[EXPANSION] Rokko Chan - Expansion Pack Limbo...

[Superjustinbros]

Words cannot describe how excited I am.

[Blaze Yeager]

I believe kujakiller knows some due to him speaking between PureSabe when he was working with him on 4MI.

[BiscuitSlash]

I remember someone was obsessed with Japanese awhile back, and for a good long while too.
-dramatic pause-
His name was M712.
Of course, I'm not sure if he knows actual Japanese, but he did quite abit with it.

Then there's other people, and my attempt to help this topic and this post become why.

I was just using Google translate, while retranlating it back to make sure it was somewhat what I was trying to say. I only know the pronunciation of a few words. I can't even write my own name in Japanese despite seeing it so much on skype.

I really want to learn Japanese though. I wish I could.

I'd also like to help with this expansion somehow, as I really like this fangame. I may code some of the weapons and the campaign boss later on.

[Russel]

I...know this is out of the blue, but I can make weapons, provided I get the sprites...

I have a couple ideas here...I'll spoiler them for space.

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Ice Shield
Give the projectile a damagetype...

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Damagetype "IceShield"...to freeze an enemy player.

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Pain.IceShield:
PLAY A 0 A_GiveInventory("FrozenChan",1)
PLAY A 0 SetPlayerProperty(0, 1, PROP_TOTALLYFROZEN)
PLAY A 0 SetPlayerProperty(0, 1, PROP_INVLUNERABILITY)//Makes it so freezes will not stack
PLAY H 70 //Delay 2 seconds on the hurt frame
PLAY A 0 SetPlayerProperty(0, 0, PROP_INVLUNERABILITY)
PLAY A 0 SetPlayerProperty(0, 0, PROP_TOTALLYFROZEN)
Goto Pain::Megaman
As for shielding, I think maybe have it absorb certain damage types, as reflection like leaf shield is not possible, there is only 1 place in Zandronum for reflection in that form, unless you wish to employ ACS, which I don't, not for weapon functionality like that.

Volcano Cannon
Hyper Bomb buffed in all possible ways? That would just be too OP...
I say take Hyper Bomb, cut set the damage to 1/4, make it a straight, non-bouncing projectile.
Forest Whip
Slash Claw is far too ordinary.
Let's make this hit a set number of times, doing...eh...10 damage a hit?
As for sprite basis, I have an idea for that, too~ (Borrow Fish again, like I did for Ghost Shackle)
Lightning Flash
Ok, this one will be fun, but I need to monitor what it can do power wise, as well as make for fucking sure no one can wallhack. (which would require ACS to kill off Zandrohax)
Metal Blade with a firing rate nerf, can pass through walls and floors, and explodes every tic.

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+NOINTERACTION//To enable passing through level geometryJet Missile
Dive Missile Reskin, you can only go so far with homing weapons.
I propose we use Doom's old homing code that was on the Revenant's Missiles, as it would make it unique to 8BDM.
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Rolling Ring
Take Gemini Laser, buff the damage, ensure absolutely no bounce speed reduction, give it a spread.
Done
Beetle Jet
A moving item-1 with Remote Mine's turning code and Guts Lift's sticky code.
...Should be interesting...

The only issue I see would be colors and balance. While colors really aren't that big of a deal now with the new palette, I have not compared Rokko-Chan's colors to it at all, so colors may not end up being 100% accurate, unless I can get my old palette editing software back (I really hated that thing...).

But yea...stuff.

[fortegigasgospel]

Rolling Ring
Take Gemini Laser, buff the damage, ensure absolutely no bounce speed reduction, give it a spread.
Done

That sounds broken as apposed to Gemini Laser. Making it stronger, not slow down AND fire three at a time? I'd say lower the damage to make up for faster and firing more and maybe a slightly lower RoF.

Also Jet Missile, maybe a much slower missile then dive but stronger to make up for just being faster then a player?

[CHAOS_FANTAZY]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE
Thanks to a strapping gentleman and fellow Rokko Chan fan from a neighboring forum, the message has been successfully delivered, and a reply received.  And, well, we didn't just get the graphics we asked for.
We got every single graphic in the game.  Including some unused content.

