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XOVER Weapons
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The name has nothing to do with anything past you could imagine--

It's a modification blooming from the idea of this thread

The purpose (the gimmick) is simple but fun. At the beginning of a game, a Mega Man episode will be selected, from 1 to &Bass --only Mega Man 1 avaiable for the moment sorry, this is still a prototype '^' and all the weapons of the stage will turn into weapons of this episode, using a weapon randomizer algorithm (The only weapons that remain untouched are the Mega Man Killers',
Sakugarne, Mega Ball, and the Buster Upgrades as they don't belong to one of the 8 Robot Masters of a episode. Time Stopper isn't modified neither due to being soooo rare even in vanilla ;( )

Collect two weapons, and use the Wrench Key item you start with on these weapons to select them, so they're used as "ingredients" for the "recipe" (their Robot Masters' name will be displayed on the screen when they're selected). When the 2 weapons are selected for the recipe, they're automatically consumed (destroyed), and you obtain a Xover weapon made up of these 2 weapons!! That's all.

A few extra notes and tips :
1) When you make a Xover weapon, your 2 ingredients-weapons are removed from your inventory. In addition to that, you won't be able to pick up any weapon that is already being used
in a Xover weapon (for instance, if you mix Fire Storm and Ice Slasher, you'll obtain the IceXFire Xover weapon. Good!! But, Fire Storm and Ice Slasher will be removed from your inventory, and you won't be able to pick them up again (until you die or spectate).
2) The Xover weapons are meant to be stronger than the single (vanilla) weapons.
3) By pressing ALTFIRE + Item (wrench key) together, the weapon recipe will be cleared. If you chose the wrong weapon to be used for a recipe, you can clear your mistake by doing
ALT + Item (wrench key).
4) The order in which you mix weapons doesn't matter
5) There might be secret recipes which are even stronger...

Here is the list of Xover weapons :

(click to show/hide)Mega Man 1

Cut + Guts = Giant Cutter
A gigantic cutter inspired by Cut Man's super move in Mega Man Powered Up. Works like Justified Cutman's altfire, it's a painful cutter
which rolls and rips through players, coming back to the user when it contacts with a wall.

Cut + Ice = Keen Dagger
A very, VERY close range stabbing attack with fast firing rate. Damaging someone with this one dagger at point blank might bring him/her from a state of fully-healed
to dangerously low on health, or even a pure instant kill.

Cut + Bomb = Dangerous Blades
Quickly-firing bouncing Rolling Cutters. They rip and randomly explode.. o_o

Cut + Fire = Hellfire Cutter
I had to do this one 8D
CutmanMike's Hellfire Cutter from the CSCC classes mod. 1 use available, and then you're out of ammo. This single cutter is a OHKO most of the time, but
you need to collect lots of capsule energy to fill it again for another use.

Cut + Elec = Energetic Cutters
A spread of Rolling Cutter powered up by the power of lightning.

Cut + Time = Ten Thousand Knives
The user casts a Time Slow attack, and in addition to this, releases a swarm of knives around him/her. They bounce on the walls for some time before disappearing.

Cut + Oil = Ironclad Oil Slider
Oil Slider turned into metallic liquid! The blob shot now rips and does noticeable hitstun (similar to Crash Bomb's.) The sliding damage is increased. Finally, the "double jump"
effect when cancelling the sliding reaches taller heights. However Ironclad Oil Slider can't be burnt. It's still an upgraded Oil Slider in a nutshell.

Guts + Ice = Cold Punch
A short-ranged manly fist, which knocks its victims away. You can charge it to increase the power, range, as well as knockback intensity.

Guts + Bomb = Giga Bomb
The giant bomb of Justified Bomb Man. 3 uses available!

Guts + Fire = Battlin' Boxer
Use this weapon in-air to heavily fall forward, fist toward the ground, creating a quake attack around you when landing!
Once you landed, you can hold the firing button to punch the earth, sending Guts Block debris as long as you want ; however you can't move while doing so.

Guts + Elec = Collision Reaction
Using the Mega Man 1 physic laws, the user digs a block from the ground, and shoot a Thunder Beam at it, destroying it to pieces.

Guts + Time = Loading Equipment
A large Windows 95-skinned hourglass slowly falls (wat) to a fixed point in front of the user. It splits when it contacts with the ground, heavily
slowing down the victims for a very brief delay

Guts + Oil = Canister Smashing
Raises a tall oil canister from the ground, and throw it on the enemies' face. It hurts a LOT but is fairly slow to pull out.

Ice + Bomb = Cool Motion
Throw a cold damaging bomb that sticks on the floor. It explodes with great damage, and scatters ice slashers circularly ; they raise to the ceiling later.

Ice + Fire = Honor
The moral values of Ice Man and Fire Man mixed to work together in a simple but faithful weapon. Shoot a Ice Slasher and a Fire Storm from the buster in a circular
shot, creating a fire or ice shield around the user (like Fire Storm's shield). Has a lot of ammo to use.

Ice + Elec = Ice Beam
A cold and large Thunder Beam. When it hits someone, it stops moving and rips for a half second or so. It can hurt a lot if someone run straight into your Ice Beams.

Ice + Time = Glacial Spell
Cast a radius attack which not only slow down the victims, but also freeze them for a second, making them unable to move or attack.

