Stardust's Workshop

[Legtendga]

All of these things are good things. That's really what I was trying to ask; weather or not she was giving the ok on using the bosses, but I guess it's really irrelevent if I know or not. Personally, I do like both mods, though the changes theat ReBirth has made, I feel, are fantastic. But yeah. Both are good. And I'd gladly help in either beyond a joke boss suggestion.

[Legtendga]

...anyway, why are Remilla an the Unkown Robot Master both Invulnerable whilst using rage? Will/can this change?

[Stardust]

UNRM actually just has a lot of armor (20% of the actual damage), but that also means that unlike Saxton Hale he still takes knockback.
Since he's a moderately slow/mid fast hale, getting close to someone using the rage isn't as easy as it sounds.
Remilia is invinsible due to the bat form, as a tribute to her appearance in EoSD, the episode I based her on.

This asides v2 should come out soon.

[Legtendga]

Wait, is UKRM getting a better rage in V2, or is it unchanged?
Well, it'd likely be much better if she wasn't invl. As we saw with Saxton, more people will stick around to attack if they can do damage to her, thus, the player'll get more kills dispite technically being more vernerable generally.
I am eager to see the new changes and bosses, and can help test if you are in need.

[Stardust]

Both rages will be modified a bit. I took account of the fact Remilia is invulnerable while raging, but if you want my opinion running is a better choice than hurting her even if you could. She's also not the only one who is immunised, Ra Thor becomes too, when using hyper dash.
The large spheres are really dangerous especially at close range where they can even OHKO ; consider that with the fire rate she can fires them.

There's no help needed for the moment really ; we'll do a last testing to make sure everything works correctly and release it within the next days. Since v4's release was delayed by several weeks, we decided to release our SH sooner in order to not wait too much.

[Emmanuelf06]

Your mode is always played, it's really cool =]

Will you add new hales?

Awesome mode, the hales are pretty balanced for a mode who is hard to balance... :]

[TailsMK4]

Star will be adding a few new bosses...I forget the exact count atm. Rather, update v2a will have quite a few surprises in it. I'd go into detail, but there's too much to list, so you'll just have to wait. It should not be too much longer now.

[Legtendga]

Alrighty, glad to hear.

Yes, 3~4 new Hales will be added, PO Roll will be disabled, and current bosses will be tweaked.

(Ninja'd, eh.)

[Stardust]

*puff, puff* rises from the ground *puff, puff*
Well not really ; since I saw Saxton Hale ++ seemed to be a successful mod, I continued the project, as promised. And... oh my, look at the time already, it's been 3 months ? If you ask me it's time to optionally release an update, don't you think? =) Besides, MM8BDM v4 was delayed, so we decided to throw this game to you now.

But before that, an information you should know -even though it was already said-, Rebirth and Plus Plus are merging or rather merged, silly me.
My personnal main reason for this choice, was to reduce the amount of SH mods because I noticed that creating tones and tones of different versions was just silly,
and profesionally-wise, it would just scatter the work whereas we could work on a single mod to maximise the potential. It's something I always wanted to :
recruits other SH modders to fuse, that's too bad that Otaku now moved on and dropped the continuation of Hyper :
Thus... the mod is controlled by both me and Tails' manly hands, and is renamed to Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ (R++ sounded pretty nice to write). We took ++'s basis
because 8000 codes of ACS was scary to transcribe, and many MANY features from Rebirth were invited to the mod, you'll see in the changelog.
EENEEWAY

My raw changelog has over 200+ lines, I shortened that by only keeping the more important modifications -,-
The bold modifications are really, really really really really important :I

