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The Ghoul's Forest / Ghouls vs Humans v3b7 Beta (beta12)- some playtesting wanted

« on: March 14, 2016, 03:52:57 PM »

So it's been a long while since any update, and some might consider it a wasted effort, but i had too much free time and decided to slowly update GVH bit by bit as a side-project to keep me busy. And it's gotten to a sizable point where it could probably be released as the next version, but it has some new technical additions which are still somewhat experimental so playtesting would reveal any problems so they can be fixed for release.

The update focuses on extra options towards teamwork, giving almost all of the classes an additional ability they can use to help their teammates (and sometimes themselves, too). A few buffs and nerfs got handed out like usual, and various general systems have been changed or improved, such as team balancing punishing team stacking more heavily with even higher buffs, should players intentionally stack the teams.
Some newly added abilities may seem a tad 'meh', but they where meant to aid your team, not make you a pro solo team wrecker. But otherwise, it's the good ol GVH you know and love (or that i ruined, but opinions vary). If you're sick of the new GVH spinoffs people keep making by all means give it a look.

Changelist:

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//GLOBAL:
*The Class Info menu can now be triggered while spectating to open up a large help menu.
It contains information about general mechanics, introduction for newbies, even lists
the required controls, some less obvious mechanics, and the second page has technical stuff
like how to play singleplayer, or basic instructions on how to host your own server.

*After those two pages, you can scroll through all the human and ghoul's class pages
without having to enter the game to see the info about that class. (Had nothing better
to do anyway, so i basically wrote a freakin' manual for GVH in there, i guess...
Though i'd imagine the screen filling with text might scare some players off.)

*Added an message on the bottom of the screen for spectators recommending new players
to take a look at the class information page, which should help them get started.
The message will only display roughly 5 times or so, for each user, before it stops.

*All Ghouls drop their power on death, which Ghostbusters can collect to gain a weapon.
(Powers won't drop if a Ghostbuster kills a Ghoul directly or if it's LMS/TLMS and there
are no Ghostbusters around to capture those powers, help keep the map clean.)
(Creeper can also snatch away fallen Ghoul's power so that human's can't use it, and
he gains 3 stun ball ammo from those, too.)

*Team Balance now gives out better buffs depending on the amount of total players.
Which should hopefully deter people from stacking the teams or power up the smaller
team to keep the battle equal.
(Basically, the larger the player count, the stronger the buffs are. Extra-powerful
buffs are also granted to the sole player in 1vs3, 1vs4, etc, matches...)
*Team balance buffs have been increased from levels 1-5 to 1-10.

*Disabled more commands which could give unintended informational or viewing advantadges.
*Achievement list and classinfo list disappear when spectating, just as they would if you died.

*Rewrote the class descriptions that can be viewed in the Class Info menu.
*Inventory Items have Tags on them now. Looks better and sometimes has a helpful description, too.
*Weapons have tags too, meaning they got better-looking names as you scrollwheel through them.
*Achievement notifications on the bottom-left (telling who achieved what) last longer now.

*Added OpenGL lights to various effects and attacks:
Steam Cannon Altfire, Lightning Arrow, Cyborg Scanner, Frostbite's breath and frost clouds,
Lightning altfire, saw and ghost trap ammo pickups, dropped Ghoul powers, ammo packs, Choke's
health orbs, Ice Fountain, Sonic Echo, Soul Blasts, and Hunter's Wind Trap and creeper's death.

*Minor campaign adjustment. TLMS matches in the campaign will now give you bot allies,
but if you die, they die as well and you lose the round. Since bots are very poor at
finding enemies to fight, and it could take minutes before they finish the match.

*Stunned bots will now be able to fight back. Bots will have their speed crippled to 0.001,
unless the flag gvh_oldbotstun is enabled. This should be a little more fitting bot behaviour...

*Added bindable key which controls wether you want to enable or disable Creeper's pop up image.
It is not bound to any key by default, so set it up to be able to use it.
(Or manually set gvh_nocreeperpopup to true or false, that was the old way of doing it.)
*Also added an bindable key that toggles useitem ability reminders and hint messages, letting
you disable them or enable them with that key. (or enable gvh_nohintsandreminders manually.)

*Models are now no longer restricted by game settings. They can be enabled at will by with
the flag gl_use_models, or whatever option use in the options menu.
(If you use models and play online/vs bots, you may want to enable the gvh_nojitterbotspaz
flag. That way Jitterskull bots won't spaz all over the map which probably looks bad with models.)

*Changed the music system in Team DeathMatch to be more flexible about who's currently winning.
It can now ping-pong between the two songs should the teams constantly one-up eachother.

//YUREI
*The Yurei fight can now be started immediately by selecting 'Flames of the Spire' as
the campaign while the Yurei Battle file is loaded into the game.
*Yurei fight made compatible with most special abilities (though the Cyborg's scanner is
disabled for that fight).
*Plenty of bugs that where fixed. This thing was always quite buggy.
*Hard mode will now trigger when Skill is set to Nightmare as well, instead of only when
the compat_nopain flag was set to true. (Except during the campaign run.)
*Fixed spawned Creepers being useless, they actually kill you now, if you get too close.
They even come equipped with a constant death radius now so you REALLY shouldn't get close to them.
*Creepers will once again use their screamers if they kill you (those can be disabled with
the same option that prevents them during regular GVH matches).
*Yurei's Lightning now has a less rediculously wide hitbox.
*Hard Mode is slightly less cheap now, some attacks disappear faster, lightning count reduced.
(It's still cheap as hell though.)
*Yurei's death is alot less buggy now, sound-wise. It's not a real loop but eh, whatever works.
*Yurei's final phase now spawns Ghouls at roughly half health, even in singleplayer.
*Fixed Yurei calling an script that wasn't an attack.
*Dying to the Yurei's Heartbeat or Haunter attack is more noticable now (in a non-scary way),
and plays a sound, too. Should be less confusing for players about why they died.

*More failsafe scripts. This should make Yurei Battle fairly stable now, but still, its's not
perfect, so make sure to host it with map voting ON, so that players can reset if the yurei is
stuck and not doing anything.


//BOTS:
*Hunter Bots will use lightning at longer ranges, and switch to fire/ice if harmed,
as well as switch to fire when stunned. Basically making them fight smarter.
*Improved agressive behaviour of Sjas bots. They'll swoop down and attack on sight.
*Jitterskull Bots, after some hacking around, have slightly better moving AI, and
will now be able to (very) slowly roam around the map. (You may panic now.)
*Ghostbuster bots will deploy Ghost Traps more often when out of ammo and fleeing.
*Cyborg bots will now use their Scanner when not busy attacking any Ghouls.
*Sjas bots occasionally use their Echolocation ability while roaming around.
*Jitterskull bots may sometimes also move sideways, this doesn't help their perception,
but it lets them get around a bit better, instead of going back and forth.
*Engineer and Hunter Bots will now only rarely drop ammo with their projectiles, instead
of all the time, considering they never run out of ammo, and it made the map a mess.


//HUMANS:
*Marine now has a Smoke Grenade which, while harmless, can obscure vision into various
areas, like tight doorways, or hiding away ambushes, humans or traps.
Reusable, but with large cooldown, max limit of 10 smoke clouds on the map.
*Marine will slow down a little when firing the Machine Gun.
*Starts with 175 Clips instead of 200.
*Machinegun and pistols will not give Creepers a pain boost on hit.
*Smoke Clouds will disappear instantly on death if the match is not LMS or TLMS.

*Hunter now has an new ability called Wind Trap. Deploys a small wind orb that will
explode and push away enemies (and allies) with second use of the useinventory button.
It has a small cooldown on placement before you can detonate it, and a cooldown before
you can place another, however.
*Hunter's Lightning Arrow is now faster, and increases it's damage output faster per
distance covered then the previous version did, damage values where unchanged though.
It also makes noise as it travels through the air, and has an impact sound.
*Only one Lightning Arrow can be fired at a time now, to ensure the damage-boosting
effect of the arrow as it travels further is not being mistakenly altered.
(Not like you'll find many maps that let you shoot that rediculously far, anyway.)
*For safety reasons, Lightning Arrows disappear after flying an extremely long distance.
*Hunter's Lightning Arrow now has a small amount of target tracking after it's been in
the air for a moment, great up/down tracking, but sluggish left/right tracking.
(It's intended to aid in long-distance sniping, by making slightly-off shots hit more often.)
*Hunter's Normal Bow is now an infinite use weapon, given how it tends to be
overshadowed by his elemental bows. Still fairly good against Sjas, though.
*Arrows last longer now regardless of which bow they where fired with.