Ice + Oil = Figure Skating
A kind of slippery Oil Slider! Press normalfire to enable sliding, and press it again to end it with a graceful rotative movement. Ice Slashers
are created behind you when you're sliding, they raise upward. So beautiful.

Bomb + Fire = Molotov Cocktail
Throw a burning molotov cocktail on a short range to someone's teeth and they'll say you're so mean. A heavily damaging explosive, that has a chance of causing an afterburn
(afterburn does extra damage and slows down the victim for some time, making them easy targets).

Bomb + Elec = Light Concentration
Rushing forward with power in the hand, the user powers up a giant ball of lightning in front of him/her as long as he/she keeps holding Normalfire. It hurts a lot but you can't move
with this energy.

Bomb + Time = Boom Time
These Hyper Bombs are slowed down. They explode after a while, and their multi-hitting explosions last several seconds.

Bomb + Oil = Incendiary Device
How to explain it... shoot a large blob of oil, splashing into a larger oil field, and then throw a bomb into it. See the oil field
turn into a dangerous burning field, dealing large-sized damage. This weapon might be able to block access to certain areas

Fire + Elec = Surge
Reproduces a small-sized short circuit blast of power. Keep holding mainfire to feed it with your ammo, so it can continue going. It is able to bounces on floors and walls..somehow

Fire + Time = Final Countdown
The user turns him/herself into a bomb that explodes after five seconds, killing him/herself in the process (the developpers behind this genius idea want you to remember that
killing yourself counts as a suicide, in other words -- you lose 1 frag). If the user is killed before he/she explodes, the kamikaze attack won't happen. A player using this attack
will start flashing and play detonation sounds

Fire + Oil = Lava Field
You'll rapidly shoot blobs of oil as long as you keep holding the firing button.
Release it to drop a flame, that will burn all the oil puddles you scattered.

Elec + Time = Digital Clock
Sets up a crazy clock in front. It fires a purple laser below, dealing major damage to anyone going through it. If the laser touches the ground, thunder beams will be released in 4
directions, and will then rewind back toward the clock.

Elec + Oil = Network Communication
^ this icon is a recolorated Dust Crusher I swear
Can only be used with full ammo. This sliding can't be stopped until empty ammo.
It goes slower (eletric sliding to save the planet!), but has a bigger contact damage hitbox (radius) ; thunder beams are created
on a random pace in various directions
...I don't really know what I was doing with this one ^^"

Time + Oil = Speed Syndrome
Gotta go fast!! Using this weapon will temporarily magically give you the envy to rush forward like a ram
and the effects can be accumulated for even more speed. 2 uses available

A Mega Man 2 episode might be done in a day but I don't promise anything. Until this day comes, if you want to help me, you can provide gameplay ideas for the MM2 weapons! I run out of ideas sometimes :/

(click to show/hide)> Special thanks to CutmanMike and the MM8BDM devteam for making one of the best Mega Man fan-games ever and still keeping it alive after all these years
> The graphic artists of Justified Classes and YD Classes for some attacks sprites, as well as for some sound effects
> Gizmo the Cat's Plasma Cannon graphics used for Light Concentration (Bomb x Elec)
> The Mission Mode artists for Keen Dagger's huds and slicing graphics
> Bill Gates for making Windows :P
> Ankama Games for the Digital Clock's graphics from the game Dofus
> Cold Punch sprites from Gummywormz's DIRP weapon pack ; + the Rainbow Beam firing sound effect

I didn't miss anything or anyone? Aight T.T

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Damage Display
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Damage Display is an utility mod for MM8BDM for displaying and tracking damage. It can :
   > Display heals and damage taken
   > Show ally health
   > Track total damage dealt and your score (kills/deaths)
   > Count successive hits (combos)
   ... and so much more to discover !!! (actually no that's all and it's way more than enough ',' )

It works on most game modes : DM/TDM, Duel, Terminator, LMS/TLMS, CTF/OFCTF, Coop/Survival/Invasion
It doesn't work properly yet in Possession/Team Possession

It's a great mod for players to have more feedback on their playing experience, and for developpers to better track damage values for balancing purposes

Players can modify their Damage Display preferences in MM8BDM's Options menu ==> Damage Display Preferences (scroll all the way down).

     > Damage and heal pop-up

A red (damage) or green (heal) pop-up rises when a player's health reduces or increases. The number in the pop-up displays the health change amount. It can be set in the preferences either to :
- FLAT : The unaltered, actual health value
- PERCENTAGE : the percentage of the maximum health this value represents. For example, dealing 400 damage to a unit with 2000 max HP will pop-up 20.

     > Ally health

A small indicator over your allies' (i.e players in your team) head, displaying their health. Only relevant in team-based game modes (TDM, TLMS, CTF/OFCTF, Coop/Survival/Invasion)

     > Total damage dealt

The yellow-ish values on the left side of the screen represent how much damage you dealt with your current life, and in total (since the beginning of the round).

     > Kills/deaths score

The hot and cold values on the left side of the screen count your kills with your current life (red) and in total (purple), as well as death count (blue) (since the beginning of the round).
Both total damage dealt and total KD score update upon respawning or round end.

