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Maps / [Map Pack] PEGGPACK - v1b

« on: July 07, 2022, 01:53:48 AM »

Oh boy, another damn map pack.



I dunno, I just felt like throwing my hat into the ring after getting some positive reception on my Jam maps. The goal for these maps is just to... have more maps for people to play on! Surely that's never a bad thing.

The initial release only has 5 maps, but I'm planning on adding 5 additional maps for each major version. So while it's starting out small, eventually over time it could end up seeing 20+ maps. We'll see if I last long enough to get there!

Not much else to say - Hope you like the maps!

DOWNLOAD - Mirror

Screenshots (Out of date):

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PEGG01 - Pretentious Genesis








PEGG02 - Diesel Industries








PEGG03 - Sabe A Naranjas







PEGG04 - Fresh Lettuce







PEGG05 - Dark Castle

Credits:

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== GENERAL CREDITS ==

AUTHOR:
pegg

Testing/Feedback:
Korby
Rozark
Yair
LlamaHombre
Russel
Trillster
Nxbulaa_
...And everyone else who's given feedback! Thank you!

Additional thanks:
Rozark (for use of boss music script, thanks man)
Russel (for creating the PK3Reorder tool)

Inspiration (aka people who made maps I like):
Rozark
Lego/Russel
Caprice
Derek/Watzup7856
LlamaHombre
Thunderono
Freems

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== SPRITES/GRAPHICS CREDITS ==

Maxine (Shotzo Props, originally from their Orange Ocean map)


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== MUSIC/AUDIO CREDITS ==
 
- VERSION 1 MAPS -


Branflakes:
PGGMUS04 - Bomberman Hero - Redial [2A03 Cover]                         (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZjBZwRPxJg)
PGGBOSS5 - Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards - Boss [2A03 Cover]

Chips n' Cellos:
PGGBOSS4 - Sonata No. 8 Op. 13 (Pathetique), Beethoven [2A03 Remix]            (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt-h448h0ko)

coatlesscarl:
PGGMUS02 - Mega Man X3 - Toxic Seahorse [VRC6 Cover]                     (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SKa2KPs5jQ)
PGGBOSS3 - Chrono Trigger - Boss Battle 1 [N163 Cover]                     (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-0eZ2XpWy8)

FearOfDark:
PGGMUS03 - Shoreline - Starfish Island                                 (https://cheesenbeer.bandcamp.com/track/fearofdark-starfish-island)

IsabelleChiming:
PGGBOSS1- Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum - Battle! Gym Leader [VRC6 Cover]       (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohW4one7I3c)
PGGFBOSS - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link Remade - Dark Link               (https://isabellechiming.bandcamp.com/album/zelda-ii-the-adventure-of-link-remade)

MistSomething:
PGGMUS05 - Kirby's Dream Land 2 - Dark Castle [VRC6 Remix]                   (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4yumWVUhEQ)

Threxx:
PGGMUS01 - Touhou Chireiden ~ Subterranean Aminism - Lullaby of Deserted Hell [N163 Cover] (Famicompo Pico 2015 Entry 61 (No direct link, sorry!))

Virt/Jake Kaufman:
PGGBOSS2 - Shovel Knight: Shovel of Hope - The Stalwart                     (https://store.bravewave.net/album/shovel-knight-the-definitive-soundtrack)



- VERSION 2 MAPS -

CosmicGem:
PGGMUS06 - Mega Man Stage 32,572                                    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxG8qJUn8CQ)

Changelogs:

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==v1a

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== V1A == //The most useless changelog!

== PEGG01
-Added!

== PEGG02
-Added!

== PEGG03
-Added!

== PEGG04
-Added!

== PEGG05
-Added!

