP then most tanks, makes up for it with his ability to sprint)

Punk - Defense
HP = Average
Screw Crusher Straight (lower rof)
Screw Crusher Toss (fires up to three screw crushers upward that arc back down)
Screw Rush (Pauses for a moment before doing a forward attack, limited distance, stops at first target, has cool-down)
(Toss has shorter range and can only have a limited number of shots out, Straight has better range. Due to delay on Rush it should be used against distracted enemies or when you know they are approaching from around cover)

Ballad - Offense
HP = Average
Ballad Cracker (forward attack, has a long rof)
Cracker Mine (drops a Ballad Cracker that sits on the ground a moment)
Lunge (forward lunge to get over pits or battle)
(Main attack has a long rof, use lunge to get away from enemies while you ready another shot and mine to cover your escape)

Still managed to have no conflicting themes I think. Quint concept will come later once I can figure out how to not have him use AOE as well as not completely based around the Sakugarne.

[fortegigasgospel]

Ok, Quint and Genesis Unit rough concepts done. This brings the class count up to 28. 8 Offense and Defense, 7 Tanks, and 5 Support.

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Quint - Support
HP = Average
Quint Buster (reliable mid range weapon)
Sakugarne Crash (take a jump on the Sakugarne, rocks shoot out when you land)
Summon Sakugarne (Sakugarne waits for an ally to reach it and jumps with them once)
(Better health for a support character and a reliable weapon allows you to stay in the battle longer, help allies or yourself get the jump on the enemy team with Sakugarne)

Buster Rod G. - Offense
HP = Low
Power Pole (extends pole to attack, hit box blocks certain shots)
Pole Spin (temporarily blocks attacks from the front, has a cool-down)
Wall Climb
(Use wall climb to help sneak up on enemies. Pole Spin blocks attacks but only stays active a short amount of time, attacking will cause it to deactivate)

Mega Water S. - Defense
HP = Low
Harpoon (Fast travel speed, low RoF)
Water Spray (limited range single shot that pushes enemy away)
Kappa Barrier (Shield that blocks 1 hit, cool-down kicks in after it goes down)
(Attack enemies from a distance and use your spray to push them away for your escape, your shield only blocks 1 hit so don't relay on it)

Hyper Storm H. - Tank
HP = Very High
H. Blaster (low RoF shot that deals heavy damage, but damage decays as it travels)
Storm Breath (powerfully pulls enemies in front for a short time, cool-down activates afterwards)
R&R (heals a percentage of HP over time, long cool-down)
(Has the most HP but is the easiest target, Storm Breath is stronger then Aircon's Fan pull but has to cool down, remember to use R&R between fights)

Since the Killers and Genesis Unit were each an offense, defense, and tank, and I made Quint last, I figured another support was needed and tried to think of how Quint could be one, so the idea for him is he is decent in a fire fight (unlike the other support characters) while using Sakugarne to help give allies a tactic to close in on the enemy as them suddenly launching into the air and closing in fast can possibly be trickier to stop then a typical advance and can use his own self version to close in and cause trouble in the middle of the enemy team, or possibly get him or an ally behind them.
HSH's second ability sounds like Aircon's third but the idea is Aircon's is a light pull and able to be streamed while HSH's goes for a set amount of time and has a more powerful pull.
I don't think I'll be doing any more after this.

Edit: Also yes, MWS is supposed to be a sniper.

[Korby]

Most of the classes in TF2 have differing movement speeds.

If the idea was to include one from each game, why make the entire Genesis Unit?

[fortegigasgospel]

Most of the classes in TF2 have differing movement speeds.

If the idea was to include one from each game, why make the entire Genesis Unit?