     > Combo counter

Counts successive hits at the top of your screen. Resets to 0 after one second without any hit

Q : I enabled/disabled a feature but it doesn't display/it stays on screen!
A : spectate or die and it'll diligently refresh

Q : I can't find the DmgD preferences menu in MM8BDM's Options!
A : some other mod might be modifying MM8BDM's Options as well. There's another way (the hard way D:) to adjust your preferences : open the console, and type one of the commands with a value below :
         0 to turn off
         1 for flat
         2 for percentage
         0 to turn off
         1 for flat
         2 for percentage
         0 to turn off
         1 for flat
         2 for percentage
         3 for health bar
         0 to turn off
         1 to turn on
         0 to turn off
         1 to turn on
   For example if you type
   dmgd_ally_health 3
   in the console it will set ally health to be displayed as health bars.
   You can type
   in the console to reset all values to default   

Q : anything I should know when hosting this?
A : it should work with pretty much everything and the file order does not matter as long as it's hosted in MM8BDM (probably won't work with Doom, SRB2 or another game '^') also it doesn't work correctly in the possession game mode
Q : Why was the damage per second removed?
A : that information was not that helpful, since players would usually focus on their enemy and the damage pop-ups rather than the average DPS (which refreshes back to 0 after an arbitrary time also).  The "did my attack land?" information can still be retrieved by looking over the damage counter

Q : Can I give suggestions/feedback/I found a bug ?
A : on this thread, in cutstuff PM or Discord : Stardust Motion#2800


> CutmanMike and the MM8BDM devteam for the best Mega Man fan-game ever
> Capcom for Mega Man super fighting robot video game series
> Heelnavi and Blews for help with testing

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Classes' stage taunt pack
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At the occasion of the release of MM8 classes, I made a taunt pack you can enjoy or do whatever you want with. This pack allows you to play your favourite Robot Masters' themes ! The theme lasts from about 4 to 8 seconds. Keep constantly taunting and let the RM's theme follow your TLMS fights. Feel like you're battling against other robots from other stages, with other mechanisms :I
1) Download and put the file in the SKINS folder
2) Define a TAUNT key in Options ==> Setup controllings (or something) in the game menu
3) Press the TAUNT key
4) ???
5) Profit !

inb4 everyone uses the boss of the current stage being played
inb4 concertos everywhere
inb4 harmony of 8-bits my ears are happy and I don't get mad anymore because of grenarmaggedon

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v4 removed a small blank at the start of a MMV taunt, and buffed the volume even more! Sorry for the fast update.
v3 added the Mega Man V themes (only available in Justified Classes)
v2 buffed the global volume of the taunts.
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Saxton Hale Rebirth ++
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IMPORTANT NOTE : Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ is very outdated as development stopped (produced around 2013-2014); it is currently (2021) being updated by MegaVile for MM8BDM-v6 (discord link :
The SHR++ description below is just kept for history/legacy purposes I guess

Just call it SHR++ for short

...Saxton Hale again, it strikes back (it never left through). The name of this mod is inspired by Sega's Sonic Mega Collection + videogame, a big collection including all the old Genesis Sonic games. The ++ means, it's basically SH, but... double plus because it's cool
This mod is a merging between Saxton Hale Plus Plus and Saxton Hale Rebirth. I and TailsMK4 both decided to mix our mods' names into one so that way, we don't have to come up with another other name... the title is explicit. SHR++ = SH++ + SHR
In other words, this mod mixes at the same time the potential of Rebirth and ++ so the final product is an homogenous and fun project to play

The new and future hales also have a different gameplay than "melee clones with a different rage". This is a past idea in our mod. The hale stereotype isn't a thing anymore.
More in depth, there are some more aims to make it more enjoyable and fresher. I thought we lacked of hales that have the following properties, that's why I was influenced by these parameters :

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==> Hales that don't always OHKO
==> Hales that follow a more original pattern than a simple melee attack... each hale has his own fighting system, and his own good/bad points, they could even be complex to use ; but at least, they're NOT anymore COPIES of EACH OTHER for sure X___X
==> More Megaman-related hales.. I hope.
==> More girl hales :>

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If you want to edit or use our mod for another project, PLEASE before doing so, PM me or Tails in the thread what are you up to :/

K thanks for reading :D you get a pat on the head

Diary of (important) updates :
(click to show/hide)21/06/14 SHR++ was updated so you can play it with the Mega Man & Bass update ; changelog is located to page 27 or something c:

2/05/14 3 months later... RIDE OOON! It's time again~~! Tails is now my partner and like he said, we are going to work on the same mode. SH++ is called now SHRebirth++ and features parts of both Rebirth and ++! We really hope this merging won't be disappointing, because not only more than 3+ new hales are available, but we also modified some old hales, and many other fixes, rebalancements and new features! Enjoy! :D
The boss descriptions were updated and shortened for less BS mode, and you can see the detailed changelog right here~~

1/02/14 : Cleaned up some parts of this post, so it's shorter. All the screenshots of the new hales are mixed into one tab.