==v1a Hotfix

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== V1A - Hotfix ==

== PEGG01
-Fixed some untextured surfaces

==PEGG02
-Added a missing impassible linedef

==Other
-Tweaked audio balancing for PGGBOSS5 and PGGVIC
-Due to complaints from competitive classes players, removed vanilla compatibility; all maps are now Rush Skateboarding exclusive


== V1B - Minor Update ==

== General
-Added new map PEGG06
-Adjustments to match v6b standards
--Switched pit method from map scripts to new hazard pit actor
--Tweaked file structure to match "modern ZDoom file structure"
---Shoutouts to Russel and his PK3Reorder tool!
-Added particle effects to bouncepads

== PEGG01
-Bandaid fixes
--Broke a hole in the wall near the gravity lift, connects to Wild Coil area
--Added two additional sets of stairs to Crystal Eye/Item-1 area
---Comment: These changes are a lazy attempt to salvage the current layout and make it flow better. If it doesn't work, I'll just re-do this map.
-Slight adjustments to energy/health pickup positioning to make better use of space
-Minor texture alignment adjustments

== PEGG02
-Removed Water Shield
-Replaced Power Stone with Junk Shield
-Replaced Plant Barrier with Gravity Hold
-Added new route that connects purple cave zone with the north teleporter room
-Overhauled southeast portion of the map
--Tweaked doorways leading into south teleporter room
--Merged (previously) Power Stone and Metal Blade rooms into one single room
--Added new room connecting the newly merged room with (previously) Water Shield area
---Adjusted Light team spawns to account for this
-Removed a majority of death pits
--Comment: Similar to the bandaid fixes in 01, this is an attempt to salvage the current layout without having to remake too many rooms.
-Minor texture alignment adjustments
-Moved Yashichi position

== PEGG03
-Minor texture alignment adjustments
-Gave water sectors slightly stronger orange flavouring

== PEGG04
-Replaced Spark Chaser with Magma Bazooka
-Adjusted geometry in the middle area of the map
--Removed death pit, split statue into two for more breathing room
-Greatly expanded east and west sides of the map
--Adjusted teamspawns to account for this change
-Moved Yashichi position

== PEGG05
-Replaced Commando Bomb with Hard Knuckle
-Adjusted numerous hazardous areas where players would commonly fall into death pits to be safer overall
-Added additional route from spiral staircase bridge into basement dungeon
-Added additional room that connects basement dungeon with Light Team spawn
-Minor texture alignment adjustments

== PEGG06
-Added!

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Bugs/Suggestions / [Sprites] MM&B Skin Improvements - Part 1: Ground Man

« on: April 24, 2022, 11:40:56 PM »

Yo.

Getting straight to it, Ground Man skin replacement.



I think, as of right now, Ground Man's skin is one of the most outdated skins in the game. The original skin, while serviceable, now looks out of place next to the numerous other higher quality sprites and skins in the game. As such, I wanted to give it a small touch-up.

However, I wanted to gauge public interest before I went any further with it. Fully re-spriting a skin is a pretty big thing; after seeing some reactions to the new Sword Man, I felt it should be the standard to be transparent and show off these kinds of major graphical overhauls before moving forward with them. I'll be doing this again at a later date with another MM&B skin as well (hence the thread title).

That about covers everything I wanted to say- all feedback is appreciated!
Thanks!

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MM8BDM Discussion / [Unofficial] MM8BDM Discord Server

« on: July 04, 2019, 01:38:41 AM »

There's an MM8BDM Discord server that exists. It's a great place to be if you wanna be social with other people who also like Mega Mans and 8-Bits and Deathmatches.

Rules

Rule 1: No harassment. Arguments can get heated, this is fine. Insulting people, bringing unrelated issues up with them during an argument, or any sort of harassment or mud-slinging is not allowed due to not contributing to discussion in the slightest. Don't go around being mean to someone just for the sake of being mean.  Your messages may be removed if they are too inflammatory. This includes any kind of slurs or other words meant just to put others down. Failure to comply will result in a temporary mute, and repeat offenses can result in a permanent mute or a ban at extreme scenarios.

Rule 2: Label what you're posting and keep it legal- No malicious or illegal activity. Don't just send malicious/shock/random files, links, or discords. No doxxing people or impersonating them. No sending content that would get you arrested or get the Discord in legal trouble (warez, piracy, etc.)

Rule 3: Political/Community Drama discussions are not forbidden as long as they do not devolve into mudslinging/insults or interfere with normal discussion in public channels.

Rule 4: Avoid bringing other servers' drama in here, and avoid bringing this servers' drama elsewhere.

Rule 5: If you're gonna complain about a @here / @everyone ping, just turn them off if they bother you. The only way you're getting pinged is if a trusted member with a role has used it. If you wish to receive this role, you can DM/ping a moderator about it. Failure to comply may result in a mute.

