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Why you dont try to make your own classe mode Gummywormz?.... Instead say weird things to make this mode for you only.
I haven't played the hotfix yet, so I assume things like infinite wood man is fixed. Otherwise...* All of the new huds / item icons are just bad. Some even go as far as blocking views (there's a reason spark man's hud was moved / shrunken.)If more people complain we shall fix this problem and to be honest, I don't have a problem with it. Same for other people.* Proto Buster and Bass Buster can pick up weapon energy.This will be fixed but isn't priority * The weapon system seems a bit awkward but I haven't actually played online yet so.I'm not sure what you mean by "Awkward".* The lack of Bass' spread is kind of awkward too.I'm not sure if this is a problem that needs to be fixed.* Bass can still move while jumping.It is canon and makes bass better.* Bomb Man's big bombs seem quite spammable since you regen them right after one goes off.It isn't that spammable.* It would be nice if there was a shockwave sprite or something to indicate how far the range of Guts / Stone / Hard's ground stomps are.This isn't canon and may not look good.* Why the hell is oil slider oil man's alt? I do actually appreciate that the oil itself is a straight projectile but it's just confusing that you can't ride the oil.This is canon and doesn't affect gameplay too much.* Time Man gets fast arrows...and slightly slower arrows. Really the speed difference between the two are indistinguishable.I don't know, I can easily tell the difference but we might make more of a difference.* Enker is still garbage. Saturn does a much much much better job of Enker's role so he's pretty much useless. His fully charged mirror shots aren't even a 4hko.We are making Enker like Saturn in the next version.* Bubble Man's buster trail looks bad and glitchy. Also the fire animation doesn't play for one of the attacks. The bubbles could afford to be a bit bouncier.The bubble buster trail doesn't look glitchy. If it was, people would have said so on the servers. No, the bubbles don't need to bounce higher. Making them less bouncier, makes them more useful.* Quick Man's dash is a bit weird. You can't change direction during it or cancel it.If Quickman can't control it in the game, he shouldn't be able to control it in this mod.* "I like how I can shoot infinite hard knuckles and not wait for them to return like a smart man."This may or may not be fixed, although, I don't see this being much of a problem.* Top Man's main fire is a bit dumb. You don't go straight, which makes hitting anyone not right next to you a bit of a problem. Also his alt seems a bit weird too but I haven't tried it online yet.Topman's main fire may or may not be fixed and please play online.* No medium charge level for Spark Man is kind of meh. Also as mentioned above, the HUD blocks my view pretty badly.I don't see a problem with the HUD. If there are more suggestions, this will be changed.* Magnet's alt seemed to do a ton of damage.Makes him usable in death match.* Snake Man's jump height should be increased a bit. He can't get on top of the buildings on MM2DW1 while a lot of the other classes can.We are still not finished with Snakeman, He may get an alt fire.* Why can't Gemini Man's clone be the alt? I don't remember there being an altfire.This may be changed in the next version.* Punk's alt is just insanely bad. You have to bounce 3 times before dashing. You can't change direction, and the distance is pitiful. Again, I haven't played online yet but it seems impossible to catch people with this.Did you try holding the button? Also, I hit people easily.* Pharaoh Man's HUD also blocks my screen a bit. Also I don't get why the uncharged shots have to be the alt instead of being a charge level. It allows you to spam it more but that's about it.Again, if more people complain about HUDS then it may be changed.* Ring Man... oh boy. You took the concept of YD's Ring Man and ruined it tenfold. Also the Ring Boomerangs don't auto return when they hit a sky.I don't see anything wrong with Ringman and they do return when they hit the sky.* Skull Man's alt is useless. You become invincible...but have to stop completely. Please do tell me where this would remotely be useful? Someone can just keep firing shots at you.This attack bounces off projectiles and also deals damage if up close. This is very useful and I use it a lot.* Why does bright man get a jump dash again?It was a main attack in the game.* Why do Gyro Man's gyros stop randomly?Not randomly, it stops when you let go.* Crystal Man has no animation when firing the main fire.It isn't supposed to have an animation.* Why is Star Man slowed down to about 0 speed when using Star Crash? I mean it could be worked in especially with the armor but right now it's far too slow.This is used to discourage hugging, for our star man is a shooting class. He also runs half speed not 0 speed.