27/11/13 : It's time~~! I release my mod SH++ v1A this day. The all-first version may be quickly updated to a second or third versions because some hales might be unbalanced =) unfortunately, my betatesting team wasn't enough big to recreate a big server :/
I'll be hosting a server with Saxton Hale ++. Due to my hate of Saxton Hale's popularity (I enjoy it, but I blame it at the same time for being the --almost-- only mode being played), I might take down my servers temporarily to force people play something else than Saxton Hale >_< it sounds silly but meh
To come back to the actual news, SH++ hasn't classes so don't be surprised, instead enjoy being able to use the skins :D
I'll be often present in my servers to receive feedbacks about balancing :D

24/11/13 : I'm getting closer to the end. The release should come soon :3

22/11/13 : Nah, it's not dead, not at all, I've on the contrary been busy working with it. I've only ONE hale left, but like Seemen and Cave Story, that's a "team" hale, so it takes more time to code, especially because EACH member has its own skills :/
I decided to give Remilia back her old theme : Diana Boncheva feat. BanYa - Beethoven Virus, because her theme, Septette for the Dead Princess, was too mainstream for me >_<

6/11/13 : Added a picture of the 5th and final hale's HUD

1/11/13 : Remilia's theme is now a 8-bit cover of her actual theme by Skutieos7 (previous theme was Diana Boncheva feat. BanYa - Beethoven Virus)

30/11/13 : Finished the 4th hale on my side

27/11/13 : Just divided the "change from the official SH" section into Gameplay and Audio/Graphic for sorting things

25/11/13 : Incoming BUNCH of screenshots ! For older or new hales, enjoy the view :D :I
Some minor stuff concerning older hales was also added to the Change from Saxton Hale section
I revealed Remilia Scarlet's theme because meh.

20/11/13 : Due to suggestions, Pissed Off Roll is confirmed to come back, after so much players wanted her cute voice back. Of course, I'm not PORoll's maker, this is SilverSin's work.

19/11/13 : Added a picture of the 3rd hale's HUD in the Screenshots section.

18/11/13 : Even more stuff in the "Changes from the official Saxton Hale" were added ; because I feel the envy to do so. Also I spoiled weaknesses for each hale. I wonder if other Saxton Hale modders around here would like to adopt the weakness system for every hale in every Saxton Hale mod ? :D
That way we could have "official weaknesses" included in other mods and that could be interesting :3

EDIT : A few hours later, SuperJustinBros convinced me that weaknesses are a bad idea, because they just make the fight more or less easy according to luck. So, totally against skills. I decided to turn off the code, but I might still reactivate it in case of if people really want them back. Until further notice, NO hale, including Scrooge, have a weakness and/or resistances.

17/11/13 : I just added some more stuff in the "Changes from the official Saxton Hale" spoiler.

16/11/13 : Okay, I know it's not nice not revealing a single hale. So here she arrives, straight from the Touhou galaxy : Remilia Scarlet is a hale. I added pictures of her, as well as a boss description.

My project is flowing quite nicely if I do say myself, on my view of the things. 3 hales on the 5 planned are already completly finished. I only spoiled one for the moment through :3
I can foresee the release date of the first playable, and enjoyable version (v1A) around the 1st December. Maybe a little later if I slowly progress on it D:

11/11/13 : Thread created. I won't spoil any hale for the moment, through two screenshots from these hales are posted in the screenshot section.Bosses list
(click to show/hide)- Saxton Hale
- Ghost of Starman (Rebirth sauce)
- Christian Brutal Sniper (Rebirth version)
- Morshoooo (Rebirth styled)
- Slenderman (special deluxe edition)
- Captain Falcon
- Seemen
- Ninja Spy
- Ra Thor is removed. Or... replaced should I say
- Quote and Curly (Cave Story) special canon edition
- Cave Johnson
- Scrooge Mc'Duck
- Gilgamesh
SH++ v1 :
- Remilia Scarlet
- The Unknown Robot Master
- Dio Flash
- Mudkip
- Wily Tower Robot Masters (Buster Rod G, Mega Water S, Hyper Storm H)
SHR++ v2 :
- Tomahawk Talbain
- Super Macho Man
- Guts Man G
- The Ra Thor brothersThe classes
(click to show/hide)Latest name I remember calling them was Silversin Classes Redesigned.
These copywep based classes are inspired by TF2 and Silversin's classes from Saxton & Friend. The aim was to go toward more gameplay horizons, but at the same time, without having something too different. These classes most of the time trade stats (less health for more power, less speed for more armor...), and thus I think they are enjoyable enough, and at the same time, aren't the same thing as playing with YD classes.
These classes feature the Megaman main cast as characters. You can see the following picture in-game by using "help_menu" in the console, but I'll give some more informations about them below I advise to read too

==> Nothing special about Megaman, he's the exactly same standard LMS class by default. Only him can use skins!

==> Protoman, Bass and Duo don't start with the Mega Buster, but with their respective buster upgrade... a nerfed version, actually. Unlike Megaman who start with 5 weapons ; Proto, Bass and Duo all three start with 3 weapons

==> Proto Man's Proto Buster has no shield and the damage is slighty nerfed (by 20% to be accurate). So now it acts as a kind of chargeable, sniping Mega buster.

==> Bass' Bass Buster is like the copywep version, however it has a slower fire rate

==> Duo's duo fist takes longer to charge.

