Whoa stop right there bucko. Don't you see this possibly offending certain users? For example, ones that aren't on the list or ones that are low on the list?
No. For people who are on the list: Being included as a gym leader is supposed to be an
honor, isn't it? Who could be so ungrateful as to be "offended" by being included on a list of skilled players?
For people who aren't: I don't suppose there's actually a large number of people who care about how they're ranked skill-wise
and about being in this game. All of them could easily fit on the list. That's why the list I presented I did so only as an example. I knew that if that idea were used, the list would be picked by insecure developers who couldn't bear accepting the idea they weren't the most skilled players at this game. Thus, they could just make a list of themselves. Presto, flame war averted!
It's a community game, there's no need for any sort of progression in terms of the actual people used. If anything, all it would do is start a flame war on who deserves what spot most.
Does being a community game also mean it needs to have baseless self-fanservice? Because that's all it is (along with other "Community" projects). The idea that it "needs" anything is rather lacking. It doesn't
need to be anything more than an incinerated agglomeration of canine excrement passing as a game, but you wouldn't want that, would you? Because when you use the "community" label to justify things such as this, you'll end up with a lot of people playing a game that lacks polish and coherence. A natural progression is just one of many things that could go into the game to make it feel like a "real" game, and not a community one. But it doesn't need that, does it? The community is the lowest common denominator, after all.
Because I'm sure everyone outside of the MM8 Expansion would love that they don't even get a chance to show up in this game [/sarcasm] Not to mention that that isn't even the whole team.[/b]
No, because people outside the expansion would know the
reason they weren't included in the gym leaders: they weren't part of the expansion. As of now, the current list is done out of "respect" for a person, which is a totally meaningless description which lacks any consistency. Does anyone
really respect people like Roc's Creation? Doubtful. The current system leaves the most opportunity for unnamed persons to become offended, yet even so, they appear to be not present, so improving it wouldn't have any ill effects!
And of course, the list is only for the
gym leaders. Anyone can show up "in the game"; the TC said it himself. All they have to do is PM him. The possibility of someone being excluded is impossible. And while no, that isn't the whole MM8 team, you'll notice I divided them into categories. It IS all the mappers. It IS all the coders. (As far as I know. If I missed any significant coder, it was later in development) Do you really want to include every person who made a sprite, or sent a sketch to the credits? There has to be a limit. That IS one thing the game needs, otherwise it'll go on forever. Literally.
A. I already got half of the leaders programmed.
B. Most of the towns usually revolve around the type used for the gym, thus changing the gyms would mean major changes to towns which I really just want to stray from.
C. I'm basically at the point where I'd work with the plot and I want to make sure the leaders aren't boring. Any changes to the leader roster could be problems when you're in the middle of working on the plot.
D. You do realize YD's the gentlemen behind the ideas for the gyms?
E. It's not really skill arranged yes. But it does still mean there will be a difficulty curve in Pokèmon teams. And if that's not satisfying. I do plan it being possible to rematch Leaders (and Elite Four too?) with a full 6 Pokèmon team, and not restricted whatsoever.
F. I never really cared on whose's great or bad in Deathmatch. I'm just doing it based on the COMMUNITY, not the players. You could be not interested or stopped playing Pokèmon in like maybe Gen 4 or something. But if still did something interesting or atleast gave people a sign of interest for Cutstuff, you'd be in anyways.
G. I want to make sure everyone here makes a appearance somewhere.
You'll notice I never suggested changing the leaders' teams, or their gyms, or their towns. You've made those conclusions entirely on your own. As such, I really have no concern for anything YD wants. You COULD keep them the same if you really desired. Of course, though: Changing them in the middle of the plot is the best time to do so, as you're not actually "locked in" to anything.
How is the Community NOT "the players"? That's EXACTLY what it is! When you include people in a list that are all but absent from the game (8BDM) and the forums, how can you insist they're in the "community"? Unless, of course, you're referring to the Donutyoshi Community - which I believe would be a more appropriate title.
What amuses me is both of you seem to miss that anyone can be included as a "minor trainer". So if you're worried about "everyone" (another nameless person/existence) being in the game, it's unfounded: "Everyone" can get in the game if they really wanted to. Knowing that, why not make everyone on an equal level who doesn't fit a requirement to be a leader? Then no one is "offended" at their role. But then your friends wouldn't get the roles they want, right?
Also HD, personally you shouldn't get too mad over him. It's not like his ideas are actually going to happen.
Exactly. How could my ideas happen in a game that isn't actually going to be completed?
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