MM8BDM v5 Public Thread - MM9 Expansion

[Magnet Dood]

Am I allowed to suggest Threxx's version of the MM7 boss theme? I always thought it had the best sound to it.

[LlamaHombre]

just stopping by to say I'm going to be a day late on the update - class has been demanding my attention a good bit more than usual recently.

if anyone has questions until then feel free to keep asking, just know I probably won't get an answer out until tomorrow

[MusashiAA]

I've heard Threxx's MM7 covers, but I don't think his sound really fits into 8BDM's overall reimagining of MM songs. Pretty much every single cover so far of a MM song that was not originally on the NES was done in such a way that it would sound like it did, making heavy use of instruments from MM1-6 songs (barring original compositions). Threxx is far, far more liberal in that aspect, and unless the devteam pulls a 180 in terms of how MM7, MM8 and MM&B songs should sound like, I don't expect them to replace them all with Threxx's covers. Maybe just one. If he ever sent his stuff to the devteam or not, I don't know.

[Superjustinbros]

Speaking of music, while I doubt it'd happen I would really like to see redone themes for Time, Oil, and the MMPU boss theme made using MM1's sound font.

Yes the current themes do sound like something that'd be in a Mega Man game, or at least an NES game = made later into the system's life, but I feel like they may be too detailed of remixes especially compared to the OSTs of 1-6, 9, and 10.

(the non-PU MM1 maps themselves also have this to a certain extent in my opinion- with the six+two Wily stages sticking to original, arguably more simple MM1 tiles instead of opting for combining them with more detailed tiles like colored MMI, downgraded MM1WW, or downgraded MMPU tiles)

[MusashiAA]

Timeman's theme and Oilman's theme are covers by OM. The MMPU boss theme is a cover done by whoever was in charge of music for the FC Team, at the time of 8FC's development. I did try making a MM1-themed edit of OM's MMPU covers, but the original compositions aren't something that would lend itself well 1:1 to MM1's sound in some specific parts, which honestly need some more in-depth look at them and perhaps a finer ear for MM1 pitches and vibratos.

[NemZ]

I don't care much for the 'explosion' effect in Threxx's version.  Just doesn't fit my view of the retro megaman asthetic.

[Gumballtoid]

I kinda like the dynamic the Powered Up masters have going with the original six; yeah, they were included in the remake, and they share the same series of map code, but they're a fair bit more refined since they only existed in the remake. Even their boss theme lends itself to that.

Personally I'm happy with the MM1 maps as they are now. Including Wily Wars tiles would mix it up too much for my tastes.

[Thunderono]

The only song in core I'd care to see be remade is Search Man.  That song sears my ears every time we roll that map.  Of course, I wouldn't shed any tears if TENVMUS bit the dust or at least had a little less than 1/11 chance of rolling.

[<geminibro>]

Going slightly off-topic, but, the MM9 Expansion Team, you did a very good job with these maps.

I remember awhile back, i made a Galaxy Man map, it ended up getting lost as i switched computers. But i was proud of it, noneoftheless.

[MusashiAA]

Most of the MM8 covers OM did need to be looked at, IMO. I'm sure he can make them sound way better now.

[Superjustinbros]

Personally I'm happy with the MM1 maps as they are now. Including Wily Wars tiles would mix it up too much for my tastes.

You do have a point there. The maps are playable and fare pretty well even if the textures for those stages may lack detail compared to the maps in the games to follow Then again the original game's tiles weren't exactly eye and I can't blame someone for sticking true to the source. I would be interested in seeing how the MM1, 2, and 3 maps fare with Wily Wars textures, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it considering it'd only be simple aesthetic changes.

[LlamaHombre]

Hello again, Mega Man fans. Today's buzz is some more Mega Man 9 content, but before I get too far ahead of myself let's answer some questions.

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1) Can you walk through the Shadow Rockman screens on MM9PLU or are those just wall textures?
They're mostly just decor. I think early on in development we tossed around the idea of them being more than such, but figured with the layout's emphasis on exaggerated height that a few yoku blocks could provide for some familiar, yet intricate ways to complement the layout at hand. Shadow clones would probably just get annoying once the novelty wears off.
Also to clarify some things, Plug's layout is about half and half dark/light. Basement sections remain permanently dark but are relatively simple to avoid clarity problems, while lit warehouse sections focus more on dynamic elevation and various ways to swoop down below to join a firefight or escape from a pursuer.

2) Are certain MM7 covers being updated?
Yeah. If memory serves, the majority of the problem children have already received some sort of replacement or will be getting one soonish.

That's it for now, but feel free to keep those questions coming!

Here's a look at one of the new weapons.

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(I'm not sure what happened with this picture ;-;)

Hornet Chaser works a little differently than its long-range brethren.

When fired, a bee is released. If nobody's around, it'll hang in place for a while. After a while, it'll head out. They're busy bees, after all.



When it notices someone, it'll charge them if they get close. It is from this point on that they become relentless. Their speed isn't great, so you can run from them if needed, but if you try to dance around them you're most likely gonna get stung. Their homing is extremely precise, and allows them to have a niche as a trap weapon for more open areas than weapons like Flame Blast can cover.



They can still be stacked to work in corridors and such, but with their range limit they'll probably just look pretty or crash into terrain as you escape. This also applies with corners - quick reactions will give you more than enough leeway to backpedal from the entrance and steer them into walls.

So, use them to secure kills at close range after having dealt some power to begin with, or use them to force an opponent into a defensive stance at the risk of some hefty punishment.

See you all next update, and prep yourselves for some weapon discussion tomorrow!

[Beed28]

Such an unBEElievable weapon. I can't wait for this expansion to BEE released.

[-FiniteZero-]

It's a deadly bee weapon.

Bees.
My god.

Does seem to be a very interestuiging weapon that succeeds in setting itself apart from all of the other homing weapons.

[SmashTheEchidna]

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"C'mere little bee~"