Rule 6: If you have echo/loud background noise in VC you may be muted, let a staff member know once you've got it worked out and you'll be unmuted quickly.

Rule 7: Obviously, don’t post NSFW content here.

If you feel any of these rules have been broken or a situation is getting out of hand, DM/ping a moderator.

Just to keep organized, we've also got a large set of channels, each with varied purposes.

- Most discussions can go in #general.
- #intros_and_q-a Is for introducing yourself to the community! It can also be used to ask questions that relate to this discord server.
- #matchmaking is for organizing games and hosting servers for MM8BDM.
- #games_room is for organization and discussion of other games than MM8BDM.
- #creative is for art/music productions.
- #modtalk is for MM8BDM modifications.
- #mm8bdm_discussion is for discussing the core MM8BDM game.
- #anything_goes is for miscellaneous nonsense (rules above still apply!)

After you've (hopefully) gotten acquainted with the rules, you should...

Join the Discord!

We hope to see you there!

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Closed / Error in Alien's Skin

« on: February 07, 2018, 11:01:34 PM »

Straight to the point, frame ALIEE1 has an error in it. Seems like it was cropped poorly on the left side.

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Closed / [Sprites] Quickman skin revamp

« on: October 20, 2017, 12:06:35 AM »

Hello, Quickman is ugly. I have made a Quickman that is slightly less ugly.




Features include:
Less odor
50% less insects
Strange legs

All for the low low price of free.
Thats right folks, you can have this shiny boy for a large amount of free.


In all seriousness, Quickman's skin is kinda gross, and I wanted to do something about it.
The main thing holding this skin back is the legs, and if I was allowed to change them I definitely would. Last walking frame is completely optional, it was suggested for smoother animation.

I may do more things like this in the future but currently I have no plans for anything else.

PK3 soon maybe

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MM8BDM Discussion / [Sprites] &B Mugshot 'improvements'

« on: July 28, 2017, 01:24:29 PM »

Hi.
Most of the &B mugshots are bad.
I don't like them.
I 'fixed' them.



Fixed is in quotes due to the fact that I'm unsure that the devteam will like the changes made.

I've also received a few complaints of Burner looking too pale and Dynamo looking out of style.
I can't do much about Burner, since he's already got a lot of colours on him, and Dynamo isn't too high on my 'hit list'.

So, use these if you want.

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Tutorial Collection / [TUTORIAL] Creating a customized skin

« on: June 10, 2017, 01:44:11 AM »

EDIT: As of the release of v6b in 2023, this post has been rewritten for the MM8BDM wiki.
You can find that article here.

For legacy purposes, the older version of this page has been kept in-tact in the spoiler below; However, it is strongly recommended to read the article on the wiki instead as the information there is much more straightforward and beginner-friendly.

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So, you think you're cool enough to make your very own custom skin? This tutorial will guide you on your path to the true misery that is creating skins.

INGREDIENTS:

SLADE3
An image editor that supports transparency (I recommend Paint.NET)
Trillster's Skin Assembler Program
A lot of time

Section 1: Setup

Alright, first things first. We need to make the sprites, which is easier said than done.

There are a lot of specifics for skins, so here's what you'll need to know.


Colors

8BDM uses certain colors on skins in order to make sure when you pick up weapons, your skin switches to that color. The default colors are specific shades of blue and cyan, which is why in player setup all of the skins are this color.

#0078FC, or color 198 in the 8BDM palette.
#00F8FC, or color 192 in the 8BDM palette.

There are also 2 other colors, black and white.

#000000, or color 0 in the 8BDM palette.
#FFFFFF, or color 4 in the 8BDM palette.

These are important to know, because 8BDM is very picky with it's colors. An off color could mean that it wont translate correctly and it won't work in-game.

Finally, all vanilla skins use an "eye white" which is color 168 (#FCFCFC) on the palette. This only applies to the eyes of the skin. This is done so that modders can translate the white parts of a skin (i.e. in a weapon charging animation) without making the eyes flash as well. Use of it is not required, but it's nice to include if you have the time.

Now that we know the colors, we can actually start making the sprites now.

Spriting

Open your image editing software and create a new image.

I've created a template here so that it may be easier to understand what exactly you're doing.



Now, before you do anything, please note that you do NOT have to make your skin within the template. You can organize them however you want, and I'd encourage you to do so.

