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Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch => Tutorial Collection => Topic started by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 12:33:40 AM

Title: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 12:33:40 AM

This tutorial is out of date (and imageshack ate all my tutorial images :( )

Check out a more updated tutorial here! (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=9763)

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 11, 2010, 01:35:06 AM

Skulltag won't let me test the stage. It just brings me to "Find your Doom2 wad file" and MM8BDM won't work. Also how would we use a server with our custom stages?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: RainsLikeSnow on October 11, 2010, 02:37:39 AM

can someone come up with a way to host with these

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 11, 2010, 03:17:47 AM

Thanks to Tornado, I've found out that you can put stages in the skins folder and have them appear in game. However, that doesn't allow custom music and I have a feeling that's not the right way to do it.

P.S. - I've finished updating my maps and will release them as soon as I know how the correct way to put them in game.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 08:28:33 AM

The launcher needs updating, but for now you can do this:

Go to the host tab.
Under custom parameters put the following: -file whatever.wad
whatever being the name of the wadfile. Make sure it's in the same folder or you may have to put the whole path to the file.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 11, 2010, 03:46:14 PM

Skulltag is asking me for my doom directory...but I dont have doom...I simply want to test with the MM8BDM game.

How can I solve this?

Edit:

I can load the map when placing it in the skins folder....but I get a "unknown texture sky1" bug...but my room only has about 10 walls and I never even used such a texture :/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 03:53:35 PM

Quote from: "BlaXun"

Skulltag is asking me for my doom directory...

Does it do this when you hit the test button?

About the sky thing, that's to do with the MAPINFO lump that goes along with the wad file. I'll have to explain about that another time, but if you have SLumpEd you can peer into the PK3 and look at the regular wad files to get an idea of how they work.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 11, 2010, 03:54:27 PM

I'll give it a try.
And, yes, skulltag does this once I use the test button in Doom Builder2
I very much appreaciate your help.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 03:56:09 PM

Make sure you have the games resources bits set up exactly as I have. I haven't seen this error yet.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 11, 2010, 04:08:57 PM

I have it setup the same way you did it...even when I try to start the skulltag.exe without build2 it asks me for my doom path

Edit: Starting the skulltag.exe from within doomseeker works fine :/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 11, 2010, 04:20:02 PM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

Make sure you have the games resources bits set up exactly as I have. I haven't seen this error yet.

I get the same error.
BTW, the stages are up: http://www.mediafire.com/?jwj9o96uokmdwrf

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 11, 2010, 04:47:36 PM

Yay, I am not the only one.

So, I could load the map now...but not directly from within build2...well, even if I try to load is my error now is the missing texture sky1 ....which I never even used....

Okay, I just used the "ERRORS AND WARNINGS" option in build2...it gave me a long list of things:

(click to show/hide)

Edit: NVM! This list of erros is outdated as I dont get it again after clearing it

...still, I cant run maps due to this annoying error :(

Edit: Okay, I just tried to create a completely new map...but even with just one room with the DEFAULT textures I get the "missing texture sky1" bug upon trying to start the map

Edit: I'm currently reinstalling build2 and all other stuff...will inform you if it worked :(

Edit: Reinstalled everything, created a 640*640 rooms and didnt touch the textures at all...when trying to load the map I still get the "MISSING TEXTURE SKY1" bug...now its up to you to help me...I cant get it to work :(

Edit: Even builder tells me that I dont use such a texture...all I use is one texture (for testing)

Edit: I'll have to give up for now.
I'd love to make some maps...but if I would start now and cant solve this problem later everything will be wasted :(

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 11, 2010, 07:09:45 PM

Quote from: "BlaXun"

Yay, I am not the only one.

Actually, I made these stages about 2 months ago for the demo. I should be the one saying "I am not the only one." ;)

Oh, and sorry about the error. I've never encountered it, so I can't help you.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 11, 2010, 07:39:27 PM

Damn...I really want to start creating maps...but its no use if I cant even run them ._.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 09:43:19 PM

Wait, is it running but just giving that sky error? You should just ignore it.

For testing through doom builder, are you sure you did this step?

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6864/tutorial15.png)

Try checking Customize Paremeters. If that doesn't work, try checking the Use short paths and filenames.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 11, 2010, 09:46:57 PM

Nope, it continues to tell me to point to my Doom 2 directory.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 09:54:25 PM

*BEARD SCRATCH* time to go over my steps and see if I can make it give me this error

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 11, 2010, 10:05:25 PM

Ok I can't do it.

Please browse to the following folder and post what's in your builder.cfg (open it with notepad)

C:Documents and SettingsWhateverLocal SettingsApplication DataDoom Builder

^whatever being your username is

It's pretty big so stick it in a spoiler

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 12, 2010, 12:02:39 AM

Maybe make a copy of megagame.wad and rename it doom2.wad

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 12, 2010, 12:11:59 AM

You shouldn't need to do that. I didn't need to when went through

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 12:18:11 AM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

Ok I can't do it.

Please browse to the following folder and post what's in your builder.cfg (open it with notepad)

C:Documents and SettingsWhateverLocal SettingsApplication DataDoom Builder

^whatever being your username is

It's pretty big so stick it in a spoiler

I can't find that folder, I have Windows Vista. Maybe that's the problem?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 12, 2010, 12:27:24 AM

Hmm, out of curiosity where are Doom Builder 2 and MM8BDM installed?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 12:50:04 AM

MM8BDM is installed in a folder right on my desktop. Doombuilder is in its own folder in programs.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 12, 2010, 12:57:24 AM

Try moving all your mm8bm into a folder like C:/MM8BDM or something. I know some people have had problems with programs linking to their desktops/my documents folders in windows 7/vista. Don't forget to change the paths in game configurations when you do this.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 01:21:54 AM

Eh, I'll just test them by putting them in the skins folder.
So, how do we make CTF maps? 3 is a bit too few for my liking.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2010, 01:43:05 AM

Not completely new to Doom Builder, but far from familiar with it. One problem I have is that I don't see the Decorate dropdown where all of the weapons/etc. are stored. Maps in the pk3 package are the same way; Things there appear as an error (player spawns are fine, though). Is this a simple oversight I'm missing?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 02:10:35 AM

I had the same problem until I reinstalled Doombuilder, and I know somebody else did too.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2010, 04:29:24 AM

Looks like I was on an older version. Reinstalling did the trick though, thanks a lot! :D

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 12, 2010, 02:54:02 PM

I'd still like to figure out if Windows 7 is the problem for not being able to test maps, so if you get chance please try chucking MM8BDM into C: and trying it from there :p

Quote from: "Mr. X"

Eh, I'll just test them by putting them in the skins folder.
So, how do we make CTF maps? 3 is a bit too few for my liking.

Okay you need to use the red and blue team starts (I recommend using about 18 each side) and the red and blue CTF flags (under the Flags dropdown). You should also use the white flag too, and stick it in the middle of the stage somewhere (in case people want to play one flag CTF). That's all there is to it. To test it, use offline skirmish and make sure the game mode is set to capture the flag.

Btw I completely agree, I lacked ideas for CTF layouts. If you make some cool ones I'll happily stick them in the main build if you want.

Also be very careful about what weapons you choose. Skull Barrier, Leaf Shield (unless fire/cut weapons are nearby), Proto Shield and Mirror Buster should be left out of the game completely if you ask me.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 04:21:20 PM

But I have Windows Vista, not windows 7.

Yeah, I'm thinking about having a factory with crushers similar to Dust Man's stage (I believe crushers are a sector action, correct?), conveyor belts, and (if I'm able to understand replicate the code well enough) gravity switching from Gravity Man's stage.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 12, 2010, 05:23:05 PM

I still cant test my maps.
I can use Build2 just fine...but trying to run the map fails :(
Damn...seriously...this is depressing :(

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 12, 2010, 05:58:20 PM

Did you try what I posted earlier? Moving the MM8BDM files into somewhere in C:?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 12, 2010, 06:59:47 PM

I dont have C: ....Linux messed up my system.

But still... :/
I allready could test maps some time ago before I setup build2 "correctly" ;)

Damn, I rly wanna contibute :(

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 12, 2010, 07:06:49 PM

Make a skins folder in the same folder that MM8BDM is in (if you haven't already) and copy and paste the stages you want to test in there. It works. Just remember to delete them before going online in case something bad happens.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 12, 2010, 07:09:13 PM

Thats the way I try to laod the stages,.
I got my skin folder and can also find the maps with the console...but loading will give me an error about missing texture sky1

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: squidgy617 on October 13, 2010, 12:53:23 AM

I have the same problem as everyone else :/ I might try the C: thing but that sounds like more hassle than its worth. May just test in the skins folder.

If its any help, I believe I've had this problem when configuring Doomseeker in the past.

EDIT: Both files are just in my documents, if that helps.

EDIT: Copying megagame.wad and renaming it doom2.wad worked! I think I'm just gonna stick to that.

Still wanna know how to play maps ingame though.

EDIT: When will the next tutorial be out? I need help with textures :P

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 13, 2010, 02:01:42 AM

To play maps in game or on a server, you can host a server (regardless of internet connection) and under custom parameters, type -file stagenamehere.wad.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 13, 2010, 09:18:07 AM

Quote from: "squidgy617"

EDIT: Copying megagame.wad and renaming it doom2.wad worked! I think I'm just gonna stick to that

Interesting. I need to try this on a machine with no doom2 installed and see if I get this error.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: BlaXun on October 13, 2010, 04:04:22 PM

I did the same.
I made a copy of megagame.wad ad renamed it to doom2.wad ...and now I can FINALLY test maps *-*

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 13, 2010, 06:44:54 PM

Hehe, I win.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 13, 2010, 09:58:46 PM

Okay that explains it! It was somehow finding my doom2.wad and including it when it launched (even though I never specified Doom Builder 2 to do that, cheeky bugger).

Updating the tutorial ASAP to show you how to resolve this issue without renaming megagame.wad.

Edit: Done!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 13, 2010, 10:22:35 PM

Yep, it works now! Makes my life easier.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Rukifellth on October 15, 2010, 08:04:00 PM

Do you need Doom2 to run Doom Builder 2?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Korby on October 15, 2010, 08:07:01 PM

Do you need bread to make a sammich? No.
You do not need Doom 2 to run Doom Builder.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CarThief on October 17, 2010, 10:13:32 PM

Hmm... At first when i tried making a map with these settings, for whatever reason, Doom Builder didnt load any of the DECORATE information at all.
I managed to fix it by making an Wad file and basically putting all of the decorate code in it without having it refer to the decorate in the pk3 file (i think DB2 simply has trouble finding decorate items when stuff like "#include "actors/inventory/megabuster.txt"" is used), and Doom Builder finnaly loaded all the weapons and items!

If this problem happens to other people maybe you could include the steps i did in the tutorial? I could even send the file i made. :P

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: OrangeMario on October 18, 2010, 05:44:46 AM

Thanks for the tutorial, I didn't know i was suppost to use "skulltag hexen format" the whole time! now i can get back to finnishing up my oilman map. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mega_Luigi on October 18, 2010, 07:44:30 PM

edit: never mind found out how

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Hallan Parva on October 19, 2010, 09:12:08 PM

Really dumb question.

I was wondering if Doom Builder 2 was portable; that is, it doesn't require any device drivers or anything to run.

Deathmatch is portable, I run it off my flash drive all the time!

