FGG's resource stuff (Weapon Get + Pick ups)

[fortegigasgospel]

Its not Fake 3D its me simply ripping the textures and coloring them completely forgetting to make new ones to fill in the blanks.

I've already begun III, skipping Shadow for the same reasons as Needle and Top. Gemini has some new crystals and the webs are animated, though I don't know how I'm gonna do the frames cause they use distortion animation. Snake's new background is being done once I figure out how I'm gonna do the moved frames and I'm gonna rip the thin sections.
The entirety of the bosses from 4 need to be ripped minus Skull having already been done but they had completely new textures. Wondering if I should make them uniform with Punk's tiles cause of them taking place within the same fortress.

[NemZ]

I know it's not you man, I'm just pointing out things that need work before they would be actually useable in-game.

Very interesting color choices though.  "crash man 2: night time is the right time".

[fortegigasgospel]

I know it's not you man, I'm just pointing out things that need work before they would be actually useable in-game.

Very interesting color choices though.  "crash man 2: night time is the right time".

I understand, and its helping me get them done and better each time. As for the colors, I've been saving every map and using the color copy tool in paint.net to ensure I am using the exact colors from the original stages, even if 8bdm doesn't use those colors. The background actually comes from the night sky from the NES and the dark blue sky right before it.

Side note I got the tree animations from Snake GB. Gemini will still be tricky. Moving onto Suzy/Punk's textures next.

[fortegigasgospel]

Mega Man World III tile sets. Skipped Shadow due to nothing new, didn't animated Gemini's webs. The plot of III was Wily found an oil mine and was digging it up, so the fluid in Dive's stage represents that.

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Gemini and Snake
Spark
Wily Base (Suzy and Punk)
Dive
Drill
Dust
Skull
Wily Fortress

I'll wait on feedback before moving onto 4, in which all will be complete.

[Magnet Dood]

Those Spark tiles look really sharp.

I'm really liking all of these as MMIII was my favorite out of the GB series (tied with 4). Good work.

[NemZ]

Wily base is a problem for color limits.  I've tackled those flashing lights before and the only solution I could come up with was to make that it's own pallete with each light it's own colored area, thus flashing can happen with color cycling rather than tile replacements and the lights can fade in and out rather than just on/off.  It's the same way the gears in metalman's stage work... both sets of teeth are actually on the tiles at the same time as different color zones, with one set to black on alternating passes.

You can learn a LOT about how they did stuff if you open up an emulator with a PPU viewer option turned on.  Also goes a long way towards explaining why some enemies are always together or why some are always alone.

[fortegigasgospel]

Wily base is a problem for color limits.  I've tackled those flashing lights before and the only solution I could come up with was to make that it's own pallete with each light it's own colored area, thus flashing can happen with color cycling rather than tile replacements and the lights can fade in and out rather than just on/off.  It's the same way the gears in metalman's stage work... both sets of teeth are actually on the tiles at the same time as different color zones, with one set to black on alternating passes.

You can learn a LOT about how they did stuff if you open up an emulator with a PPU viewer option turned on.  Also goes a long way towards explaining why some enemies are always together or why some are always alone.

I've got no emulators on this computer sadly, whats PPU viewer do? Might it help me with the webs?
Also the lights colors were picked as such solely because those were the colors they used in MM10. I think for the sake of easy of use I'm not gonna go making them a completely different layer and leave them as is.

Those Spark tiles look really sharp.

I'm really liking all of these as MMIII was my favorite out of the GB series (tied with 4). Good work.

III was one of my all time favorite classic games, so I've been wanting to see these done for a long time, never thought it would be me doing it though.

[NemZ]

This is what a PPU viewer does:


Basically it lets you see the tile and sprite data as it exists in system memory rather than placed in-game, along with all the current palletes updated in realtime as you play the emulator.  By default everything is shown in pallete1, but it's still fairly easy to figgure out what is what if you pay attention.  For this example pallates 2, 3 and 4 are all on a constant cycle.  2 is currently all grey, but the last two correspond to the flashing arrows on the ends of the conveyors.  3 is for the conveyors themselves, and 4 is for the animated gears and pistons in the background.

