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WHOHOHOHOHOHOHOA!
I hate to be that guy, but what, exactly, are you planning on doing with this?
And why have I not bee informed?
Remember when I asked if I could edit it and you said that I could?
All I actually did was change the order of the weapons.
Quote from: "Duora Super Gyro"Remember when I asked if I could edit it and you said that I could?
All I actually did was change the order of the weapons.
...Yeah, I'm going to have to ask you to not release that. Sorry, but I don't think just switching the weapon order around counts as an entirely new mod.
I say keep, although if no, here's an idea:It would be somewhat the same as with IX-Pack and IX-Legacy. One will be played so much more than the other. I believe that's the reason the poll was made: to not make two versions.
Make 2 versions. The normal version, and a compatibility version that doesn't contain any custom weapons, meaning it can be used for things such as classes and stuff.
It would be somewhat the same as with IX-Pack and IX-Legacy. One will be played so much more than the other.
The mirror placements in Electric Sands make me want to punch kittens....Thanks for the info... I guess...
That is all.
They are good, I like that you added Domination. Just maybe needs more then 3 points if possible?Quote from: "xColdxFusionx"The mirror placements in Electric Sands make me want to punch kittens....Thanks for the info... I guess...
That is all.
Ok. Could someone please give me some feedback on the Domination Stages.
A MUST DOWNLOAD map pack
Bug: clockwork factory has a rare screenshot...
Some maps can,t be opened for some reason.
anyway, one of the best map packs in the comunity.
(I love that Crash Bandicoot theme)
DCTFMS03-speedy house: could not find map DCTFMS03
COMP01-Guts Man (target blaster): could not find map COMP01
Thats all
Btw Duora
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This is a texture error isn't it? I found it in REDRSG06 (I think) - Termination and it was right over in this area
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Was this error intended? I shouldn't think that. Try fixing it :]
I...kinda like some of the newer maps, but there are quirks I kinda need to point out...
I like a lot of the music, but that is the reason for the gigantic file size, I suggest you compress the music or have some else compress it for you
(I compressed the music in beta 1 so that it would not cause a memory problem when hosting...because that can happen...)
I'm gonna handle the music myself, When I made the map pack, I was gonna have alot more older maps, and others, but I wasnt able to include all the maps I wanted.
The CTF maps Have incorrect music listing in the bottom left
CTF 1 Should say "Interdimensional Voyage of the Ghostly Passenger Ship - Hertzdevil"
And CTF 2 should say "Nostalgic Blood of the East ~ Old World - Hertzdevil"
I don't know what the other 2 are because I cannot access CTF3 and CTF4 has music I don't recognize.
The problem with this is I had computor problems. I had all the music, the names, the creators, everything. But it all got erased, I was only able to keep the pack.
Another thing I found was you seem to have a problem with texture sizes...you are using 16x16 textures in the wrong size (they are half size)
This appears to be a semi-common problem...the textures need to be double normal size in order to work, but you can do that in code
What I mean is, 16x16 textures need to be 32x32 map units in size, as they will look out of place when comparing them to the 8BDM textures
Some textures don't have this issue, but others do seem to fuss up with this setup
...I kindof got lazy with the textures. I plan on fixing alot of it.
another issue Is the incredible number of DoomEd number errors
To fix this, I recommend having a composite DECORATE file in the root folder of your pk3 that contains the target code and maybe the "things" from other maps that are map specific, such as the props in Toy Town.
Im new to coding and could use some help with that.
My only other issue is the missing maps, the missing maps being CTF03 and COMP01
I kind of want to make some modifications to this pack. Things like music compression, script errors and visual effects (like aforementioned texture sizes)
Feel free to make any modifications you want as long as it isnt any major map layout edits. I could use alot of help with this. :)
But I kind of like some of the layouts, they look like they could work well for a lot of things.
Okay, blunt stuff ahead. I might sound like an asshole, but PLEASE bear with me.
Duora, your maps have pretty awesome themes. They look pretty, and seem creative. However, with this update, they don't play better. In fact, they're worse now. You have these maps with mazes, huge distances to cover and hundreds of 3d floors that create lag, dining tables, tall ass stairs to scale, and OIL SLIDER. I'll divide this into parts for ease of reading:
When making CTF maps, you have to take into account players as obstacles. You don't need to kill yourself over detailing things like the chairs in Silent Library (3d floor lag). I'll admit they look pretty damn awesome, but instead of focusing on detail first, LOOK AT THE LAYOUTS!
The bridge map reminded me of Shrine to Saku without the obstacles. You have this football stadium of a bridge to cover, with towersof babelthat lead to... Thunder Bolt?
hmm...thunder bolt...that needs to be changed. As for the distance, guess i could shorten that some more.
On the water map, you have a full scale armory in each base (which, by the way, are too plain), with a bunch of jump stairs to the flag, and the rest of the map is scarce on stuff. Uh oh.
