[Game Mode] Bot Apocalypse

[SickSadWorld]

the possibility of adding a Blacklist System.

What's that?
After being selected as bot leader, that player cannot be selected again for the next 3 rounds (that number can be changed by server command).
Why blacklist might be a good idea?
Sometimes Player 1 is always selected as bot leader and the poor Player 2 hasn't been selected since he joined the server
Which mod appies this?
Who Dun It. To prevent a player is selected as murderer several times (sadly WDI is closed code).

That's a good idea. Within the context of 'random selection' there always exist the probability, however small, of selecting the same person multiple times in a row. I know how WDI avoids this conceptually and the concept I arrived at independently is really similar but also takes what they do a step further. It isn't in the latest release posted because I need to stress test its stability.

Also in the queue for the next version are

Improved single player support
 Improved bot AI

I'd like to keep the focus of the core game that's there now. The testers and I have been pretty pleased at the gameplay of the latest release here. Feel free to continue to post suggestions here with the core gameplay focus in mind, though.

[SaviorSword]

Small suggestion, at the moment the only bots that this mod picks are just a few but not all the bots. Ya should add all of them into the list, so that if this and (KY/YD) classes are ever combined, we can see all the classes used instead of the select few bots/"class".

[SickSadWorld]

Small suggestion, at the moment the only bots that this mod picks are just a few but not all the bots. Ya should add all of them into the list, so that if this and (KY/YD) classes are ever combined, we can see all the classes used instead of the select few bots/"class".

Yeah, ok that's reasonable. Having classes associated with bots makes this somewhat important.

The one thing I might take care to do is making sure not to include things like Megaman in the bot list. Megaman, Protoman, Roll and maybe some others kinda doesn't make sense to have "going rogue". The robot masters definitely though. Having said that, Roll is in there now but not for any specific purpose; just to show some contrast/ humor in the bot choices. Can someone provide some "in-universe" explanation to include Megaman et. al in the bot army possibility list? I'm open to it, I just can't think of how it would make sense myself.

Maybe we can open a discussion on skin changing. In a much earlier version I had a method to change skin on the bot leader to match the bot army; one of the tactical elements that I enjoyed playing this with real people was the camouflage element. I have yet to consider a method to store what the skin currently is to reset to later. The current algorithm I have on the shelf allows you to change the skin, but not "change back" to what it was. As such, I decided not to go with it but I'm open to be persuaded to add this back in.

[Messatsu]

Can someone provide some "in-universe" explanation to include Megaman et. al in the bot army possibility list?

I can't think of an in-universe reason to fight 15 Metal men or Centaur men so....um.....yea.

[Korby]

Same reason there were Gutsman clones in the first game.

Also, "Megaman?" could be a viable explanation, or even Roboenza.

[Copy Robot]

Best explanation:
Copy Robots   since Powered Up seems to show Wily has multiple of them
The end.

[Tesseractal]

Although Sick provides an "explanation" from a sort of theatrical view, I prevent a more pragmatic one: The bot stats for Mega Man, Roll, etc. are rather poor in comparison to the rest of the bots. (House robots don't have good combat skills, I guess.) If those bots are included it'll put the leader at a natural disadvantage.

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Alternative explanation: Bob!

[SickSadWorld]

bump for v2c

[HD_]

So wait, was the Bot AI improved or not?

If it is, I'd play it just for that.

/me downloads

[xColdxFusionx]

So wait, was the Bot AI improved or not?

If it is, I'd play it just for that.

/me downloads

Sounds like the "improved AI" is more for managing weapons. Bots will still be dumb as bricks movement/attack-wise.

And this may never change, since it's pretty much impossible to make a botscript due to the Skulltag dev team losing all their bot stuff.

[SickSadWorld]

Updated file hosting with Dogsoft mirror (indexable by wadseeker)

Back up and running!

[ChaoticChao]

Would this work with classes? If so, that would be a struggle

[xColdxFusionx]

I believe it does; it summons pretty much any bot that doesn't have a space in its name (iirc), so Classes Bot Apoc should work.

I know Mess is/was working on CSCC Bot Apocalypse; now THAT will be a sight to see.