How do "I" do THAT in Doom Builder?

[Hallan Parva]

Okay I'm cheating, it's not really a Doom Builder question but whatever.

I'd like to know how to make classes. Don't just say "lol look at Mega Man", because I really have NO IDEA how Doom coding works. Assume that I'm a total n00b and have none of the programs needed to open .wads/.pk3s, and also assume I have all the sprites and/or custom weapons ready and saved in an available location.

[TERRORsphere]

Assume that I'm a total n00b and have none of the programs needed to open .wads/.pk3s,

Rename them to .zip then you can open them with Windows Explorer.

[BiscuitSlash]

Okay I'm cheating, it's not really a Doom Builder question but whatever.

I'd like to know how to make classes. Don't just say "lol look at Mega Man", because I really have NO IDEA how Doom coding works. Assume that I'm a total n00b and have none of the programs needed to open .wads/.pk3s, and also assume I have all the sprites and/or custom weapons ready and saved in an available location.

Best use SlumpEd IMO. That's what I always use to do stuff like special map things and skins (and classes, but I haven't done those yet).

[Korby]

There's a template file contained in the classes .pk3.

However, to really make a class special, you need to give them weapons, which you need to code.

For that, I direct you to Mike's Weapon Template. Also, yeah, I use SlumpED, and I think Mike does too, but Slade 3 is apparently a better choice(?).

[Ivory]

Slade3 is superior in every way to slumped. Slumped is only still used due to familiarity. In time Slade3 will be obsoleting slumped in that regard too.

I suggest using Slade3 over Slumped myself.

[Hallan Parva]

They still work in (nearly) the same way, right? I don't want to be using Slade and everyone tells me how to do something in SlumpEd because nearly everybody still uses SlumpEd.

Also, thanks for the tip about that template Korby! You never fail to disappoint!

[BiscuitSlash]

Is there also a way to make invisible wall that you cannot pass but still hold things like vbuoys? I want to put them on top of water without a visible tower thing underneath them.

[TERRORsphere]

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Make a line and make it impassable.

[SickSadWorld]

I've gotten a lot of help here and no one answered this so I can try to give back to the community.

Dust crushers, but making it so that they crush when a player enters a sector?

Here's an example of my interpretation of what you described that uses

http://wadhost.fathax.com/files/DUST.zip

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It might be a bit over-designed for a simple demonstration but I guess I got carried away.

The key feature of this model that addresses your question directly is using
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Ceiling_CrushRaiseAndStay

[BiscuitSlash]

Thank you SSW! That tutorial really helped!

Is there also a way to make invisible wall that you cannot pass but still hold things like vbuoys? I want to put them on top of water without a visible tower thing underneath them.

I made a mistake in what I said, but here is the situation:

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I want to make these Vbuoys float on top of the water. I want to do this by making these thin pillars underneath them invisible and not passable by players. How? (Is there a better way to do this?)

I haven't set a texture for the pillars which is why they appear blurry. I want to make these invisible though.

[ficarra1002]

Stuff

Why don't you want them passable? If the buoy are on top of the water, why would they block your path?

[arkman]

Is there also a way to make invisible wall that you cannot

That is what he wants to know.

and I don't think that is possible, as that would basically be a floor over another floor which is the bane of doom stages.

Try looking at Bridges, there is another tutorial for that either in this forum or in another forum for the same purpose.

[SickSadWorld]

Is there also a way to make invisible wall that you cannot pass but still hold things like vbuoys? I want to put them on top of water without a visible tower thing underneath them.

Hm, the way I'd approach this problem is to probably use DECORATE somehow

Some possibilities

Inherit from the buoy actor and give it +NOGRAVITY, then set its z-height in doom builder
 Make an invisible actor inherited from the HeXen glitterbridge actor and put the buoys on top of them
 Something else?

I don't think it's a good idea to make invisible sectors that impede motion. Maybe someone else has input?

[TERRORsphere]

It's possible to make them invisible, but it's hard to explain... It's do with messing around with sectors and linedefs...

Make a sector, Make another one around it (It help's if it's thin so it's unnoticeable)
Take a note of the number of the inner sector...
Make both sides of the lines the belong to the same sector (it should be the number of it)
Repeat that again for the outer one.

Stairs are done in the same way, they can be quite confusing.

If you're all having trouble with this, I'll make another video.

Download here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9nmt6u

[ficarra1002]

Inherit from the buoy actor and give it +NOGRAVITY, then set its z-height in doom builder

That's the best way to do it.