It's taking me a fair bit of time to sift through all this, and get it ready for public use (Since nearly every graphic is saved as its own individual picture), but by tomorrow I should have all the skin candidates sheeted and ready for...well...skinning.  For now, I have Forest and Lightning for you--Lightning unfinished, but all the material needed is present.

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If anyone has any specific requests for me to sheet something (Like an enemy to be used as a stage prop), or perhaps you just want to see the unused content, that can be arranged.
Note that I am prepared to hand out the download to the entirety of the material to anyone, but understand that it is for MM8BDM use only.

If nobody has any objections, I'll probably wind up handling all the bot chats myself, but I wouldn't mind if someone else wanted to take one.

As a final note, now that we're squared away on everything, it may be time to begin thinking about what we want our campaign boss to be...

[GameAndWatcher]

I MUST do Hockey Man's botchat, I don't care if my version of him wouldn't get in, nor do I care that I've barely played the game before, I'm calling him, just for the fact that he's a friggin' HOCKEY MAN.

[fortegigasgospel]

As I had said before I'll be willing to make a map, but I wouldn't want to take up a slot until I like what i'm making. Just promise this won't suffer the same fate the MI expansion did.
As for botchats, I'd either hold a contest of sorts and let people submit some, or ask The_Broker. Just my opinion.

[CHAOS_FANTAZY]

I MUST do Hockey Man's botchat, I don't care if my version of him wouldn't get in, nor do I care that I've barely played the game before, I'm calling him, just for the fact that he's a friggin' HOCKEY MAN.

...I...would actually appreciate that quite a lot.  I don't really know much about hockey, and since you seem to be passionate about the topic, you could probably sneak in some really clever references.

As I had said before I'll be willing to make a map, but I wouldn't want to take up a slot until I like what i'm making. Just promise this won't suffer the same fate the MI expansion did.
As for botchats, I'd either hold a contest of sorts and let people submit some, or ask The_Broker. Just my opinion.

Asking The Broker is precisely what I want to avoid.  I mean, he's a cool guy and all and his bot chats are good, but seriously, he's already got just about every other.  Let's let someone else (Read:  me (And whoever else wants to join)) get a chance.
Your map will be much appreciated, and once again, I trust that the people's love for Rokko Chan will overcome the monster known as laziness.  Honestly, I don't understand why the 4MI expansion is dead/dying to begin with.  

Also polls.  Important polls, where the votes may be cast.
Effectively everyone has their own unique name for the two characters in the Mad Stage 1 boss battle.  Cast your votes for the name you'd like to appear in-game.  All names presented name the gray girl, then the yellow girl.  The two most notable names are Fransiska and Lancea--which are their official names according to the official Rokko Book translation--and Berserker and Lancer, which are my attempts of giving them an actual English name.

[Geno]

What.

You have EVERY GRAPHIC?!

MUST HAVE THEM!!

And hey, I'd love to make a skin once the GFX are available!


And by the way, I think you should use the Mad stage 1 boss's real names.
It just makes more sense than making up a new one or just naming them by colour and weapon.

EDIT: Actually, could I do the Forestman skin? He IS my favourite Robot MAster from that game.

[Mister Gessert]

I'm.. having issues with making Rolling Man, well... walk. As well as some other issues.

[CHAOS_FANTAZY]

Geno, you'll find the graphical collection for Rokko Chan in your mail.  Also, of course you can do Forest-Man!

It seems pretty evident that Fransiska and Lancea have completely swept the poll; is there anything else we need to vote on?

I'm having a spot of trouble completely characterizing the 'Bots based only from their physical appearance, but I can make it work.  I'll keep trying.

To Michael712, I'm afraid I must apologize for any delay.  Hopefully I'll be able to have the spritesheet you asked for to you by tomorrow.

[Magnet Dood]

I'd be more than willing to make props for the stages! I'm good at small spriting stuff.

That being said, I'm not sure exactly how to code them, but I'll sprite some for you! Just give me ideas on what you'd like to see in the stages.

[FTX6004]

Well i will make Volcanoman then but im still working the skin i making to a hale and some fixed skins and balrog to street fighter x megaman.

[Geno]

I'm in the process of making Forestman, but I'm not very happy with the A6A4 sprite

As you can see, the head is all sorts of funky.