Huh, I didn't know all the TF2 ones moved different speeds, I thought that was related to load outs. Though that was an assumption anyway. Probably should have asked about that first.
I did the entire Genesis Unit under the premise of "since I did all 3 Megaman Killers and Quint I should probably do all 3 Genesis Unit also to prevent "you did <enter which I picked here> but not the other 2/<enter person's preferred GU>!" though the later could be said about all the game's characters.
Though yea, I did say 1 per game, personally I'd drop Buster Rod and Hyper Storm in favor of Mega Water, since he is designed to be a sniper while dropping HSH makes easier room to possibly do Duo, though there isn't much he would bring in that is new either.

[fortegigasgospel]

Ok further ideas for it: different releases. This would mainly cut back on amount of work needed at a time with it's own expansion packs to add more classes. Also Buster Rod and Hyper Storm are dropped to follow the one main boss per game.
Team Classes Core Version: Covers the characters from the games covered by core. 1 - 10, V, WT, &B, and the 4 mains, totaling to 16 classes: 5 Offense, 5 Defense, 3 Tanks, 3 Support. No Killers or Quint because the GB games (minus V) are not actually covered by core.
Extended Version: Adds DOS, DOS2, &B2, Strategy, and the first four GB games. That is 8 more classes: 2 Offense, 2 Defense, 3 Tanks, and 1 Support.
Strength in Numbers Version (named and based off the SP mod of the same name): Adding special characters namely Duo, Doc Robot, Fake Man, and Dark Man. Unsure of any others who might fit into this. Yes these break the 1 boss per game but all of these 4 are special bosses with no dropped weapons. Also obviously only conceptual anyway.
and lastly Plus Version: This version would add namely fan game characters for a bit of limelight, Yoku Man from Unlimited, Petrol Man from DOS Reborn, Soak Man from SFR, our very own Maestro, and bosses from Rokko-Chan, Time Tangent, and Rock Force.
Possibly ideas for Quake Woman and a Robotized Master (possible Sonic) from the cross overs, just not sure which they would fit into, possibly SiN.
I already have ideas for Duo, Fake, Dark, Yoku, and Soak. Who I will list now.

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Duo - Defense
HP = High
Duo Fist (Extending punch attack, low damage but can be used rapidly, based off his uncharged version from the game)
Justice Fist (Ground pound attack that rushes forward slightly to hit enemies nearby)
Charge Tackle (forward dash that damages and pushed hit enemy)
(Duo has very limited range but hits hard, his special attacks need plenty of cool down time but disrupt enemies greatly)

Fake Man - Offense
HP = Mid
Revolver Buster (holds 6 shots, holding reloads)
Rapid Shot (fires remaining shots rapidly)
Sprint
(Can hit hard and has no cool downs, but a long reload time makes up for it)

Dark Man - Tank
HP = Average
Dark Buster (Shots are strong but damage decays quickly over time)
Dark Shield (Shield will go up for a temporary amount of time, blocking some shots and dealing damage to enemies)
(While he can fight at distances he doesn't hit hard due to damage decay. His shield doesn't offer full protection and has a long cool down)

Yoku Man - Defense
HP = Mid
Yoku Shot (Straight forward attack that deals low damage, pressing button again causes it to redirect to nearest enemy if one is close, can only be done once per shot)
Yoku Block (creates a Yoku block that acts as a platform to jump onto, holds 3 charges)
Yoku Block? (creates 2 Yoku blocks that transform and hunt down enemies for a short time, can be destroyed)
(Main weapon can only fire one shot at a time but can hit enemies around cover. Blocks have limited time but help allies get to higher ground. Blocks? stay still for a short time but hunt down enemies who draw near)

Soak Man - Offense
HP = Average
Super Soaker (straight forward water shot)
Soak Rain (fires three clouds that arc upwards while pouring rain below)
Bubble Bouncer (releases a bubble that bounces around for a short while or until it hits an enemy)
(Main shot is good at most ranges, while his abilities devastate enemies at close ranges. Rain is better in rooms with high roofs while Bubble Bouncer is better in closed spaces)

If anyone wants to help come up with ideas for Doc bot, Maestro, and/or who to use from Rokko, TT, Rock Force, or other fan games (released or long development like TT only please) with a rough concept, feel free to pass them my way.