*Cyborg now has a secondary weapon, the Scanner, which if toggled on, targets Ghouls
for you, making them easier to spot (even Creepers, but only if they're close enough).
It will also target Ghouls through walls, should they be near enough to you.
It's altfire will perform an area scan which will detect enemies through walls in a
larger radius, and sends that scan information to human allies in sight as well
(if they're not too far away), though you can't attack while doing that.
*Plasma's minimum damage is slightly higher now. (Around 20-28 damage per shot.)

*Engineer can now drop ammo packs which replenish ammo, he can deploy up to 3 big one-use
ammo packs, and he can deploy a small but re-usable one that gives less ammo.
(Only the big ones give Steam Cannon ammo, though. And only 1 ammo per pack.)
*Engineer's Nail Gun can now swap better between main fire and altfire with minimal
delays, making the altfire more useful.
*Engineer's Saw Launcher now hurts a little more (though the damage is quite random),
and fires much faster. Increased capacity, and can deploy up to 20 saw traps.
Slightly larger hitbox for launched saws, too.
*Saws, when dropped as ammo, last much longer before disappearing.
*Saws will not drop as ammo when disarmed by a Creeper.
*Saw traps can be deployed faster when holding the altfire button, similar to how the
Ghostbuster deploys his traps.
*Saws now emit light when dropped as ammo, once again. Just like arrows do.
*All of Engineer's weapons now display both his saw and steam ammo, even if they don't use it.

*Ghostbuster, besides being able to pick up fallen Ghoul's powers now, has a small
damage nerf to his Blood Spreader (from 12 per hit to 6/7 per hit). The damn thing
was capable of sweeping away several Ghouls in one go!
*Active Ghost Traps will be re-usable IF the Ghostbuster kills a Ghoul with any of them.
(Except if a Creeper has damaged the trap with his trap disarming ability.)
*Bone Cannon has recieved a small nerf. It requires 48 ammo now and has a brief cooldown
before it can be used again (you can still switch to other weapons during this).
Now you REALLY have to make those shots count.
*Sped up weapon switching a little for Ghostbuster. Less time is wasted while the gun
is off-screen now, traps will also get (un)selected a bit faster then before.
*Ghostbuster's weapons display both proton and trap ammo at the same time.

//GHOULS:
*Sjas now has an new ability, Echo-Location, which tells Sjas of nearby enemies,
even through walls, and any nearby Ghouls will also recieve this information.
It has a cooldown and Sjas needs to wait to use it again, though.
(Like the Cyborg's Scanner, but with larger, wall-piercing range. Cooldown is reduced
in half while hiding and standing still.)
*When Sjas 'hides' by standing still somewhere, projectiles can't track him, and becomes
harder to target for cyborg's regular scanning ability.
*Sjas will slow down a tiny bit if hurt by something. Should help more to keep him away.
(Various rapid-fire attacks like pistol/MG bullets, blood spreader, nails and GB's default
proton weapon will stagger Sjas less, or not at all, though, for balance's sake.)

*Creeper now has the ability to disarm traps, when using useinventory near any traps.
It should damage up to 3 traps and traps generally break after 3 hits. The ability
does have a short cooldown to it so it will take a while to deal with a pile of traps.
*Creeper will also only scream in pain from attacks, not enviromental damage (meaning you
can traverse those long and damaging creeper passages without giving away your position).
*Creeper's melee attack does a static 1000 damage to ensure non-cheating players die on hit.
*Creeper's health regeneration on kill will slowly lose it's effectiveness per kill, to
about -10 health per kill, after the first kill, up to -50 health per kill max.
(Should stop creepers from being near-indestructable killing machines, and actually
have them die after a few kills, should the Humans have an semi-decent aim).
*Undead Phoenix achievement now only triggers when you heal to 60% health or more from
5% health or less. Making it less common as creeper's healing degrades.
*It will now take a bit longer before stun ball regeneration kicks in while waiting.
*Can't be tracked by seeker projectiles anymore (like GB's Soul Blasts or Lightning Arrows).
*Creeper can pick up all types of ammo from the battlefield to sabotage the Human's ammo
supplies (you know, ghost traps, saws, arrows, etc). Can also pick up fallen Ghoul's powers.
*Takes extra damage from the altfire of Engineer's Steam Cannon, making it more effecient as
an anti-creeper defence weapon. Should roughly be on par with Marine's Grenades, now.

*Jitterskull now takes 22% extra damage from enemies while charging, until he recovers
from charging (basically until he can move again), or until he kills a Human with the charge.
*Small decrease in Jitter's melee range (his bite, not his charging range).
*Jitterskull's bot weapon can only be used by bots now (since it's full of technical BS that
would get in the way of non-bot players). If collected anyway, it replaces itself with a
regular version for players, but bots can still collect and use the bot version.

*Attack range/radius has been decreased a small bit from 58 to 48.
*Choke now starts with 125 HP instead of 150. Though he also starts with 20 Blood now.
*Choke now gains some armor upon leeching a human's health with his bite.
Will go up to 40 armor max. Acts like Blue Armor.
*Choke also now has a new ability, Blood Transfusion. At the cost of 10 Blood he will
spit out an healing item that heals for 10hp, though they don't heal above max HP.
Should Choke not have enough Blood the remaining cost will be taken from his HP instead.
Blood is gained from biting humans. Gains extra blood on kill and extra blood with exessive
healing (basically healing over 125 HP). Good for healing wounded teammates at the cost of
Choke's own health, or for small heals with blood gained from enemies.
*Satan's Sniper achievement requires a bit less distance now for it to count.
*Choke needs to land from a bit more height to play his landing sound now. (Basically
i just disabled his landing sound but kept in his grunt sound, which is a longer
distance landing sound. The tiniest of height changes will no longer make noise.)

*Frost Bite can now use useinventory to spawn Frost Clouds that, while harmless, slow down
any human that goes through them, making areas of the map far more risky to pass through.
A Frostbite can only spawn up to 2 Frost Clouds at once, and there's a hard limit of 8
on the map in total, exessive clouds will just disappear (and return the ammo).
The longer the Human is in the cloud, the stronger the slow-down effect on them.
The clouds disappear faster upon death, though (roughly 3 times faster).
*In non-TLMS or LMS matches, ice clouds will disappear instantly on death.


//FIXES:
*Cyborgs and Ghostbusters get full ammo in the titlemap. Meaning the ammo-regenerating
flashes and noises won't show up anymore during the GVH intro.
*Ghostbuster can't get weapons from Ghouls anymore while he's dead. (Sometimes it
messes with the game in strange ways.)
*Cyborg's Fuel count and Choke's health will now display properly after they get drained from
using the relevant abilities. (Still a little weird for Choke on full health but it should be
fine once he gets below 150 HP.)
*Ghost Traps should hopefully display the energy cone when they're activated now.
And they should also stay in place when landing instead of sliding away client-side.
*Campaign Title Screen was fixed. (Assuming anyone even cares about the bot campaign.)
*Fixed the 1/2 damage output from Hunter's lightning rain when it was spawned by
his arrows, instead of his lightning magic altfire. Now does intended damage.
*Getting telefragged by moving through a recently-killed bot should no longer happen
as much in singleplayer, since you'll be briefly invincible (even to telefrags) when
killing an enemy in singleplayer. (The problem is singleplayer only, fortunately.)
Bot allies and enemies won't get this treatment, though. They still telefrag eachother,
occasionally. Not worth the risk of them accidently becoming invulnerable forever.
*And many more small, forgotten adjustments and fixes to the system in general.


//UNFIXED, UNFIXABLE OR POTENTIAL BUGS:
*Cyborg's Scan and presumably also Sjas's echo cannot locate enemies if they where in the
server before you joined, until they respawn. But this should only be a minor problem in TDM.
Gamemodes like TLMS should not suffer from this problem. (Suppose that's the cost of making
all of those scripts client-side. Less server lag that way.) Presumably unfixable.

*Yurei Battle is still a tad wonky about people dieing and restarting the search for a new
target with the Heartbeat attack. But there's just so many scripts... It'll work, mostly.
But there is a small existing chance the Yurei will stop showing up, so allow for map votes
if you're hosting!

*Sometimes classes might end up with a little bit of Choke's Blood armor, while they shouldn't.
Most likely because a choke bit them just before you killed them, or something like that,
or that the game changed targets while handing out blood armor. Who knows... Not a huge problem.

*Things get really weird if you change your class via the console, after defeating the Yurei,
before the map reset occurs, it may break weapon regeneration, firing, etc, so it is adviced
to simply not do it, just spectate or die in some way before changing class.