I could probably make ramps to the flag and move some of the weapons outside.
The sewer map felt like a maze, and you have swimming (!) water on it. The main problem though, is how easy you have buster upgrades and other hard hitting weapons like Napalm Bomb easy to get.
Yeah, i dont know how to do megaman styled water, iv tried alot but it just never seems to work. I could probably just make it a floor or somthing.
Sky fortress map. "It looks so great." Then I realized I was falling into a pit I couldn't see on time because the 3d floor I was walking on covered it.
...you mean the big square pit in the inside part of the bases? if so, i might be able to change it and add a fence or somthing.
Race map. Oil Slider. Dining tables. How about no?
dining tables?...?
See, if someone gets Oil Slider (read: VERY likely), they pretty much win the game. All they need to do is get the flag, sip dining tables, and return to base. There's a reason one does not place taboo weapons (see the CTF Compo topic's first post) in CTF, or mass amounts of health/ammo together in ANY mode. One player goes by and gets everything.
sip dining tables? what? anyway, less health and ammo and remove all oil slider, okay.
I know I forgot one map, but listen. CTF maps like to be a LOT smaller than this. Players getting in the way already makes for obstacles. You can imagine how frustrating it would be to die right after crossing all of the bridge and getting the enemy flag.
I might have to delete that map...
I suggest you go see other packs, compare, and try again. Don't fear deleting maps entirely, either. I've had to do that a couple of times before I started to get the gist of what's a good size for a CTF map. I say you have some real potential. You just need to tone down the size of everything and distribute things nicely and in a balanced manner.
im good at designing maps but when it comes to balance, thats where i need more practice at... but, il see what i can do. but it would be later in time because of other stuff.
Good luck, pal. CTF can always have more love.
brutally honest
Some complaints:The boss music scripts are extremely primitive. I suggest looking at the ones in CSCM, which allows the boss music to play in duel, and victory themes.
Okay, thanks
Some graphics and sprites are not 8-bit.
yeah.....might have gotten a bit too creative...
Included is a skin of an apple with arms and legs and a pair of eyes. No, I am not making this up (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer). What the hell is that got to do with this map pack? Apple is a skin I made a couple years, I made it because I used to play the game named Ninja Apple...I for some reason never deleted it and forgot it was a thing... and even worse, the arms and legs were ripped from megaman and placed on a recolored apple from kirby.
It's probably some inside joke we're not getting.No...just somthing i completely forgot about...
*Note* If I missed someone, please let me knowTested your CTF maps and gave feedback. :I
Rozark, I think Star Hill may be a reference to that of Paper Mario (considering all the Nintendo music, I wouldn't be surprised). It reminds me a lot like that, and that had a lot of open space. If he isn't trying to replicate that, then it needs less open space.
Quote from: "MagnetMan497"Rozark, I think Star Hill may be a reference to that of Paper Mario (considering all the Nintendo music, I wouldn't be surprised). It reminds me a lot like that, and that had a lot of open space. If he isn't trying to replicate that, then it needs less open space.
I know what Star Hill is, and the map can be replicated without as much space.
(considering all the Nintendo music, I wouldn't be surprised)
Would there be suggestions for this map pack (or ideas)?
Even if you dont accept sugestions...
You know what a "rats" map is??
Think of it like a challenge for you (can you imagine all the robot masters and etc runing around in that map?)...
Quote from: "TheunlosingQuint"Even if you dont accept sugestions...
You know what a "rats" map is??
Think of it like a challenge for you (can you imagine all the robot masters and etc runing around in that map?)...
Hmm... I might try somthing like that..
Doom water automatically drowns you?
...Really? This is the first I've ever seen or heard of it. And I've encountered it numerous times.
Oh hey, it seems that the other half of the pack was requested. Before I begin though, I want to ask you a question. I'm not sure if you handmade or ripped any of these textures (Besides WWGUTS), but is it alright if I use some of them for a certain map project that I've been working on? Anywho, on to the review. Do note that I'm not doing weapon layouts simply because I'm not good at them myself and that this is my opinion. It's ultimately your choice to decide what to do with the maps.
You can use whatever textures you want as long as you give credit(click to show/hide)
Hi...
You map is good for health... yes.
i came to put another easter egg music for your good goodies
I like that song, il see if i can fit it in...but I know Iv heard that theme from somthing, just dont know what...
I said something like Stonefunk before, this is incredible, Duora should work on the next official expansion MM9. I know, i,m exagerating a bit but think about it. Also, Knux, I know you are one of the most veterans in "cartography", and the point is, you are right, a lot of maps are tooo big, but something that makes these maps diferent is the "hand" of the mapper, In my opinion, even if the map breaks the gameplay, I can't imagine Star Hill smaller than now, is like if I change the "Mona Lisa" because something is mising.
