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Cutstuff => Events => Topic started by: Ivory on March 14, 2014, 04:21:22 AM

Title: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: Ivory on March 14, 2014, 04:21:22 AM

Hey there all you Mega Man fans! You ready for another shot at the mapping medal (and the new runner ups)?

Download Link: Finish that Map! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33338072/FTMCompo.pk3)
Or just download it via wadseeker.

Results: http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6440&p=282338#p282338

This competitions theme is...

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(http://puu.sh/7uCiQ.png)

Finish that map! What does this mean? For this mapping competition I provide everyone a wad (in both hexen and udmf formats, your choice) containing the above layout pieces. Your goal is to finish the map while making use of the provided sections. Of course, the sections have to be on the map or your entry is null. It will be interesting to see different takes on the same pieces of level. This level has no default music, no textures whatsoever or anything other than the layout itself. I didn't wish to influence any aesthetics. It does have a simple piece of mapinfo though!

Maps are due April 8th


Enough talk, have rules!

Game mode is: Deathmatch
Custom music is allowed, but will not be judged
Custom textures can be used, but again, it will not be judged
Custom props can be used, but yeah, you get it by now... don't you?
No custom weapons or items, vanilla only
You can use any gimmicks (or none at all) you wish
Help is allowed, but do try to build the layout on your own

What can I do with the layout?

You can build onto the layout however you wish
You can position the three provided sections however you wish
You can alter the dimensions of the provided elements
You can detail it however you want
You can add 3D Floor lower areas, so long as the part above remains the same.

What can I not do with the layout?

You can't delete the elements of the provided layout
You can't change the elevations of the provided layout pieces
You can't exclude them from playable area
You can't remove those stair barriers

These rules are subject to change.


Cool, so how is this being judged? Simple! We're going to be playing deathmatch on these maps, and the community will spam my inbox with PMs containing their votes afterwards. Voting will be done based on the community opinion and my (and any other judge) votes. There will be three places, one medal winner and two runner ups. I will be deciding on my two additional judges at a later date.

(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17.gif)First place is determined by top winner of the judge and community votes
(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17-RU.png)One runner up decided purely by the judge votes
(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17-RU.png)One runner up decided purely by the community votes

Cool? Sign up in this thread! (Green means entry accepted)

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Rozark Kyouko
Gospel
SmashBroPlusB
Shade Guy
!o! woohoo
Jc
Magnet Dood
Knux
Mystery Contestant!

Download the files below
Finish that Map! Hexen Format (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33338072/FTM_Template%28Hexen%29.wad)
Finish that Map! UDMF (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33338072/FTM_Template%28UDMF%29.wad)

Best of luck, it will be interesting to see all the different takes on this tiny chunk of layout.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Rozark on March 14, 2014, 04:35:22 AM

I VOLUNTEER TO FINISH YOUR MAP IVORY

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: fortegigasgospel on March 14, 2014, 04:42:16 AM

I will be joining in this competition, mapping is probably the only thing around here I am usually able to finish, with varied results.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Hallan Parva on March 14, 2014, 04:50:38 AM

I want to make a top-tier judging audiocast :ugeek:


sign me up whatever I'm not going to finish in time anyway

Title: cough. cough. Mendez. cough. cough.
Post by: Shade Guy on March 14, 2014, 05:37:14 AM

Good concept. I'm experienced in finishing other people's maps for them, so I'll sign up.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: LlamaHombre on March 14, 2014, 10:16:45 AM

Shade wins

Signing up anyway

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Beed28 on March 14, 2014, 11:41:05 AM

Signing up.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: !o! woohoo on March 14, 2014, 05:17:57 PM

I'm not the best person texture wise but I'm pretty confident in creating layouts.

I'll sign up!

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Jc494 on March 14, 2014, 08:00:20 PM

Signing up to take last place (again).

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Magnet Dood on March 14, 2014, 10:27:32 PM

Aw what the hell I'll try it out

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Knux on March 15, 2014, 12:52:46 AM

Sign me up, tee-hee-har.  :cool:

Title: >That feel when I have a qt pi mapping partner
Post by: Mendez on March 15, 2014, 08:27:39 PM

Sign me up for the compo, por favor

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Beed28 on March 23, 2014, 01:27:31 AM

Going to be dropping out, I just can't find my motivation to map as for now. :(

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: LlamaHombre on March 28, 2014, 09:52:25 PM

I unfortunately won't be able to make time in my schedule to finish this with the ambition I wanted to put into this. This week and the next are overwhelmingly tight for me and I'll have almost no time to work on my map as a result.