==> Auto's weapon acts like a stronger Mega Buster. He fires screws instead of pellets, and the big screws do more damage. Auto can help his allies by providing a large variety of products divided into 2 categories : items and parts. Switch the weapon to swap between items and parts.
> Once created, the items will stay on the map until someone picks them. They can be used at anytime
> The parts on the opposite, disappear after some time if they're not collected. When picked up, their effect instantly activate, and lasts temporarily
Auto receives bolts once in a while automatically (max : 999). With them, he can make up stuff.
Open the products window with altfire.
When opened, scroll between the list of objects by tapping altfire, until the desired object is selected.
Confirm your selection by holding altfire, and tadaaaa, if you have enough bolts, your object will be created and sent to the allies! Careful as you're slowed down while creating something.

It takes some time to handle it but once acquired it feels pretty varied and fun to use.
The list of the objects Auto can create :

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> Random Weapon (225 bolts) : like Eddie, provides a random weapon. Eddie however has a higher probability of giving rare weapons
> W-Tank (185 bolts) : no description needed
> Beat (300 bolts) : A Beat Call-type insurer object
> Exit Unit (450 bolts) : Teleports the user to a random spawn point of the map

PARTS (Weapon 2)
> E. Analyzer (120 bolts) : draws the complete map on the automap, and display all the actors as well for some time. It's more useful than how it seems
> S. Armor (300 bolts) : reduces the damage taken of the user for some time
> H.S.D. (250 bolts) : increases the mobility of the user for some time
> S. Buster (400 bolts) : increases the strength of the user for some time
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==> Roll's weapon on the other hand, acts like a faster Mega Buster. Faster missiles with a slightly faster fire rate.
By tapping the altfire, you can check a target's health. Tap it often, quickly on everyone to keep your eye on their health, and you'll be best medic of the server
If the target has full health, a mirror buster sound will play and green sparkles will spread. If the target is indeed weakened, a laser buster sound will play and red sparkles will spread.
Hold the altfire to send the healing beam. When your patient casts green sparkles, it means he/she's completly retablished :DBoss description (some might be outdated)
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(click to show/hide)Saxton Hale gets improved graphics for his rage ! Also, forget the eyecrushing inverted color thing, it's gone :3

"Are you really the strongest man on your team ?!"

Cave Johnson is proud of showing off his new lemonz thingz

Morshu was sad because he would never catch anyone with his best bomby thing. Now, fear this, that's a real bomb !

And yeah, it IS bigger.

What do we want ? Kill all ze robotz !

Healing roll with improved graphics :D

And old guy comes back... but he's got more tricks in his hand.


Redesigned with his own rage, 2spooly4udude

And I ain't joking when talkin' about heartbeating scenes.

In open areas like this one, Remilia's rage Vampire Illusion can reveal it self quite... dangerous. Dodge that, robot mahsters ! Feel the power of the danmaku ! :D

Llama ? O_o Blame the bullets!

u can flee but no escape

sonic's the name speed's my game

she's enraged

there's no escape from the rape citadel

here he comes, and it's going to be a battlefield

I'm gonna summon mets with your junk, heatman !

sniper armor is happy because he killed a girl
good job sniper

I make them look so weak next to me lol

where's your god now

attack, my stand! attack pls yessir


did you also see the rage message like if it fades in-game ? optical illusion FTW



right on yo face :o

kawaiii as fuck

incoming water gun in 2 1

dat torchic

thx treecko ur nice

spring man is bouncing inside

well of course bubble man, water is weak to grass

ninja much wow

easy prey
must hunt down

the rage mode :D that's a lot of bars yeah, but I heard you were good so

Casting a shield

go away grenade man :v

shield points are displayed next to the health

you can add shields over shields for lotsa shields !

eating little girls it makes me feel so good

you know what I mean by "big" boulder now

(click to show/hide)Special thanks to SilverSin, Balrog, and everyone else who worked on the original Saxton Hale mode.
Special special thanks to CutmanMike and the whole devteam behind MM8BDM for creating the best Mega Man fan-game ever.
Special thanks too to my betatesters, as well as to requesters and people who brought me ideas of new characters to introduce in SH :

TailsMK4 (Partner, Betatesting, bug fixing)
Linnie (Betatesting, advising)
Celebi (betatester, resource providing)
ChaosUnlimited (ressource providing, betatesting)
FTX6004 (spriter, betatesting)
James (betatester)
Jax (coding expert)
Chaos Fantazy (betatesting)
Dawn of Mudkipz (Betatesting)
Dr. Crasger (Betatesting)
OrangeMario (Betatesting)
Fyone (Betatesting)
Dark X / Dark X of Mudkipz (Betatesting)
Kage (Betatesting and nice supporter)
SmashTheEchidna / "Gizmo the Cat" (Ressource providing)

MrL for the idea and the code that allows to choose a hale, (from Rebalanced Classes Saxton Hale)

Superthanks to Celebi for the Pokémon sounds

Diego for the Saxton Hale skin

Thanks to Lego for drawing Auto's screws rotation sprites!!