Anyway is my opinion. (I,m not a mapper so...)
Yeah, that sand temple place was pretty lame wasnt it... well, ima still try to use the textures, probably edit them and make more to go with it so it looks better... I was more focused on the gimmick then the look. and the gimmick wasn't executed too well...Quote from: "TheunlosingQuint"I said something like Stonefunk before, this is incredible, Duora should work on the next official expansion MM9. I know, i,m exagerating a bit but think about it. Also, Knux, I know you are one of the most veterans in "cartography", and the point is, you are right, a lot of maps are tooo big, but something that makes these maps diferent is the "hand" of the mapper, In my opinion, even if the map breaks the gameplay, I can't imagine Star Hill smaller than now, is like if I change the "Mona Lisa" because something is mising.
Anyway is my opinion. (I,m not a mapper so...)
Except the truth of the matter is and summary:
These maps ARE beautiful, just some of the layouts don't seem to work because they're too huge or just bad -coughwhateverthatsandtempleofdoommapwascough-
If by hand you mean style, then yes I would agree. Everyone has their own style of mapping and Duora certainly knows how to make things pretty. But again, pretty maps don't do anything if the map doesn't play well AKA too big.
oh so dats where these came from. good job!Thanks, but im not continuing this, Im doing a new map pack, most of the maps probably wont be coming back in the remake, but some of them, Im going to do my best to keep like Nature's Best, and Cliff Side. I also plan to keep some of the textures from them and this time, Im gonna avoid so many pointless easter eggs. A lot of things wont be coming back like Duora dolls and a lot of the other props I made. Im trying to make it cleaner, and better this time, so less maps, but better quality ones is what im aiming for here. The textures are going to be custom made and actually 8-bit this time or ripped from games. And im also gonna be making these maps with mods in mind so things like Ghouls vs Humans 8-bit will be more fun here. Right now im only planning about 10 maps though it may be more depending on what ideas I get. on the other hand. Its gonna be some time though, I plan to be using custom sound effects, Im going to try to make my own music for some of the maps though its hard to say if all of it will be custom made.
I also plan to make maps based on games like Minecraft, Cave Story, Call of Duty, Mario Bros,
And im also gonna be making these maps with mods in mind
Quote from: "Duora Super Gyro"And im also gonna be making these maps with mods in mind
Take my word when I say DON'T DO THIS.
That is, unless these aren't just traditional death match maps.
I have been meaning to ask this for a while and I'm pretty sure I'm right, but......what?
Did you get those muscular statue guys from Pokemon TCG 2?
Those new maps look nice and all, but I would like to know if you're fixing some of the issues I consistently see in your pack...
For a second, I thought you were going to ask about oversized maps that could be split into 2-3 smaller maps. Which I actually did for a couple...
specifically you should seriously consider fixing all your textures by defining them like you would in core. This should fix all the issues you have with textures and mixing bittages. I have defined all the textures in the pack, with the textures being in the map wads like in the core.
Also make sure no errors show up in the console with just the pack loaded to make sure all the custom actors and textures all show up as intended. This will make your map pack appear more polished and cleaner when it is finally released.
I'll try, never been too good with coding, but I only have like 4 or 5 actors this time around, so it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.
Also you should seriously change all the music to be handled through mapinfo instead of straight scripts...typing "changemus *" in the console should change the song to the default song of the map, not nothing.
I plan to do this and already have for some of the maps.
What really gets me on this particular comment is how inconsistent you had it in your pack...some maps had default music others didn't and this was completely random...you don't need to have your boss music script force the stage music back upon map start...it also increases map loading time a little bit and could potentially cause memory crashes. [Running scripts with immediate effects can do this, especially when bots are involved...but that isn't as important.]Wasn't aware of the possible crashes, or the extended loading time. I am aware that some maps have default music and some don't though. I probably grabbed some coding from the core maps, while using some I attempted to write myself or something. But I'll try to make sure I'm more consistent this time around.
Hi Duora could you --if you didn't do it already-- change the water system like in DRSGDM07 (the Beach/Mountain map I think) so they use the standard water (low gravity) instead of the Doom Water (slowing down)??
This would make crossing the water portions smoother ; and as a matter of fact your maps wouldn't have the Hotel pool issue T_T if you didn't know about this one, the HOTEL map was banned from B.E because you could shoot certain things (Dr Wily's "forgive me" corpse, his lightning balls as well, Woody's leaves, Plantman's seeds, Heatman's fire blasts or Oil Man's oïl blobs, etc.) in the water and they wouldn't disappear until the pool would refill, causing stocking and as such, some lags.
DRSGDM07 has been removed. The map just wasn't that good, I might use some stuff from it at a later date though. As for the water, The only map to feature swim-able water now is Chill Hill, and the water there is fixed with the low gravity It was a pain getting that to work, but I did it.