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January 08, 2012, 09:07:58 PM
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[Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« on: January 08, 2012, 09:07:58 PM »
Well Star Dood brought it up in my skin topic and I can't say I didn't think about it. So I'll give it a run, sadly I'm not a mapper or scripter but I can give idea's for the weapons and maps.

If you want to take a character the original picture is here -> http://baryltdf.deviantart.com/art/Request-Constellation-Droids-255003384, but be warned they are 2 pixels per square, so cut there size in half and you are good to go.
I've taken the extra step and decreased the size and recolored them myself if you wish to use them.


Here is what we will need.
Skins:
Spoiler for Hiden:
Fan: squidgy617 done
Rush (yes was part of the team): Open
Beat (he was also): Open.
Eddie (again): Open? (May ask permission)
Treble/Gospel (was an opponent): Open? (again may ask)
Aries: Open
Taurus: Open
Gemini: Open
Cancer: Open
Leo: Open
Virgo: ForteGigasGospel  done
Libra: ForteGigasGospel  done
Scorpio: Open
Sagittarius: Open
Capricorn: Open
Aquarius: Open
Pisces: Open
Apollo: squidgy617 (permission has been given allowing anyone else to make this if they wish)
Luna: squidgy617 (same as above)

Maps:
Spoiler for Hiden:
Iron Works (Mongolia)(Aries): Open
Chinese Coast (Taurus): Open
Mine (India)(Gemini): Open
Floating Islands (Indian Ocean)(Cancer): Open
Erupting Volcano (Borneo) (Leo): Open
Sunken Highway (Pacific Ocean) (Virgo): Open
Great Indian (Thar) Desert (Libra): Open
Flying Fortress (Pacific Ocean)(Scorpio): Open
North Africa (Sagittarius): Open
Africa (Capricorn): Open
African Coast (Aquarius): Open
Caspian Sea Coast (Pisces): Open
Wily Fortress (Apollo): Open
Wily Fortress (Luna): Open
Or just make Apollo and Luna a single stage.
Aquarius and Pisces' in game maps are the exact same so a single map could work.

And for the fun part, the weapons, I have not played the game and I assume none of the weapons are all that special but here are some ideas I think could work for them. Just ideas which do not need to be the final results.
Spoiler for Hiden:
Aeries' Heat Wave: A "moving AOE" attack that sends a weak wall of heat forward that goes through enemies.
Taurus' Sandstorm: Creates a sand storm that spirals around you dealing damage (much like Star Crash) and pressing the button again makes it spread out hitting all enemies in a small radius. (Weaker then Star Crash to balance out)
Gemini's Twin Laser: Fires a weak double laser that pierces enemies and pulls them behind it a bit. (Not a lot but enough to push them into a hole if they are too close.)
Cancer's Bubble Beam: Close range rapid fire weapon (very similar to Quick Boomerang but no piercing), shots float at max distance for a brief moment before popping (despawning).
Leo's Whirl Wind: Fires a small slow moving tornado forward that pulls enemies into and with it dealing low damage multiple times. (Basically a weaker Twin laser that pulls better)
Virgo's Maelstrom: Creates a large twister (which a maelstrom is) that sits still and pulls enemies into it (slightly less then a convener belt) and deals rapid damage (close to one shooting if they are stuck in it the whole time), VERY low firing rate.
Libra's U.V. Ray: Fires a fast moving fire beam (hits targets instantly) that does high damage but with the trade off of using a lot of ammo.
Scorpio's Hail Storm: High range (only 1 way), lower damage, multi-hitting Rain Flush.
Sagittarius' Blazing Arrow: High speed piercing electric arrows, low firing rate. (Like Thunder Beam minus the extra shoots)
Capricorn's Flaming Sword: (I don't know how Flame Sword will be for MM8) A forward stab that thrusts you a bit (less then charge kick)
Aquarius' Storm Surge: Runs water down across the ground that deals very low damage but pushes enemies back. (travels like Water Wave)
Pisces' Hyrdo Cannon: Powerful water blast that travels until it hits something (watery Hard Knuckle like).

Some other info.
Chapter Boss: The Wily Machine
Other possible ideas: We may wanna wait for the MM8 expansion to be finished before the final version of this for more textures and weapons (also since some 8 bosses show up in Strategy). A duel against Bass could be available at some point in the chapter.

References:
In game sprites from Strategy: http://themechanicalmaniacs.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=87
Music if possible to down grade: http://themechanicalmaniacs.com/articles/RMSLG.php (Link at the bottom of page)

January 08, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 10:38:32 PM »
Uh... gee. You actually did start one. I didn't expect this.