Download:
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... beta12.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... beta11.pk3
Older versions:
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... beta11.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... beta10.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... -beta9.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... -beta9.pk3

So, by all means, give it a go and post any feedback here if you want, on what might need changing. Assuming people still care about the original GVH anymore, anyway. :P
And i'm way too lazy to try and figure out IRC again to host a BE server, anyway (wish they'd simply have a webpage for that, by now), so if anyone else wants to give it a try, go ahead and host it on BE.
There's also been improvements to the singleplayer, like better TLMS matches, improved bot AI, being able to select Flames of the Spire in the menu, and whatnot.
(Edit: And if you want to use the slightly-improved bot AI on multiplayer, set gvh_advancedbots to 1. Or gvh_superbots 1, which is similar to the other, but lets bots cheat a little with bot-only special attacks.)

Now to wait it out and see if anyone still remotely cares. :P

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Anything Goes / So, Microsoft just bought Minecraft for like 2.5 Billion...

« on: September 15, 2014, 02:33:42 PM »

Normally i dont post all that much lately but this is probably something people want to hear about. (Not sure if Anything Goes is the right place, instead of Gaming Discussion, but its about MC being bought, not played, so...)

So yeah it's been rumored for a while and now i've read it here.

I suppose this means alot of pirating, people making backups, and illegal clients which avoid whatever evil nickle & diming/microtransactions/mod-killing updates Microsoft is bound to try and throw at it. Or just plain horrible overpriced DLC things.
Like for all we know the game's gonna end up with the player massively nerfed and oh, you've having trouble? Why not buy Iron Armor for 50 cents? Or replenish your hunger for 10 cents.

God forbid they're gonna (try to, anyway) kill off modding, so they can push out their own premium priced stuff rather then the rare but free good ol updates of old. Or maybe they'll turn current or future accounts from pay-once to 5/10/15 a month subscription-only, depending on what they can get away with legally...

Just consider, they're gonna have to find SOME WAY to earn that 2.5 Billion back....
Oh this is gonna suck... Hm, perhaps they're gonna try and earn money off of the (normally) free online play, too.
Ah well its all just theories and rumors, so far, but remember, they gotta earn 2.5 Billion somehow. I expect some very unwelcome changes.

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Help & Editing / Any way to teleport onto a player without telefragging him?

« on: August 30, 2014, 04:50:44 PM »

And without having to change the player in any major way like toggling the player's SHOOTABLE/NOBLOCKMAP flags on or off, which would briefly make them unhittable and thats way too much of an undesirable side-effect. Couldnt fit any more useful info into the title, really. :P

Right now, i'm trying to make a thing where a camera will continuously teleport on top of a player, basically following them around, for this purpose i am limited seemingly to simply teleporting the target camera, as continuously making a new camera would probably mess heavily with its quality. And unless i change the player's flags such as SHOOTABLE or NOBLOCKMAP, the player always gets telefragged, and without the +TELESTOMP flag on the camera, teleporting it seems to not work at all, as it considers the player to be an solid obstacle in the way regardless of the fact its being teleported ABOVE the player. And the camera is entirely devoid of any hitboxes or solid-ness, and such.

So, anyone know of a way to fix that, a way to maybe enforce the teleport, maybe without the +TELESTOMP while not telefragging the player?

The camera actor in question:

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ACTOR PCameraAutomaticClose
{
  Health 24
  Radius 10
  Height 20
  Mass 99999999999999
  +SOLID
  -SHOOTABLE
  +NOTARGET
  +DONTBLAST
  +NOTIMEFREEZE
  +NOBLOOD
  +NORADIUSDMG
  +NOGRAVITY
  +FLOAT
  +LOOKALLAROUND
  +INVULNERABLE
  +NODAMAGE
  +DONTMORPH
  -WINDTHRUST
  -ISMONSTER
  -FRIENDLY
  +NOTELEOTHER
  +SPECTRAL
  +TELESTOMP
  +DONTSPLASH
  DeathSound "world/barrelx"
  Obituary "%o was camera shy."
  scale 1.0
  CameraHeight 20
  renderstyle normal
  alpha 1.0
  States
  {
  Spawn:
    PMC7 A 0
PMC7 A 0 A_ChangeFlag("SOLID", 0)
PMC7 A 0 A_JumpIf(ACS_ExecuteWithResult(278,0)==1,"Death") //Deletes camera if 1.
PMC7 A 0 A_JumpIf(z-floorz<10,"GoUp")
PMC7 A 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 A 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 A 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 B 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 B 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 B 0 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 AAAA 1 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
PMC7 BBBB 1 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
    Loop
  GoUp:
PMC7 A 0 ThrustThingZ(0, 4, 0, 1)
PMC7 AAAA 1 A_LookEx (LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK, 0, 0, 0, 360, "See")
Goto Spawn
  See:
    PMC7 AAABBB 1 A_FaceTarget
PMC7 A 0 A_ClearTarget
Goto Spawn
  Death:
    TNT1 A 0 A_Scream
TNT1 A 0 A_ChangeFlag("NOGRAVITY", 1)
    MISL B 8 bright
MISL C 6 bright
MISL D 4 bright
Stop
  }
}

Related scripts:

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Int StopLoop = 0;
Int RunTestOnce = 0;
Script 276 (Int TestTarget, Int TestCameraTid, Int TestHeight)
{
If(RunTestOnce==1){Terminate;}
RunTestOnce=1;

If(TestCameraTid<=0){RunTestOnce=0;Terminate;}
If(TestTarget<=0){RunTestOnce=0;Terminate;}
StopLoop=0;
Delay(1);
Log(s:"Target spot = ",d:TestTarget+2000,s:".");

 While(StopLoop<=0){//START LOOP
 If(GetActorProperty(TestTarget, APROP_HEALTH)<=0||GetActorProperty(TestCameraTid, APROP_HEALTH)<=0){Log(s:"276 Terminating. Dead camera/target.");StopLoop=1;RunTestOnce=0;Terminate;}
 
 Spawn("TeleportDest2", getactorx(TestTarget), getactory(TestTarget), getactorz(TestTarget)+80.0, TestTarget+2000, GetActorAngle(TestCameraTid));
 TeleportOther(TestCameraTid, TestTarget+2000, 0);Delay(1);Thing_Remove(TestTarget+2000);
 }//END LOOP
 
 Log(s:"Reached script end.");
 Delay(1);
 RunTestOnce=0;
 Terminate;
}

Its still a WIP thing, so dont mind the messy look of it all.
I guess if this doesnt work out atleast i can try to make it work for more suitable target actors...

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Help & Editing / [BUG] Reached map-building limit? Physics stopped working.

« on: February 22, 2014, 06:44:24 PM »

So i just came across a pretty spectacular issue. While i was building rooms for a sort of randomized dungeon project, i just kept building them in a long line, with the intention to make copies of them and put them below their original room (so i could have multiples of the same room in the dungeon). So far this is the entire grid of the map, and what i've used of it so far:

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For some reason, the last two rooms reached some kind of limit and the walls where acting all non-existant, as if i had noclip on, but glitchier.
When i moved the 2 rooms below the long line of rooms, it worked again (as seen in this picture, the selected rooms are the ones that where affected and moved):

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Edit: Only those two rooms where affected however, the rest of the map worked regardless.

So, anyone got an idea on how to be able to build past this part without physics just giving up? Or am i limited to 1/4 of the editor's total grid space...? That would certainly make things alot harder when it comes to making a large randomly built dungeon...
I'm using Doom Builder (2) version 2.1.2.1553, with Zandronum 1.2, for this particular project.

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Projects & Creative / [Cheat/RCON Tool] Player Manipulator (V16) (Final?)

« on: January 15, 2014, 04:33:15 PM »

Well i've put this together over some time to mess with friends but i'd figure i'd release it for more public use too. Its one big ACS-based wad that can bypass sv_cheats to manipulate players in various ways in-game. You could mess with players, monsters, or map itself in various ways, or use it to cheat despite sv_cheats being off, or even use it for some debugging and/or testing. It now also has a command to create and set translations, which so far was quite handy for making translations without having to switch between stuff all the time and try every change on the fly. :P

I guess here's a list of all its commands and functions (its fairly long):

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(This is a copy of the small command list also found inside the file.)

-----**REALLY important commands**-----

allowcheats [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
(Allows clientside cheat commands.)

keepcheats (CLIENTSIDE ONLY!!)
(Lets you keep cheats until disconnecting/spectating.)

clearmutators (reset all mutators to 0)

listcommands [0/9] (9 = all)
OR
listcommands[catagory_name]
(Shows a list of commands in-game.)


