MEGA MAN ROCK FORCE EXPANSION (V3) - V6B COMPATIBLE

[MegaVile]

You know I kinda find it weird how Justiceman only takes 2 damage from the shock gauntlet and not 4 or 5, considering its his weakness and you get it from the guy that threw him on a loop for the evil behavior he had after the intro stage. Just a suggestion tho lol

[Darkpaladin109]

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Shockman's attack isn't actually the reason why Justice Man goes bonkers in the newest version. It's cause of how Light programmed him or somesuch.

[MegaVile]

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Shockman's attack isn't actually the reason why Justice Man goes bonkers in the newest version. It's cause of how Light programmed him or somesuch.

Well he was acting nice before, when Shockman did the shock, accoring to after the death man fight, it made him see something. Which is why Justice Man was like that after the shock. Even though he probably would have done it before hand. But either way before the shock he was just another megaman.
So it's a nice nod to how Shockman started the whole thing and his weapon ends it if you use it.

[Yoshiatom]

Shock Man's map will now randomly choose between the original nighttime sky used in the Shock stage and the daytime dam sky used in the intro stage

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I'm not to sure about how the daytime BG looks; while I don't think much can be done about the skyline suddenly transforming into a dam, I dislike the fact that the skybox cuts off at the top and bottom of the dam, and cyan pits, just what?

The addition of CTF replacements is nice though, does that mean there will be a set of CTF maps with RF weaps and textures? (I'm assuming no but...)

[Trillster]

You know I kinda find it weird how Justiceman only takes 2 damage from the shock gauntlet and not 4 or 5, considering its his weakness and you get it from the guy that threw him on a loop for the evil behavior he had after the intro stage. Just a suggestion tho lol

I think this was already answered on the Discord but I might as well just mention it here as well. This is pretty much just a balance thing, originally it did triple it's normal damage against players. As you can imagine, this was way too powerful. You could kill Justice Man in about eight shots, not even using half of the ammo bar. Because of this, the multiplier was lowered to double the damage and ammo pellets were given on the sides. Shock Gauntlet still is rather quick though so it has it's uses over the Mega Buster.

[Xhatahx]

I just downloaded the newest Zandronum version, and bumped into a problem. The water in Shock Man's stage is treated as a bottomless pit.

You might want to look into that before v5b rolls around(assuming Zandronum doesn't fix that by themselves).

[Magical Doropie]

Even though I had some trouble installing it at first (blame my inexperience with Zandronum and DOOM in general), the expansion is great, even if not all of the skins are quite finished!

I do, however, have a few questions/nitpicks/whatever about the expansion:
- Shouldn't Shock Man's stage come first? The intro stage to Mega Man: Rock Force uses the enemies, graphics, and music of Shock Man's stage. It would only make sense to me to make Shock Man's stage the first stage in the lineup as a nod to the intro stage.
 - Speaking of Shock Man's stage, I feel like the frag limit should be lower, or at least less than twenty, because a lot of environmental deaths happen in the stage thanks to the bot AI not being able to recognize the water as a threat. Not only would this support making it the first stage if you did that, but seriously, my time playing the stage the first time through was 22:31.
 - One final, very small thing about Shock Man's stage: One of the spawns spawns the player partially sunken into the ground. It's a very small thing, and you can easily get out of being sunk by just jumping, but something that should probably be fixed nonetheless. It's the spawn by this spark shock:

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- As for the one thing I noticed not related to Shock Man's stage: The obituary for the Crypt Cloak (if I remember the past hour correctly) is "%o was dragged to their grave by %k's Crypt Cloak." (Or something along those lines, at least.) Shouldn't it use Zandronum/Skulltag genders?

UPDATE: I have now finished the campaign and have a few additional suggestions for the next version regarding the end of it.