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Global modifications :
* Tomahawk Talbain is an available hale.
* Super Macho Man is an available hale.
* Guts Man G is an available hale.
* Ra Thor brothers is an available hale.
* 5 new classes, the "Silversin Redesigned Classes", inspired from Hyper and Silversin's versions, are added. Check out more about them in the first post =)
* Star Crash is a ragefeeding weapon. It completly hitstun, but its damage are reduced, akin to Flash Bomb.
* All the hales with a 1HKO melee and ONLY them will receive the following melee revamp :
The melees can't OHKO anymore, a perfect melee strike can cause 90 damage at the most. However, the melee hales have faster fire rates, and the melee's hitbox is approximately doubled. This isn't a nerf but a gameplay revamp. Inspired by Rebirth's feature, this allows the Healer class to heal wounded allies even against melee hales ; and the Sweeper class's health to not be an advantage for him.
The ONLY hales not affected by this change are Slender Man (who still OHKO and keep the same fire rate/range), Ra Thor Rebirth's minions, and Dio Flash's melee punch.
* You can read the hale's manual by pressing altfire at the beginning of the round. It tells you what the hale can do.
* Every survivor gets different weapons, like in Rebirth
* 3 new runes are implanted (defensive runes) : Drain, Resistance and Regeneration
* Wire Adaptor can be obtained at the beginning of the round, too
* A combo system was implanted, only visible by the hale. Killing several opponents in a row increase the combo counter. They have no purpose but to tell you how awesome you are :v
* New Megaman-related musics from Rebirth are used for the intermission screens and for YOULOST/YOUWON
* The recoil method when the hale is hit was replaced with slight speed reduction
* Pharaoh Shot HOLDING is a ragefeeding weapon (it hitstuns)
* The initial health of the hale is displayed near the the current health (feature from Hyper Saxton)
* Junk Shield and Super Adaptor are banned from the whole game
* Spark Shock slightly stuns instead of doing more recoil
* Flash Bomb hitstuns, but its damage are reduced : it's a ragefeeding-type weapon
* Lots of secrets!

Now for each hale individually :
Ghost of Starman : * Both speed and health reduction. His mainfire was modified à la Rebirth. It's a pinpoint falling meteor attack. Aim to the ground and a meteor will fall! It has limited range

Christian Brutal Sniper : * The rage autoactivates and gives him some arrows he can stack. Using altfire swap of weapons between the blade and the bow.
* You can fire the arrows at anytime now.

Cave Johnson : * He can light up oil pits. Lemons' power was nerfed (100 ==> 75) and don't slow down anymore, but he has more health to compensate.

Ninja Spy : * He got the blinding flash back, I dunno why this was removed

Dio Flash : * Za Warudo has a longer delay before freezing the stage with the rage
* He trades some health for more speed
* Main fire rate buff
* The stand's combo (using fire when the stand is being sent) will force the stand to stay perpendicular to the floor when punching

Morshu : this guy's gameplay was HEAVILY reworked :)
* Morshu's inventory is displayed on the side of the screen. It displays your OIL, LAMP, BOMBS, ROPE amounts and rage charge in percentage
* Morshu has way more health, but is also way slower. You wouldn't expect him to be so healthy eh
* His rage does 650 damage instead of 1000
* The mainfire is used for oil. Tap it to sent oil blobs. They turn into puddles when they touch the floor.
* You can then use fire to light it up! Hold the mainfire button to do so. Using the oil or fire separately is pretty weak, the burning oil is more effective.
* Morshu's bombs are still available as altfire, but they are weaker (they can't OHKO anymore). However they have a faster fire rate.
* To use his rage, hold the altfire button when it's ready.
* Morshu's Super Jump was replaced by ropes. He can stack 3 ropes. They work like Wire Adaptor.

The Unknown Robot Master : * Junk drain when killing reduced
* Summoning is Item1, Super Jump is Item2
* His rage's duration is halved. The attraction and damage are way stronger.
* His summons can't drop health capsules anymore
* All the summons' health was reduced
* Fire Tackles can burn oil pits :troll:

Ra Thor Reborn : * he's removed and was replaced by our Ra Thor duo :
Ra Thor Rebirth : * The hypnos have more range and bigger hitbox unlike Reborn's
* The minions don't die anymore when the hypnotizer Ra Thor dies. This means that a minion can win the game for his master, even if this last one is dead. =)

Slender Man : * Gameplay revamp, Slender Man can only be killed by lowering is health down to 0. The countdown and health both were reduced a bit.
* When the countdown reaches 0, Slender's health starts draining quickly instead of instant dying.
* Ligher darkness

Falcon : * Falcon punch's damage was buffed from 100 to 135

Gilgamesh : * Slight health nerf
* His super jump item turned into the "Jump" ability from FF. It charges faster, and jumps lower. If you land on someone's head, Gilgamesh will bounce and damage the victim. He's invulnerable while jumping. You can force the falling after jumping earlier by pressing the item again.