-----**Useful TID-finding commands**-----

playertids (shows TIDS on server log)

**CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:
changemytid [new_tid] (changes your TID)
showplayertids (show everyone's TID as a list)
showmytid (to know your own TID)
showtargettid (point crosshair at target and use this
to find out their TID)


-----**Teleportation related commands**-----

teleportplayer [who] [where] [delay? (optional)]
createbeacon [on who] [beacon TID] [on death only? (optional)]
beaconrespawn [beacon_1] [beacon_2] [beacon_3] (all optional)
flashstep [who] [type] [distance]
teleporttotarget [target] [who/where (destination)] [delay (optional)]
createportal [who/where] [portal TID] [Dest. TID]
setportalcolor [portal TID] [color ID]
OR
setportalcolor[color_name] [portal TID]

-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:
flashstepme [type] [distance]
teleporttome [who/where]
teleportmetotarget [who/where]
createbeaconhere [beacon tid] [1 = on death (optional)]


-----**Item/weapon/powerup commands**-----

giveitem [who] [what] [give/take item (optional)]
OR
giveitem[item_name] [who] [1 = take item (optional)]
giveweapon [who] [weapon_ID] [1 = ammo only (optional)]
OR
giveweapon[weapon_name] [who] [1 = ammo only (optional)]
givepower [who] [power_ID]
OR
givepower[name] [who]
takepower [who] [power_ID]
OR
takepower[name] [who]
spawnitem [where] [item_ID] [spawned item's TID (optional)]
OR
spawn[item_name]at [where] [spawned item's TID (optional)]
spawnitem2 [where] [item_ID] [spawned item's TID (optional)]
OR
spawn[item_name]2 [where] [spawned item's TID (optional)]

deleteitems [item_TID (optional)] (leave empty or 0 for default)

-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:
givemeweapon [weapon ID] [1 = ammo_only (optional)]
OR
givemeweapon[weapon_name] [1 = ammo_only (optional)]
givemeitem [item ID] [amount] [1 = take item (optional)]
OR
givemeitem[item_name] [amount] [1 = take item (optional)]
givemepower [power ID] [1 = take power (optional)]
OR
givemepower[power item name] [1= take power (optional)]


-----**monster-related and summoning commands**-----

spawnmonster [where] [type] [monster's TID (optional)]
OR
spawn[monster_name]at [where] [monster's TID (optional)]
spawnmonster2 [where] [type] [monster's TID (optional)]
OR
spawn[monster_name]2 [where] [monster's TID (optional)]
spawnfriend [where] [monster_type] [1 = delete on death (optional)]
OR
spawnfriend[monster_name] [where] [1 = delete on death (optional)]
spawnobject [who] [object_type]
OR
spawnobject[name] [who]

resurrectactor [TID]
raisetarget [where] [0/3]
OR
raisetarget[team_name] [where]
deletemonsters [TID (optional)] (leave empty or 0 for default)
deleteobjects [object_type]
OR
deleteobjects[object_name]
sethate [hater] [hate_target] [type (optional)]
toggleactor [monster TID] [1/0 (on/off)]
setmarineweapon [marine_TID] [weapon ID]
OR
setmarineweaponto[weapon_name] [marine_TID]

-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:

spawnfriendme [monster_ID] [1 = delete on death (optional)]
OR
spawnfriendme[monster_name] [1 = delete on death (optional)]
raisemytarget [0/3]
OR
raisemytarget[name]


-----**Other normal game commands/cheats**-----

setautoaim [target] [1/0 (on/off)] [0/11 (type)]
OR
setautoaim[type] [target]
killplayer [who/what]
setnewhealth [who] [new_health]
setnewspeed [who] [values 1 to 160 or -1 to -9]
godmode [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
setflight [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
setnotarget [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
freezeplayer [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
disappear [who] [1/0]
newalpha [who] [0 to 10]
setgravity [who] [values -1 to -10, 0 or 1 to 160]
healplayer [who] [amount (optional)]
setflag [who] [flag_ID] [1/0 (on/off)]
OR
setflag[flag_name] [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
setpoint [what team] [points] [1 = do not announce (optional)]
(Accepts minus/negative points too!)
setblastradius [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
projectilering [who] [projectile] [proj. speed (optional)]
OR
projectilering[proj. name] [proj. speed (optional)]
banishplayer [target] [banishhealth] [new health]
changeweapon [target] [weapon ID] [0/3 (type)] (Not in MM version)
OR
changeweapon[name] [target] [0/3 (type)] (Not in MM version)
fireprojectile [target] [projectile ID] [amount]
OR
fire[projectile_name] [target] [amount]
fireprojectile2 [target] [projectile ID] [amount]
OR
fire2[projectile_name] [target] [amount]
banishplayerloop [target] [banishhealth] [new health]
-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:

setmyautoaim [1/0 (on/off)] [0/11 (type)]
OR
setmyautoaim[type]
changecamera [target] [1 = revert on movement (optional)]
addcameraright [target] [1/4 (size)]
OR
addcameraR [target] [1/4 (size)]
addcameraleft [target] [1/4 (size)]
OR
addcameraL [target] [1/4 (size)]
removecameraright
OR
removecameraR
removecameraleft
OR
removecameraL
godmodeme [1/0 (on/off)]
setflightme [1/0 (on/off)]
setnotargetme [1/0 (on/off)]
setmyhealth [amount]
setmyspeed [-1 to -9, 0, or 1 to 160]
setmyflag [flag_ID] [1/0 (on/off)]
OR
setmyflag[flag_name] [1/0 (on/off)]
healme [amount (optional)]
disappearme [1/0]
setmyalpha [0/10]
setmygravity [-1 to -10 or 1 to 40]
setmyblastradius [1/0 (on/off)]
projectileringme [projectile] [proj. speed (optional)]
OR
projectileringme[name] [projectile speed (optional)]
banishme [banishhealth] [new health]
fireprojectileme [0/1 (type)] [projectile ID] [amount]
OR
fireme[projectile_name] [amount]
AND
fire2me[projectile_name] [amount]
banishmeloop [banishhealth] [new health]


-----**Advanced/information/debug commands**-----

changetid [oldtid] [newtid]
newdefaulthealth [amount]
newdefaultspeed [-1 to -9 or 1 to 160]
(Make sure to activate the cvar/flags first! Resets upon map change.)

callscript [who] [script_number] [arg_1 (optional)]
stopscript [script_number] [map (0 for current map)]
setspecial [who] [special_type] [special_arg]
OR
setspecial[special_type] [who] [special_arg]
actorinfo [who] [1 = advanced info (optional)]
actorstate [who] [state_ID] [1 = force exactstate (optional)]
OR
actorstate[state_name] [who] [1 = force exactstate (optional)]
tellhealth [who] [1/0 (on/off)]
checkforactors [min_TID] [max_TID] [0/3 - settings (optional)]
cleartargetinventory [TID] [1 = give basic wep (optional)]

changeactortranslation [who] [1/14 = use a slot (optional)]
settranslation1/10 [range_start] [range_end]
storeactortranslation [slot number (1/14)]
liststoredtranslations
listcurrenttranslations

pingtarget [target] [1/10 (0 = default)]
pingtargetrange [amount (0 = always)] [start_range] [end_range]
stoppingrange
setactorfade [target] [0/10 (intensity)], [0/3 (delay)]
clearactorfade [target]
setfadecolors  
setsectordamage [sector] [DMG] [damage_type]
OR
setsectordamage[damagetype_name] [sector] [DMG]
opendoor [sector] [speed (optional)]
raisedoor [sector] [speed (optional)]
closedoor [sector] [speed (optional)]
setsectorreflection [sector] [floor] [ceiling]
setcolors  
setsectorcolor [sector] [desaturation (optional)]
setsectorrangecolor [range start] [range end] [desat (optional)]
setsectorrangefade [range start] [range end]
setsectorfade [sector]
setsectorfriction [sector] [friction]
setfloorscroll1 [sector] [X-scroll] [Y-scroll]
setfloorscroll2 [sector] [X-scroll] [Y-scroll]
setfloorscroll3 [sector] [X-scroll] [Y-scroll]
setceilingscroll [sector] [X-scroll] [Y-scroll]

setsectorwind [sector] [wind] [angle]
setsectorcurrent [sector] [strenght] [angle]
raisefloorbyvalue [sector] [value] [speed]
lowerfloorbyvalue [sector] [value] [speed]
raiseceilingbyvalue [sector] [value] [speed]
lowerceilingbyvalue [sector] [value] [speed]
lowerfloortolowest [sector] [speed]
lowerfloortonearest [sector] [speed]
raisefloortohighest [sector] [speed]
raisefloortonearest [sector] [speed]
raiseceilingtonearest [sector] [speed]
raiseceilingtolowest [sector] [speed]

-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:

tracktarget [target]
tracktargetpersist [target]
cleartarget
setmystate [state_ID] [1 = force exactstate (optional)]
OR
setmystate[state_name] [1 = force exactstate (optional)]
callscriptme [script_number] [script_arg_1 (optional)]
startsectordebug [start range] [end range] (both optional)
stopsectordebug
clearmyinventory [1 = give basic weapon (optional)]


-----**Target-based commands:**-----
(NOTE: They trigger on who the target player/monster is
looking at/chasing, not the target itself!! Except cssetteam/cssetmyteam.)