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- Justice Man says that the player character could've been his "brother" in the rebellion, regardless of what the player's gender is set to; obviously, this is a bit odd when said to female or other characters. I know for a fact from Buster Rod G's battle that it is possible to have altered dialogue based on gender, so I do believe that the next version should address this.
- If Justice Man is slated to only be the first phase in his battle, then his difficulty should definitely be turned down; in fact, even as a standalone boss, he is not at all unlike every boss added in v5 in that, despite having a simple attack pattern like some of them, his fight feels unfairly difficult, especially given the fact that originally, Justice Man's first phase was a simple and relatively easy boss. Probably the easiest way to turn down the difficulty and make him feel more fair is to make him less durable so that it feels more like Justice Man is just as strong as the player (after all, he did originally give a dynamic of being nearly equal to Mega Man). If Death Man is going to be a boss as he seems to be implied to be, he too should be less durable than many of the v5 bosses, given how in Rock Force, his attacks do enough damage to kill the player in 3 hits; if this is going to carry over to the expansion, the fight should be challenging, but always short. Remember: A harder boss is not a better boss!

Anyways, that's it for now. I look forward to the expansion's completion!

[Yoshiatom]

I do, however, have a few questions/nitpicks/whatever about the expansion:
- Speaking of Shock Man's stage, I feel like the frag limit should be lower, or at least less than twenty, because a lot of environmental deaths happen in the stage thanks to the bot AI not being able to recognize the water as a threat. Not only would this support making it the first stage if you did that, but seriously, my time playing the stage the first time through was 22:31.

In the next version there's going to be block monster lines by the water so that the bots won't fall into it at infinitum. (at least that's what I've herd) Although I always found that the bots were really hard to find in that map anyways. And there's nothing stopping you from using MDK I guess...

- One final, very small thing about Shock Man's stage: One of the spawns spawns the player partially sunken into the ground. It's a very small thing, and you can easily get out of being sunk by just jumping, but something that should probably be fixed nonetheless. It's the spawn by this spark shock:

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I pointed this out to Max on the Discord server and it should be fixed in the next update.

[Brash Buster]

I'm giving a try at making a Terror Man skin, if that's all right.

[Trillster]

That's definitely alright with us, especially considering how difficult it seems Terror Man would be to make. I wish ya luck in trying to rotate his ridiculous amount of limbs. If you wouldn't mind, could you join the Discord server for the expansion as well? It'd just make it a lot easier to keep track of skin progress. Here's the link again if you need it, https://discord.gg/bCWw2GK

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Speaking of skins, I've seen a few requests for it here and there, so now there's a Rock Force skin pack. Just for the sake of keeping it easy to update, it does not have Crypt Man and Plague Man's skins despite them being finished, but rather they will be added with the V2 release of the Rock Force expansion.

You can download it here.

If you're curious who all made the skins, here's a quick list of credits found in the file.

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Photon Man - FTX6004
Pulse Man - kirbymariomega
Virus Man - Raze
Fuse Man - Dimpsy
Shock Man - Bass44
Charade Man - Dimpsy

Thrill Man - Dimpsy
Thermo Man - FTX6004
War Man - FTX6004 (+Dimpsy?)

Justice Man - Maxine / Yellow Devil

[Superjustinbros]

You are a lifesaver Sonic.

Also Pulse's walk animation is a work of art.

[Max]

This update is like 50 screenshots and spoilers so get ready 

uhh what do I say
our mappers are asleep (for now) but everyone else has been doing work!!

Skins +bots
Every fusion master now has a bot, even though the ones included in the first release didn't at first.

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Now finally joining the roster to complete the first 8 robots, here's Circuit Man by FTX!
blame his old age for the delay

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And sneaking in while nobody's looking, here's Brash Buster's Terror Man!

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If you're curious, you can read all the robot master's botchats http://pastebin.com/p9Lqk4ch and the fusion master's botchats http://pastebin.com/GywTnr5n

This just leaves about... 3 fusions and the fortress bosses 

BUT
THERE'S ONE MORE SKIN
NITRO MAN

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Whilst he was replaced by Oil Man in v1, the scarfed crusader hung up his... scarf to make way for the REAL last member of the Rock Force, the stunt robot Nitro Man from Mega Man 10!
Zooming into a premature release before v6, he might bring along his Wheel Cutter, and be a selectable skin and ally in the campaign. He'll also be playable in...