I got DB2 to work, but I just need to know if it's possible to use it on a different computer or off a flash drive. If not, that's fine, but I won't be able to map as much as I would like.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 19, 2010, 09:20:10 PM

I can't remember if it requires any extra dlls or windows updates. I shouldn't think so though.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: squidgy617 on October 21, 2010, 01:01:11 AM

I have a problem. When I load my .wad in Doom Builder, it says something like "Here are the maps found in the wad. Please choose the correct map" and it gives me only one option: whatever file I added to the .wad last. Its really annoying because when I load it, it makes it so it counts as my .wad has nothing but maps in it. I don't know what the problem is.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MD-2a03 on October 21, 2010, 06:19:49 PM

Not sure if I should ask this here or make a new thread but how would I go about creating a new "thing"? Like a decoration that just sits in place and is static/animated?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 22, 2010, 05:58:33 PM

Do you mean "decorate"?

That's just custom objects Cutmanmike made for MM8BDM.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MD-2a03 on October 22, 2010, 06:16:00 PM

Yeah, how would I go about making a new object for a map? Custom content I mean. There's a couple things I want to add for a custom map I'm working on and I'm not sure how one would go about it. Any tutorials anyone could forward me to?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Korby on October 23, 2010, 03:33:27 AM

He means stuff like Gyro Man's pillars, yashichis, etc.
He wants 'em dense too.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MD-2a03 on October 23, 2010, 03:37:10 PM

Or like the Snake head in Snakemans stage. It's just a static prop with sprites for all sides. I want to make something like that. I have all the sprites, I just can't figure out how I'd go about doing it.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 23, 2010, 03:44:48 PM

I'd love to know too, it would help make MM9 and MM10 stages nicer.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 23, 2010, 11:09:55 PM

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Sprite
http://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE
http://cutstuff.net/blog/?page_id=1003
http://slumped.mancubus.net/

Read/download all of these. Don't go "TL;DR". If you read it. You'll easily be able to make custom "things".

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 23, 2010, 11:20:29 PM

3rd link is not mandatory :p

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on October 23, 2010, 11:22:18 PM

Don't be so modest. I don't use decorate without having Decorate Assistant. It just makes life so much easier when I don't need to memorize a bunch of keywords!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 24, 2010, 03:55:41 PM

I never knew so many used it. I never use it! It really needs updating too but it's a lot of grunt work ;)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on October 25, 2010, 07:28:46 PM

So Wait, Can You Get Rid Of The Red ! Texture? If you can, is there something to tell me how to? Yeah, I Know, Bad Questions. I'm just new to Doom Builder 2. :|

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MD-2a03 on October 25, 2010, 10:58:30 PM

Thanks for the links, and why would I TL;DR it? Doom stuff isn't that insanely hard to learn lol. If someone's really that lazy, they shouldn't even bother. :p

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 27, 2010, 03:10:51 PM

Quote from: "Skye.EXE"

So Wait, Can You Get Rid Of The Red ! Texture? If you can, is there something to tell me how to? Yeah, I Know, Bad Questions. I'm just new to Doom Builder 2. :|

Press space when aiming at the wall and give it a texture. You can also copy-paste textures and "flood fill" if you set the buttons in your controls. Press F5 to set them.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on October 28, 2010, 01:01:49 AM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

Quote from: "Skye.EXE"
So Wait, Can You Get Rid Of The Red ! Texture? If you can, is there something to tell me how to? Yeah, I Know, Bad Questions. I'm just new to Doom Builder 2. :|
Press space when aiming at the wall and give it a texture. You can also copy-paste textures and "flood fill" if you set the buttons in your controls. Press F5 to set them.

Of course I Was That Clueless. x-x

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on October 28, 2010, 10:59:45 AM

"The setup files are corrupted, please obtain a new version of the files"

Wut. Come on, man!

Alright, dling it from elsewhere helped.

How does one add new textures?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 28, 2010, 03:37:51 PM

I'll do a separate tutorial for that... eventually

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on October 28, 2010, 04:14:48 PM

I hope eventually means soon because I need to make Sheep Man's map :mad:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 28, 2010, 04:45:50 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

"The setup files are corrupted, please obtain a new version of the files"

Wut. Come on, man!

Alright, dling it from elsewhere helped.

How does one add new textures?

Add new textures to a map? First, go to edit, then map options. Click "add resources..." and on the new window, click the "From Directory" tab. Find the directory containing all of your textures. Then click the "Load images in directory root as textures" box and click ok. This should allow you to use images in the directory as textures in DoomBuilder2, but not in game. Open the stage.wad file in slumped and import all of the images used as lumps. They should appear in game now, too.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on October 28, 2010, 05:40:20 PM

How do I make ladders?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 28, 2010, 06:08:50 PM

Quote from: "TheBladeRoden"

How do I make ladders?

It's actually quite simple the way CutmanMike's done it.

Simply double click on the line and just copy how he did it to create a legit MM8BDM ladder. Here's a screenshot:
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8134/blackmanladderreference.png)

I've circled the important bits.

I hope this gives you a good idea of how things work in Skulltag.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on October 28, 2010, 07:07:53 PM

Thanks Mr. X and DTD, few extra things.

I have a ramp of stairs leading to a platform... however, above each stair is a sort of box on the ceiling... it looks terrible and I don't know how to get rid of it.

And how to add music? I probably won't get it looped correctly but any music is better than silence.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 28, 2010, 07:44:48 PM

Ok, I've got a question with the new update. Can I safely delete the v1a PK3 without losing any data? When I try to test in DoomBuilder, it tries to load both pk3s which increases loading times and makes it so I can't fire.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on October 28, 2010, 07:46:11 PM

v1b contains all the data of v1a so sure. You may need to point to v1b in the game configurations in DB2 though.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on October 28, 2010, 07:50:24 PM

I've done that, it's just in testing parameters, although I only have skulltag.exe and megagame.wad listed, it tries to load all of the pk3s. I'll just delete v1a then.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: NitroBro on October 29, 2010, 06:34:16 PM

can anyone tell me how to add custom tilesets and use them?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on October 30, 2010, 08:35:10 PM

It's possible to use to make a WAD with normal Doom Builder (1)?

I don't have "Windows XP Service Pack 2 Informations" and I will not because my PC is too weak for this Update... :cry:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on October 30, 2010, 08:36:41 PM

Of course it is. It's just Doom Builder 2 makes editing life so much easier.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 01, 2010, 10:11:31 PM

Actually I tried to make a Level in Doom Builder (1) and This is result:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4285/doomerror.png
is here any way to Fix it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Accel on November 03, 2010, 08:00:55 AM

I keep getting an error message saying "Things not found in TESTSTAGE". Any suggestions?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on November 03, 2010, 09:14:26 AM

Quote from: "Shooting Star"

Actually I tried to make a Level in Doom Builder (1) and This is result:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4285/doomerror.png
is here any way to Fix it?

You're using Doom Builder rather than Doom Builder 2.

Quote from: "Accel"

I keep getting an error message saying "Things not found in TESTSTAGE". Any suggestions?

That map name might be too long. Try TESTST or something.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 03, 2010, 02:21:32 PM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

Quote from: "Shooting Star"
Actually I tried to make a Level in Doom Builder (1) and This is result:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4285/doomerror.png
is here any way to Fix it?

You're using Doom Builder rather than Doom Builder 2.

Quote from: "Shooting Star"
I don't have "Windows XP Service Pack 2 Informations" and I will not because my PC is too weak for this Update... :cry:

Without "Windows XP Service Pack 2 Informations" I can't install Doom Builder 2

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on November 03, 2010, 02:22:49 PM

Can't you update your copy of XP? I believe it's a free upgrade.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... 368D3CDB5A (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 03, 2010, 03:10:36 PM

Quote from: "Shooting Star"

PC is too weak for this Update... :cry:

[/quote]
D:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on November 03, 2010, 03:25:14 PM

:geek: Weak how?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 03, 2010, 05:23:27 PM

Gah... This Update need more power than my Computer can Give for it and if I install it my PC will crash.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on November 04, 2010, 03:10:50 AM

Quote from: "Shooting Star"

Gah... This Update need more power than my Computer can Give for it and if I install it my PC will crash.

Buy/build a new PC. It sounds as if your computer sucks very much.
That will fix the problem.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 04, 2010, 06:59:04 PM

Phew I really didn't thinked about it. (-_-)
Well my parents don't have money for new PC...
If you say "find a job"... tell me what job can have 12 years old boy Good at English and ICT? (I am Polish people)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 04, 2010, 07:02:26 PM

Paper round :p

Really? You're 12?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 04, 2010, 07:10:17 PM

Yes. I am really 12.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 04, 2010, 07:19:42 PM

Do you have written parental consent to be here? If not, then you technically aren't allowed on here.

Quote

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Gotten from the FAQ. As a general rule of thumb, most websites do not let anybody under 13 to be on them at all without parental consent.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 04, 2010, 08:38:25 PM

oh man. I have brithday tommorow >.> I will be 13 years old.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: NitroBro on November 05, 2010, 03:03:42 AM

Quote from: "BradeDude"

can anyone tell me how to add custom tilesets and use them?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on November 05, 2010, 03:22:50 AM

Quote from: "BradeDude"

Quote from: "BradeDude"
can anyone tell me how to add custom tilesets and use them?

If you look at this file long enouph in XWE/Slumped, you'll learn how to add custom textures in maps.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mtaftv

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 05, 2010, 02:20:40 PM

So... Is here anyway to fix my error with Doom Builder (1) and make maps with it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 05, 2010, 07:16:31 PM

Quote from: "Mr. X"

Add new textures to a map? First, go to edit, then map options. Click "add resources..." and on the new window, click the "From Directory" tab. Find the directory containing all of your textures. Then click the "Load images in directory root as textures" box and click ok. This should allow you to use images in the directory as textures in DoomBuilder2, but not in game. Open the stage.wad file in slumped and import all of the images used as lumps. They should appear in game now, too.

Please read all of the topic next time, BradeDude.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 07, 2010, 01:11:52 PM

Can someone finnaly answer my question?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 07, 2010, 02:29:53 PM

I'm pretty sure you need Doom Builder 2.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Shooting Star on November 07, 2010, 09:40:09 PM

I am pretty sure I don't need Doom Builder 2. I just need to fix this problem. But I don't know how.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 07, 2010, 09:43:17 PM

Looking back at the last few pages, it seems you've already gotten your answer: update your computer. Like it or not, that's the solution.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ice on November 10, 2010, 12:13:30 AM

=_=; Ive been stressing myself for a while now, and I've been looking all over the forums, all to answer one simple question. how do you add music and flat grass textures

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 10, 2010, 01:29:01 AM

You've been everywhere but this topic apparently. I've already said how to add textures. If you mean the grass objects, they're under "DECORATE" at the bottom of the add things list.

Also, for adding music, just add the music file to your .wad and edit the mapinfo so it plays the music.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ice on November 10, 2010, 01:54:48 AM

Quote from: "Mr. X"

You've been everywhere but this topic apparently. I've already said how to add textures. If you mean the grass objects, they're under "DECORATE" at the bottom of the add things list.

Also, for adding music, just add the music file to your .wad and edit the mapinfo so it plays the music.

