GVHv2b9 Armor Patch -Beta 3- Actually Fixed.

[Blox]

..But there's a new bug. Since ohsofuriously didn't want ghouls gaining health by killing humans, I made Choke get health by killing humans. This, however - introduced a new bug. It broke the health-by-pain thingy Choke had before beta 3 :<

Since SlumpEd started bitching, I only released a 'really' fixed version right now.

How to play with it (And you might even be able to host a server with it.):

Just load it in after GVHv2b9.pk3 - It should do the trick.

The list of changes is;

Beta 1 (Alpha?);

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Things as are:
[X] Now deals [Y]% more/less damage (to [class.]) *I did this to save a lot of time.*

Humans:

The Marine:

[li] Sjas now inflicts 80% of the usual damage.[/li]
[li] Choke(Melee)/Jitterskull/Frostbite(Melee) attacks deal 5% less damage. (Quite pointless, yes.)[/li]
[li] Frostbite's breath now deals 15% more damage.[/li]
[li] Choke's alternate attacks are now 10% less effective.


The Hunter
[/li]
[li] Normal arrows now pierce through Frostbite's armor!*[/li]
[li] Sjas now does 15% extra damage.[/li]
[li] Frostbite's breath now deals 25% percent less damage.[/li]
[li] Choke's alternate attacks now inflict 5% more damage. (Again, quite pointless.)[/li]
[li] Choke(Melee)/Jitterskull/Frostbite(Melee) now deal 10% extra damage..[/li]
[li] Received a secret buff to a attack. (Not telling!)[/li]
[li] Now has 4 different Damagetypes ready to be used. (Normal/Fire/Ice/Lightning arrows.)


Cyborg He's tougher now.
[/li]
[li] Now receives 30% less damage from Sjas(!).[/li]
[li] Frostbite's breath is now 25% more effective against him.[/li]
[li] Now receives 15% less damage from Choke's alternate attacks.[/li]
[li] Now receives 20% less damage from Choke(Melee)/Jitterskull/Frostbite(Melee).[/li]
[li] Plasma damage increased to 10 from 6[/li]
[li] Plasma now has the STRIFEDAMAGE flag on. (Instead of (Damage * random(1,8)) it's (Damage * random(1,4))


The Ghostbuster
[/li]
[li] Now receives 30% more damage from Sjas(Eep!).[/li]
[li] Now receives 15% less damage from ghoul melee attacks. (Frostbite/Jitterskull/Choke.)[/li]
[li] Frostbite's breath now deals 30% less damage.[/li]
[li] Choke's alternate attacks now deal 10% more damage.[/li]
[li] Now has a real collection of Damagetypes. In hope for tactical usage.


The Engineer
[/li]
[li] Sjas deals 15% less damage.[/li]
[li] Receives 10% less damage from melee attacks.[/li]
[li] Frostbite's breath deals 10% extra damage.[/li]
[li] Choke's alternative attacks now inflict 5% more damage.[/li]
[li] Now has one of the most powerful weapons. (Not telling!)




Ghouls

Sjas
[/li]
[li] Now (hopefully.) receives 30% less damage from *The* Marine's firearms. (That doesn't include grenades!)[/li]
[li] Only receives 50% damage from Ghostbusters' Sonic Wave upgrade. (Native damage.)[/li]
[li] Soul Plasma deals 15% extra damage.[/li]
[li] Grenades (and steam cannon projectiles.) now deal 10% more damage.[/li]
[li] Receives 30% less damage from ice-based attacks. (Ice arrows and the Ice Rain upgrade. *Or whatever it is.*)[/li]
[li] Fire-based attacks now deal 20% less damage. (Fire arrows and steam cannon 'heat')[/li]
[li] Ghostbusters' normal proton packs now deal 25% more damage.[/li]
[li] Now receives 25% more damage from lightning arrows.[/li]
[li] Cyborg plasma now deals 5% less damage.[/li]
[li] Piercing-based projectiles now deal 20% less damage. (Normal arrows, nails and buzzsaws.)[/li]
[li] Ghostbusters' blood cannon upgrades now deal 30% less damage.[/li]
[li] May or may not have a screwed-up achievement system. (MoMn because I kinda tried to fix it.)