* Ok really, why is there a theme of projectiles stopping randomly?What do you mean by this?* Why do I shoot cherries as Mars? Also he has no proper photon missile. Also, his mines don't regenerate.He doesn't shoot cherries, He has a proper photon missile and his mines do regenerate.* Jupiter's flight alt seems a bit broken from past experience with these kinds of attacks but I'm not sure.This may be fixed if more people don't like it.* Uranus' item doesn't seem safe at all...It isn't supposed to be safe.* What is going on with Pluto's item? Also his skin looks like he's flopping on the ground when moving...Pluto's item is a wall cling and I don't know what you mean by "flopping".* Blizzard's alt seems too sensitive to walls / floors.I don't see anything wrong with this.* Why does Plant get a jump dash too?It isn't a jump dash, it is a wall bounce.* Tomahawk's alt is piss. There's no spread at all. Also the hud blocks my view too.It does have a spread and is canon. The HUD may be fixed if more people request it.* The cooldown for Slash's item seems quite insane.It is needed, trust me.* Shade Man's alt has waaaaaaaaay too much of a cooldown for simple spark shock damage.It isn't spark shock damage, it has its own damage type that lasts longer.
Quote from: "Gummywormz"* All of the new huds / item icons are just bad. Some even go as far as blocking views (there's a reason spark man's hud was moved / shrunken.)If more people complain we shall fix this problem and to be honest, I don't have a problem with it. Same for other people.Am I "more people" yet
* All of the new huds / item icons are just bad. Some even go as far as blocking views (there's a reason spark man's hud was moved / shrunken.)If more people complain we shall fix this problem and to be honest, I don't have a problem with it. Same for other people.Am I "more people" yet
* Quick Man's dash is a bit weird. You can't change direction during it or cancel it.* Tomahawk's alt is piss. There's no spread at all. Also the hud blocks my view too.* Why the hell is oil slider oil man's alt? I do actually appreciate that the oil itself is a straight projectile but it's just confusing that you can't ride the oil.* No medium charge level for Spark Man is kind of meh. Also as mentioned above, the HUD blocks my view pretty badly.* The lack of Bass' spread is kind of awkward too.* The weapon system seems a bit awkward but I haven't actually played online yet so.* Skull Man's alt is useless. You become invincible...but have to stop completely. Please do tell me where this would remotely be useful? Someone can just keep firing shots at you.^ Just concerning this : you can use it to protect from one strong attack, like Slash Claw or Hard Knuckle, and then cancel the shield before running away. Only using the shield for a half-second and cancelling it can help. You're not actually supposed to stand still when using it (except if a powerful attacks lasting, like Bomb's giant bomb is about to explode on you).* Ring Man... oh boy. You took the concept of YD's Ring Man and ruined it tenfold. Also the Ring Boomerangs don't auto return when they hit a sky.^ BTW no, they took the concept from Capcom's Ring Man* Why is Star Man slowed down to about 0 speed when using Star Crash? I mean it could be worked in especially with the armor but right now it's far too slow.* Why does bright man get a jump dash again?* Why do Gyro Man's gyros stop randomly?* Why does Plant get a jump dash too?* All of the new huds / item icons are just bad. Some even go as far as blocking views (there's a reason spark man's hud was moved / shrunken.)* Crystal Man has no animation when firing the main fire.
* All of the new huds / item icons are just bad.
This isn't canon...
Quote from: "!o! woohoo"This isn't canon......so why does Stoneman have a charge attack?
Most of his suggestions make me remember of YD's classes gameplay. Also, to most questions he's asking, the reason is that it's canon, what YD didn't do. Incorrect. The YD classes consider everything a Robot Master could reasonably do within all the canons of Megaman, usually the arcade games.And that's what this mod aims to (even through, some problems he talked about are also present in YD -- like Bubble's firing animation.)Stoneman with a charge shot.YD had less trouble balancing because they were more free on the attacks ;I'm...not sure how that applies.consequently they could make classes with attacks that may complete each other (i.e tengu man). Every MM8 class is completely within reason for how they appeared in MM8, except for Astroman and a little bit of Frostman. Tengu especially, who quite literally did the tengu dunk in MM8.But when getting into original gameplay, balancing is a harder task to do because you're limited.WHATOKAY YOU KNOW WHAT? Just because you're trying to be more "canon" doesn't mean you can't BALANCE YOUR MOD. That is honestly one of the worst excuses I have EVER heard.He's right on the glitches/bugs he found though.