No what I mean by grass and other flat textures is, how to you add stuff like thin walls like the windows in cutman's stage or the windows in flameman's or the grass in woodman's

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 10, 2010, 02:49:57 AM

Add a middle sidedef. Adjust it to the right height. 'nuff said.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on November 10, 2010, 03:23:19 AM

Quote from: "Mr. X"

Add a middle texture to the sidedef. Adjust it to the right offsets. 'nuff said.

Fixed.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ice on November 10, 2010, 07:12:31 PM

gonna bug you guys about one more thing. for some reason the deathmatch start points dont work for some odd reason and aslo a really weird one, for some odd reason nothing respawns, if I grab a weapon energy, its gone forever, proto, bass, E and W tanks dont respawn either, and when I grabed flame mans weapon, it dissapeared. can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: KKSliX on November 11, 2010, 03:18:42 PM

I really don't know how to add music to my stage...unless it has already been explained, then I will DERP myself.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 11, 2010, 03:19:57 PM

Quote from: "Mr. X"

Also, for adding music, just add the music file to your .wad and edit the mapinfo so it plays the music.

Derp derp, it's even on the same page. Look harder.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: RainsLikeSnow on November 11, 2010, 09:46:19 PM

do we still use v1a or do we use v1b

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 11, 2010, 09:47:27 PM

V1b obviously since that's the newer version.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: KKSliX on November 12, 2010, 12:06:13 AM

...I really don't know how to add music to my map, and I don't know where the mapinfo is.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 12, 2010, 12:30:38 AM

You have to open your map's .wad file using Slumped and create a mapinfo lump. I recommend opening a stage from the game, exporting one of the maps' mapinfo files, importing it into your map, and then changing the data you need to change. Then, just add the audio file to the wad.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: KKSliX on November 12, 2010, 12:33:06 AM

...i feel stupid...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ice on November 12, 2010, 02:42:11 AM

Quote from: "ice"

gonna bug you guys about one more thing. for some reason the deathmatch start points dont work for some odd reason and aslo a really weird one, for some odd reason nothing respawns, if I grab a weapon energy, its gone forever, proto, bass, E and W tanks dont respawn either, and when I grabed flame mans weapon, it dissapeared. can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?

still awaiting a answer

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on November 12, 2010, 02:43:41 AM

It's because you started in Single Player, not Deathmatch.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Jennifer on November 12, 2010, 12:56:08 PM

I Know i'm going to sound Stupid,but...How do I made a ladder? :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 12, 2010, 03:19:14 PM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

Quote from: "TheBladeRoden"
How do I make ladders?
It's actually quite simple the way CutmanMike's done it.

Simply double click on the line and just copy how he did it to create a legit MM8BDM ladder. Here's a screenshot:
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8134/blackmanladderreference.png)

I've circled the important bits.

I hope this gives you a good idea of how things work in Skulltag.

Da. Reading is good.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: playerman on November 12, 2010, 08:55:14 PM

how do i make a wall?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 12, 2010, 09:10:32 PM

Wow... it's on the front page.

Vertices mode, right click and draw.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: playerman on November 12, 2010, 09:30:05 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Wow... it's on the front page.

Vertices mode, right click and draw.

how do i make it solid and visible?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 12, 2010, 09:34:32 PM

It is visible. If you're getting blur when you look at it, go into viewing mode (W) and if it has red ! textures, cursor over it, right click, and select textures for it.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: playerman on November 12, 2010, 09:50:49 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

It is visible. If you're getting blur when you look at it, go into viewing mode (W) and if it has red ! textures, cursor over it, right click, and select textures for it.

there is no texture at all. I can make a square but i can't make a wall inside of the square
. I discovered that I had to increase the height of the floor. thankyou

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Jennifer on November 13, 2010, 06:42:54 PM

Err...Another Question...How do I make Opening/Closing Doors? >.>"

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on November 14, 2010, 02:00:27 AM

If you want to learn something you've seen in a map. Just open the map up in an editor and look at how it's done.

If you want to make a Door like in MMCTF07. Then look at it in an editor. That's how I learnt... 80% of the things I do while mapping.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on November 14, 2010, 02:20:07 AM

That's how I do it too. Everything in CTF05's code was pretty much ripped right out of Metal, Dust, Gravity, and Bright Man's code.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 22, 2010, 05:08:52 PM

Yes, so I have been looking at official maps, but music files come up as "Unknown" in SlumpED. Does it have to be a certain file type, or can I use any old file?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Lio on November 22, 2010, 09:02:00 PM

I believe Skulltag accepts almost any music format, but .ogg is preferred nowadays.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 22, 2010, 09:03:49 PM

I have NEVER heard of an .ogg

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on November 22, 2010, 09:06:58 PM

The Ogg Vorbis is a very compact format that keeps good quality. It's ideal to use in mapping. Things like Audacity export songs into .ogg format.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 22, 2010, 09:08:15 PM

Oh, cool. Cheers.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on November 28, 2010, 05:08:51 PM

It won't open.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 28, 2010, 07:39:27 PM

One question - I was editing Pharoahman's map for the V2 project (different layout, don't worry.) and whenever I test it bots spawn. How do I stop this? I removed all he deathmatch starts and replaced them with player starts so don't worry.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MegamanFTW on November 29, 2010, 12:54:34 AM

it wont let me test

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on November 29, 2010, 02:05:46 PM

Yeah, the floor never shows up and I'm not sure how I can get the tiles into the map (I'm new to Doom Maps BTW)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on November 29, 2010, 02:15:46 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

One question - I was editing Pharoahman's map for the V2 project (different layout, don't worry.) and whenever I test it bots spawn. How do I stop this? I removed all he deathmatch starts and replaced them with player starts so don't worry.

MM8BDM uses a campaign which adds bots automatically depending on the map name (MM4PHA in this case). You can either change the name to something else, or do offline skirmish with no bots added.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on November 29, 2010, 04:54:50 PM

Alright thanks.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on November 30, 2010, 12:11:22 AM

i go to test my stage, but it says "thing" not found in....
what do i do?

and how do i make gyro springs?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on November 30, 2010, 12:12:56 AM

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"

i go to test my stage, but it says "thing" not found in....
what do i do?

and how do i make gyro springs?

Can you go into a bit more detail?

As for the Gyro springs... Go extract the GyroMan map out, open it up, see how it's done.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on November 30, 2010, 12:14:14 AM

It won't let me make sectors :/

What do I do?

_("/)_/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on November 30, 2010, 12:17:35 AM

idk i just make a map, make a playerstar and go click test stage, and it says cannot continue because "things" not found in...(thestage name)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 01, 2010, 03:27:02 AM

idk but the problem is fixed, i do not know what was causing it, but
how do i make ladders and water?
2. do i add player starts to my map or just deathmatch starts?
3 how do i make invisible walls?
4 how do i make those windows like in skull man's stage(bones)or thos hanging solar panels in top man's stage??
5. how do you make circular objects like the pipes in drill man's stage?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ice on December 01, 2010, 06:58:01 PM

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"

idk but the problem is fixed, i do not know what was causing it, but

1. how do i make ladders and water?
there was already a post about it somewhere, or you can just open a stage in doom builder and look at how it works (as for the water, I still couldent figure it out)

2. do i add player starts to my map or just deathmatch starts?
player start if you just want to try it without bots

3 how do i make invisible walls?
click on the wall you want a impassable wall over and check the box "impassable"

4 how do i make those windows like in skull man's stage(bones)or thos hanging solar panels in top man's stage??
usualy to create floating objects like that, just make a small rectangle, raise it and add a center texture to both sides, same works for windows.

5. how do you make circular objects like the pipes in drill man's stage?
just draw a octagon for starters then maby make it rounder

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 01, 2010, 08:01:12 PM

If you want to learn something, open up a map and copy how it's done!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on December 01, 2010, 09:22:41 PM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"
One question - I was editing Pharoahman's map for the V2 project (different layout, don't worry.) and whenever I test it bots spawn. How do I stop this? I removed all he deathmatch starts and replaced them with player starts so don't worry.

MM8BDM uses a campaign which adds bots automatically depending on the map name (MM4PHA in this case). You can either change the name to something else, or do offline skirmish with no bots added.

Exactly What I Had In Mind, As Well They stage turned out Well Yellow, So Don't Worry about opinions XD. Also, I Still Don't Understand How to Add Music To The Stage, also i have stuff set to 255 lighting but the colors look partly dim.

EDIT: Nevermind Music Is Already Here, DERP ME. XD

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on December 01, 2010, 09:23:24 PM

Quote from: "ice"

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"
idk but the problem is fixed, i do not know what was causing it, but

1. how do i make ladders and water?
there was already a post about it somewhere, or you can just open a stage in doom builder and look at how it works (as for the water, I still couldent figure it out)

2. do i add player starts to my map or just deathmatch starts?
player start if you just want to try it without bots

3 how do i make invisible walls?
click on the wall you want a impassable wall over and check the box "impassable"

4 how do i make those windows like in skull man's stage(bones)or thos hanging solar panels in top man's stage??
usualy to create floating objects like that, just make a small rectangle, raise it and add a center texture to both sides, same works for windows.

5. how do you make circular objects like the pipes in drill man's stage?
just draw a octagon for starters then maby make it rounder

Yet Another Problem Solved ^_^

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 01, 2010, 10:56:02 PM

is there a way to make a block smaller than 32 by 32? i mean that isnt a triangle? i saw some things in some stages where he did that, but it wont let me draw it like that..
is there a way to align textures for floors and ceilings?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 02, 2010, 12:11:24 AM

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"

is there a way to align textures for floors and ceilings?

Yes but that's ACS stuff. http://zdoom.org/wiki/Sector_SetFloorPanning

Oh and try the [ and ] keys to change the grid size. You can also make a circle by using the curve linedef tool.

EDIT: Fixed url tag.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 02, 2010, 12:56:21 AM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"
is there a way to align textures for floors and ceilings?
Yes but that's ACS stuff. (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Sector_SetFloorPanning)

Oh and try the [ and ] keys to change the grid size. You can also make a circle by using the curve linedef tool.

what do you mean by "ACS stuff"?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 04, 2010, 10:53:51 AM

So I fucked up on Diveman's Upgraded map and now it's unplayable.
I've got all these .bak and .backup2 thingies for it, how do I use them to get my stuff back?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on December 05, 2010, 02:47:33 AM

HOw do I add my tiles from my MM8BDM folder into the sectors?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on December 05, 2010, 02:49:54 AM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

So I fucked up on Diveman's Upgraded map and now it's unplayable.
I've got all these .bak and .backup2 thingies for it, how do I use them to get my stuff back?

Why did they make it if we dont even know how to use these backups?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on December 05, 2010, 02:54:15 AM

Quote from: "MagnetMan497"

HOw do I add my tiles from my MM8BDM folder into the sectors?

Honestly, I know I've answered this about 3 times in this topic alone. Use the search feature.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 05, 2010, 08:56:54 AM

Quote from: "Skye.EXE"

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"
So I fucked up on Diveman's Upgraded map and now it's unplayable.
I've got all these .bak and .backup2 thingies for it, how do I use them to get my stuff back?
Why did they make it if we dont even know how to use these backups?