[Max]

MEGA MAN ROCK FORCE CLASSES

we kept this under the radar for a little while to get it presentable but it's here now, people on discord have undoubtedly heard of it
Take control of 9 Rock Force members or 9 Justice League members to duke it out in team-based combat!
Like Ghouls vs. Humans, MMRF-Classes will have an asymmetric loadout of classes on each team. Thus they will be written down here in pairs, with one Robot Master from the Rock Force a parallel counter for a robot on the Justice League.

Everything you see below is subject to change.
The mod is not yet released nor finished. It will run in an optional .pk3 added after the expansion file.

Mega Man vs. Justice Man - the leaders

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Mega Man can shoot rapid fire, slow moving pellets or charge up for a strong shot.
He can slide at will with all weapons, and will copy any Justice League member's weapons upon dealing the final blow.

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Justice Man fires very fast moving bullets in bursts of three. His charge shot is a ripping collection of orbiting energy balls.
He can slide like Mega Man, and will copy any Rock Force member's weapon upon dealing the final blow.

The two will most likely not have their own team's weapons unless played in a non-team mode.

Cut Man vs. Circuit Man - the reliable DPS

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Cut Man can fire his rolling cutter one at a time. It travels very fast, and as soon as you release the button it will begin to instantly return.
He can chop up his enemies with a melee, and wall-jump.

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Circuit Man is able to pepper the battlefield with combo throws of Circuit Breakers precisely or throw them around.
But that's not all he can throw! He can pick up enemies or allies and toss them with ease, and when there's no living ammunition he can create blocks from the floor to use as walls, shields, or explosive sliding throws.

Bomb Man vs. Fuse Man - the explosive frontline

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Bomb Man can pick up and throw timed explosives. They'll tick and beep on his head whilst cooking, and can be thrown at any moment.
He can also bowl the bombs with his alt, where they will bounce off walls and slide along the floor until eventually coming to a stop if the fuse is long enough.
Hitting with a timed explosion does far more damage than simply smashing the bomb on a surface.

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Fuse Man cares little for Bomb Man's finesse. He can fire the Phantom Fuse and guide it around, but he can also injure himself by accident or use it to ROCKET JUMP.
When flying through the air, he'll toss spreads and spreads of spammy dynamite.
When not flying, he'll toss dynamite one at a time faster and faster as his health drops.

Fire Man vs. Photon Man - the defensive powerhouses

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Fire Man has to charge up his shots, but can fire up to three at once and use his wave as an improvised flamethrower before firing.
Once he has ammo, he can rapid fire small waves of pure burningness over a large area. These waves will naturally snake and spread themselves out to really heat up the battlefield.
He can also aim his main fire shots downwards to propel himself around using the recoil and rain justice from above.

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Photon Man has to charge up for a lot longer (thanks solar power), but once his shot is ready he'll immediately burst out an entire wave of burning laser death until he gives up or runs out of ammo.
If he's not ready to shoot, he can release early to deliver a swift punch that will send enemies flying away from him!
Laying mines with alt, he can detonate his Photon Flares by overcharging them with his laser to carpet bomb areas and set up traps.

Elec Man vs. Charade Man - flankers, crowd confusers, and attention seekers

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Elec Man is lightning fast and weak, able to powerfully zap his enemies with the Thunder Beam.
He can also cross terrain, climb cliffs, and be an overall nuisance with his Thunder Dash, disorientating and dancing on the other team.

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In his default state, Charade Man can throw slow bouncing balls and clone himself. These clones will copy the actions of their creator - so they can stand in place or be sent running forward as a distraction in any direction.
Wimpy by himself, Charademan's most notable characteristic is his ability to mimic anyone he sees. This can allow him to pick up the Rock Force's weapons, throw lightning and dash like Elecman, spawn torpedoes and fly like Diveman, or even pretend he's a motorcycle and run up walls like Nitroman. He can hold one power at a time - and cannot use his original kit. He steals no characteristics, movement, or defenses of his target and simply mimics their actions and weapons!

