[OUTDATED THREAD] Class based modification (v9fh)

[Alucard]

I think the reason Chargeman is weak to Power Stone is because the size of the stones may clog up the smokestack on his head. (Not sure what it is called exactly, but you should know what I mean.)

[Davregis]

It's not much, is it?
A buffed reload while firing for Skull Barrier. This would let him deal with crowds a bit easier.
Not enough to make him OP, just a small buff. Why would you be against it?

Orange, you never placed very high with Skull that one day,no offense.

[Hallan Parva]

... So the consensus is "fix the darn PU weakness already", right?

[MusashiAA]

No.

EDIT: I haven't heard a single suggestion for a "new weakness chain". If anything, we could leave Time and Oil without weaknesses.

Still, that's hardly an important issue regarding weakness chains right now. Powered Up used that weakness chain, we're using it, deal with it.

[Fyone]

GutsMan needs to be nerfed, correct? I wrote this again since the YD team never gave an proper "OK" that GutsMan will be nerfed.

[Gumballtoid]

GutsMan needs to be nerfed, correct? I wrote this again since the YD team never gave an proper "OK" that GutsMan will be nerfed.

Yeah, he seriously needs it.
Powered Up weaknesses would be awesome, BTW.

[Davregis]

It's not much, is it?
A buffed reload while firing for Skull Barrier. This would let him deal with crowds a bit easier.
Not enough to make him OP, just a small buff. Why would you be against it?

Orange, you never placed very high with Skull that one day,no offense.

Ehh, just nerf Guts's health to a bit below Mega's.

[TheDoc]

I fail to see how Skullman's barrier has anything to do with nerfing Gutsman.

Gutsman's super arm is as devastating as the copywep version (I think), yet he has no limit to his firing ability. I suggest nerfing his RoF or damage output.

[Davregis]

I fail to see how Skullman's barrier has anything to do with nerfing Gutsman.
It has nothing, lol. It's something I care to see amended, and it came up first, so...

Gutsman's super arm is as devastating as the copywep version (I think), yet he has no limit to his firing ability. I suggest nerfing his RoF or damage output.
ROF would be best...Why make his worse then Mega's?

[TheDoc]

Gutsman's super arm is as devastating as the copywep version (I think), yet he has no limit to his firing ability. I suggest nerfing his RoF or damage output.
ROF would be best...Why make his worse then Mega's?

His RoF is the same as Mega's, his damage is the same as Mega's, AND he has unlimited of his weapon, AND he has a Gutspunch. I understand that other classes have the same damage as Mega, but this is Super Arm we're talking about. Super Arm is a very strong ranged weapon. Gutsman also has close-ranged defense with his Gutspunch.

[Davregis]

It seems I made a phrasing mistake. Perhaps it should be "I believe an ROF nerf would be best".

(EDIT) An idea came upon me while playing Power Fighters...

Nerf the GutsPunch to 50 damage per hit (No ROF nerf)
Reduce his ammo to 5 Super Arms
Give him the Arm variant in Power Fighters(No stone fragments, just a large stone)

This should balance him without making him UP.

[Gumballtoid]

do dust crusher, junk shield, and oil slider fall into the same category? i was playing with bots and found that skullman is weak to all of them, but freezeman is only weak to junk shield. is this intentional, or will this be fixed?

[Davregis]

do dust crusher, junk shield, and oil slider fall into the same category? i was playing with bots and found that skullman is weak to all of them, but freezeman is only weak to junk shield. is this intentional, or will this be fixed?

Oil lubricates skeleton
Dust dirties skeleton
^ With Junk

Junk smashes ice
???
???
Probably intentional

[GameAndWatcher]

do dust crusher, junk shield, and oil slider fall into the same category? i was playing with bots and found that skullman is weak to all of them, but freezeman is only weak to junk shield. is this intentional, or will this be fixed?

Oil lubricates skeleton
Dust dirties skeleton
^ With Junk

Junk smashes ice
???
???
Probably intentional

Isn't the Dust Crusher a Big Glob of JUNK?  I think it is, and Freeze should be weak to it, but maybe not Oil Slider.

[Hallan Parva]

I agree that Freezey Dude should be weak to Dust Crusher as well

maybe Freezey could also be weak to "OMFG YOU PUNCHED OUT MY FACE" weapons like the alt fists and Hard Knuckle

speaking of alt fists, Guts Punch shouldn't be classified as BUSTER ELEMENT