Sorry, but I have to drop out.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Ivory on March 29, 2014, 06:12:47 AM

Just a reminder that entries are due in a week.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition.
Post by: Ivory on April 02, 2014, 04:46:46 PM

Due to complications in my schedule, I'm going to be changing the due date to end of Tuesday. April 8th.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -Extension-
Post by: Ivory on April 07, 2014, 03:42:21 PM

Entries are due tomorrow. Smashbro, Mendez, Dood and !o! woohoo are still missing maps. I heard that Mendez and Smashbro are dropping out? Maybe? I dunno. If you are dropping off, either tell me directly via skype or post here.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -Extension-
Post by: Hallan Parva on April 07, 2014, 05:10:07 PM

Quote from: "Ivory"

Smashbro dropping out? Maybe?

nah man screw that noise :ugeek:


all shall bow down to Specter's might

Title: I blame Shade Guy entirely. No reason, I just do.
Post by: Mendez on April 08, 2014, 02:21:43 AM

Gonna have to drop out of this compo, but good luck to the rest of the competitors! I'm sure you guys are gonna make maps I'll (mostly) want to play on!

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -Extension-
Post by: Knux on April 08, 2014, 02:23:05 AM

Aw hell... I was looking forward to your map. Oh well...

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -Extension-
Post by: Ivory on April 09, 2014, 03:14:07 AM

Well, seeing as no one else turned in a late entry, this competition is closed. Stay tuned for details about the compiled pk3 and testing in the coming day.


... Smash, you have disappointed me. :ugeek:

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -closed-
Post by: Korby on April 09, 2014, 01:09:38 PM

I'm still betting on him having a surprise emergency yesterday, which is why he didn't finish.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -closed-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 09, 2014, 04:52:18 PM

No body saw him all day, so something totally came up.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Mapping Competition. -closed-
Post by: Ivory on April 11, 2014, 03:57:53 PM

Hey all you Mega Man fans. Time to go play some new maps! The FTM play sessions are now open!

Download Link: Finish that Map! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33338072/FTMCompo.pk3)
Or just download it via wadseeker.


RIP Smash

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Time to play some maps!-
Post by: Ivory on April 11, 2014, 04:40:11 PM

So about voting. Just go send me a PM. You can vote for two maps. One best map, one runner up pick. Pretty simple??? Best map is worth 2 points, runner up is worth 1 point. Judges (myself, Mess and Celebi) are worth 3 points. So have a blast. I cleaned my inbox just for the occasion. :ugeek:

Oh, and just a reminder. When casting your vote, you are just looking for the best map in general, but also keep in note the point of this competition. What map had the best use of the provided pieces.

Voting ends by Monday at the latest. Could be earlier if I stopped getting votes.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! Map ratings go.
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 11, 2014, 06:04:33 PM

I'ma just rate the maps real quick.

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Boost Man - Knux
Very solid map. I enjoy it a lot. The lay out is good and you can see around well. I personally liked the gimmick used, certainly makes it stand out from Dynamo's and Time's. One gripe, the Concrete platforms moving up and them staying in the air forever if the person stays on them.

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'How' - JC
Grats, you did it, though even with the decent layout it suffered from being a bit too big due to it.

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Primeval Ruins - Rozark
Solid layout, easy to fight on. Love the use of the vines, though I stumbled upon them by mistake, look forward to more uses like this in the future.

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FTM04 - Shade Guy
Another good map, though a bit rougher on space imo. The 3D floor use was beautiful. You mentioned you rushed and lost some quality, and I can agree on that.

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Dynaman v2 - FGG (my map)
Looking at it now, Slash Claw was a poor choice for a close range weapon due to just how small the map is causing it to be a bit more powerful then I thought, though place holding for Force Field.  Hyper Bomb place holding for Dyna's weapon might be moved depending on how the weapon turns out. Shadow Blade and Gemini Laser were also place holding for Shark Boomerang and Sonic Wave respectivly. Going for the minimalist route I feel I used the supplied parts rather well, though everything added to them was hallways anyway.
Edit: Thank you Ivory for reminding me about Screw Crusher being op as well.

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FTM06 - Mystery Conestent
I have no words, I'm sorry.

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FTM07 - Woohoo
Well. It wasn't too bad, you are still a newer mapper if I recall correct, so you still have room to improve, I look forward to seeing you do so.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: !o! woohoo on April 11, 2014, 06:25:15 PM

Thanks for the feedback, but you didn't actually point out any problems with my map in your critique. I would really appreciate it if you could name the issues so I can improve upon it next time I make a map.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: LlamaHombre on April 11, 2014, 07:55:46 PM

I absolutely love the flow and love put into Knux's map. It's a blast to play on, and it embodies what it was meant to represent perfectly. Out of all seven, this one had the most charm to me and as such I voted for it.