[Superjustinbros]

Breaking off from Forte's Team Games idea for a bit, for a while now I've been thinking of a Guilty Gear themed expansion for Unholy, featuring skins, maps, and weapons from the series (mostly themed off of Xrd SIGN and REVELATOR).

[fortegigasgospel]

No team classes this time around as I haven't been able to come up with ideas for the remaining characters.
This time around the Adventure Mode mod I posted in screenshots a few days ago.
The idea was to have a Single Player mode exploring maps and gathering items to progress using a hub to connect them, if possible of course.
I've thought about 2 adventures so far being based off Legends and Legends 2. The key differences was the base of classic instead in way of weapons but to change experience of each play through 4 classes would be available each getting weapons based off bosses from different games (most of which serving the same exact roles as each other while being based off the weapons of Legends).
Each character has 3 full games of 8 they get weapons from (1-10, &B, and V), as well as a mixture of bosses from all the other games (Killers, Genesis, DOS, DOS3, &B2, Dreamwave, and Strategy). Quint being the only boss that gave a weapon (technically) who is not on anyone's list (Genesis didn't give weapons though). This is a total of 33 bosses fitted to each of the 4 classes to have weapons based off of to fill in for the Legends Weapons.

"But FGG Legends only had 16 different weapons between both games!"

Yes, originally the 4 classes were only going to have 2 games each. A 3rd was added to each as an extra to help fill in gaps were no associated boss was able to fill in and for more weapons that might appear in future adventures. Eventually I decided to add more to them to help give more verity for weapons. Note that not all bosses have to actually have a weapon, or even their actual given weapon, but simply a weapon based off that boss if they end up being used.
So without further ado the classes, their general differences, and their bosses.
Mega Man

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Main Fire: Mega Buster (moderate firing rate)
Secondary Fire: Charge Buster (moderate damage)
-Mobility: Slide
Weapons based off MM1 and MM9 bosses. Extra weapons come from MM6, MMKs, Buster Rod, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, Komuso, and Express.
MM1 and MM9 were due to Light robots. MM6 was the only not able to be associated with the other characters. Only Mega gets the Killer's weapons in MM10. Cancer Scorip and Pisces are all water signs, fitting to Mega's blue coloring. Komuso's weapon was used by R-Shadow, fitting Mega would have this one.

Proto Man

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Main Fire: Proto Buster (slower firing rate)
Secondary Fire: Charge Buster (slightly higher damage)
Proto Shield blocks some non-explosive attacks from the front.
-Mobility: Slide
Protoman takes more damage from enemy attacks.
Weapons based off MM3 and MM5 bosses. Extra weapons come from MM10, Mega Water, DOS1, Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Aircon, and Clock.
MM3 was Proto's first appearance, and MM5 was centered around him. MM10 was the first console game he was canonically playable. The first DOS game came out the same year as MM3. Aries, Leo, and Sagittarius are all fire signs, to match his red.

Bass

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Main Fire: Bass Buster (lower damage, higher rate of fire)
Secondary Fire: Charge Buster (low damage but fast charge time)
-Earns double jump instead of high jump
-Mobility: Dash
Bass is better at killing weaker enemies, but stronger enemies take much longer
Weapons based off MM2 and MM7 bosses. Extra weapons come from MM&B, Hyper Storm, Torch, Shark, Bit, Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn, Dangan, Barrage.
MM2's bosses were Wily's first robots, fitting Bass would get weapons from them. MM7 also being his first appearance. MM&B being Bass' first console game playable as well. Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn are all earth signs, seeing a pattern here? Barrage Man is litterally the meaning of Bass' Japanese name, Forte: Large and Powerfully. Bass was given the 3 bosses from 3 for PC what do not share names with future bosses.