Jitterskull
[/li]
[li] The Marine's firearms deal 20% less damage.[/li]
[li] Soul plasma only inflicts 30% of the usual damage.[/li]
[li] Sonic Cannons (The Ghostbuster upgrade.) deal 30% more damage.[/li]
[li] Grenades deal 40% more damage. (And steam cannon projectiles.)[/li]
[li] Now receives 28% less damage from plasma.[/li]
[li] Proton packs deal 15% less damage.[/li]
[li] Lightning arrows inflict 10% less damage than before. (1.5 Instead of 1.6)[/li]
[li] The Ice Rain (Or whatever.) deals 30% more damage. *Oh noes.*[/li]
[li] Piercing-based projectiles now deal 15% less damage. (You better read the whole thing.)[/li]
[li] Fire-based attacks now deal 40% less damage.[/li]
[li] Now receives 40% less damage from the blood spreader.

The Creeper
[/li]
[li] Now receives 50% more damage from the Sonic Cannon.[/li]
[li] Soul Plasma only inflicts 55% of the usual damage.[/li]
[li] The Marine's firearms now deal 20% more damage.[/li]
[li] Grenades now deal 20% less damage.[/li]
[li] Piercing-based projectiles now deal 40% more damage.[/li]
[li] Fire-based things now deal 35% less damage.[/li]
[li] Ice-based things now deal 25% more damage.[/li]
[li] Proton packs inflict 10% more damage.[/li]
[li] Now receives 25% less damage from cyborg plasma.[/li]
[li] Blood spreaders (Ghostbuster Choke upgrade.) now deal 30% more damage.

Choke
[/li]
[li] (Since I'm lazy after typing for 1 hour.) Unfortunately, pretty much everything is a bit more effective against choke now. (But blood spreaders and grenades.. Nothing interesting for Choke. |:)

Frostbite
[/li]
[li] Sonic Cannons now deal 20% more damage.[/li]
[li] Soul Plasma inflicts 35% less damage.[/li]
[li] Now takes 30% less damage from The Marine's firearms.[/li]
[li] Grenades are now "very" effective against Frostbite.[/li]
[li] Piercing-based projectiles now deal 45% less damage. * Wow, you actually read this? Well, normal arrows penetrate Frostbite's armor because they only deal 55% of their usual damage.[/li]
[li] Fire-based things now deal 40% more damage.[/li]
[li] Ice-based things are now useless against Frostbite. (10/15% of usual damage.)[/li]
[li] Lightning arrows deal 15% more damage.[/li]
[li] Proton packs inflict 30% more damage.[/li]
[li] Plasma is 15% stronger against Frostbite.[/li]
[li] Blood Spreaders deal 40% less damage.[/li][/list]

Beta 2 has minor changes. (Due to no testing, and lots of discussion.);

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Choke stats:
Sonic Cannon: 115%
Soul Plasma: 65%
Bullets: 80%
Grenade: 70%
Piercing: 110%
Fire: 90%
Ice: 110%
Railgun (Lightning arrows): 125%
Electricity (Proton pack): 85%
Plasma: 90%
Blood Spreader: 20%

Extras:

Choke now regains some health when he hurts the humans! (Pain.Jitter -- A_GiveToTarget("Health",random(0,2*1 For cyborg.*))

The same thing goes for Jitterskull and Frostbite's melee attack. (Will change on request!) So watch out!

Much cleaner, isn't it? (;[/list]

Beta 3 :

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Strengths/Weaknesses now have a slightly increased ratio.
 Jitterskull can get up to 32 health by chomping the dead victim.
 Choke now gets 4-18 health for each human he kills. (2-9 for cyborgs.) .. The health-by-biting is now broken. Too bad. I might erase all those extras.
 Ported to GVHv2B9
 The cyborg's plasma now experimentally does any amount of damage between 16 and 45

.. I'll make this better LATER.

You're welcome to complain about something, give out a suggestion or test it and say whenever there's a class that has a screwed up achivement system or not. (Or, if you feel like it. Host a server with it.)

