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[Superjustinbros]

X has terribad copyweps in MMXSP. Either they were too slow and/or they were difficult to aim, and in some cases they seemed a lot weaker than the X Buster, even when you have one of the armors. X's copyweps for the most part ended up falling into "Awesome but Impractical" territory.
So if MMXSP was supported in this mod; X's arsenal of (current) special weapons should get some kind of buff, since they should be able to do a lot more damage than your default weapon(s).

[TheDoc]

Wait....which classes are you planning on doing, Tails? I thought it was only the original 4 and MAYBE SIN.

[TailsMK4]

From the amount of work I heard that Max has done to MMXSP, I believe at this point it's too much work to try to implement those classes. I won't rule out perhaps making them compatible later, though. As for SIN, I'm probably going to rule that one out as well unless we get tons of weapon ideas for the other four classes. Like I'm doing with the hub map, though, I will be using SOME of SIN in the mod, just probably not the classes.

[coolcat7022]

Here's a few attack ideas for MM2.
Metal Man: Gear Storm
Takes time to charge up, is a rage, but has three gears fall down and go straight, and they face the same direction.

[PotatoStrike]

Idea for Zero's Metal Man Weapon: Gear Wheel.
Throws a big half-gear (other half is in the ground) and damage everything on the path.

[fortegigasgospel]

Idea for Zero's Metal Man Weapon: Gear Wheel.
Throws a big half-gear (other half is in the ground) and damage everything on the path.

I was going to actually suggest METAL Shark Player's attacks for X and Zero, Metal Anchor and Rakukojin from Metal Man. Also your described attack is like Zankourin.

Also, is this project going to use a weapon select system like Wily Wars? Cause I would suggest that to help keep players from having an unnecessary amount of weapons with them at once, would allow each player to select their weapons to bring with them while in the hub to let different people play different roles within the classes by the weapons they select to bring with them.

[Superjustinbros]

I do have a feeling that if we get to the MM8 chapter and SIN is supported, Doc Robot would get smaller versions of the Evil Robot's attacks for his MM8 Weapons.

[TheDoc]

I do have a feeling that if we get to the MM8 chapter and SIN is supported, Doc Robot would get smaller versions of the Evil Robot's attacks for his MM8 Weapons.

That's IF it gets to MM8 and IF SIN is supported.
Tails is trying to get MM1 up and running so that this mod isn't dismissed, like Rozark said, as another pipe dream; why is everyone (not you specifically Justin) talking about hypotheticals for MM2-MM8 X and Zero? If I was Tails, I'd appreciate more ideas for MMSP MM1 weapons; for example, FGG has a whole list of MM1 suggestions on his resources page. Tails can debate these MM1 ideas right now because he's developing MM1.

Again, this is my opinion; I'm not speaking for Tails, so take it with a grain of salt. However, keep in mind that mods that build upon itself are built step-by-step, not spewing whatever comes to mind.

[fortegigasgospel]

I even tried to get a bunch out of the way at once, coming up with ideas on the spot or using some I had in mind already, this way I'm not spamming with a single idea after single idea and my ideas are more easily findable.
Perhaps a topic for weapon ideas for this project might be in order to not suddenly flood this one.

[TailsMK4]

I want to avoid having to make another topic altogether just for this mod, but I guess I might have to if it becomes a problem searching for ideas previously suggested.

[Knux]

I was going to post these MM1 weapon ideas on Skype, but I didn't see you there at the moment.

Bomb Man:

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Proto - Cluster Bomb: Lob a bomb far away by holding down fire, then release fire for it to divide into smaller bombs that explode on contact with anything. If the big bomb isn't divided and it contacts something, it explodes for bigger, single target damage.

Bass - Bowling Bomb: fire a bomb that rolls across the ground and bounces off walls, but explodes upon making contact with enemies.

Roll - Surprise Bomb: spawn four bombs around Roll, which explode shortly after being set. Great for getting enemies off of you or your allies, but consumes a lot of ammo.