cssetteam [who] [new team]
csshowtargettid [who]
csaddtargettolist [who] [new_tid (optional)]
cskilltarget [who]
csdeletetarget [who]
cshealtarget [who] [amount (optional)]
cschangetargettid [who] [new_tid]
cscallscriptontarget [who] [script_number]
csbanishtarget [who]

-CLIENTSIDE COMMANDS:

cssetmyteam [new_team]
csshowmytargettid
csaddmytargettolist [new_tid (optional)]
cskillmytarget
csdeletemytarget
cshealmytarget [amount (optional)]
cschangemytargettid [new_tid]
cscallscriptonmytarget [script_number]
csbanishmytarget


-----**Server cvars/flags**-----

pma_enabletids (allows this file to give players TIDs.)
pma_nomutators
pma_removebeacons
pma_removeportals
pma_preventbotdrown
pma_banishidlebots
pma_setnewdefaultspeedbots
pma_setnewdefaultspeedall
pma_setnewdefaulthealthbots
pma_setnewdefaulthealthall
pma_keepweaponnames (clientside-only)



-----**Gameplay Mutators**-----
(These affect players as they enter/(re)spawn at the level.)

global:
mut_callscript1, 2, 3 ... [0/1]
mut_stopscript1, 2, 3 ... [0/1]
mut_pingtargetrangeamount [value] (Amount of 'pings'. 255 for forever.)
mut_pingtargetrangestart [value] (Starting TID range.)
mut_pingtargetrangeend [value] (Ending TID range.)

player-only:
mut_clearinventory [0/2] (1 = No def. weapon, 2 = def. weapon.)
mut_give[item_name] [0/1]
mut_give[weapon_name] [0/1]
mut_givepower[power_name] [0/2] (1 = Give on (re)spawn, 2 = keep permanently.)
mut_newhealth [health]
mut_newspeed [-1 to -9, or 1 to 160]
mut_flight [0/1]
mut_notarget [0/1]
mut_newalpha [0/10]
mut_disappear [0/1]
mut_setflag[flag_name] [0/2] (1 = True, 2 = False.)
mut_blastradius [0/1]
mut_banishplayer [health] (Health to banish at.)
mut_banishhealth [health] (New health when banished.)
mut_forceweapon[weapon_name] [0/1]
mut_banishplayerloop [health] (Health to banish at.)
mut_banishhealthloop [health] (New health when banished.)
mut_setautoaim[type] [0/1] (Note: Requires beefy server or low max playercount.)

bot-only:
mutbot_clearinventory [0/2] (1 = No def. weapon, 2 = def. weapon.)
mutbot_give[item_name] [0/1]
mutbot_give[weapon_name] [0/1]
mutbot_givepower[power_name] [0/2] (1 = Give on (re)spawn, 2 = keep permanently.)
mutbot_newhealth [health]
mutbot_newspeed [-1 to -9, or 1 to 160]
mutbot_flight [0/1]
mutbot_notarget [0/1]
mutbot_newalpha [0/10]
mutbot_disappear [0/1]
mutbot_setflag[flag_name] [0/2] (1 = True, 2 = False.)
mutbot_blastradius [0/1]
mutbot_banishplayer [health] (Health to banish at.)
mutbot_banishhealth [health] (New health when banished.)
mutbot_forceweapon[weapon_name] [0/1]
mutbot_banishplayerloop [health] (Health to banish at.)
mutbot_banishhealthloop [health] (New health when banished.)
mutbot_setautoaim[type] [0/1] (Note: Requires beefy server or low max playercount.)

I'm guessing this would have its uses in co-op wads as well, or plain messing around in other wads. Being able to teleport to your co-op partner is probably reasonably handy.
DEFINITELY read the readme inside the file first before proceeding, its fairly technical in how it works, even while it now has many user-friendly commands, you'll still need to learn WHAT they do, and what the inputs are. :P
NOTE: Make sure you load this PK3 file last, so in the event of script overlapping, only this file's scripts will have a few overlaps, which means some functions wont work (properly). This is better then the alternative of having this file overlap other scripts instead which may break all sorts of things.

Edit: As of version 16, gameplay mutators have been added, which can be used to alter gameplay massively. Like giving everyone flight, changing gameplay-relevant flags (like disabling picking up things), adjustments to speed and health, and giving items/powers/weapons, or even forcing players to use a specific weapon. Or maybe make them invisible(-ish) or teleport away & heal at a set health or lower, which can be abused into a infinite loop until they get instagibbed.

Links:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/pw4ja ... yerm16.pk3
BE Mirror: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=playerm16.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?343
This should work on most things, if not everything. Still, stuff may happen, scripts may have overlapping numbers or whatever, which stops commands from properly functioning.

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9i7di ... rm16mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=playerm16mm.pk3 (I did not upload this one myself, someone else did it before i could, so it may be an inaccurate version).
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?344
Use this with MegaMan 8-Bit Deathmatch, obviously. NOTE: You dont need to enable pma_enabletids for an MM8BDM server. But you can leave it active if you want, it should have no effect.

IC Version: None for V16
BE Mirror: None for V16
Wadhost: None for V16
You probably dont need this. Its made to be compatible with the Internal Conflict doom mod. Its not an MM8BDM mod. It has a few IC-specific commands the other wads dont have, but they're useless outside of IC. Also, it adds a shitload of bots (and some bot support) anyway, so avoid using it with anything but IC.

Older version(s):

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Version 15:
Normal Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/gmgib ... yerm15.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?332

MM8BDM Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/5hwh3 ... rm15mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?333

Version 14:
Normal Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/4isvg ... yerm14.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?329

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rc4kf ... rm14mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?330

Version 13:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dddpx ... yerm13.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?326

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9zgka ... rm13mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?327

Version 12:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/nq9os ... yerm12.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm12.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?304

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zkxda ... rm12mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm12mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?306

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/53f6u ... rm12ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm12ic.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?305

Version 9:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/i5fxm ... ayerm9.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm9.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?297

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1ar3q ... erm9mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm9mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?299

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/an5co ... erm9ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm9ic.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?298

Version 7:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/p7i9w ... ayerm7.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm7.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?291

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2ub5c ... erm7mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm7mm.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?290

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/h9az2 ... erm7ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm7ic.pk3
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/download.php?view.289

Version 6:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/psg6c ... ayerm6.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm6.pk3

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/g0ur4 ... erm6mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm6mm.pk3

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dd4o4 ... erm6ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm6ic.pk3

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Version 5:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/m1jaw ... ayerm5.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm5.pk3

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9ga2c ... erm5mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm5mm.pk3

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/utvke ... erm5ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm5ic.pk3

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Version 4:
Normal version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uzupe ... ayerm4.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm4.pk3

MM8BDM version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dho8m ... erm4mm.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm4mm.pk3

IC Version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3q8np ... erm4ic.pk3
BE Mirror: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/playerm4ic.pk3

Version 16 - With extra hax, autoaim, and general rcon-cheating:
(Possibily the final version. I dont know what else to add at this rate, besides bugfixes.)

-Added setautoaim command and its named variants. Works as you'd expect, can be set to aim at
targets aquired by tracktarget for double the hax! Also supports teams.
-Changed 'tracktarget' into two commands, the regular tracktarget and tracktargetpersist,
which is like the old function but its now like this in order to support autoaim commands.
(Oh that took alot of messing around to get working...)
-The command banishplayer now accepts 0 as an input to banish ALL players.
-Improved autoaim since first implementation in many ways.
-Added ability to spawn weapons via spawn[weapon]2 or spawn[weapon]at, and the
ability to spawn ALL weapons at once.
-Added changeweapon [target] [weapon] [type] command, for switching or forcing weapons on players.
-Ping commands, when used on players, now show a color appropiate to their team,
as well as showing dark-green for no-team players and brown for non-players.
-Added forceweapon commands. Should be handy for bots, i suppose, supports doom/ST weapons.
-Added fireprojectile, fireprojectile2, and fireprojectileme commands.
-Added gameplay mutators, changes player's properties, flags, etc upon (re)spawning.
(Like forcing everyone to use a specific weapon, or giving everyone drain/regeneration.)
-Added looping versions of banishplayer and banishme, keeps going until they die.

---

Well thats about it, i dont know where to put it elsewhere. This seems like the right spot. If it doesnt belong here i'd rather have the post moved then deleted though, quite a pain to organize this all together.
Edit: Uploaded the files to BestEver, i suppose that should do the trick...

6

Help & Editing / ACS: Any reliable way to count Team Members?

« on: May 16, 2013, 09:04:59 PM »

Figured i'd ask after looking around, the functions to count the amount of people in team Blue and Red existed in Skulltag, but this function seems to have been removed in Zandronum, and without alot of messing around with integers or whatever you call em constantly to keep track of the current amount of players for each team, i'm not quite sure if its as doable anymore.