Beats me. Can't load them so I'm stumped.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 05, 2010, 09:02:01 AM

Well this is annoying, but you have to actually manually type in the backup name. Or copy and paste works as well. But you can't select the backup files as far as I can tell...which is odd, because you could do that in Doom Builder 1.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 05, 2010, 09:07:17 AM

Thank you Ivory, that seemed to work... as far as playing it is concerned. Can I just load the backup in doombuilder or something? Or am I limited to just playing it...?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 05, 2010, 09:13:01 AM

Of course. In the open map dialogue box, just type/paste in the back up name and load it. Then use save as to save it overtop of the screwed up file, thus you now have a non screwed up file.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 05, 2010, 09:14:20 AM

Thanks alot. They should have a manual for this.

;)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on December 08, 2010, 02:57:32 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Thanks alot. They should have a manual for this.

;)

Doom builder expects us to know all this? Lol.

EDIT: Great, Now I've Moved On To Outside Areas, Every time I try to make on i keep getting error popups every 4 secs and then DB2 Crashes. I think I should just look for something that explains it. :shock:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 08, 2010, 03:27:02 PM

i add a lot of deathmatch starts but the computers wont show up when i start a deathmatch, is there anything i need to do before this to make it work?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on December 08, 2010, 03:28:40 PM

Did you launch the game with offline skirmish (with bots added) through the multiplayer menu?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 08, 2010, 03:32:11 PM

i only did it through doom builder test mode, which probably doesnt work, thanks

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 09, 2010, 06:25:07 PM

How do I make animated tiles? They're all PNGs in SlumpED which really confused me!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: T3H PL4Y3R on December 09, 2010, 06:59:06 PM

I think you need to make the tiles which you want to animate in an order, like the water in Centuarman's stage:
CWATER1
CWATER2
CWATER3
CWATER4
Then you will have to make a copy of CWATER1, and remove the number, making it CWATER like the PNG files in Centaurman's stage

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 09, 2010, 07:15:25 PM

Is this official? I'd rather hear a certain person than someone who isn't quite sure.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: T3H PL4Y3R on December 09, 2010, 07:42:16 PM

I found out. What you need to do is create a 'Unknown' lump, and call it 'ANIMDEFS'.Then, by using Centaurman's code, do it like this:

Code: [Select]

texture CENTFAL
    allowdecals
    pic CENTFAL1 tics 4
	pic CENTFAL2 tics 4
	pic CENTFAL3 tics 4
	
texture CWATER
    allowdecals
    pic CWATER1 tics 12
	pic CWATER2 tics 12
	pic CWATER3 tics 12
	pic CWATER4 tics 12

I'm not sure what the 'tics' are, but thats how it should be done.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 09, 2010, 07:43:52 PM

I know what the tic is, it's the amount of time between frames. Thanks for finding that out for me though.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 09, 2010, 07:47:35 PM

To be exact. a tic is the amount of time spent on a frame. There are 35 tics in one second.
Tics are also the frame rate of Doom based games, like mm8bdm.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on December 09, 2010, 08:08:25 PM

such an oddnumbered framerate

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 09, 2010, 08:20:21 PM

I really think someone should make an "advanced" tutorial with MAPINFO, Music, Tilesets, Ladders and other sector actions etc.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ryuga_knight on December 09, 2010, 08:36:14 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

I really think someone should make an "advanced" tutorial with MAPINFO, Music, Tilesets, Ladders and other sector actions etc.

DO IT! WE NEED ANSWERES TO STUFF WE CAN

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on December 09, 2010, 09:23:18 PM

You can still figure out anything in Doombuilder just by look at other maps.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 09, 2010, 09:55:56 PM

Time for a lecture on the subject of mapping and design.
================================================

Do you think I honestly learned mapping by getting tutorials? No. When I was in your positions, I learned the doom builder interface, worked by trial and error, looked other peoples maps to see how they make things work and most importantly, Let ZDoom Wiki (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Main_Page) become my best friend.

Then came years, and years of practice. You cannot, and I repeat, CANNOT expect to become a master mapper in a matter of weeks. Not only must you learn the technological part. You must also learn the creative and fundamental idealism of what is good design and what is bad design.

Being able to sit down and think, play test dozens of time. Is it fun? Is it well designed? Does it look good? Is the gameplay solid? Is this map the best it can be? Those are the type of questions you have to ask yourself. Patience is a virtue in this field.

With that being said, Mapping is design, mapping involves technological skill and most importantly, patience. If you aren't willing to take the time to learn, you are honestly not cut out for this field. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from trying. However I see too many novices at mappers who simply do understand these concepts. Take from this what you will, but understand this.
You will learn far more by making mistakes and fixing them, then you will by demanding tutorials.

TL;DR or TL;DC?... Well tough, if you aren't going to read what I said, then you really don't have the patience for mapping. Especially if you were of the latter Too long.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 10, 2010, 01:34:36 AM

I never ask how to do Doom related editing on Forums, I always use the Zdoom wiki and use other WADS as resources. This is the Doom community, you're allowed to do that but be aware of the differences between stealing and borrowing. It's also nice to give credit if you take a massive chunk of code from someone.

Also, don't take a load of resources and claim it as your own. *Cough* "Super Skulltag" *Cough*

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 10, 2010, 08:12:15 AM

I know... I'm not saying I don't look at the maps, because I do, but some things still evade me. I've got about 16 extracted official maps I've been studying, but I can't do skyboxes, for example. I just thought someone writing a useful tutorial would save time, rather than just saying "do it yourself".

If no-one wants to...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 10, 2010, 12:51:58 PM

USE THE ZDOOM WIKI. (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Main_Page)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 10, 2010, 02:52:20 PM

How kind of you, sir.

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

rather than just saying "do it yourself".

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 10, 2010, 05:31:18 PM

FFFFFFFF (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Skybox)UUUUUUU- (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:SkyViewpoint)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 12, 2010, 09:16:37 PM

Code: [Select]

Could anyone tell me if it is possible to change music based on sectors? Because I want the underworld theme to play when you go underground (obviously) or else it wouldn't fit.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Skye.EXE on December 13, 2010, 07:59:59 PM

Quote from: "Skye.EXE"

Darn it making outdoor areas was so much easier with DB1...

I Don't Think people are understanding me... i know how to make a skybox, i DON'T know how to make an outside AREA.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 13, 2010, 08:05:05 PM

I don't think you are understanding me... Stop. Double. Posting.
I keep warning you, If I see you posting, then making a post to QUOTE YOURSELF. There will be consequences.

To make an our door area, the sector ceiling flat needs to be F_Sky1.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 14, 2010, 11:39:28 PM

i went into visual mode, and for some reaso its not letting me fly around to look everywhere now, its only acting like i can walk on the floor, how do i make it allow me to look everywhere again?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 14, 2010, 11:40:13 PM

Press G to toggle gravity on and off...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 15, 2010, 03:11:53 AM

ok thanks, i did not know that lol

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 15, 2010, 05:34:52 PM

Something I still don't get about skyboxes.

In MM8BDM, skyboxes appear to be on all sides. For example, MM2DW1 has the huge ground area outside the map. Whenever I try this, I just get the blurry 'no texture'. I get that you don't set the texture to the outside, but how do I sort of well, trigger the sides to be in the skybox? I don't think I explained that well but I hope someone understands me.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CutmanMike on December 15, 2010, 05:55:03 PM

There's an object inside the skybox called a skybox viewpoint that needs to go in the middle of the skybox. Raise it's Z height up a bit (so the view isn't inside the floor) and all sky SHOULD become that skybox.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Mr. X on December 15, 2010, 05:57:09 PM

Wait, are you putting the ground outside of the playing area into the skybox? The large amount of ground outside of the playing area in MM2DW1 is actually not part of the skybox.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 15, 2010, 05:58:13 PM

Okay so I can put that in... but still, the skybox appears 'outside' the map, like, above the area where I want it to be... I'll get a pic if needed. Hold on...

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj107/MaxPower7137/Explanation.png)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 15, 2010, 06:10:44 PM

Doom builder screenshot please.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 15, 2010, 06:13:09 PM

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj107/MaxPower7137/Explanation2.png)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 15, 2010, 06:41:19 PM

What the hell? What's with the background? You ask for a tutorial on how to make a skybox yet you haven't even learnt the bare basics of the program?

I'll let you figure how to fix this extremely simple problem by yourself.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 15, 2010, 06:46:17 PM

Well it was in the grid options? I wondered what it does so I tried it... eheh.

I'll change it back, but it doesn't fix anything.

And I don't see how adding a backround is "not knowing the bare features of the program". It didn't break anything.... meanie.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 15, 2010, 10:48:07 PM

ok i have a few question
1 is there a way to copy your texture/ sector and paste it around?
i made a few stalagmite things, and i wanna copy them and paste them around the roof to make it look like more
2 is there a way to make an antire room brighter? i think with the birghtness tool, but how do you use that.
3 so i understand a skybox as making a big circle, putting the skybox viewpoint in it
then i keep the roof of where i want the skybox area to be f sky
and i keep the walls "!" right?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 15, 2010, 11:41:03 PM

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"

ok i have a few question
1 is there a way to copy your texture/ sector and paste it around?
i made a few stalagmite things, and i wanna copy them and paste them around the roof to make it look like more
2 is there a way to make an antire room brighter? i think with the birghtness tool, but how do you use that.
3 so i understand a skybox as making a big circle, putting the skybox viewpoint in it
then i keep the roof of where i want the skybox area to be f sky
and i keep the walls "!" right?

Press F5 and you'll learn all the controls. Everything else, I'm not going to tell you. You need to learn yourself.

And yes, F_SKY1 is the sky texture.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 16, 2010, 01:57:52 AM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

Quote from: "VyseTheLegend96"
ok i have a few question
1 is there a way to copy your texture/ sector and paste it around?
i made a few stalagmite things, and i wanna copy them and paste them around the roof to make it look like more
2 is there a way to make an antire room brighter? i think with the birghtness tool, but how do you use that.
3 so i understand a skybox as making a big circle, putting the skybox viewpoint in it
then i keep the roof of where i want the skybox area to be f sky
and i keep the walls "!" right?
Press F5 and you'll learn all the controls. Everything else, I'm not going to tell you. You need to learn yourself.

And yes, F_SKY1 is the sky texture.

i got 1 and 2 to work, just working on number 3, thx

EDIT: Im a bit confused on number three
i can make the roof sky , but i cannot make the walls sky, so what do i make them?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 16, 2010, 06:47:47 PM

You can work that out by looking at pretty much any MM8BDM map. If you noclip through the wall sky bit. It'll come to you instantly.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 16, 2010, 06:57:36 PM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

You can work that out by looking at pretty much any MM8BDM map. If you noclip through the wall sky bit. It'll come to you instantly.

i checked it out, and i see there is a bit more floor behind it, but im still confused by it

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 16, 2010, 07:07:23 PM

That's how to do it.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 16, 2010, 07:09:23 PM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

That's how to do it.

but its barely even a wall, and theres no roof to the floor behind it, its confusing...
oh and i had another question, where and how do you change what it says when you die, like i wanna change the pits to saying You fell too far..when you fall into them..

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 16, 2010, 07:23:37 PM

After some studying, you have to make an impassable linedef with action 9, followed by the actual wall where you want the skybox.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on December 16, 2010, 09:50:33 PM

How do you make it so your map plays a custom music when the frags left get down to 5? I tried using this script but it does nothing.

Code: [Select]

#include "zcommon.acs"

script 1 (void)
{
if(PlayerFrags() == GetCVar("fraglimit") - 5)
	{
	SetMusic("BOWSMUS2");
	}
}

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: VyseTheLegend96 on December 16, 2010, 11:26:35 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

After some studying, you have to make an impassable linedef with action 9, followed by the actual wall where you want the skybox.