FTX for the Ninja Spy and Sniper skins, and Gilgamesh Rocket punch sprites (and the skin itself)

Frags for Ra Thers' HUDS and Cave Johnson's, too. Credits for the Slender Man newer skin

Credits to Cave Story's creators for the original sounds/sprites from CStory

Gummy for the ripping of the Rainbow Beam sound

Agent ME on the ZDOOM forums for the double jump code

Gizmo the Cat for the recoloration of Beam Surcharge
The justified Classes team for the Beam Surcharge Thunder Bolt spliting graphics

Various sounds from the YD Classes Modifications by MusashiAA

Thanks a lot to Fyone, Woohoo and the justified devteam to let me use various ressources for my Auto!!

Neslug for the recoloration of the Pokémon moves used for Ra Thor Rebirth's psychic orb

Superthanks to Lego for letting me use the Megaman HUD rune graphics :D

Remilia Scarlet : Skin and HUDs taken from Touhou Classes Mod v1d
Rage graphics/sounds taken from Drake's Project P (Touhou)

Dio Flash : Skin created by Rukifellth
HUD by Classes mod
Knives and punches sprites by Capcom, Araki, and Kit Nathaniels (Sprite Database)

The unknown Robot Master : Skin created by Copy Robot
Music by RushJet1, sounds by Classes

Dawn of Moodkipz Mudkip : Skins created by Blueiscooltoo and Sacat
HUD by Tsukiyomaru Zero
Pokémon sounds by Ankoku Flare
Some graphics by Spriters Ressource

Genesis Unit Themes from this video

Buster Rod G: Skin by Audiophile
HUD by Classes
Sounds by RPG Maker VX Ace ressources, sounds/graphics by Drake's Project P (Touhou), Classes
Rod sprites by NES Boy (spriters ressource)

Mega Water S: Skin by Audiophile too
Sounds by Ankoku Flare/Classes/Drake's Project P (Touhou)
Water and Harpoons sprites by Yawackhary (spriters ressource)

Hyper Storm H: Skin by Megaman/Mr. Joe
Power Mound blasting sound by MMU Classes, boulder sprites by Sprites INC, rock sprites ripped by Neslug (spriters ressource)
Breathing sprites by NES Boy (spriters ressource)

Tomahawk Talbain : Skin by Hinatediz, HUD by Justified classes, and Woohoo for the claws

If I missed someone, please tell me so I add your name !
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Teamwork Classes
(click to show/hide)
or SHR++ V3 Classes
or overly classes

Download links
(LATEST : beta 1 - early 2016)   
Main file : Download
Resources : Download
(you need both. You need to FIRST add the resources, THEN the main file)

This is a small mod (eh), a class mod, a mix between Saxton Hale and classes mods like YD/JC. Not meant to give another view on the robot masters, it's actually simply, the classes that were designed for SHR++ V3. Due to how long Saxton Hale takes to make, I decided to release the classes separately for the moment.

These classes were redesigned with an actual aim, making them truely unique with unique abilities, and giving them all a role (and teamwork-based abilities on the top of that).

This mod is still in a beta phase so it's far from being balanced or anything.

That's pretty much it. The classes are very complex but yeah there's not much else to say.
This mod is played in 1 live, 2-teams TLMS.
Here is finally the guide/how to play the classes !! (since they were so confusing)
I try to keep it as simple and objective as possible as it's already overly complex in-game.

In a general way, classes work like this. They have a buster (default weapon), for most of them, special weapons (like in vanilla TLMS), and then have either PASSIVE
 abilities, or active abilities, on their ALTFIRE or on their ITEM.

(click to show/hide)MEGAMAN
Role : Weaponry Manager
TF2 Counterpart : Soldier
HP : 100%
ATK : 100%
SPEED : 100%

The closest class to vanilla MM8BDM. Simple and effective, very polyvalent ans easy to use in general.
Starts with 5 special weapons and the good old Mega Buster, like in a casual TLMS!
Special abilities :

ALTFIRE : Rush Coil weapon : a Rush Coil with an ammo bar! This rush coil can be summoned at long range, and be used by both you and your allies! If enemies use it,
   they'll be knocked aside (like a bumper). It's very fast and practical to use in all situations.
PASSIVES:    > As long as Megaman lives, his team gains ammo once in a while. (Can be seen with the blue ammo bar, over the HP bar.) More Megamen = more ammo. Of course
            he regens his own ammo as well.
         > Drops a few weapons when he dies (for his team to collect)
         > able to change skins ( :o ) (not really a "skill" but yeah)
My tips: Megaman is very similar to regular TLMS, play him if you want to keep things simple and traditionnal.
Keep in mind you have your Rush Coil on your altfire, it can help a lot in some situations, as an escape, for either you or an ally. Or use it to push an enemy!
That's pretty much it. Megaman's other abilities are passive, so you don't need to worry about them, they do their job.

Role : Brutal Damage Dealer
TF2 Counterpart : Pyro
HP : 55%
ATK : 160%
SPE : 100%

The very offensive class. Can deal extremely high damage in very short amounts of time ("damage bursts"), but is very fragile. An ally you want to protect.
Starts with 5 special weapons and a shieldless and weaker Proto Buster.

Special abilities :
NORMALT : Proto Strikes : Starts the round with 4 Proto Strikes in stock. When charging Proto Buster, press alt to shoot the Proto Strike. It's a large, ripping projectile.
      You'll get some Proto Strike stacks after not taking damage for some time.
ALT : Precipitation : User gets double firing speed for a few seconds, but then receives half firing speed.
ITEM : Break Mode : A mode which can be toogled on/off. When the user damages a target with an attack in this mode, this target takes extra damage for a brief time.

