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Vanilla weapons make their way into other game modes too, including CBM. I know it's a different beast but when all the weapons are available you can still give your thoughts on which ones are over/under performing or just aren't fun to use. We can't just turn a blind eye to vanilla weapon balance if people have thoughts on them, so I'll do that everyone ping.
Would like to pop in to say that Laser Trident is a complete chore of a weapon and is simply too unwieldy to see much success with. Too much effort is required for too little payoff, if you ask me.
-Hornet Chaser (click to show/hide)Compared to the other homing weapons, this one could be called the lesser of evils, magnet missile and dive missile can be cheese mode sometimes, Homing Sniper is a super shotgun of death but hornet chaser doesn't do anything deadly, ...and that's exactly my problem. You can juke the bees, outrun the bees, kill the bee user before his bees kill you and the bee user can only backpedal from you anyways. I don't like this kite happy weapon but at least it could work (once we get zan 3.0) on CTF.
-Atomic Fire (click to show/hide)I like the nerf it got, it made it so that using A.Fire (in my opinion) is all about bluffing your opponent into either jumping or cornering himself or just shooting it JUST RIGHT, it also pulled the whole "projectile-that-gains-speed-over-distance" gimmick better than Laser Trident just by the fact that if you hit it, you get a reward of instagib damage for your opponent. HOWEVER, fuck the ammo, it should be 2 full charge shots for the entire ammo bar, not just one, this makes this weapon fucking painful to use in (T)LMS because if you miss, you are fucked. Just give it enough ammo for a second MAX power shot, that's all i have to say about the magic ball of fire.
-Mirror Buster (click to show/hide)This thing is powercreeped by leaf shield in every way, it doesn't protect you a lot, the ammo lasts so short and the reflected shots aren't exactly easy to aim and also unrewarding since they do like 40 something max, compared to other projectiles that can do more, it feels like Mirror Buster doesn't reflect equal or better damage than its user is (potentially) taking, it should just get secondary capabilities like being also a reflecting shield so if you get shot by dive missiles, this thing can bounce them back and maybe edit the way it works, holding it makes the shield stay for a couple of seconds then die and then you rise it again like, what if you could just hold it and the ammo sloooowly drains out unless you're getting shot? I'd make it better imo.