Dive Man vs. Virus Man - the backline spinners

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Though he may be a bit slow, by the time Dive Man has opened up his chest there's an entire barrage of missile death behind it ready to burst out.
Rapid firing his weak, non-tracking missiles can allow Dive to lock onto an enemy, seeing them through walls and causing his tracking red missiles to gun for their target.
He can also use the Psycho Crusher to headbutt enemies slowly or freefly and reposition.

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Rather than relying on puny missiles, Virus Man can summon a legion of infected enemies to do his dirty work once he has enough ammo. There are three tiers:
-Virus blobs, which drift around taking frequent breaks in order to meatshield for him and occasionally crash into an enemy.
-Virus tadpoles with sharp teeth, these are fired out of his arm like homing missiles and will bite into any target they can find.
-Virus hoppers, which act like independent enemies bouncing after and harassing the other team with a fair amount of hit points.
When alone, Virus Man is quite wimpy. However, a quick melee spin attack can give him a moment of deflecting attacks to protect himself as well as some brief flight before his legs reattach.
All of Virus Man's attacks will infect the enemy with 150% damage taken. However, this doesn't buff his solo damage, only his teams.

Knight Man vs. Pulse Man - the tanks

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When he's not using his shield to defend himself or allies, Knight Man can fire his crusher out and hold it in place to catch his enemies before reeling in.
He can also spin his crusher over his head, charging up for a powerful and stunning ground slam while injuring anyone too close!

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Whilst Pulse Man might be a slow and fat robot, he can spread cheerios in a huge area like no other. Four shots at a time build up fast, and he's quick at getting into the fight with his super jump.
Activating his item will pump up the big heart, allowing him to stomp with even more destructive power or fire a huge Pulse Stopper that can be used as a slow-moving shield by his team.

Tornado Man vs. Shock Man - the crowd control

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By shooting out balls of wind, Tornado Man can place markers that will allow him to create tornadoes when he uses his Tornado Blow. These can be created horizontally to push people around, or on floors or ceilings to push them up and down. He can also slow enemies once they've been dazed with wind!
Not only that, but Tornado Man can use his signature tornado form to float in the air and increase his speed. When in this form, he can prey on enemies affected by his crowd control with a swift stomp on the head. Bounce on 8 people for a 1up!*
*Is not coded and never will be

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Filling a similar role, Shock Man can use his hands to grab enemies or terrain and send deadly thunderbolts their way.
He can also retract his hands to pull enemies towards him or his allies, and will shock the ground whenever landing for a natural combo.

Nitro Man vs. Crypt Man - gone in a flash

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Whilst averagely moving at first, Nitro Man can naturally transform into a bike to run over enemies, escape, or even climb walls.
He fires and throws the Wheel Cutter at an average rate, while they accelerate towards their enemies quickly.
However, once in the air after leaping off a wall, Nitro's daredevil excitement causes him to throw two cutters faster and with enough speed to shred up the opposition.

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Crypt is a bit more methodical, able to turn invisible at will and be completely undetectable to anyone but Dive Man.
He can reappear from the shadows to create shockwaves when pounding the ground, or charge up a huge dash to leave his enemies dazed and confused.

whew that took forever to type out
expect news about the additional mod when it's ready, whew
though it can't be released until after v5b, and MMRF-V2 will take priority.
This classes mod has been a joint venture between CutmanMike, myself, and Sonicfam and as always I am grateful to everyone involved!!!!

[GameAndWatcher]

 
Nitro Man's making an early appearance?! Can't wait to finally play with him!

[Korby]

I think the only thing I don't like about this is that I won't get to play as the Fusion masters.
I'm excited to see how this works; it's reminiscent of GVH so I'll definitely give it a go.