Thaaaaaaaannnnnnnkkkkkkk Yooooooouuuuuuu!!!!
It worked! The map looks a lot better now.
Could someone post the form for mapinfo and explain a bit of how i add it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 18, 2010, 05:12:01 PM

Is it possible to have a teleporter that teleports you to a random location?

EDIT: Zdoom wiki helps, for once.

*slapheadinshame*

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2010, 05:23:36 PM

can I use Doom Builder 1? :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 20, 2010, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: "Lauro-JP"

can I use Doom Builder 1? :?

Nope, MM8BDM textures are in .pk3 format which Doom Builder 1 doesn't recognise.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on December 20, 2010, 08:29:02 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Is it possible to have a teleporter that teleports you to a random location?

EDIT: Zdoom wiki helps, for once.

*slapheadinshame*

link?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 21, 2010, 06:54:53 PM

Quote from: "TheBladeRoden"

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"
Is it possible to have a teleporter that teleports you to a random location?

EDIT: Zdoom wiki helps, for once.

*slapheadinshame*
link?

Use google, the Zdoom wiki has a search option so you can learn about anything.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Jennifer on December 21, 2010, 11:41:21 PM

Dunno if someone already asked,But,How do i stop bots form Jumping into Pits?It Gets REALLY annoying when Ballade jumps into a pit while placing ballade mines on my Custom boss fight map.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 22, 2010, 12:50:29 AM

Due to CutmanMike's bot trickery, just set the linedefs as "block monsters"

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Jennifer on December 22, 2010, 12:58:33 AM

Thanks.This'll be a big help.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ryuga_knight on December 24, 2010, 12:02:22 AM

I tried loading my map in the actual game and it says it couldn't find it. I used teh add file button and everything!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: sonix[irwc] on December 25, 2010, 05:07:13 AM

Well cutmanmike everytime i try to make my map work in the game it always says no map.could u finish this tuturial so i can understand what i need to do?if not can you tell me what might be the problem and what i should do.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: darkmath on December 25, 2010, 06:33:41 AM

I have a problem, when i make my map, i put on Test Map, when the game is loaded, it says: "THINGS" of MAP01 not found or something like it, i save the wad without testing the map, and when i open it, there is no map on the wad, could anyone give me an answer or tip?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 25, 2010, 06:41:46 AM

Quote from: "sonix[irwc

"]Well cutmanmike everytime i try to make my map work in the game it always says no map.could u finish this tuturial so i can understand what i need to do?if not can you tell me what might be the problem and what i should do.

What is the name of your map?
To go to your map you must type into console:
map

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 25, 2010, 06:42:42 AM

You can't test a map without at least a player 1 start.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 25, 2010, 07:46:36 AM

Quote from: "Ivory"

You can't test a map without at least a player 1 start.

When writing a tutorial... include even the MOST obvious details.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: darkmath on December 25, 2010, 11:57:25 AM

Quote from: "Ivory"

You can't test a map without at least a player 1 start.

I placed two player starts, and no, they were diferent,one Player 1 Start and one Player 2 start. I even added weapons, weapon energy and health.

EDIT: Tried two things, re-install and use shorter name, and it's working again.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 25, 2010, 12:53:39 PM

The name can only go up to 8 characters.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: darkmath on December 25, 2010, 01:02:15 PM

That explains, that was the map name:
UNDERGROUND = 11 characters

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: sonix[irwc] on December 25, 2010, 07:52:44 PM

Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"

The name can only go up to 8 characters.

Ugh now i feel stupid :shock: since my map name was speed buster.I should realy pay attention more[dont need a response on that]

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on December 25, 2010, 10:03:28 PM

Quote from: "sonix[irwc

"]
Quote from: "DoomThroughDoom"
The name can only go up to 8 characters.
Ugh now i feel stupid :shock: since my map name was speed buster.I should realy pay attention more[dont need a response on that]

The name should be made in mapinfo. for example, in Doom, Episode 1 map 1.
"E1M1" is the name of the map. "Hanger" is the title.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Flandre Scarlet on December 31, 2010, 02:09:14 PM

I've decided to do a map Inspired in the Scarlet Devil Mansion. Im still experiencing with Doom Builder 2 though; This might take a while to be done xD

I have a question though -

Is it necessary to make starting points for all the 18 players or they're automically set?

EDIT: Nvm. A sad experience with bots awnsered me that question..

EDIT: I have another question. How do I add more than 8 startpoints? I've added all 8 and tested them with bots, but when I add the 9th bot it telefrags the one in the place. Also, How do I add a music to the map?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on December 31, 2010, 06:19:46 PM

Player 1-8 start points was intentioned for cooperative game modes. Use the Deathmatch Starts instead.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Flandre Scarlet on December 31, 2010, 06:39:09 PM

Thank you :) Since my map will be made for roboenza only, I dont think I'll be needing those.

However, I still would Like to know how to add a music to the map. If someone could awnser me, I'd be happy. I just found a video about it though - If it helps, I'll edit this post and delete the question.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on December 31, 2010, 06:40:59 PM

MAPINFO

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Flandre Scarlet on December 31, 2010, 11:05:20 PM

ALRIGHT, I've finished my map. BUT, some questions.

1 - How Do I put musics in the map? (YD's awnser didnt help much...)
EDIT: Thanks Ambrose. Now I just have to learn how to configure the ZDOOM thingy..
2 - My map just doesnt work. I tried hosting(I put the map on the extra command thingies), I tried opening MM8BDM(Also put on extra command thingies) and imputting CHANGEMAP SDMBASE in the console, nothing. EDIT: I somehow lost the map (YAY). However, what can I do to make the map appear in the game?
3 - When I try to make a stairway withouth ladders, I always end up getting the textures to show in the ceiling. Is there a way to make this not happen, I'd like to know, thank you.
EDIT: WOOT! After 1 hour of pure trial and error, I finally made it. ^^'

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: ambrose on January 01, 2011, 06:34:23 AM

http://zdoom.org/wiki/MAPINFO (http://zdoom.org/wiki/MAPINFO)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 06, 2011, 07:15:12 PM

I have some questions...

1. How i can do thoses windows like in toad man stages? i mean thoses 2D walls? and how i can raise them? there was a response but i can't still configure how i can do it D_:

2. How i can add the bats enemies (thoses enemies from woodman stage)? I was seeing it and there is a thing with the command map spot. but how i can specify the enemie and directions?

Zdoom wiki doesn't help to me :evil:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 06, 2011, 07:17:08 PM

Quote from: "Galaxy"

I have some questions...

1. How i can do thoses windows like in toad man stages? i mean thoses 2D walls? and how i can raise them? there was a response but i can't still configure how i can do it D_:

2. How i can add the bats enemies (thoses enemies from woodman stage)? I was seeing it and there is a thing with the command map spot. but how i can specify the enemie and directions?

Zdoom wiki doesn't help to me :evil:

1. Set linedef textures, middle should be the bars and it will show up beneath the floor and the ceiling.

2. Copy the officials (extract woodman and open it, click, Ctrl+C to copy Ctrl+V to paste although I'm sure you know that already) and right click to edit the directions

You could learn all of this by looking at the officials btw

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 06, 2011, 07:59:59 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Quote from: "Galaxy"
I have some questions...

1. How i can do thoses windows like in toad man stages? i mean thoses 2D walls? and how i can raise them? there was a response but i can't still configure how i can do it D_:

2. How i can add the bats enemies (thoses enemies from woodman stage)? I was seeing it and there is a thing with the command map spot. but how i can specify the enemie and directions?

Zdoom wiki doesn't help to me :evil:

1. Set linedef textures, middle should be the bars and it will show up beneath the floor and the ceiling.

2. Copy the officials (extract woodman and open it, click, Ctrl+C to copy Ctrl+V to paste although I'm sure you know that already) and right click to edit the directions

You could learn all of this by looking at the officials btw

Sorry, I am spanish and i don't unserstand very good the first. sorry
And after seeing the enemies, i found that you can specify the enemie with the tags. however, the enemies have an specify direction, and you can't change it.
Explain better the first one, please (i know i am a noob forgive me)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on January 06, 2011, 08:14:55 PM

With the bats, you'll also need to copy a chunk off the ACS code for the map. The default button for opening and editing ACS in Doom Builder 2 is F10.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 06, 2011, 10:22:10 PM

ok, thanks for the advise.

But i still need a response for the windows :/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on January 06, 2011, 11:05:58 PM

Quote from: "Galaxy"

ok, thanks for the advise.

But i still need a response for the windows :/

What do you mean "windows"? Do you mean bridges?

Take a screenshot of what you're trying to do please.

Also, I don't believe you actually even need an answer for this. Just experiment with the program, avoid asking obvious questions. Also, there is a search button on this forum as well as ZDoom wiki.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 07, 2011, 12:21:32 AM

Here are the screenshots:
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m505/GalaxyWorld/Screenshot1.png)
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m505/GalaxyWorld/Screenshot2.png)

and yes i need an answer, because every time that i experiment with it, results on nothing, it doesn't appear. Also this is not an obvious question. and i dont know what it is named, so the search button and the zdoom can't help me. And i don't understand very good the zdoom wiki. and as you can see, it look like a 2D or Paper wall.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 12:43:00 AM

...If you can't figure out how to make a mid-texture window, then I'm at a loss of words.

Examine the map, in doom builder, and it will be obvious. You create a linedef in your window, set it the middle texture to your texture of choice, set the line def flag to impassable or block players. Done.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 07, 2011, 01:21:02 AM

... I'm at a loss of words too...

I'm talking about how i can do the wall, not how to do it impassable as window. I know that long ago...

And no im not talking about the normal walls, im talking of the windows screenshot walls, thoses 2d walls....

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 01:26:39 AM

I just told you how to do that! Make a lindef between the two and place your texture of choice the middle texture. make it impassible or block players, and there you go.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 07, 2011, 03:41:29 PM

Thanks ivory, it worked but ... how i can raise or down it ?
And sorry for my insistence :cry:

EDIT: Thanks ivory, now i know how to raise it, thanks!!! and sorry for being stupid D:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 07, 2011, 05:52:58 PM

I can't get the Metal Man moving floors to work. I copied the scripts lump from Metal Man, set the tags and the right floor but nothing happened. Plus the Metal floors are vertical and mine are horizontal, but all the Metal floors are saved as horizontal in doom builder.

What's wrong?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 06:00:52 PM

There is a script in MetalMan's Stage that rotates specifically tagged floors.
Next. The floor itself doesn't actually move anyone, it is once again the script specifically causes the ones to scroll and move players along.

Alternatively, you can also just set the sector effects to use the Carry (Direction) Functions.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 07, 2011, 06:04:08 PM

Yeah but I have the scripts and can't get them working.

Any of them...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 06:05:04 PM

Hmm. Assuming you copy and pasted it over, did you remember to compile before saving?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 07, 2011, 06:05:42 PM

Yup, multiple times.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 06:10:07 PM

And you're dead sure that you tagged your sectors right?
Odd. I never had any issues when I moved over Metal Man Scripts for my own map.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 07, 2011, 06:12:24 PM

Definitely. Are you sure there's not some kind of other requirement? I'll play around with it, try and get it working.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on January 07, 2011, 06:31:33 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how to get a custom music to play for the "5 kills left" part.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 06:34:22 PM

YD: Nope, I was just toying about with my own map. Everything has been working fine with that I just said. I honestly have no idea what happened with you.