JC's map was pretty good, it just didn't really stand out as much as the other ones.

Rozark's map was also pretty good and looked really nice. I just felt some of the other entries flowed more nicely.

Shade's map is a lot of fun to play on and displayed a very innovative way of looking at the central room piece.

FGG, this is honestly a really good map. It flows nicely, and the conveyor room is pretty fun. I can't help but feel like it's missing a piece of the puzzle, though.

While Sword Man and Freeze Man textures have both been done to death, I really liked Mystery Contestant's usage of the two together and found the frozen lava room outright stunning when I first walked into it.

Woohoo's map flows fine, it just feels a little bit...plain? It doesn't really offer much that wowed me, and instead felt a little more like the three pieces with a slight amount of meat filled into them. Under any other circumstance that's not a bad thing, but I felt a little put off by it here.

Smash's map is beautiful and it needs to win 20 oscars right this instant  :cry:

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 11, 2014, 09:07:58 PM

Quote from: "LlamaHombre"

FGG, this is honestly a really good map. It flows nicely, and the conveyor room is pretty fun. I can't help but feel like it's missing a piece of the puzzle, though.

If you mean the "corner room"/left room it is there, all three pieces are actually still in the same order from each other.
But, cause I like doing stuff like this, and to remove any doubt, I took a screenshot of the auto-map and colored it in to represent the sections.

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(http://i.imgur.com/rAF4Ro5.png)

Red is provided areas playable. Purple is added playable areas. Yellow is added non-accessible areas. Grey is pillars.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: LlamaHombre on April 11, 2014, 09:08:42 PM

Ah, I was looking for the one on the right. No wonder, as you did something completely different with it.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 11, 2014, 09:17:52 PM

Llama, I wouldn't have accepted the map in the first place if it was missing a piece. That would of made it illegal. Although I will say, Rozark and Shade had the left most piece blend in the most. Both those maps had a lot of me running around going "Where is it?"

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: LlamaHombre on April 11, 2014, 09:52:43 PM

I figured as much, I was moreso asking for my own clarification.

Still, great maps overall.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 12, 2014, 07:47:35 PM

Well then uh, remember you can vote until monday...

Man, has this vote count been rather minimal so far.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Knux on April 13, 2014, 06:16:10 AM

Yeah, I was thinking from the start that this competition wasn't advertised hard enough. I wish I had suggested using the global announcement for it early on as I was planning... :/

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 13, 2014, 02:17:04 PM

Reminder: Voting ends tomorrow. Roughly 8:15-30 am PST

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 14, 2014, 03:08:55 PM

Voting deadline extended until this afternoon since someone needs to get back to me and do the voting properly. :ugeek:

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 14, 2014, 05:16:02 PM

Come on guys, gals, whatever pronoun you prefer, get those votes in, we put a lot of work into these maps and it is rather sad to hear how many votes he has atm. It is reasons like this that it is hard to finish map packs and expansions, because no one seemingly cares enough about people's maps to give feedback, or even vote in a compo, which dis-ways some of our mappers.
Having our mappers feel good about making maps by showing a little effort to care enough to encourage them to make more maps means more maps for other game modes, like Saxton Hale *cough*, Roboenza, the forgotten Bot Apoc, Chaos Gen, and hell even Screw Scramble. Note how CSCMs took forever to update for V3?

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ceridran on April 14, 2014, 05:25:46 PM

Quote from: "fortegigasgospel"

Come on guys, gals, whatever pronoun you prefer, get those votes in, we put a lot of work into these maps and it is rather sad to hear how many votes he has atm. It is reasons like this that it is hard to finish map packs and expansions, because no one seemingly cares enough about people's maps to give feedback, or even vote in a compo, which dis-ways some of our mappers.
Having our mappers feel good about making maps by showing a little effort to care enough to encourage them to make more maps means more maps for other game modes, like Saxton Hale *cough*, Roboenza, the forgotten Bot Apoc, Chaos Gen, and hell even Screw Scramble. Note how CSCMs took forever to update for V3?

Have we even gotten a server for this yet? I haven't seen any, and it would definitely be easier to vote if we can naturally experience the maps with a bunch of people, instead of skimming over it in solo.