Perhaps anyone know an simpler way to do it? Or am i just gonna have to make a brute-force script that constantly updates itself to know how many players each team has? Suppose i'll need the practice of handling and doing math with various integers anyway.

7

The Ghoul's Forest / Trying to update. Need your input!

« on: October 03, 2012, 10:59:36 AM »

Given the current situation, i'd figure i'd try and update GVH again in hopes it'll become popular again. Only problem is, there's hardly any ideas to warrant an update! No critical bugs as far as im aware to get rid of, and only a handfull of potential changes.

I'll list a few ideas here that are likely making it into the next version, by all means give some input about them if you got any to share. Reasons for these changes are listed as well. Keep an eye out for the list as i'll keep adding things to the list if anything else comes up.

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Humans:
Engineer - Saws, when 'expired', tripped over, or used up in an attack become ammo, similar to the Hunter's arrows, but with a 25% chance to break. (1)
Cyborg - (WIP) The fuel system might be revamped to have around 75 fuel max, regenerate fuel a bit slower, up to 75, increased costs of 6 to dash normally and 10 to dash upwards and 2 units of fuel used to fly normally per... 'tic'/button press. (2)
Ghost Buster - Ghouls killed now simply give him the weapon so he can switch freely between default weapon and various upgrades. They still share ammo and are bound to new keys. (5)
Ghost Buster's useitem button will now sacrifice his currently equipped upgrade weapon to gain 100 ammo and switches back to the default weapon. Alt-fire, now that upgrading is automatic, is now set to switch to the Ghost Traps. (8)
Oh, and killing a Ghoul while you already had its upgrade will net you 100 ammo instead. Similar to how you could say, kill a Sjas, upgrade, kill the other Sjas and upgrade for a quick refill.
Ghouls:
Jitterskull - Attack range is reduces to about 3/5 of the original range when attacking recently after having 'teleported'/moved. Thus reducing the effective 'death zone' around a Jitterskull while its in action, forcing it to corner or close in on a target to kill it. (3)
Jitterskull's 'chewing' delay after killing a foe has been halved. His regular delay after an attack is also reduced a bit, making him able to attack a bit faster. (6)
Sjas - Slightly increased attack range from 115 to 123. (7)
Choke - Also slightly increased range from 52 to 65 (7) (WIP)
Other:
Trap-Tastic! achievement to 4 Ghost Trap kills. (4)

The reasons why:

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(1) - Engineer in its current state is rather... mediocre. Both in offensive combat and that he's relatively useless once he runs out of both Saws and coal for his Steam Cannon. Hence the idea of having these replenish, wether he'll use them to keep firing Hunter-style, or keep installing traps, if the Ghouls dont take him out as he recovers the saws.

(2) - At the suggestion of a friend who complained about both the lack of freedom and that you're basically tied to the ground with little to no defence against fast and anti-air targets save for shooting them this was suggested. Still being worked on, the greatest risk would be that the Cyborg just recovers too fast and whittles his enemies down endlessly while remaining untouched.

(3) - Jitterskull always has been proven to be quite effective in most scenarios, mostly due to his beyond average range shared with the ability to instantly kill his enemies with one good hit. This should make things plain more fair for the Humans, but still allow Jitterskull to do his job of intercepting or cornering Humans. Though it makes him less viable in large open areas. Testing proved this to work in 1 vs 1, while there werent any resources to test with larger groups in theory it should work just fine. Maybe this will fix the Jitterskull spam issue as well.

(4) - Hardly ever saw anyone score FIVE kills with it, at most 3, or 4 rarely.

(5) - The Ghostbuster's upgraded weapons where rarely better then his default gun, and often more ammo-consuming if they where, or specialized otherwise. This should make him more viable for offensive purposes, instead of mostly camping with Ghost Traps. Not to mention, he has to earn those extra weapons, so it should be relatively fair. He only gains ammo if he already has the weapon he can obtain from the Ghoul he killed.
Bound at: 3 (Echo, as it feels like a shotgun), 4 (Blood, like a machinegun?), 5 (Soul, same as 4?), 6(Bone, like a railgun), 7 (Ice, its here due to having no comparable weapon)
Still being worked on, aka its a WIP. Also a suggestion from a friend.

(6) - In cooperation with the range nerf, this should make him easier to keep at bay, but still as dangerous as always up close, and remain viable in large fights by not being slown down too long. Mostly a friend's idea.

(7) - The range increase on Sjas should make things a tad better in the larger Human maps while keeping the same results in smaller maps. It should also help Choke a bit with damaging targets a bit more while they are on the run or actively fighting him.
Edit: Seems the range increase for Choke needs further work.

(8) - This isnt much different from what the altfire and useinventory did before. Should allow the Ghost Buster to sacrifice a weapon if unable to hide, shoot and guard himself with traps. And having altfire make him switch to the Ghost Traps makes it relatively easy to set up Ghost Traps, as they also use altfire to deploy the traps while regular fire activates them.

If you have any suggestions to improve these ideas or ideas of your own, who knows. Know that i cant accept every idea though, it might go against the nature of the game, or simply be to cheap or too much of a nerf, or such things.
Edit: Oh and its probaly not too usefull to ask for major map changes. Anything small or a fix, sure. But i doubt map owners would be pleased about big changes without their permission.

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General Gaming Discussion / Frozen Synapse

« on: April 05, 2012, 08:41:44 PM »

The Steam Store has some information, screenshots, and even two videos.
Its a strategy game employing turn-based mechanics but mixing it up by having both turns execute simultaneously.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/98200 ... uggest__13

So yeah... Anyone else played this game, i wonder?
Also, damn, this game is relentless, took me like 3 tries to beat the 3rd mission due to the escort dieing all the time, and the supposed escort's 'bodyguards' not firing their machineguns even if it meant they saved the world, instantly! Though they're not trying to soak up bullets either...

Makes me wonder how hard the non-escort missions are gonna get. Also, DAMN, the game's on sale today and i bought it merely hours before it became cheaper. God damn poor luck on that one, could have bought another game off of the credit card voucher if i was later with it...

So far its pretty good tactical fun atleast. Also got a copy that came along with the purchase that can be given to a friend but i wouldnt know any that like strategy games, so i'll just keep it till i bump into a good friend who does, i suppose.

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Help & Editing / Images refuse to be transparant!

« on: January 26, 2012, 10:48:57 PM »

Here's what i did.

I ripped some weapon images from MM8BDM, and recoloured them with the color of another weapon (trying to make a custom weapon, using various frames but the same color, here).

I load them all up in IrfanView individually and save them with white as the transparant color. I cram them into the WAD file (its no PK3 dictory) but Slade refuses to acknolege the transparancy in those images, and it shows white around them.

Now what the hell am i doing wrong here, so far i checked the white isnt subtle differences of white anymore, and thus not different colors, its all one big white empty space now, and could someone maybe succesfully convert these images individually with transparancy if the solution isnt dead-obvious. Pretty sure it used to work before, oh well... Oh, and im using the PNG format here. Maybe it hates that one.

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/glkha0.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/glkhc0.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/glkhd0.png/

Hm, their transparancy works fine here though... Maybe its something with Slade, oh well, hope anyone can figure this one out. Does adding these images to a wad work for anyone else regarding transparancy? Maybe im doing something massively wrong, heh.

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Anything Goes / The Downfall of the Free Internet Topic - SOPA back as CISPA

« on: January 23, 2012, 04:24:07 PM »

Now before you might shout "duplicate tread!", this one is made for roughly all the things that are going on lately that are reducing our abilities, freedom, or enjoyment, such as the SOPA, PIPA and whatever bills, and other related actions such as what happened to Megaupload, and so on.

And considering the previous one was locked, im personally thinking a general topic for all these things should work out, as a general topic would probaly be better suited to this then cramming it all in the SOPA topic, and i suppose it doesnt need to be unlocked in case this one is more or less approved.

Now for the actual subject i found; It would seem various upload sites are bracing themselves for impact, while unclear i heard Megaupload's owner got jailed, too. Here's a list i found in one of the posts on the topic linked below:

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List of Closed or Disabled File Sharing Sites

    Megaupload Closed - Owner get Jailed

    Wupload is Smart Early Closed its Affiliate Program

    Fileserve removed it's affiliate page, because USA/FBI thinks that a legal part of their TOS is not enough to protect them, where users are responsible for their own content, and not filehost itself. Also, their thread disappeared from WJunction.

    FileJungle Deleting Massive Files and still not paying its affiliates (Same Owner of Fileserve)

    Uploadstation Same Owner of Fileserve and same as Filejungle

    Filesonic closes it's affiliate program (You can no longer download files unless you own them)

    VideoBB closed it's affiliate program.