TBR: That's an ACS script inside the megaman .pk3 itself.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on January 07, 2011, 06:42:51 PM

That's not very mapmaker friendly!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 07, 2011, 06:47:49 PM

Are you joking? Would you rather have Cutty copy and paste the same coding in EVERY SINGLE map. Then we would have to copy and paste the same scripts into EVERY SINGLE map we make? You think it's not mapping friendly, but putting common scripts that are used all over the place is more convenient globally in the pk3 itself, as opposed to the map.
So yes, it actually is map maker friendly. :geek:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TheBladeRoden on January 07, 2011, 06:49:04 PM

But now I can't have my custom 5 Kills Left music

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Myroc on January 07, 2011, 09:26:41 PM

You can use a script for the map itself, it will override the normal boss music.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on January 08, 2011, 02:45:27 AM

I know this question sounds noobish but...

How do you look at individual maps from Doom2 included in MM8BDM?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 08, 2011, 02:50:58 AM

...Those aren't maps from Doom2, those are Skulltag maps. Which need to be extracted from the skulltag.pk3

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on January 08, 2011, 02:54:35 AM

How do I do that?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Muzaru on January 08, 2011, 05:32:16 AM

I have a feeling that this is posted somewhere but...
How do you add music to a map...?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on January 08, 2011, 06:23:09 AM

Quote from: "MagnetMan497"

How do I do that?

A .pk3 is the same as a .zip. Just with a different name.

Basicly you're asking "How do I extract from a zip?"

Rename the extention to .zip then open it up and take the bits you want.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on January 08, 2011, 04:45:25 PM

Ok, thanks.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Muzaru on January 09, 2011, 02:33:35 AM

Soo... Nothing about the music?
Thats "aww" worthy...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Korby on January 09, 2011, 04:08:14 AM

It's been answered fifty billion times. Use the search button, or better yet, check ZDoom wiki/Another stagewad.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Muzaru on January 09, 2011, 08:01:50 PM

That didn't help as much as I hoped... Guess I'm just stupid...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Jennifer on January 12, 2011, 01:23:42 AM

Just Asking...How do you make the bridges,Like the ones at MM6MRX?(not the item,I mean the textures and shiz)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: HellHawkX on January 14, 2011, 09:07:33 PM

I dont get it, when i make new map for MM8BDM it gives me an error! it says

"Unable to load resources from location "G:GamesMegaManMegaman8BITMM8BDM-v1c.pk3". Please make sure the location is accessible and not in use by another program. The resources will now be loaded with this location excluded. You may reload the resources to try again.
ArgumentException when creating data reader: 1 is not a supported code page.
Parameter name: codepage)"

I runned it as administrator, but still nothing! help please!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 14, 2011, 10:49:54 PM

You pasted the code correctly? i think you pasted it incorrectly.
See the first page for the code. Make sure to copy it correctly this time.

If the problem persist, please change the directory of the game. It solves some of the problems in doom builder

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: HellHawkX on January 15, 2011, 10:55:12 AM

Quote from: "Galaxy"

You pasted the code correctly? i think you pasted it incorrectly.
See the first page for the code. Make sure to copy it correctly this time.

If the problem persist, please change the directory of the game. It solves some of the problems in doom builder

Well i have it in my own Disk (G:) so it shouldn't be like that, but i will still give it a try, and i followed everything and did it correctly

Well i had 2 doom builders, i deleted second one tryed everything, still nothing

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Galaxy Sisbro on January 15, 2011, 09:35:25 PM

MMM that is strange. Try to uninstall the 2 doom builders on the program list, and re-download doom builder 2. What system are you using?
And if the problem is still there, then download doom builder from another page, or download an older version. Try to change the directory of the game to a simply one, like "C:MM8BIT" or "C:GamesMM8BIT". Also Re-start the tutorial of the first page.

This is my directory of the game
"C:GalaxyMega Man 8 Bit DeathmatchMM8BDM-v1c.pk3"

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 21, 2011, 05:57:55 PM

How do I make a bridge? Obviously mid-textures and bridge things but the changes to the offsets don't seem to occur, the pieces are just flying in midair.

How does Mike do it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on January 22, 2011, 01:05:00 PM

^Open up Edge of the Dam and see how it's done.

How do I make curved lines for a sector?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Ivory on January 22, 2011, 08:13:51 PM

Nope. It's actually just Mid Textures that are reposition and the set line special flags "32"

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Max on January 22, 2011, 09:15:39 PM

Meh, figures. It's measured oddly, in Doom Builder the textures are in the floor but in MM8BDM it's right where I need it.

Bah.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on January 22, 2011, 09:22:54 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Meh, figures. It's measured oddly, in Doom Builder the textures are in the floor but in MM8BDM it's right where I need it.

Bah.

Make sure you have the lines set to "lower unpegged". Also yeah, Doombuilder is a little glitchy.. put the line to where you want it then double the offset for it to work ingame.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: MagnetMan497 on January 30, 2011, 06:16:13 PM

Ok, i know this sounds stupid but, how do i change height of places in maps?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Uscdrew on February 02, 2011, 08:54:10 PM

I noticed that Doom Builder 2 requires Pixel Shader 2.0

Seeing as my computer is about 4 years old, I don't even have 1.1

Would I still be able to use Doom Builder 2?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on February 03, 2011, 12:25:07 AM

Quote from: "Uscdrew"

I noticed that Doom Builder 2 requires Pixel Shader 2.0

Seeing as my computer is about 4 years old, I don't even have 1.1

Would I still be able to use Doom Builder 2?

I think it's time to upgrade... Do you use a desktop PC or a laptop?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on February 09, 2011, 09:08:30 PM

how do u add music to your custom maps
im trying to do this for the contest.
HELP :(

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on February 09, 2011, 09:52:58 PM

I'm not even going to tell you how. I'm just going to say: use the Search bar.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on February 10, 2011, 03:34:03 PM

I did. i cant find anything about adding music into your stage.
Just how to change music in the game. :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: CHAOS_FANTAZY on February 10, 2011, 09:39:34 PM

Doom, you need a serious attitude change. We're doing what any sane person would do: we're asking the guy that knows what he's talking about--we can see that because of the medals you have. If you're going to continue to act like this, then maybe these medals really are useless.

Also, Gyro, you've posted asking this before. Here was one of the responses it got:

Quote from: "Alucard"

FOR MUSIC:
MAPINFO:

MUSIC: put in music name there. GOOD DAY SIR.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: TERRORsphere on February 11, 2011, 05:34:42 AM

Quote from: "CHAOS_FANTAZY"

Doom, you need a serious attitude change.
Quote from: "Alucard"
FOR MUSIC:
MAPINFO:

MUSIC: put in music name there. GOOD DAY SIR.

~~Fine, I'll make a topic to address people to.~~

Done.
http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2058

Title: Well FECK.
Post by: Hallan Parva on February 24, 2011, 11:05:37 PM

Well feck.

I install Doom Builder onto a flash drive where it's SUPPOSED to run portably...

Quote from: "SmashBroPlusB"

Really dumb question.

I was wondering if Doom Builder 2 was portable; that is, it doesn't require any device drivers or anything to run.

Thanks in advance.

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

I can't remember if it requires any extra dlls or windows updates. I shouldn't think so though.

But then THIS happened

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh355/smashbroplusb/feck.png)

What do I do? I want to make maps dammit :ugeek:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Dialer Bourne on March 22, 2011, 10:38:26 PM

I have a question, how do you add water to stages?

Quote from: "MagnetMan497"

Ok, i know this sounds stupid but, how do i change height of places in maps?

And I wanna know that to.

=P

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: arkman on March 22, 2011, 11:14:06 PM

there is a topic around somewhere with a demonstration map for the water effect.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920 (http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920)
http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920

As for the changing heights, just make a sector within another sector and adjust the floor hieght.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Dialer Bourne on March 23, 2011, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: "arkman"

there is a topic around somewhere with a demonstration map for the water effect.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920 (http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920)
http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920

Thanks!

Quote from: "arkman"

As for the changing heights, just make a sector within another sector and adjust the floor hieght.

And ya I figured that out now. Was actually coming to the page to edit that out xD

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2011, 08:32:34 PM

How do you make a wall :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: arkman on April 28, 2011, 09:22:57 PM

As in, A wall that is in the middle of a sector? Just make a new lindef and set the flag to block everything. This will make a paper thin wall.

A better looking way would be to make a new sector with the floor height raised to the ceiling.

If you are just trying to make rooms, use the sectors tool instead of the lindef one.
it is just easier for the most part.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2011, 11:44:47 PM

How can you make elevated areas. :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2011, 11:58:50 PM

How can you make teleporters teleport you to where ever.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2011, 12:09:58 AM

and how can you put teleporters see able.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on May 05, 2011, 09:43:25 PM

Man, I got a problem. I can't open and test my maps because I need Doom. Any help?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TERRORsphere on May 16, 2011, 09:50:27 AM

Quote from: "Magnet Dood"

Man, I got a problem. I can't open and test my maps because I need Doom. Any help?

The simplest solution would be to get FreeDoom if you're having trouble using the Megagame Iwad. Or you could rename Megagame.wad to Doom2.wad.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on May 16, 2011, 10:22:23 PM

question:if your using a music thats not in mm8bdm, how do u make it play?

EDIT:how do u import your mapinfo to your maps?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: MagnetMan497 on May 16, 2011, 11:28:05 PM

Include the music's code and .wav file in the PK3, and you should be all set.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on May 16, 2011, 11:40:40 PM

Quote from: "MagnetMan497"

Include the music's code and .wav file in the PK3, and you should be all set.

thnx!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TERRORsphere on May 17, 2011, 03:42:07 PM

Quote from: "omegazerox12"

Quote from: "MagnetMan497"
Include the music's code and .wav file in the PK3, and you should be all set.

thnx!

Make sure it's in a folder called "Music".

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on May 20, 2011, 08:19:37 PM

problem solved

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on June 24, 2011, 09:32:36 AM

Do i need to have doom 2 to test maps. if not. What do i need to do to test my maps other then skulltag.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Pikmin747 on July 05, 2011, 07:04:19 PM

how do you make elevated areas

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: WheelieCarbonate on July 05, 2011, 07:52:13 PM

You do.
Read Flanny's map making guide.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on July 09, 2011, 05:08:06 PM

how do i do the gemeni man switching sectors thing?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Trollman on August 02, 2011, 05:03:48 PM

Quote from: "omegazerox12"

how do i do the gemeni man switching sectors thing?

I don't get you, animated textures you mean?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on August 03, 2011, 09:39:38 PM

no, i meant when u go down that hole, ur in a different section.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Red on August 03, 2011, 09:52:16 PM

I'm pretty sure you mean Crystal Man, not Gemini Man.

Well then, if you are speaking about Crystal man...
1) make a hole
2) place a teleport on it
3)place the teleport destination
4)ta da

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on August 04, 2011, 11:14:00 PM

teleport destination fails me.;.;.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: WheelieCarbonate on August 04, 2011, 11:16:43 PM

Yeah,I can't make a teleporter for the life of me either.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: xColdxFusionx on August 05, 2011, 02:26:33 PM

If you're looking for a different example, try looking at the process I used here (http://www.mediafire.com/?kr92r9ljiol9g2v).
I pretty much just copy-pasted Crystalman's example, though.