Seemen : * Fire Cicle damage nerf : 1000 to 125

Pissed off Roll : * Her melee is now the same as Saxton Hale's
* Her rage lasts a bit shorter
* She is removed from the hale selection rotation

Cave Story :
Quote: * Health trading for speed
* LV1 spur is weaker, smaller, and has a range limit, but it is faster
* The charging Spur was reworked. It is lower-damaging, but charges faster. Charging increase the length, power and size of the Spur.
* His "super jump" was dumped for his actual Booster v2.0. It charges quickly, and propulses Quote in the direction you're pressing. If you stand still, he'll raise upward.
* His super missiles are less accurate, but have a faster fire rate. The rage's duration is halved.

Curly : * Speed trading for health
* Her Machine Gun has limited range, and she's only thrusted upward if she's aiming down.
* The clones were removed for the Nemesis. The Nemesis works pretty much like faster, stronger, bigger projectiles, but they have limited ammo.

Dawn of Moodkipz : He's removed
* He was renamed to Mudkip
* Intro removed
* He can't doublejump anymore
* His health was buffed a bit
* Synthesis slightly nerfed
* Treecko and Torchic have less health
* Leafblade is weaker, Treecko a tiny faster when running aroun'

Remilia : * Health nerf.
* Her rage has a longer delay before she's above to move. The overwhelming fire rate was heavily reduced, but way more bullets are created, and they bounce off walls.

More polyvalence for the Wily Tower RM :
Genesis Unit hale has a new theme. The theme also doesn't change anymore after a rage if the last survivor theme is playing
Buster Rod G : * Teamkilling bug fixed
* Jump height decreased a bit
* Health increased, Wild Friction slower charge
* Scoria (the fire attack)'s damage were reduced and can light up oil pits

Mega Water S : * He starts with harpoons at the beginning (tap normalfire to shoot them)
* Shield's range slightly increased, power slightly decreased
* Health nerf

Hyper Storm H : * Piggy can now go wherever he wants, his hitbox doesn't prevent him from being blocked anymore
* Noticeable health nerf. He is a bit faster, the breathing main can be used for longer, and he has a tiny higher jump.
* Meteor Jump only damages if Hyper is using it by falling, not on the raising state
* The giant boulder of his rage falls faster

Main game download (v2a) : http://static.best-ever.org/wads/saxton ... h++v2a.pk3
Music download (v2a) : http://static.best-ever.org/wads/saxton ... sicv2a.pk3

Peace.

[Hallan Parva]

... Wow.

And here I was, fearing the absolute worst from the merge. From the changelog alone most of these boss revamps seem to make the Hales cleaner in general while also toning down their overall levels of "unblockable bullshit potential", especially the changes to Quote/Curly and Remilia Scarlet. I like the mechanic of Morshu's "tap attack / hold attack" for the main (oil and fire) and alt (normal bomb and rage bomb), and aside from Gilgamesh's multiple sword mechanic it seems you were able to keep some of the best changes from Rebirth.

I'm not jumping the gun too much though, will post later when I get around to actually playing this online.

[Dr. Crasger]

Well, that's a lot of work.
A LOT of work.

Welp, back to work!

[Hallan Parva]

I apologize for the sudden second post but

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this looks really damn good and it quickly and accurately describes each class in small detail
none of the classes are super-different either like Jax / Justified or the Unholy team's classes
and even with the (relatively) small number of classes they all fill distinct roles


I am honestly really impressed
still want Zantetsuken tho

[Rozark]

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Feels fitting.

And so ends the tale of "50 shades of Saxton Hale" as the dominant, and well deserved, final copy is bought in groves from store shelves all around Cutstuff.

9.5/10 put in Shrek.

[Dr. Crasger]

I apologize for the sudden second post but

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this looks really damn good and it quickly and accurately describes each class in small detail
none of the classes are super-different either like Jax / Justified or the Unholy team's classes
and even with the (relatively) small number of classes they all fill distinct roles


I am honestly really impressed :ugeek:
still want Zantetsuken tho

Impressive image there.

Who made it?

[Stardust]

The Ra Thor duo crashed, ehhh, it makes me so sad
so I did a hotfix hope u liek it
I'm not sure if this will work
Really I have no idea
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/saxton ... ++v2ah.pk3