Guts Man:

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Proto - Pebble Splinter: Proto Man jumps, then strikes the ground. Small rocks fly forward at great speed, and nearby enemies are stunned.

Bass - Guts Digger: rocks are dug rapidly and sent flying off into random directions around you in short distances. Like Roll's Surprise Bomb, this is great for getting multiple enemies off of you, though it consumes ammo fairly quickly and it makes the user hold still while being used.

Roll - Super Crusher: point at place and fire. A large rock will drop in that spot!

Cut Man:

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QUACK QUACK QUACK :3
Unless you want something new instead of what Mike made.

Elec Man:

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Proto - Rapid Thunder: fire a single shot of Thunder Beam forwards, but with greater ROF than normal Thunder Beam.

Bass - Electric Pinpoint: the old pinpoint thunder attack from CBM's Elec Man class.

Roll - Surge Sphere: fire an electric orb at an enemy. If there are more enemies nearby, it will hit up to two more, all for decent damage.

Ice Man:

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Proto - Icicle Drop: fire at an area where you want a rather big icicle to fall.

Bass - Ice Shards: materialize five ice chunks which stay in the air briefly before shooting forward. (This behavior already exists in the weapon Delay Flame from the RNC expansion. Not sure what can be done about that.)

Roll - Icy Sweep: Roll swings her broom, which makes three Ice Slashers go forward, though they disappear at short range.

Fire Man:

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Proto - Fire Wall: shoots a firetrap forward. Bigger hitbox and damage than normal Fire Storm, same ROF, but no fire "shield".

Bass - Fire Rain: makes fireballs rain down in a set radius as long as the fire key (pun not intended) is held, but slows down movement. (Much like GvH Ghostbuster's Ice Rain weapon.)

Roll - Fire Circle: hold down to create a larger version of Fire Storm's "shield" around you. You can move normally while doing so.

I don't know what to say about Time and Oil that hasn't been done, but I can give both a shot on request.

[BlackEmperorJet]

I was going to post these MM1 weapon ideas on Skype, but I didn't see you there at the moment.

Bomb Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Cluster Bomb: Lob a bomb far away by holding down fire, then release fire for it to divide into smaller bombs that explode on contact with anything. If the big bomb isn't divided and it contacts something, it explodes for bigger, single target damage.

Bass - Bowling Bomb: fire a bomb that rolls across the ground and bounces off walls, but explodes upon making contact with enemies.

Roll - Surprise Bomb: spawn four bombs around Roll, which explode shortly after being set. Great for getting enemies off of you or your allies, but consumes a lot of ammo.

Guts Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Pebble Splinter: Proto Man jumps, then strikes the ground. Small rocks fly forward at great speed, and nearby enemies are stunned.

Bass - Guts Digger: rocks are dug rapidly and sent flying off into random directions around you in short distances. Like Roll's Surprise Bomb, this is great for getting multiple enemies off of you, though it consumes ammo fairly quickly and it makes the user hold still while being used.

Roll - Super Crusher: point at place and fire. A large rock will drop in that spot!

Cut Man:

(click to show/hide)

QUACK QUACK QUACK :3
Unless you want something new instead of what Mike made.

Elec Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Rapid Thunder: fire a single shot of Thunder Beam forwards, but with greater ROF than normal Thunder Beam.

Bass - Electric Pinpoint: the old pinpoint thunder attack from CBM's Elec Man class.

Roll - Surge Sphere: fire an electric orb at an enemy. If there are more enemies nearby, it will hit up to two more, all for decent damage.

Ice Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Icicle Drop: fire at an area where you want a rather big icicle to fall.

Bass - Ice Shards: materialize five ice chunks which stay in the air briefly before shooting forward. (This behavior already exists in the weapon Delay Flame from the RNC expansion. Not sure what can be done about that.)

Roll - Icy Sweep: Roll swings her broom, which makes three Ice Slashers go forward, though they disappear at short range.

Fire Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Fire Wall: shoots a firetrap forward. Bigger hitbox and damage than normal Fire Storm, same ROF, but no fire "shield".