...Christ, this map is old.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: OZX on August 06, 2011, 02:26:39 PM

i tried it and it seems to work and ill pm my thoughts on it.srry for the late reply.:/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 03, 2011, 04:01:52 AM

How do you get spikes to kill on contact? When I tested it, I could pet them.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Gummywormz on September 03, 2011, 04:14:19 AM

You have to put a death pit below it. All spikes (except spineys/ bubbleman's) are for decorative use and don't actually damage you..

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 03, 2011, 02:28:42 PM

Thx

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Pikmin747 on September 03, 2011, 03:00:50 PM

Wut, I cant make a deathpit

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 03, 2011, 03:07:35 PM

make the sector's special instant death

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 05, 2011, 12:51:31 AM

How do you make a skybox?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Mendez on September 05, 2011, 12:53:50 AM

Here's your answer. (http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1673)
Going to the help & editing section of this forum is a real lifesaver sometimes.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Tesseractal on September 08, 2011, 09:44:32 PM

Can DB2 be used on OSX/Macs successfully? I'd wager it can be done with Wineskin, I'm curious if anyone's got it up.

(Slade on the other hand I would guess is impossible, but I can do without that)

edit: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... &iId=12221 (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12221)

Consensus seems to be "no", but figure I'd try here anyway. :?

edit: Apparently there's a mac editor called "Hellmaker". After downloading it and attempting to open the hqx, I get this message:

"Archive Utility

Unable to expand "Hellmaker v1.1 3.sit" - Stuffit archives not supported."

It tries to expand two .sit files (like the one listed above) but displays that message. Opening either .sit file reveals garbage text.

Bleh, the search continues.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 09, 2011, 08:53:22 PM

Quote from: "Bluebrawl"

Here's your answer. (http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1673)
Going to the help & editing section of this forum is a real lifesaver sometimes.

K thx

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on September 18, 2011, 07:00:22 PM

How on earth do you get gutslifts to work? I tried to put a GUTWIRE linedef, but I guess that didn't work because I can't get it of the ground. So my questions are:
1.)How do you get a gutslift to work?
2.)How do you get them off the ground?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Trollman on September 18, 2011, 07:04:15 PM

Quote from: "Ice-IX"

Can DB2 be used on OSX/Macs successfully? I'd wager it can be done with Wineskin, I'm curious if anyone's got it up.

(Slade on the other hand I would guess is impossible, but I can do without that)

edit: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... &iId=12221 (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12221)

Consensus seems to be "no", but figure I'd try here anyway. :?

edit: Apparently there's a mac editor called "Hellmaker". After downloading it and attempting to open the hqx, I get this message:

"Archive Utility

Unable to expand "Hellmaker v1.1 3.sit" - Stuffit archives not supported."

It tries to expand two .sit files (like the one listed above) but displays that message. Opening either .sit file reveals garbage text.

Bleh, the search continues.

There is also a map editor called Yadex, not an option for me though.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: MasterXman on September 25, 2011, 04:42:47 AM

Yep. My doom Builder isn't doing wrok because it isn't saving the game configureations. How the hell am I going to make the Battle Network 3 Battle Map for SmashBroPlusB? Yes. That is correct. I'm contributing to someone's stuff...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: ?Tsan? on December 04, 2011, 07:32:55 PM

How to you make textures lighter?
I have the DARFLR2 texture on some walls, and I can't seem to get the texture to be as light like in the original Darkman stage. The same problem happens with the texture WODMGRS3.
Although it appears perfectly fine in Visual Mode, everytime I go and test the map all I see is a darker version of the texture.
(And yes, I did set it to 255 light)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on December 13, 2011, 12:12:14 AM

i download doom builder 2 (both the setup and installer) and i open it, but it doesnt open. instead a message pops up saying that it has encountered a problem, and needs to close. So, in short, i cant get into doom builder. any help? ive reinstalled multiple times to attempt to fix this, but no luck.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: AquaRaider64 on January 03, 2012, 06:02:44 AM

I've got a problem with making my new level.

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1390/glitchylevel2.th.png)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2629/glitchylevel.th.png)

The tiny bit of wall hanging off the roof in the pictures is supposed to reach all the way to the floor, but it doesn't. Any ideas how to fix this?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Gummywormz on January 03, 2012, 06:14:56 AM

It would be easier to help you if your screenshots weren't microscopic...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: AquaRaider64 on January 03, 2012, 06:33:33 AM

Sorry, I can't resize it. :( The problem described is circled if it helps.

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2629/glitchylevel.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/glitchylevel.png/)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Gummywormz on January 03, 2012, 06:45:44 AM

You need to set the ceiling and floor height of the sector to the same number.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: AquaRaider64 on January 03, 2012, 06:52:30 AM

That gave me an idea, and I figured out. Thanks!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: HD_ on January 16, 2012, 01:28:54 AM

Okay, something's wrong here:

I wanted to edit the weapon layout of MM1CUT, putting Gravity Hold and Wind Storm in place of the normal weapons. However, I tried changing the map name and this happened:

No music
When I used changemap (not testing in doom builder) the game thought it was a credits sequence.

Help?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on January 16, 2012, 01:51:56 AM

Oh, wow, you're actually doing that?

Oh lord, that'll be like the best map pack ever.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: HD_ on January 16, 2012, 03:00:04 AM

You really thought that was a joke topic?!

Teehee, of course it will be a mappack. I just need the music and unplayability issues solved.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on January 16, 2012, 03:11:12 AM

No, I meant you were actually going to put Wind Storm and Gravity Hold in every map.

This will be the greatest mode in the history of modes in mode history

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on February 22, 2012, 01:50:39 AM

Bump because I'm rather stumped.

How in the world do you make ladders? Is there a special code or something for them?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on February 22, 2012, 02:08:24 AM

Linedef > check in "repeatable action" > activate action 128 which is "Thrust Thing Z" and set force to 15.

Then viola, working ladders.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on February 22, 2012, 02:27:32 AM

I feel like such a stupid person

Thanks!

Next Question: How do you make bridges? See, I'm probably going to try making a map for the DOS expansion (perhaps a few others) so I need to learn some basic things.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on February 22, 2012, 04:10:27 AM

:L..

use this video:

(click to show/hide)

Fun Fact: the first tutorial i ever watched.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on February 22, 2012, 04:15:40 AM

Quote from: "xxkirbysonicxx1"

Yep. My doom Builder isn't doing wrok because it isn't saving the game configureations. How the hell am I going to make the Battle Network 3 Battle Map for SmashBroPlusB? Yes. That is correct. I'm contributing to someone's stuff...

I realize this is a double post. Sorry.

Doom Builder isn't working for you? what version is it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Magnet Dood on February 23, 2012, 11:38:33 PM

two things- one, the ladders didn't work.

Two... how do you make them 3D floors?

EDIT: Never mind, first problem fixed.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on February 24, 2012, 12:01:46 AM

Quote from: "Star Dood"

two things- one, the ladders didn't work.

Two... how do you make them 3D floors?

EDIT: Never mind, first problem fixed.

Hm, did you remember to check "repeatable action"? If you don't it will only do the action once. Also make sure it is set to trigger to "Player Bumps" and not "Player walks over."

As for 3D floors, looking at what Lego did to Torch's map for it, its actually really easy.

Set an area outside the map at the elevation the 3D floor will be (likely square or however the shape will be) and put the textures in there, then set it to a tag. All areas with that tag will have a floor at that height. There may be more to it, take a look at a map with them if you need to.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on February 25, 2012, 12:38:50 AM

you also need to download a patch of some sorts so it can do 3d floors, if im not mistaken

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheDoc on February 25, 2012, 01:28:13 AM

Quote from: "Rozark"

you also need to download a patch of some sorts so it can do 3d floors, if im not mistaken

I have Doom Builder 2 and I don't recall a patch...but anyways

make a sector off to the side (width doesn't matter). Then, go to the sector you want the 3D floor on and set that to a tag #. Go back to your off-side sector and set any of the linedefs to 160 (Sector 3D floor). Tag it with the tag mentioned earlier, set the type to "Solid", set the alpha to 255, and set the linedef texture to what ever you want the side textures of your platform to be. Then, set the ceiling texture to whatever you want the top of the platform to be and vice versa for the bottom. Lastly, the height of the floor of the sector will determine the height of the bottom of your platform will be. The ceiling of the sector is the height of the top of your platform. I think that's all.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on February 27, 2012, 04:05:21 AM

I made a small map titled "RampsBridges3DFloors." Its a tiny little map for use in the Builder to get a look at all three in use in a small space for people who want to just get a quick reference for them.
http://www.mediafire.com/?srbqlwd5n3a5rua

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on February 27, 2012, 04:16:30 AM

could you make me one that shows low gravity in a sector, but only in an area? (like under the lake, not above it)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on February 27, 2012, 04:45:44 AM

Quote from: "Rozark"

could you make me one that shows low gravity in a sector, but only in an area? (like under the lake, not above it)

Sadly I don't even know how to make a lake you can go into, I tried but I wasn't able to pull it off. If I figure it out I'll do, maybe even just edit it into this map.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on March 06, 2012, 09:56:15 PM

Figured out low gravity under water, here is what you put into the script straight out of Ice Man's stage and tested in one of my own. Replace all "<>"s with what is in the <>, also remove the < and >

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on March 11, 2012, 07:56:07 AM

could someone post the script for the music and gravity as one? im aware of how they both work, but how they work together? is it script 1, 2, 3 etc or something? a provided example would really help..

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on March 19, 2012, 10:09:59 AM

Ok. So I'v been trying to make some more maps for the DRSG Master Pack but for some reason. Doom builder wont load up anything other then megagame.wad and MM8BDMv2c.pk3. I cant any of the stuff I need to make my maps now. Can someone please help?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Knux on March 20, 2012, 07:01:45 AM

Before opening a map, go to the settings and delete the file paths, then place them again. It's what I did when this happened to me and it worked.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on March 20, 2012, 09:00:30 PM

Tried it. It didnt work, I'v tried changing the wad's location, making copies, and redownloading doom builder. It just doesent seem to work.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Knux on March 21, 2012, 09:39:32 PM

Does it cough up an error message? If so, what is it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on March 22, 2012, 12:07:12 AM

it sounds like what happened to my first doom builder download, except that it couldnt save maps >.<

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Duora Super Gyro on March 22, 2012, 12:19:41 AM

Yes. It says that it is unable to load the resources from the wad. And to make sure the location is accesible( witch it is) and that it is not in use by any other program.

Do you think it has anything to do with me uploading the wad online?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on March 22, 2012, 04:38:06 PM

how would you rotate/flip textures?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on March 22, 2012, 05:04:33 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

how would you rotate/flip textures?

Script # OPEN
{
Sector_SetRotation (, , 0);
}

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on March 22, 2012, 08:00:26 PM

yay more scripting >_>

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on March 22, 2012, 08:07:24 PM

Thats the whole script for it. I learned it from looking at Wood's map.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on March 28, 2012, 12:17:45 AM

how would i make a crusher? (like dustman's)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on March 28, 2012, 01:06:36 AM

Quote from: "Rozark"

how would i make a crusher? (like dustman's)

Code: [Select]

script # OPEN
{
Ceiling_CrushAndRaise(<TAG>, 23, 256, 2);
}

Thats exactly how Dust has it, the 23 is the speed of the crusher. It can go in the same script open with sector damage.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on April 12, 2012, 08:40:36 PM

Ok, I'm making a simple map using Gemini man's textures, I'm attempting to get water in (which I'm still having a hard time with the low grav underwater) so I pulled the entire ACS script from Gemini's map, but it isn't adding the low grav to my map. I'm at a lose at how to add underwater low grav to maps.