Back on track, you may be confused by a few things in this image, which I'll explain here.

Below each classification (Walk 1, FrontRight, etc.) is a set of numbers or letters in brackets. These are used for naming conventions when compiling your skin. Before we get into that though, we first need to make the sprites. You will need to make an equivalent for every image in the template shown above.


This is the part where you go and make the sprites. I can't really give an 'art' tutorial, but I can however give a few tips.

Make sure everything in your rotations are consistent height-wise. You don't wanna have a character's arm be in 5 different places in just one rotation!
If your character is completely symmetrical, you can probably get away with mirroring the Walk 1 frame to use as the Walk 3 frame.
Try to make it look Megaman-y! Your skin will fit in with the rest of them if it does.
If you're still stuck, ask for pointers from artists within the community. Asking for help is generally helpful.

Section 2: Compiling your skin

This is where the skin assembler comes in. Or not, depending on what you want to do with it.

There are two ways to compile a skin nowadays: Using the assembler, or doing it manually. There are advantages to each, but generally for new skin-makers I would recommend just sticking to the assembler. If you want a more technical understanding of what's going on underneath, I've included the manual method as well.

Automatic:

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Using the skin assembler is really straightforward.

Open it up and it'll look something like this:


The author is... You! You made the skin, probably.
The skin display name is how it'll show up in game in menus.
The sprite name is the four-character filename of the sprite. Try not to name it something that might conflict with other in-game graphics.
The crouching sprite name is the same thing, but used if you want to have a crouching sprite for your skin. Most skins don't have this so don't worry about it.
The class is for whatever class you want it to be for. If you're just making a skin for the base game, keep it as Megaman.

Sounds! Self explanatory, upload sounds if you want to change them.

The mugshot sprite name is also optional, it's only for mods that use such a thing.
Any option or field prefixed with an asterixis (*) is mandatory and must be filled out, though.

To add your sprites to the file, upload your sprite sheet using the "Open Spritesheet" button. If you used the example sheet as a base, I'd recommend getting rid of the grey borders and white text before doing this.

If it worked, you should get something that looks like this:


Use the sliders and lettered buttons to scroll through frames and rotation angles. Clicking on a frame in the sprite sheet will apply it to whichever frame is currently being viewed in the main Assembler window. For example, if I click on Maestro's FrontRight (45 degree) Idle sprite while having that angle and frame viewed in the editor, it'll overwrite the Protoman sprite with the Maestro sprite. It's a little difficult to show a visual example for this with just images, but try and use the angles from the default Protoman skin included as a reference for which frames should go where.

When you're all finished, hit the Process Skin button and put the file it gives you into your MM8BDM skins folder. It should work just fine.

Manual:

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First, you have to take every individual frame and put them into separate PNGs. This can be very time consuming, but there's a tool that can help you do this in seconds.

After you have all of your frames in separate image files, you have to name them correctly. This is where the letters and numbers from the template come in.

Here's how it works: The first 4 characters of the filename define what set of sprites it is. The last 2-4 define the specific rotation of the frame.

For example, here's the base skin's front frame.


PLY1A1

PLY1 is the set of sprites, A is the frame (idle) and 1 is the rotation number (front), hence why it's called PLY1A1. It's pretty easy to understand once you get the hang of it. The other frames follow similar formats.

Frame letters:

A = Idle frame

B, C, D, E = Walking frames

F, G = Firing frames

H = Pain frame

Rotation numbers:

x1 = Front

x5 = Back

x6x4 = BackRight

x7x3 = Side

x8x2 = FrontRight


Please note that "x" in this situation refers to any of the the frame letters.

Rotation numbers can be tricky: note that if your FrontRight rotation is facing to the right, then the frame name will be x8x2. However, if your FrontRight is facing to the left, then it becomes x2x8. This is because the numbers are set up to support full asymmetrical rotations.



Typically, skins in this game don't use all 8 rotation angles, which is why they're mirrored like this, but you're free to use them if you'd like. The rotation angles for them are x1, x2, x3, etc... as seen in the above image.
"x8x2" essentially tells the game, "This is the frame for the 8th rotation angle; mirror it for use in the 2nd rotation angle." Same goes for x7x3 and x6x4 as well.