I'd take a skin, but Llama would yell at me about in a few months.
Good luck, anywho! Maybe I'll help later!

January 08, 2012, 11:17:40 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 11:17:40 PM »
The maps? It will be pretty difficult to start maps without concepts-tileset.

January 08, 2012, 11:52:54 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 11:52:54 PM »
Quote from: "Galaxy"
The maps? It will be pretty difficult to start maps without concepts-tileset.
Think of what we have and the map name. "Africa" would likely be a jungle map.
There are little screen shots of this game, there may be some shots of a few maps in the gallery section of mechanical maniacs.

Ok, yes, some stage pics seem to be in the everything else section http://themechanicalmaniacs.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=100
Spoiler for Hiden:
Thats all there is to work with, it wasn't an 8bit game.

January 09, 2012, 06:07:33 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 06:07:33 PM »
Can you list it by RM stage instead of the name itself? It's confusing.

January 09, 2012, 06:33:24 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 06:33:24 PM »
Quote from: "Galaxy"
Can you list it by RM stage instead of the name itself? It's confusing.
Sorry about that. They are listed in the original post but here they are.
Spoiler for Hiden:

January 10, 2012, 12:29:23 AM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 12:29:23 AM »
Ok, sorry for double post but I noticed there is no Beat skin out (the Kalinka one uses him but thats it), so I'll do Beat personally.

Is Goldgamemaster still around? His Eddie's download is not available.

January 10, 2012, 01:01:28 AM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 01:01:28 AM »
Unless I can't remember quite well, I think Joseph Collins made one.

January 10, 2012, 01:24:12 AM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 01:24:12 AM »
Quote from: "Korby"
Unless I can't remember quite well, I think Joseph Collins made one.
Just checked his skin topic, none there. Though the Kalinka skin has beat with her, but its Gold's and also no longer available.

January 29, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 05:15:24 PM »
Wait, is this dead? If not, YESSSSS.

I would most certainly like to help with this. Those sprites you have in the first post are great.
If you'd like, you can use my Fan skin for this. I may be able to improve it if necessary.

Also, let me dig out my Luna and Apollo sprites...


There's Luna.


Apollo by Drei.

I have a Cancer sprite as well, but its not as good as the one in the first post, so it seems unnecessary.

I can try to make Apollo at some point, but if someone else wants to make him, be my guest.

You have no idea how long I've wanted this to be done. I would've started a project like this myself, but sadly, skinning is my only real skill. Hoping this thing gets somewhere!

January 29, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 05:27:19 PM »
Quote from: "squidgy617"
Wait, is this dead? If not, YESSSSS.

I would most certainly like to help with this. Those sprites you have in the first post are great.
If you'd like, you can use my Fan skin for this. I may be able to improve it if necessary.

Also, let me dig out my Luna and Apollo sprites...


There's Luna.


Apollo by Drei.

I have a Cancer sprite as well, but its not as good as the one in the first post, so it seems unnecessary.

I can try to make Apollo at some point, but if someone else wants to make him, be my guest.

You have no idea how long I've wanted this to be done. I would've started a project like this myself, but sadly, skinning is my only real skill. Hoping this thing gets somewhere!
Very good for them both so far. This project is kinda just in limbo atm. Way I see it it will be much better to do the maps after the MM8 expansion is done. So skins is manly what I'm looking for.

Though as of currently what the two of us have done is the only known progress on anything but given time I'm sure this will be touched upon sooner or later.

January 29, 2012, 05:29:50 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 05:29:50 PM »
Sounds good. If anyone wants to do Luna, be my guest for the rotations and skinning, you may use my sprite. As for Apollo, I'll see if I have time to do him. He shouldn't be too difficult. If anyone wants to do Apollo, feel free to ask. I haven't skinned in a long time and I still have a lot to finish.

January 29, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 06:32:21 PM »
I'd like to see tileset done for this map pack specifically. If there is any tileset I can work it, then I would love to make maps for this expansion.

January 29, 2012, 07:11:22 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 07:11:22 PM »
13/14 maps (Apollo and Luna are color swaps), thats a lot of tiles. With any luck someone will offer to try.

January 29, 2012, 09:37:42 PM
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Re: [Expansion] Rockman Strategy
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 09:37:42 PM »
Shall I add this to my list?  When I finish the DOS games I've got someone on standby who wants something from the zero series, but after that I'm open.  Otherwise I'll just go back to working on things currently in my 'other' list.