[TERRORsphere]

I really want to play GVH with this patch. I want to see how well it works and if it's good enouph for GVHv2b9

[Blox]

I really want to play GVH with this patch. I want to see how well it works and if it's good enough for GVHv2b9[/sarcasm]

I think I fixed your post.

HOORAY - For doing stuff like this.

Nah, I'm just posting a reply for future editing. Because editing the first post isn't a good idea.

[Mobius]

Grenades and Steam Cannon doing more damage

Son, we need a long chat.

[Ivory]

Unfortunately, pretty much everything is a bit more effective against choke now. (But blood spreaders and grenades.. Nothing interesting for Choke.

...Choke has enough problems as it is with health without being weak to pretty much everything. Especially when he currently lacks any way to regain HP.... this entire idea is full of problems. What is this, GvH or Pokemon? Engineer used Nail gun on Sjas, it wasn't very effective.

[Blox]

..What is this, GvH or Pokemon? Engineer used Nail gun on Sjas, it wasn't very effective.

Now, tell me. What would you think would be more effective against a ghost.

A nail gun, or a proton pack?

Grenades and Steam Cannon doing more damage

Son, we need a long chat.

I see the point. But the classes that are easier to hit with them received a defense against them. (And the other way around.)

[/TheExpected]

Oh, did I mention that I was just posting it for the heck of it?
Because it seemed like a nice idea to make certain classes good against certain classes, but having certain weaknesses against other classes.

Huzzah. I just continue the angry discussion.

[Ivory]

I would think normal arrows, nails or saws would go right through a ghost, but then that would make the engineer is beyond screwed once he's out of steam cannon ammo.

Also the grenades are pretty much the only way a Marine can effectively deal with a creeper, that or be lucky/good with the shot gun, but the grenades are for more efficient.

This also doesn't say anything about Chokes already awful time surviving all that hitscan, plasma, and other crap that flies at the poor guy.

[Mobius]

Face it, it's because he's pink and ugly right?



Come out with it you racist.

[Blox]

I might just edit Choke, and say that because he's a zombie. He's a bit resistant to everything. :P
I like Choke! But I made the defenses depending on what would seem right. Frostbite is fucked against fire and grenades. Because fire melts the ice. And grenades just blast him to pieces.

And that makes it up. Choke is made of flesh and blood. Making him the most exposed ghoul.

Also;

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I would think normal arrows, nails or saws would go right through a ghost, but then that would make the engineer is beyond screwed once he's out of steam cannon ammo.

Because it seemed like a nice idea to make certain classes good against certain classes, but having certain weaknesses against other classes.

Forced teamwork. Yes, I know that people usually just ignore it.
But that's the main reason to why I made this. "If there's no class variation, you can't win it without trying harder than usual."

Sjas should work kind of like this;

> = Wins over.
< = Loses to.
Sjas > Engineer
Sjas <? Hunter
Sjas <? Ghostbuster
Sjas > Cyborg (Hopefully.)
Sjas >?< Marine

By the way, the damage the steam projectile spawns deals fire damage. While the projectile itself (As when it hits something.) deals grenade damage.

P.S: Did any of you try playing with it?
Because it's a nightmare to judge it without real gameplay.

And judging it by playing with bots, is not a good idea.

Did I mention that it might be possible to make Choke regenerate a bit of health per pain state? As the Creeper already has such a thing. But it happens in the special Death state.

K, thx! Bai. D:

[Mobius]

All this for a game in which 70 percent of the players will just rush in and die.

[PR3D (Backup)]

i had a idea for gvh for a way to recharge  chokes hp  well there are bloodspheres around the map and when choke stays dormant in them he recharges slowly idk an idea

[Blox]

It has been updated! (Totally pointless.)

And obviously, the new download text leads to a new URL.
Moar gameplay pl0x? );

[Anonymous]

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[Blox]

Extras poll now open. And because I'm a forgetful someone. I could only think of 4 "minor" changes.

Now, be nice and don't vote "No" on the very same thing you voted "Yes" to.

THANK YOU --->

Since I'm feeling like it:

Should I increase the total impact of this? (Eg.instead of 15% less damage, it could be 30%.)

[Possesed]

Jitterskull should get health from killing humans.

Are you insane?