On the other side you can see how sprite data is managed, though in this case it seems it's just way too many moles, the press, and those springy bastards.  Interestingly the moles are saved on the same data pack (these sections are loaded in 8px high lines) as the lava drips from wily6, the presses are on the same packet as worm generators, the springers are with the little blocks that make up crashwalls/bubble falling platforms, and if you look right below mega's graphics you can see that bubble, quick and metal all fit into a single packet as well.

weird as this seems, it also reveals that nes graphics are actually made of 8x8 blocks, not 16x16.  However color pallates must be used at 16x16 scale so they tend to reuse the same chunks over and over.  GB games actually use the same arrangement but because there's only 1 pallate they get away with using 8x8 blocks freely, which is why the graphics actually seem more complex in comparison in some places and why there are those thin platforms everywhere.

[fortegigasgospel]

Took me a while but here is some of IV. I accidentally saved over Charge when doing Crystal so I gotta redo it, also gotta add floor tiles, so here is what I have so far. I won't update first post yet.

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Bright
Pharaoh
Ring
Toad
Ballad
Crystal
Napalm
Stone
and Wily

Every stage had something that moved on it, geez. I'll update with Charge and the floor textures when I finish them. Oh and I need the animation and color for Napalm's fire.

[fortegigasgospel]

Finally done

Mega Man World IV tile sets. This one took a while.

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Bright
Pharaoh
Ring
Toad
Ballad
Charge
Crystal
Napalm
Stone
Wily Station IV

I'll wait for some feedback on these and get to the touch ups.

[NemZ]

kinda overkill with the cyan/yellow combos, don't you think?

[fortegigasgospel]

kinda overkill with the cyan/yellow combos, don't you think?

Blame their choices of bosses, every one was done using the colors from the NES stage to allow them to be used along with the original tiles or independently. Ballade and Wily are using the colors from 10.
Also remember, the second set if bosses all take place inside the same facility a Ballade anyway.

[fortegigasgospel]

Updating with some of the Worlds Collide weapons that I have already made ideas for.
Worlds Collide Weapon Ideas

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Chaos Cannon: Fires a slow moving blast that traps the hit target briefly. Stronger then Spark Shock, but it has less ammo and they can't be hurt or attack while stunned.
Psycho Burst: Fires a weak small shot that throws targets in random directions, but unable to send across *block monsters.
Chroma Camo: Utility weapon (like skull, plant, time stopper) which makes the user invisible temporarily. Can still be harmed, can't change weapons until depleted.
Acoustic Blaster: Fires a quick traveling shot that deals mid damage and disrupts vision of target (via leaving notes on there hud)
Piko Hammer: Strong single hit melee attack that stuns target.
Tail Wind: Long ripping attack that when the fire button is pressed again sends the shot upward.
Sharp Knuckle: Mid damage double melee attack that knocks targets away.
Rapid Stinger: Weak quick shot attack with limited range and high ammo. (already made by -{KS1}-)
Fire Tornado: Shoots out a small flame that when hits the floor creates a flaming spiral that travels forward a distance dealing ripping mid damage. The primary shot deals low damage.
Black Wave: Very weak large shot, causes players to be unable to use items or change weapons for a short period.

[Gumballtoid]

Sounds pretty good, but don't neglect Sonic Shot as a potential buster upgrade.

[fortegigasgospel]

Sounds pretty good, but don't neglect Sonic Shot as a potential buster upgrade.

Yea Spin Dash Blaster is listed in my file for being needed.
I'm thinking it roll along the floor to a set distance before returning. So a Boomerang style weapon that rolls on the floor.
But it will be some time before it needs to be made.