Anyone think they can lend me a hand?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 06, 2012, 08:17:23 PM

I need help. I set it up EXACTLY like yours, but when I make a new map, it crashed. This happens every time, and I think I did it 4 times.

The error reads:

(click to show/hide)

I use windows XP, I dunno what ANY of this needs, and I want to make a custom map! So the main question is HOW DO I GET THIS FIXED? :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 06, 2012, 08:46:47 PM

Explain what you copied for yourself, and abit more in depth in your story. THEN I might be able to help.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 06, 2012, 09:03:50 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

Explain what you copied for yourself, and abit more in depth in your story. THEN I might be able to help.

That was all that could be copied; I have no idea what it means.

The issue is, I did everything correctly. I set it up, but once I press that make map button; look. It's gone. It crashes and I am forced to exit. I have done this five times now, and i'm getting annoyed.

Help? :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 06, 2012, 09:21:40 PM

Youre still not answering my question. Let me try to make myself clearer. What are you EXACTLY doing. I don't want the results, I want what's causing this.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 06, 2012, 09:33:28 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

Youre still not answering my question. Let me try to make myself clearer. What are you EXACTLY doing. I don't want the results, I want what's causing this.

I open doom builder, I go to the came config, then I add the hexen resources (EXACT) and then I click "New Map", and then I select doom with hexen, name the world, then I make it, and then it will crash it and I repeat the process.

THAT IS ALL THAT IS DONE IN THE INSTRUCTIONS AND IT WORKS, BUT WHEN I DO IT EXACTLY, I GET AN ERROR AND IT CRASHES? I need a fix. :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 06, 2012, 09:37:07 PM

sounds like what happened to my doom builder before i got my "special" version. Except, then, noone really tried to help, and I just gave up. Well, what version is it?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 06, 2012, 10:11:06 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

sounds like what happened to my doom builder before i got my "special" version. Except, then, noone really tried to help, and I just gave up. Well, what version is it?

Doom Builder 2.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 06, 2012, 10:31:16 PM

~~-facepalm-~~Once again, I'll have to clarify myself.
What version/setup of Doom Builder 2 did you download?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 06, 2012, 10:44:16 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

~~-facepalm-~~Once again, I'll have to clarify myself.
What version/setup of Doom Builder 2 did you download?

I got the one where the post linked; and I got the one with the big text. (AKA I got 2.1.1.1466)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 07, 2012, 01:25:02 AM

Finally:
The year your computer was made in, and have you updated your drivers.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 07, 2012, 12:06:35 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

Finally:
The year your computer was made in, and have you updated your drivers.

...I actually have no fcking idea... My computer was XP updated from windows 2000 or 2003 so...

I ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY THING CALLED A CLUE.

(I think i'll need to use our newer family computer (Windows 7) OR my near dead computer (Also Windows 7))

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 07, 2012, 07:28:41 PM

well, for the time being, make sure you have the requirements listed to use DB2.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: RedMettaur16 on May 07, 2012, 09:36:20 PM

Quote from: "Rozark"

well, for the time being, make sure you have the requirements listed to use DB2.

I do, but...

...Wait a sec; on my more broken windows 7, my MM8BDM is V1. As in the one WITHOUT MM7. And THAT works fine, no issues. But on my XP gaming/internet PC, it is V2. As in the one WITH MM7. But THAT one does NOT work fine, because it crashes when I load it.

I think that this tutorial is NOT updated for the MM7 update, so that might be why this isn't working, and therefore, this tutorial needs to be updated.

Methinks. Anyone else think this? :?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rozark on May 09, 2012, 01:50:39 AM

I did this tutorial when V2 was out. It worked perfectly fine. Try reinstalling DB2, and be sure to have followed the directions VERY CAREFULLY. (including that smaller font)

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: GameGuyAnon0mous on June 05, 2012, 05:10:32 AM

Yay! :mrgreen:
I made my first (crappy) DM map!
But the bots keep falling into the pits :(

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Mendez on June 05, 2012, 05:20:30 AM

Click each linedef that the bots keep falling off from, right-click, and check the box labeled "block monsters". Hit OK, and hopefully your bots don't die anymore.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: GameGuyAnon0mous on June 06, 2012, 07:16:56 PM

Quote from: "Bluebrawl"

Click each linedef that the bots keep falling off from, right-click, and check the box labeled "block monsters". Hit OK, and hopefully your bots don't die anymore.

Thanks.

Also, how do you make floating platforms (like the wire bridges in the "Edge of the Dam" stage)?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: fortegigasgospel on June 06, 2012, 09:22:36 PM

Quote from: "GameGuyAnon0mous"

Quote from: "Bluebrawl"
Click each linedef that the bots keep falling off from, right-click, and check the box labeled "block monsters". Hit OK, and hopefully your bots don't die anymore.
Thanks.

Also, how do you make floating platforms (like the wire bridges in the "Edge of the Dam" stage)?

3 ways.
Bridge actors and offset textures (you will need to make linedefs)
3D textures on offsets (basically the same thing without the bridge actor)
3D floors by making a sector off the map at the elevation you want the floor and giving one of the linedefs a "3D floor" action, set the tag, and create a sector using the tag where you want it.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: SuperBass on July 11, 2012, 10:07:58 PM

I need some help.Whenever I try to make a new map,it gives me an error message that says"Unable to initialize the Direct3D video device.Another application may have taken exclusive mode on this device or the device does not support Direct3D at all."It wont even let me start to make a new map. :cry:

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: UltimateChimichanga on August 19, 2012, 03:47:25 PM

There's 3 things, should I download them all or just one?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Laggy Blazko on August 19, 2012, 05:39:43 PM

Just Doom Builder 2.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: D25 on September 25, 2012, 03:04:22 AM

Awesome. Though I suck at everything, I was able to make a tiny room with a single weapon in it. Not that anyone cares...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: gamerman on January 21, 2013, 04:08:35 PM

I have never been able to get this work. Anytime i try to do something it just gives me errors. Help please?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Giantmega on February 01, 2013, 06:44:07 PM

Well, Im Gonna Try Mapping

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: FTX6004 on February 01, 2013, 07:40:01 PM

I wish i could make maps but is i can only get doom builder 2 in my other computer.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: MagnetMan497 on March 28, 2013, 11:36:38 PM

Now that we're on Zandronum rather than ST, how can I define that?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Jakeinator on March 29, 2013, 05:15:30 AM

I just use the same thing and it works fine.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Colonel ServBot on April 01, 2013, 05:07:02 AM

Wait... I'm still confused, is there a thread that explains how to use doombuilder? Like textures and everything? I'm trying to science with the everything and I have no idea where to go, and what to do.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: COMET on July 11, 2013, 09:59:38 AM

Unable to load resources from location "D:ROCK MAN DEATH MATCHMM8BDM-v3a.pk3". Please make sure the location is accessible and not in use by another program. The resources will now be loaded with this location excluded. You may reload the resources to try again.
IOException when creating data reader: Multiple files with the same filename in the same directory are not allowed. See: "musics.wad"

How to deal with this?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Lagman on August 25, 2013, 11:42:54 PM

Execution could not continue.

Script error, "MM8BDM-v3B.pk3:actors/player/megaman.txt line 61:
Invalid state parameter a_scalevelocity

DAFUQ DOES THIS MEAN

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Beed28 on August 25, 2013, 11:45:33 PM

Make sure the chosen engine in Doom Builder 2 is Zandronum and not Skulltag.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Lagman on August 25, 2013, 11:48:19 PM

oh...thanks :/

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Dark_Chaos on September 02, 2013, 08:42:57 PM

i have the latest version of megaman 8-bit deathmatch and skulltag.EXE is non existent, i cant find it. halp?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: ZeStopper on September 02, 2013, 08:44:07 PM

Yeah, you need to use Zandorum.EXE (not Skulltag) that came with the game.
Skulltag was for the old-as-fart versions.

Somebody update dem tutorials.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Dark_Chaos on September 02, 2013, 08:57:09 PM

Quote from: "ThePlayer"

Yeah, you need to use Zandorum.EXE (not Skulltag) that came with the game.
Skulltag was for the old-as-fart versions.

Somebody update dem tutorials.

i agree someone should update the tutorial. but i have another problem. when i try to test my map it loads to a certain point then says "things not found in Drknssouter (the name of my stage)

what do?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: PeanutTechno on February 24, 2014, 01:28:18 AM

"Unable to load resources from location. Please make sure the location is accessible and not in use by another program. The resources will now be loaded with this location excluded. You may reload the resources to try again.
NotSupportedException when creating data reader: Compression method not supported"

I think it's telling me it's "unable" to load the skulltag thing...and the elements for MM8BDM aren't appearing (not even the 'decors' option. I'm using v2c of MM8BDM. How do I fix this?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Zard1084 on February 24, 2014, 01:30:42 AM

Quote from: "PeanutTechno"

I'm using v2c of MM8BDM.

There is your problem you need to update to v3b. V2c is a outdated version

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: PotatoStrike on March 20, 2014, 08:01:19 PM

Cut Man Mike, can you make a new tutorial for expert things in DB2 you uses for MM8BDM?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Rock on April 07, 2014, 05:22:36 PM

Ack. Won't let me load up the map. It says that the map is empty. The answer might be obivious, but i'm still new too this thing. Help?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: William0918 on June 09, 2014, 06:13:36 PM

Instead of Skulltag for test program (for people who don't have Doom), use MM8BDM.exe.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: arkman on December 20, 2014, 07:50:45 AM

any chance of getting a tutorial for slade3 now that the map editor has been added?

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Jonnyloko280 on May 25, 2015, 05:24:45 PM

I Can't Build Slopes. Sonemone Help Me!!!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: Zard1084 on May 26, 2015, 07:06:18 AM

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=9763 (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=9763) read it! it will help you with your issue and most of your future ones too...

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making m
Post by: TheRealRoyale on June 29, 2016, 11:18:12 PM

How do i make modded maps? thx!

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: No Name on July 02, 2020, 11:52:20 PM

I built my map but whenever i play it it sets the game mode to cooperative

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Korby on July 03, 2020, 01:12:08 AM

Make sure to add deathmatch starts to your map.

Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Getting started with Doom Builder 2 (making maps)
Post by: Rozark on July 03, 2020, 09:42:48 PM

Quote from: No Name on July 02, 2020, 11:52:20 PM

I built my map but whenever i play it it sets the game mode to cooperative

This topic is outdated. For any future queries, please refer to the current version of the map tutorial here: https://cutstuff.net/forum/index.php?topic=9763.msg318454#msg318454

As for your problem, when setting up custom parameters in your resources tab, make sure that these are the parameters:
-iwad "megagame.wad" -skill "4" -file "%AP" "%F" +map %L %NM -deathmatch
See that -deathmatch at the end? That will make sure that the mode you test your map in will be deathmatch. By default, it goes to Co-op.

If you have any further questions, please ask.

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