Get a server today, get everyone together, have some genuine feedback.  :|

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 14, 2014, 05:46:02 PM

Where were you on friday?

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Knux on April 14, 2014, 05:53:50 PM

Ivory... you can't really blame people for not being here. They've more to life than just a small site and one game, and you of all people should know how busy one can get.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 14, 2014, 05:54:39 PM

I figured the server was still up until voting ended.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 14, 2014, 05:59:39 PM

Me too actually. I didn't think it would go down until after voting. I blame Mess. :ugeek:

Quote from: "Skype"

[11:01:23 AM] Ivory: Mess why did the server go down anyways?
[11:01:28 AM] Ivory: I thought it would be up until post-voting
[11:02:14 AM] Messatsu: Because I'm an idiot, I restarted the server and forgot :-|
[11:02:21 AM] Ivory: Oh okay

Turns out I was right.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Davregis on April 14, 2014, 10:04:43 PM

Hah, seems this forum is still being used despite the last topic being posted about two years ago.
So why the secrecy anyway?

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 14, 2014, 10:16:07 PM

What secrecy? This topic has been in events for weeks, it was moved here so people would be more likely to see it.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Knux on April 14, 2014, 10:17:21 PM

> Secrecy

Goddamn, if it's labeled that, then it was worse advertised than I initially thought. Oh well. 3 HOURS HERE WE GO~

Gospel, he has a point. Events isn't looked at that much.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Davregis on April 14, 2014, 10:24:29 PM

Quote from: "fortegigasgospel"

What secrecy? This topic has been in events for weeks, it was moved here so people would be more likely to see it.

last post in the blog forum aside from this topic was two years ago :L

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 14, 2014, 10:54:29 PM

Oh right, that thing exists, doesn't it.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 14, 2014, 11:52:18 PM

One hour until voting time is over.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Voting time!-
Post by: Ivory on April 15, 2014, 01:20:06 AM

And now, all you mega man fans. It's time to announce the winner of the first Finish that Map competition!

Now for boring technicalities, medals will be awarded when Mike gets on. Priority goes: Grand Prize (community + judge vote), then community runner up, then judge runner up. When a map wins a category, it is eliminated from winning again, even if it wins another category.

So with that out of the way, the winners!

(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17.gif)Grand Prize Winner:

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FTM04 - Primeval Ruins by Rozark Kyouko!
(http://i.imgur.com/ltM9Jrz.png)

(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17-RU.png)Community Vote Winner:

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FTM01 - Boost Man by Knux!
(http://i.imgur.com/PAqprP1.png)

(http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/images/medals/badge17-RU.png)Judge Vote Winner:

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FTM06 - FTM06 by Copy Robot!
(http://i.imgur.com/r0o9MBC.png)

Congratulations to our winners! Here is the tally for those interested in the rest of the placings.

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FTM01 - Knux   
CV: 15   
JV: 3   
Total: 18

FTM02 - Jc
CV: 0
JV: 0
Total: 0

FTM03 - Rozark   
CV: 16   
JV: 6
Total: 22

FTM04 - Shade
CV: 8
JV: 2   
Total: 10

FTM05 - Gospel
CV: 7
JV:  0   
Total: 7

FTM06 - Mystery
CV: 3
JV: 4   
Total: 7

FTM07 - Woohoo
CV: 9
JV: 0
Total: 9

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: Rozark on April 15, 2014, 01:36:31 AM

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Oh man, that Concreteman is going to look nice next to my Protomen.
Thanks everyone for the votes, I really appreciate it.
Now to go throw the map in Rozpack Expansion I, coming ????.

But uh, what exactly do you mean by "When a map wins a category"?

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: Knux on April 15, 2014, 01:52:38 AM

Basically, when a map was decided to win one category, it's prevented from winning the others. Otherwise, you would've won all three.

Thanks everyone for your support! I'm happy I won something, but feedback on the map is very welcome too!

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: Rozark on April 15, 2014, 02:01:59 AM

Quote from: "Knux"

Basically, when a map was decided to win one category, it's prevented from winning the others. Otherwise, You would've won all three.

Thanks everyone for your support! I'm happy I won something, but feedback on the map is very welcome too!

Oh, that makes more sense. I thought it was something along the lines of "You can't with the FTM category in map competitions anymore".

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 15, 2014, 02:42:45 AM

Grats guys, this was fun, look forward to more in the future.
And agreed with Knux, feedback is welcome everyone.

Title: Re: Finish that Map! -Results are in!-
Post by: *Alice on April 15, 2014, 05:34:23 PM

Congratulations to the winners!