Duo

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Main Fire: Duo Fist (short range, high damage)
Secondary Fire: Charge Fist (longer charge time, deals high damage)
-Mobility: Tackle Dash (deals low damage, good for finishing off weakened enemies)
Duo moves a bit slower but takes reduced damage, high damage output makes him good at killing bigger enemies.
Weapons based off MM4 and MM8 bosses. Extra weapons come from V, Terra, DOS Oil, DOS Wave, DOS Blade, Gemini, Libra, Aquarius, Konro, and Multi.
Duo was originally going to be a Cossack robot in the early stages of 8's development so MM4 bosses to fit in with that. MM8 was Duo's first chronological appearance. All the bosses from V and Terra of course are all from space, much like Duo. Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius are all air signs, the sky is often revered to as "the heavens" which space is beyond. Konro also due to the pick given to Duo has no one who is clearly fire (Pharaoh is, as well as Sword though). Duo was given the 3 bosses from 3 for PC who's names did later get used in Capcom made games.

Lastly the classifications of weapons, which I categorized each weapon from the 2 Legends games into. These are where the boss weapons given need to fill in. I have some ideas but they are all concept in case better ones come up or this never gets off the ground.

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<Weapon Class - Usage = Legends Example>
Homing Class - Tracks Enemies = Active Buster/Homing Missile
Slasher Class - Melee Weapon = Beam Blade
Wrecker Class - Path Opener, Melee = Drill Arm
Bomb Class - Light Path Opening Large Explosive = Grand Grenade/Crusher
Grenade Class - Bouncing Small Explosive = Grenade Arm/Reflector Arm
Rapid Fire Class - Quick Shooting Combat Weapon = Machine Buster/Machine Gun Arm
Bazooka Class - Large Explosion Projectile = Powered Buster/Hyper Shell
Cannon Class - Heavy Damage Projectile = Buster Cannon
Ripper Class - Piercing Weapon = Shining Laser
Shield Class - Projectile Defense = Shield Arm
Mine Class - Point Trap = Splash Mine
Burst Class - Scatter Shot = Spread Buster
Tractor Class - Item Retrieval = Vacuum Arm
Douser Class - Fire Dousing = Aqua Blaster
Crawler Class - Floor Hugger = Ground Crawler
Drone Class - Combat Assistance = Hunter Seeker
Electrical Class - Charges Machines = None
Scorcher Class - Burns obsticals = None
Weather Class? - AOE = None
Time Class? - Slows enemies = None
Ultimate Class? - Character's True Power = None

The last 5 are unique to this list and would be for other adventures, last 3 purely conceptual.
Note weapons bundled together were either renamed between games or replaced in the second with something identical in function.
I have fitted a boss to each so far, but as stated earlier only concepts and subject to change.

The only bosses who are not in this list are

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Quint (he was not bundled with the Killers, since he isn't actually one)
King
Compass Man
R-Shadow
Dark Man
Fake Man
Doc Robot

[Superjustinbros]

All I really want to add is I'd like to make (or lead) some sort of Guilty Gear-themed expansion, primarily themed around Xrd (maybe with elements/alternate skins form earlier installments), with at least 23 character skins and weapons, 19 maps, and a class mod of sorts that'd be released alongside the expansion.

[GameAndWatcher]

I just thought of something. Why hasn't anyone at least made a concept thread for a potential Shovel Knight Expansion? It'd be freaking awesome! (assuming it gets finished)

[Gummywormz]

Competitive Role Playing: Each player gets a set of 3 or so goals to complete. These can be getting to a certain number of frags, getting certain weapons, or surviving for a certain amount of time. The player who completes these goals first wins.

[tsukiyomaru0]

So, since Metroid Prime Federation Force is out and the Blast Ball demo is temporarily playable... How about me make make a Buster Ball with similar rules and ideas, but having some more flexibility (for example: a version that uses the "Classes" idea.)