    Filepost started suspending accounts with infringing material and not yet paying members

    Uploaded.to not available in U.S. anymore Banned US IP

    Videozer - No affiliate/make money page

    EnterUpload Redirecting to Luxury.Net

    However, the world's second largest file sharing website Rapishare said in a recent interview that "File hosting itself is a legitimate business." and that "We're not concerned or scared about the raid". So far, SendSpace and MediaFire haven't made any move regarding this matter either

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Pretty much found it all on this topic, seems accurate:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... gin?page=1

It seems SOPA or no SOPA, they're shutting down well-liked internet sites here and there, or so people expect them to do, soon.

Edit: This seems to be a more in-depth version of the list on its own page.
http://tumichael.com/internet-marketing ... es-closed/

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Anything Goes / EDIT: The SOPA topic: the end of the Internet as we know it?

« on: December 16, 2011, 05:44:27 PM »

So i just found this on Youtube and it worries me...
Edit: Well it might not have passed yet according to some of the comments now. Still frightening.

Or click here to see it on youtube. If the Government didnt remove it yet. :P

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Text version taken from the video description in likely event it gets removed:
Citizens of the United States.

We are ANONYMOUS.

There is a new bill that the United States government has successfully passed. It is called the Stop Online Piracy Act, or (SOPA) for short. Also known as The Protect IP Act of 2011. The US Congressional Budget Office estimates that implementation of the bill would cost the federal government 47 million dollars through 2016. Translated into plain english, It will cost tax payers 47 million dollars over the next 4 years.
The SOPA act will censor you from accessing certain websites and block all access to other areas of the internet that the United States government does not want you to access.

The SOPA act essentually means, that even if you make a video of your child playing or singing and you have music playing in the background, or video on TV, you are breaking the law, and the government will order the websites that host your content to censor your content because of their new bill. Or if you visit websites that are on servers not in the United States you will be blocked so that you cannot access them.

Ask yourselves, Who really owns the internet?

The answer is simple: no one actually owns the Internet, and no single person, organization or government controls the Internet in its entirety. It is more of a concept than an actual tangible entity, and the Internet relies on a physical infrastructure that connects networks to other networks. There are many organizations, corporations, governments, schools, private citizens and service providers that all own pieces of the infrastructure that make up the internet, but there is no one entity that owns it all. How can the US government decide to block access to parts of the internet that the US government does not even own? The SOPA act is a direct violation to people's right to freedom of knowlege and information, And for that violation the United States government is a disgrace to the land of the free, The free that every United States soldier has fought or died for. The United States government is essentually telling the people of the United States that they are free to do as the government tells them. If people do not follow their rules they will arrest them for making an attempt to learn. But the government will tell the media that these people are getting arrested for acts of treason, domestic terrorism, or internet piracy.
As for the United States government. Who gave you the right to regulate the people's right to think outside the box and use the internet as they see fit? If we cut off global internet, shouldn't we also cut off all foreign affairs? Should we hinder globalization completely? Perhaps all other World Trade Centers are acts of terrorism by existing, as they use the Internet for commerce. The ambiguity of this bill should terrify you.

This video likely will not last long on Youtube. As long as you can, download Youtube Downloader, and help us share this message.

If you speak, they have to listen. If they do not listen, Their blatant disregard for the people will not go un-noticed, and is not acceptible. Doing nothing is the worst thing you can do.

We are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us!

I have not heard any other mention of this besides this video, but its worrying nonetheless.
I recall there being another topic about relevant things but considering its buried a few pages most likely, i hope this will do as well.

I'd say its worth discussing and spreading the word. If confirmed that its actually true.
Thank God i dont live in the US, for a multitude of reasons, but if each Government is going to look up to the US and and replicate this... Oh boy...

In the somewhat unlikely case this is just a rumor i fell for, feel free to lock it. But i heard of plenty of stupid acts like these before, so...

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Help & Editing / Removing bots from Campaigns

« on: July 27, 2011, 07:02:50 PM »

Well i've looked everywhere, even went all the way to decompile scripts though that still didnt gather any possible result whatsoever.

I simply need an way to remove bots mid-game much like the secret bosses in Megaman.
I'm probaly either missing something painfully obvious or its some hacky shit one needs to remove them. Preferabaly something through ACS, but whatever works...

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The Ghoul's Forest / GVHv3b6 - Released!

« on: June 25, 2011, 04:04:05 PM »

This is the official topic to post all feedback in about GVHv3b2 (or later) and related files.

Current version (V3B6) download links:
Wadhost: http://wadhost.fathax.com/request.php?307
BE: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/gvhv3b6.pk3
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/gvhv3b ... battle.pk3
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/gvhv3b ... -santa.pk3

Previous version:
http://wadhost.fathax.com/download.php?view.34 (Contains Yurei Battle and Santa as well.)

Previous betas:

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GVH: http://oblacek.sh.cvut.cz/bin/GVHv3b5.pk3
Santa: http://oblacek.sh.cvut.cz/bin/GVHv3b4-santa.pk3
Yurei Battle: http://oblacek.sh.cvut.cz/bin/GVHv3b4-yurei-battle.pk3

http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b4.zip
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b4-CTF.zip
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b4-rainbow.zip

http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b3.zip
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b3hotfix.zip(needed for proper hosting of v3b3)

http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b2.zip
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHv3b2-rainbowv2.zip (updated)

http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/gvhv3b2-beta.zip
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/gvhv3b2-santa-beta.zip

Here's the changelist:

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Humans:
-Engineer: Saw Traps have 75% chance to drop as ammo when broken/expired.
-Engineer: Fired Saws will now become ammo instead of traps, and pierce armor.
-Engineer: Now starts with 30 saws. Altfire creates Traps (max 15 per engineer).
-Engineer: Fired Saws damage formula changed: random(17,18), (remember, they hit multiple times)
(They also seem to hurt stationary targets alot more then moving ones.)
-Cyborg: New fuel system, lower Fuel cap, but regenerates to 75.
-Cyborg: Plasma damage reworked to formula: random(16-28) per hit.
-Ghostbuster: Proton Pack rate of fire slightly reduced.
-Ghostbuster: Small damage reduction on Ice weapon. Reduced ammo usage.
-Ghostbuster: Weapons upgrades given Mega-Man style! Can swap freely between them.
-Ghostbuster: UseInventory button sacrifices currently held upgrade weapon for ammo.
-Ghostbuster: Altfire now switches to Ghost Traps instead.
-Hunter: Normal Bow made slightly slower, slows user down minimally.
-Hunter: Normal Arrows do 35 damage on Sjas, 41 on Jitterskull.
-Hunter: Now starts with 40 arrows by default.
-Hunter: Lightning bow replaced with a new one that shoots a initially low-damage
projectile, which powers up as it moves to its target. Worse then normal arrows at
short range, but stronger then other attacks at longer range. Goes up to 60 damage.

Ghouls:
-Sjas: Minor range increase.
-Jitterskull: Nerfed range if having moved recently.
-Jitterskull: x2 blood recovery. Faster normal recovery.
-Jitterskull: Now passes through Creepers and Jitterskulls, no more unwanted creeper blocking.
-Jitterskull: Now takes 1.3 damage from lightning instead of 1.6. Still takes 1.6 damage from railguns.
-Creeper: Now passes through Jitterskulls and Creepers as well.
-Creeper: Altfire hits no longer gets accuracy medals that would otherwise reveal his position.
-Choke: Small range increase to: 58. Even more fixes to bloodball animation.
-Choke: Satan's Sniper achievement no longer stops working when Santa is added.
S. Sniper also no longer triggers when you shoot a Bloodball really far, then kill w/ Munch or close-range balls.
-Frost Bite: Fixed armor-related bugs. Can now bite even without ammo for Breath.

Other:
-A very few map changes (see below), also replaced a rather poor map with a better one.
-Compatflags are now handled automatically unless gvh_dontforcecompat is set to true.
-sv_useteamstartsindm will be enforced by default unless disabled with gvh_dontforceteamspawn.
-The Titlemap will automatically set gvh_incampaign to true which changes some settings for better gameplay in campaign.
-Added an keybind to display class information, similar to the achievement list.
It should hopefully prove handy to give newbies an idea what each class does. (Just dont mind the shitty image quality)
-Class info/Achievement List no longer triggers when not identifying the class.
(It checks for certain weapons, so it wont work in Yurei Battle, as it replaces weapons.)
-Gave Arrow and Saw ammo drops larger pickup radius.
-Cyborg/Ghostbuster: Added a message about useinventory on respawn/enter per session.
-Various changes to bots (see below).
-Trap-Tastic now requires 4 kills.
-Changing music for TDM requires Fraglimit to be at 6 or higher.
-Added minimum requirement of 3 or more winlimit before the special TLMS last round music can play.
-Fixed music changes happening when they shouldn't.
-No longer clears previously added bots anymore.
-Team Boost Mechanic: Team balancer that boosts stats of the smaller team. This is to discourage stacking teams.
-Team Boosts in Team Deathmatch will wait for a moment before it checks the teams.
-Slight changes to Campaign to generally improve it, and the AI in some maps.
-Added notifications to the anti-cheat scripts, allowing use of models for clients now functions as intended.
-More strict anti-cheat scripts, so it shouldn't spam the server log with messages.
-Changed Lightning Mastery requirements to killing 3 Ghouls at long range.
-Hunter's arrows, Saws and Hollies now have +SKYEXPLODE (They'll 'hit' the sky, instead of disappear).
-Optimized various HUD messages so they look better with various HUD bar settings.
(No more text being compressed by a large HUD bar, wouldnt know anyone who uses that stuff, though...)