Bass - Fire Rain: makes fireballs rain down in a set radius as long as the fire key (pun not intended) is held, but slows down movement. (Much like GvH Ghostbuster's Ice Rain weapon.)

Roll - Fire Circle: hold down to create a larger version of Fire Storm's "shield" around you. You can move normally while doing so.

I don't know what to say about Time and Oil that hasn't been done, but I can give both a shot on request.

Please do give ideas for Time and Oil.

[Trillster]

Nice ideas Knux, you should make some for the MM2 weapons once we get to that point. I'd love to see some of your time and oil ideas.

[BookofDobson]

I was going to post these MM1 weapon ideas on Skype, but I didn't see you there at the moment.

Bomb Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Cluster Bomb: Lob a bomb far away by holding down fire, then release fire for it to divide into smaller bombs that explode on contact with anything. If the big bomb isn't divided and it contacts something, it explodes for bigger, single target damage.

Bass - Bowling Bomb: fire a bomb that rolls across the ground and bounces off walls, but explodes upon making contact with enemies.

Roll - Surprise Bomb: spawn four bombs around Roll, which explode shortly after being set. Great for getting enemies off of you or your allies, but consumes a lot of ammo.

Guts Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Pebble Splinter: Proto Man jumps, then strikes the ground. Small rocks fly forward at great speed, and nearby enemies are stunned.

Bass - Guts Digger: rocks are dug rapidly and sent flying off into random directions around you in short distances. Like Roll's Surprise Bomb, this is great for getting multiple enemies off of you, though it consumes ammo fairly quickly and it makes the user hold still while being used.

Roll - Super Crusher: point at place and fire. A large rock will drop in that spot!

Cut Man:

(click to show/hide)

QUACK QUACK QUACK :3
Unless you want something new instead of what Mike made.

Elec Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Rapid Thunder: fire a single shot of Thunder Beam forwards, but with greater ROF than normal Thunder Beam.

Bass - Electric Pinpoint: the old pinpoint thunder attack from CBM's Elec Man class.

Roll - Surge Sphere: fire an electric orb at an enemy. If there are more enemies nearby, it will hit up to two more, all for decent damage.

Ice Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Icicle Drop: fire at an area where you want a rather big icicle to fall.

Bass - Ice Shards: materialize five ice chunks which stay in the air briefly before shooting forward. (This behavior already exists in the weapon Delay Flame from the RNC expansion. Not sure what can be done about that.)

Roll - Icy Sweep: Roll swings her broom, which makes three Ice Slashers go forward, though they disappear at short range.

Fire Man:

(click to show/hide)

Proto - Fire Wall: shoots a firetrap forward. Bigger hitbox and damage than normal Fire Storm, same ROF, but no fire "shield".

Bass - Fire Rain: makes fireballs rain down in a set radius as long as the fire key (pun not intended) is held, but slows down movement. (Much like GvH Ghostbuster's Ice Rain weapon.)

Roll - Fire Circle: hold down to create a larger version of Fire Storm's "shield" around you. You can move normally while doing so.

I don't know what to say about Time and Oil that hasn't been done, but I can give both a shot on request.

About Guts wep for proto I think we can use the moblie phone game idea (2003 or 2004 that game was out and my first megaman game I guess you guys haven't heard of it) main fire shoots a rock splinter at the target. It is slow but does good damage and doesn't take much damage, alt fires a full rock that does more damage than Megaman's super arm but takes way more ammo.

And I'm guessing Fakeman, Doc, Duo and Dark don't exist now.

Anyway MM2 weps for the other classes should be based on Rom hack weps... trust me, that is fun

[TailsMK4]

MMSPSIN won't be supported at this moment, but the fact we got so many weapon ideas...maybe something will come out of this later. Anyway, just a little announcement that a team is being formed so work can be done by people other than myself as my focus shifts to mapping, the one thing this team really lacks...

Expect occasional updates to the first post, especially since I gathered all of the enemy sprites I could find on my computer, and as I eventually claim a map for myself to do (thinking Guts Man).