Now that you have your frames in separate images, you now have to compile them into a .pk3 file

Putting your skin into SLADE

Open up SLADE3, assuming that you downloaded it earlier, and create a new zip archive.

Create a new folder and call it 'sprites', then import all of your image files into the sprites folder.

And now, toying around with offsets. Go into your sprites folder and select all of your frames.
On the right of your screen, you should see something that looks like this:


Click Modify Gfx Offsets. A little window like this should pop up:


Click the dropdown menu and select "Monster (GL-friendly)", which should set the offsets for you automatically. This should automatically offset all your frames for you.
Once you're done with that, repeat this process but this time select "Set Offsets" and make sure the Relative box is checked. Then, put a -1 in the second field. What this does is bring all the frames down by a pixel, which is done for reasons. Just trust me on this one.



Once that's done, you should go through your frames and check to see if they're in the right places. While the automatic graphics offsets can be useful, they can sometimes be inaccurate as they offset based on the resolution of the frame. If your skin is particularly animated and changes size a lot during actions, it's wise to check that they stay in the right place so that they're not moving around drastically during animation.


Finally, we need to create a SKININFO file.

A SKININFO file is what you use to define the skin so Zandronum knows what it is. Exit out of the sprites folder if you haven't already. This is where it gets tricky. Create a new entry and name it SKININFO. Click it and on the right there should be a button that says "View as text". Click that, and paste the following code into the textbox:

Code: [Select]

{
name = " "
sprite =
class = Megaman
dsnoway = LAND
dsoof = LAND
dspldeth = MEGADEAT
dspdiehi = MEGADEAT
dsplpain = MEGAPAIN
dstaunt = dsnone
gender = other
}
The missing spaces can be filled with:

name = What you want your skin to appear as on the Player Setup tab
sprite = The first 4 digits of your skin frames (Ex. PLY1)


You can customize it a bit with sounds, so if your character is heavy you can change LAND to FATLAND. You can also change the pain sounds from MEGAPAIN to MM2PAIN, MM3PAIN, MM4PAIN, etc.
Really, you can make them whatever sounds you'd like, but try not to get too silly with it.


Now, click Save As and save your file as a .pk3 file in your skins folder (which can be found in the same place you installed 8BDM).

Section 3: Testing and FAQ

If you saved your skin in your skins folder, you're all ready to go. Just check out your frames in Roll's mirror, be sure to test out different weapons.

FAQ:

Q: Can other people see my skin?
A: Only if they have it in their skin folders too. Share it with your friends!

Q: My skin doesn't change color with weapons!
A: That means you used the incorrect colors. You'll have to recolor your frames on your sheet and recompile.

Q: My skin moves around a lot while animating!
A: Go back in and tweak the offsets in SLADE3. If you used the Automatic method of compiling, check out the Manual section of Section 2 for help with this.

Q: I tried to download the Skin Assembler installer, but my browser flagged it as a virus. What's wrong?
A: Try downloading the archive version instead. You'll have to unzip it using an external program like WinRAR or 7zip, but it probably won't get your antivirus mad at you.

Conclusion

Hopefully this was a useful resource in creating your skin. As of writing in 2022, this is the first substantial update to the original thread from 2017 which contained some nasty misinformation, so I hope this is more accurate and straightforward. If you have any issues with getting your skin to work, just post a reply below. I'll see if I can get back to you.

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Closed / [Sprites] Various Prop Improvements

« on: May 03, 2017, 01:18:58 AM »

For a while I've been noticing that a few props on some maps just... Could be better. I'll be updating this thread with more fixed sprites as well, but as of now have a look at these.

Bomber Pepe

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Pandeeta

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Baccone

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Bunby Catcher

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Komasaburo

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Matasaburo

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Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5mD8LqN2NtlZGpOdDFTbzR4d1k

Had fun making these, thanks for letting me help!

Changelog

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Edit 5/3/2017:
-Added comparisons
-Updated Pandeeta
-Added Baccone, Bunby Catcher

Edit 5/4/2017:
-Fixed some height inconsistencies on Bunby Catcher and Bomber Pepe
-Added Komasaburo

Edit 5/5/2017:
-Added Matasaburo
-Should all be in a PK3 by the end of the day.

Edit 5/8/2017:
-So much for having it in a PK3 by the end of the day. Anyways, PK3 is now downloadable!