* Quick Man's dash is a bit weird. You can't change direction during it or cancel it.If Quickman can't control it in the game, he shouldn't be able to control it in this mod.
k gonna repost this instead of editingEDIT because I didn't read the post above mine:[referring to stardust]Quote from: "Stardust"Most of his suggestions make me remember of YD's classes gameplay. Also, to most questions he's asking, the reason is that it's canon, what YD didn't do. Incorrect. The YD classes consider everything a Robot Master could reasonably do within all the canons of Megaman, usually the arcade games.And that's what this mod aims to (even through, some problems he talked about are also present in YD -- like Bubble's firing animation.)Stoneman with a charge shot.YD had less trouble balancing because they were more free on the attacks ;I'm...not sure how that applies.consequently they could make classes with attacks that may complete each other (i.e tengu man). Every MM8 class is completely within reason for how they appeared in MM8, except for Astroman and a little bit of Frostman. Tengu especially, who quite literally did the tengu dunk in MM8.But when getting into original gameplay, balancing is a harder task to do because you're limited.WHATOKAY YOU KNOW WHAT? Just because you're trying to be more "canon" doesn't mean you can't BALANCE YOUR MOD. That is honestly one of the worst excuses I have EVER heard.In my humble opinion our mod is more balanced than YD at the moment. There's a few things that we saw at the servers that will be fixed. But nothing as big as the balance problems in YD such as ringman, chargeman and pharaohmanHe's right on the glitches/bugs he found though.EDIT WITHIN AN EDIT BECAUSE HOLY CRAPQuote from: "!o! woohoo"* Quick Man's dash is a bit weird. You can't change direction during it or cancel it.If Quickman can't control it in the game, he shouldn't be able to control it in this mod.EJSYADFHJKGFWHATARE YOU TELLING ME THAT BECAUSE QUICKMAN COULDN'T GO SIDEWAYS IN A 2D GAME THAT HE CAN'T IN A 3D GAME?!ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT 90% OF CLASSES WON'T BE ABLE TO AIM THEIR SHOTS NEXT VERSION?OH WAIT MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST REMOVE EVERYONE BUT MEGA, BASS, DUO, AND PROTO BECAUSE YOU COULD NEVER CANONICALLY PLAY AS THE ROBOT MASTERS[/capslock]As for this; we meant the boost in the game acted like he lost control and consequently made him run into walls it was our reasoning for making it as such. I think it's a good trade off for extra speed.
Most of his suggestions make me remember of YD's classes gameplay. Also, to most questions he's asking, the reason is that it's canon, what YD didn't do. Incorrect. The YD classes consider everything a Robot Master could reasonably do within all the canons of Megaman, usually the arcade games.And that's what this mod aims to (even through, some problems he talked about are also present in YD -- like Bubble's firing animation.)Stoneman with a charge shot.YD had less trouble balancing because they were more free on the attacks ;I'm...not sure how that applies.consequently they could make classes with attacks that may complete each other (i.e tengu man). Every MM8 class is completely within reason for how they appeared in MM8, except for Astroman and a little bit of Frostman. Tengu especially, who quite literally did the tengu dunk in MM8.But when getting into original gameplay, balancing is a harder task to do because you're limited.WHATOKAY YOU KNOW WHAT? Just because you're trying to be more "canon" doesn't mean you can't BALANCE YOUR MOD. That is honestly one of the worst excuses I have EVER heard.In my humble opinion our mod is more balanced than YD at the moment. There's a few things that we saw at the servers that will be fixed. But nothing as big as the balance problems in YD such as ringman, chargeman and pharaohmanHe's right on the glitches/bugs he found though.
So in other words, you just use the word "This isn't canon..." whenever it suits your purpose?
Incorrect. The YD classes consider everything a Robot Master could reasonably do within all the canons of Megaman, usually the arcade games.
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