My tip: if you mix both your altfire and item, you'll do a lot, a lot of damage. Make sure to manage them correctly and know what you're doing (don't mash your keyboard)
It's even better if your team is around to support you. If a Duo locks enemies for you, throw all what you have, especially if you have explosive weapons.
Don't be afraid to use your proto strikes, too.

Role : Movement Control
TF2 Counterpart : Scout
HP : 100%
ATK : 60%
SPE : 140% (1.12)

The mobility class. Helps allies dodging and improve the flow of the stage. Starts with 5 special weapons and a slower firing bass buster.

Special abilities :
> PASSIVE : Double jump : user can doublejump. :o
> ITEM : Dark Portals : Item to aim and create portals at medium range. They can be used by any ally to travel until the other side (1 set of portal at the same
   time/bass player), but enemies can't use them.
> ALT : Bassnium Magnet : Bass consumes some of his magnet ammo, to attract the targets toward him closer.
   MAINFIRE DURING ALT : Mainfire during Bassnium Magnet (when a target was caught in the beam) to immediatly fling the target symetrically in relation to the user.
      Needs at least half of the magnet ammo bar to use.

My tips: Use your super high mobility (movement + doublejump) to roam in the map quickly.
Create the portal in a portion of the map you think it's very useful. You don't need to activate and remove your portal every five seconds. Just lay it somewhere
on the map it can be useful until the end of the game (for a travel over a large pit, or to skip a tall ladder climbing, for instance)
Use your attracting altfire to prevent someone from running if that can help your team attack it, but usually just fling it to force it to come back to you (or into your delayed attacks : Hyper Bomb, Ice Wall... if you're that good at positionning)
Fling them into pit, that's a solution as well.
I'd say use the standard altfire attraction if you don't have the half ammo bar for flinging.

Role : Recovery Handler
TF2 Counterpart : Medic
HP : 150%
ATK : 100%
SPE : 116% (0.928)

Doesn't start with any special weapon. To compensate, she has better stats,as well as an "overdrive" attack when she's the last woman standing.
Her main attack (mainfire) is a beam buster which does very low but continuous damage at medium range.
 Roll is probably the class that will deal the less damage. (she'll spend more time healing than attacking)

Special abilities :
> ITEM : Naolin Pulse : Roll's buster drains HP when this item is activated. This has a ammo limit. Roll regains ammo for this when her max health gets reduced.
> ALTFIRE (WEAPON 1) Healing Beam : Hold buster altfire to continually heal a target. You can look at an ally to see their current health in %.
> MAINFIRE (WEAPON 2) Love Sanctuary : Roll heal herself and allies around. Is noisy on startup, user can't move and erosion increases when using it.
> ALTFIRE (WEAPON 2) Major Recovery : Tag a target. If this ally should die, it'll be brought back to full health instantly, but the user won't be able to use
   any healing ability for some time (gray color).
> ALTFIRE (WHEN ROLL IS THE LAST MAN STANDING) Roll Mob-Up Turbo :    Damaging enemies with the buster energy fills her rage bar. When full, use altfire to start ramming
   at high speed. When catching an opponent in the slide,   mash the altfire button as fast as you can to hit the enemy a lot of times! It does a lot of damage.
My tips: Use your healing beam (buster altfire) more than your actual damaging buster. Roll is way more useful when she heals than whe she tries to damage. You should heal as long as you have some allies.
The item is here when you need a quick healing and someone is chasing you. If nobody is chasing you, you could try healing yourself with the Love Sanctuary (weapon2 Main),
especially if you have lots of allies around, or in a large server.
You have the power to give 100% hp back to someone with your 2nd wep altfire, keep in mind that, but also keep in mind you won't be able to heal at all then for some time.
When last player standing, you'll actually want to kill people on your own ; that is why the broom exists. When ramming with the broom, you take heavily reduced damage and do a lot of damage, so if you mash the altfire button fast enough, you should be able to kill your targets
fast enough before they could actually kill you and it's more worth than poking at long range for hours with your buster. Try using your broom and mash hard, really.
Role : Team Protector
TF2 Counterpart : Heavy
HP : 250%
ATK : 100%
SPE : 57,5% (0.46)

The durable, defensive and protective class.
Starts with 5 special weapons and a shorter ranged and weaker Duo Fist.

Special abilities :
ALTFIRE : Cosmic Lock : Hold altfire to charge up to 3 levels, When released user rushes forward, then press a firing button again to crush the fist to the ground.
   Seismic waves attract, enemies, lock them, and Duo steals some HP for every target caught and damage them lightly.
   The user takes reduced damage when the fist shakes the ground, but can't move or jump.
   Charge to increase rush speed, quake attraction and duration.
ITEM : Sacrifice : User can tag an ally in front with item. Whenever this ally should receive damage, user will trade his place with it and the damage
   it should take will be redirected to the Duo.
PASSIVE : User regenerates health slowly. The regen increases briefly after taking damage.