Maps:
-New map: Replaced old GVH37(Mountainside Storage Facility) with a new GVH37 (Downtown Night).
-GVH01: The intro message now triggers on Open instead of Enter, like all the other maps.
-GVH31 & GVH32: Intro messages have been added (they didnt have any).
-GVH39: Changed intro message from Russian (i think) to English.

Bot-only changes:
-All Human bots: Retreats on damage. Will stay further away.
-Frostbite: Now can use normal breath during gvh_advancedbots.
-Frostbite: The 'shotgun breath' is now a Super weapon instead.
-Cyborg: May randomly dash into any direction when damaged.
-Cyborg & GhostBuster: Will make distance when out of ammo.
-Sjas: Far more agressive during gvh_advancedbots/gvh_superbots.
-Choke: Bot animations for the (Super) Bloodball hopefully fixed.
-Jitterskull: Super Bot version nerfed; longer delay after super, blood delay.
-Human Bots: Now have gvh_botstayaway and gvh_botstayawaymore flags to always run
off and stay away even when not hurt. Like, you know, actual humans. :P

Yurei Battle:
-No more ghouls allowed in the arena. Again. (Dont use random!)
-LOTS of bugfixing. Monster should be less blind now. No more infinite looping monster spawning?
-Flashing on the HUD should work properly again, as well, for in-game players.
-Autosaving works (again?) for Campaign mode. Autosave for Finale also added.
-Ghostbusters can only gain a weapon from a killed ghoul once. No ammo refills on kill.
-Dieing as a Ghostbuster while holding fire on Bone Cannon no longer bugs ammo regen.
-Flame Vortex: Now has a startup moment to make it more fair. And a duration limit.
-Made some Hard Mode attacks a bit more fair.
-The white screen ending in singleplayer now doesnt take forever to finish. Ending works properly now too.

Santa:
-Updated Santa to work with the team-boosting mechanic.
-Now can make use of the improved bot AI as well.
-Santa should now stop flickering all the time in the select screen.
-Hollies can only be picked up by Santa's now. Fixed gaining too much Holly ammo. Will hit skies instead of disappearing into them.
-Santa no longer picks up Saws anymore.
-Also comes with a class information page. (Now in even worse image quality! - I cant help it, graphics aren't my thing... :P)

GVH is still subject to change, and feedback is highly encouraged as it will make things a little easier, as not all things can be succesfully tested on bots. :P

Please put any bugs you see in here as well with if possible, an image (ImageShack is exellent for image hosting), and all the details you can offer, such as (if that applies) how a bug is reproduced, where on the map the bug is (you can turn on the map overlay or make a second screenshot of the in-game map), and anything else important.

Though if im around in a game of GVH i guess you could give me any bugs and/or feedback there as well. This topic will do fine for any questions as well. And its highly appreciated if people host it so i can get alot more feedback. I'll probaly host this frequently as long as it needs testing.
Edit: Well this topic should work out for feedback about the official release too.

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The Ghoul's Forest / Balance Patch

« on: April 30, 2011, 01:56:12 PM »

Figured i might as well make a topic, i guess... Been working on this for a while anyway.

Latest version:
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHBala ... 3Test4.zip (main file)
http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/GVHBalanceSanta.zip (requires main file)
EDIT: Santa and/or other addon files might not be up-to-date compared to the main file.
(Ex: Santa will not give Creeper a stun ball when killed by his melee attack untill updated.)

Well, the reason of this (unofficial) patch is to improve GVH in terms of balance, fix stuff that isnt working, and occasionally add a new function or even replace them entirely in rare cases. All that while still keeping gameplay roughly the same and simply making things more fair on both sides.
This patch adds changes (mostly nerfs/buffs) to all classes and whatnot.
List of changes (taken from the server MOTD):

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Changes:

Marine:
More machinegun ammo.
Hunter:
Normal ammo system returned. Normal bow usable on 0 ammo but has
a slower loading time and makes no dropped arrow appear. Damage = 32.
Cyborg:
No invulnerability while using jetpack dashing. Cooldown on Jetpack after shooting.
100 Jetpack ammo. Regenerates if below 25. (only triggers if regaining ammo)
Engineer:
Nailgun faster in general and probaly a little less damaging.
New Useitem: Gives stun immunity. Reduces slow, grants half movement on stun.
Also grants faster movement when not stunned/slown.
Ghostbuster:
Max. Ammo changed to 150. Blood spreader nerfed.
Santa(If added):
Snowgun (obviously) nerfed. Archievements back.

Sjas:
Main attack does 0.1 less damage in a scale of 1.0.
Creeper:
Succesfull kills grant a a stun ball.
Jitterskull:
Missing a charge takes longer. Movement stun not prolonged. Also decreased radius.
Choke:
Attack buffed accordingly with increased HP (he needs it!)
Frostbite:
Breath slows people down, more hits, more slowing down. Larger and faster too.
Humans will sparkle (like Frostbite) when hit by breath. Showing they've been hit.

Archievements have been fixed.
Bots with multiple weapons have improved AI now. Especially Ghostbuster.

Recent changes:
Sjas range restored, damage 0.9. Jitter damage restored, even less range.
Jetpack 100 fuel, regen to 25 ammo. Plasma damage restored.
4 steam cannon ammo. 1 useitem for Engineer.
Free slow shot for hunter if no ammo. 100 hp back for humans.

If anyone wants to propose changes, add feedback, maybe even suggest entirely new functions, well, go ahead. This is a good way to kill time while waiting for an update anyway so i dont mind to check people's feedback or idea's. :P

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The Ghoul's Forest / So... GVHv2b10 ever getting out?

« on: November 04, 2010, 03:55:12 PM »

Long, possibily slightly rant-ish post.

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You're kinda letting it rot and die anyway currently, giving MM8BDM all the attention, and just forgetting about the balance issues this one has.
Why its still being played is because it is fun. And alot of that fun just kept getting better and got more people because it improved (and, well, yeah, the more content to mess around with), but in the long run, if the flaws get too bad, people might just stop playing it.

And i'm quite personally getting sick of the constant marine spam you see daily, and either do nothing about, just watch your teammates kill themselves merely looking at an marine. Or join the marine's team. Hell, might as well call it Marine vs Ghouls! Of course the humans often complain about the Sjas that constantly seem overpowered to them, well i guess he is quite powerfull and difficult to deal with.

Even if its the last update you'll ever do, atleast PLEASE balance the damn thing before you leave it to rot. It seems quite unlikely it will need much more stuff if you're putting all your effort into MM8BDM, so atleast give the people who like it and some of the people who care for its balance an update! It'll just make it more amusing to play when we want to play it for whatever reason.
Its closed to being decently balanced anyway... Ah, the memories of instakill lightning arrows, 3 super powerfull ice arrows, the machinegun ripping through ghouls even better then the hunter's arrows at some point...

If all those balance issues are behind us atleast we can then just play it if there's an active game going on anyway, without being mauled by riotguns or sjas only. Assuming no new issues pop up. :P

Oh, and considering MM8BDM is your current popular project anyway, it doesnt need much new stuff to regain popularity, for all i care its an silent update! What would possibily stop you from updating it? I'm sure many people would love an balance update anyway, plenty of people getting tired of the usual flaws. Personally, i'll be quite happy when its all fixed, hosted on the official, non-laggy servers, and i can just enter it one day and just ENJOY a good ol game of GVH. Maybe just for purely the sake of nostalgia.

Hmm, and i wonder... Anyone else wants to see GVH updated for any reason? (If people still read this section of the forums at all.)

All this is assuming the 10th version is releasable, unless there's still some issues to fix or tests to be done. Speaking of, i DEAR GOD HOPE there is a proper spread for the Riotgun now. :P
(And dont ask me to make a own patch or anything, because i want a fixed GVH to be hosted on official servers, and best way to do it is to have a new one to be released, of course. :P)