My tips: this guy is very simple. When around your team, charge your altfire and get all the enemies locked to you for your team to attack them. When 1vs1 or in smaller games,
use your special weapons.
Use your damage interception item on a fragile target of your team, like a Wily or a Proto.
A nice combo is to have your tagged ally trick enemies into attacking them, while you charge your altfire, and then release it by surprise after trading positions.
That's pretty much it! Easy and effective.

Role : Disabler
TF2 Counterpart : Demoman (:I)
HP : 70%
ATK : 120%
SPE : 115%

Starts with 2 special weapons instead of 5, ranged and melee. To compensate, his default weapon, the Evil Plasma, is stronger than most weapons.
The fire rate on his special weapons are two times slower, but he has infinite ammo for them.

His buster is the Evil Plasma : 2 orbs rotate around user, damaging enemies nearby, even when switching to a special weapon.
Hold main to catch one orb and use it as a dagger for melee damage, release to throw it as a projectile. When it returns, it doesn't damage.

Wily has 3 special orbs. He can select them by tapping altfire, then using them by holding altfire.
> Frostbite Orbs : Send a swarm of 4 orbs, bouncing and blinding the targets they hit.
> Lashing Orbs : Send a swam of fire orbs controllable like remote mines. They slow down enemies when they explode on them and also deviate their aim!
> Gravitational Orb : Charge it by sending pulses of energy on the ground. After charging, release altfire to send a lightning orb which creates a glyph when it lands.
   The allies entering the glyph get lower gravity and better air control. Enemies entering it get higher gravity and worsen air control.
   Enemies entering it will also be attracted toward the core.
   You can only have 1 gravitationnal glyph for each team!
My tips: Wily's evil orbs are very polyvalent : you can use them as melee or ranged. Note that even when switching to a special wep, the orbs keep rotating around.
You could for instance switch to fire storm and get both the fire spin and the orb rotation damage around.
Wily's weapons have infinite ammo but slowed fire rate. Some weapons are definitely better on him, like high-consuming ammo weapons such as Magnet Missile.
Akin to Bass's portals, Wily's gravitationnal glyph is best summoned in an area it helps allies, try summoning it somewhere people come frequently, try to cover
as much area as possible with it.
His fire and ice orbs have two crowd control effects, slows and blind. I'd say use them when they're available or when you feel like it, then chain with some weapon
or with the Evil Plasma Orbs.

A few extra things.
Megaman, Protoman, Bass and Duo have an energy balancer.
The special weapon randomization is different for every player.

All damage are halved. With the default damage, players would get killed too fast (Protoman could literally kill someone in no time with his kit), and and this also put emphasis on resource management (mostly ammo management, for special weapons).
Due to that, the following weapons' damage are modified to make them not broken when it comes to one-shotting too easily :
> Atomic Fire : 100 ripper ==> 120 + (15 * additional rips)
> Top Spin : Halved damage
> Hyper Bomb: 200 damage max  ==> max damage capped at 110

Also take note of the Erosion system : there's a % on your screen (next to your HP bar), this percentage is only relevant when you or your team has any healing abilities.
When you take damage, a portion of the damage taken will be reduced from your max health (your max health gets "eroded"). If the percent is 20% for instance, and you take 50 damage, then your max health will be reduced by 10. This percent is the erosion coefficient.
This system is meant to limit infinite regeneration/sustain, and thus stalling.
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Well, while this sounds interesting...

...I'm not too keen on there being another version of Saxton Hale.

It's not that I don't want there to be Saxton Hale, but it feels like there are too many variants. Have you considered pitching your ++ Hales to another version and merging the two versions? I like your idea of making new Hales, but having three versions of Saxton that are the same except for differences in Hale choices doesn't seem very efficient and makes the Hale mode weaker as a whole, while putting all the new Hales in with the old Hales in a single game mode would work better, so long as they were balanced so one Hale by one person isn't OP compared to another person's Hale. Maybe Hale ++ and Hyper Saxton could merge forces, or both of those merge with Rebirth or Rebalanced when Tails returns to working on that.

You should definitely keep working on this, but I'd recommend looking to see if you can join together with another Hale mode so that you get one stronger mode rather than two weaker modes.

Now that you mention it, the existing versions of SH are uh...
Normal SH, Unholy, Rebalanced, Hyper SH, Rebirth, MMUnlimited SH if we can count it xD...
well either way that's a lot of versions, I agree. Right now the closest relationship my mod has with other's is with Hyper Saxton, as Otaku and me are making hales together, but not in the same mod :I we'll probably mix or something. A little later, if us modders could come up with a set of different works, and that they're REALLY interesting, THEN maybe we could contact SilverSin (or Balrog) about including them into the official one. Because you know it's been years there's no update on this Balrog's SH.

So yeah I'll try doing this, because also I can't handle to see that much server with barely different names dedicated to SH. Althrough, Unholy seems to use brand new mechanics (health scaling, speed and power) so I don't think it'll ever be mixed with the normal Saxton Hale.

Thanks for the advise :D

Well, Balrog has rather turned against Hale altogether, and I don't think I've ever met Silversin, so right now there isn't really a current "normal" Hale. Someone once theorized that the lack of a "main" Hale is the reason for so many offshoots.

But yeah, glad to see you'd be willing to work with Otaku. I think it would be fine if you worked on your Hales and when you got your five, then go to Otaku to negotiate the merge. You could call it Hyper++ Saxton Hale or some such.


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