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Stardust:
me makes way to much megamans 8 fightings games stuff since 201x
Mod-based modification (2023)
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(v1.0.0 - 2023/12/05) >>> Download <<<
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# ~ 1.0.0 ~
# [2023-12-05]
# MM8BDM v6b / Zandronum 3.2
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> Initial release
> Changes from "Damage Display" v2.c.1
- Doesn't clear target as a side effect anymore
- Frag/death count replaced by hit count
- Health changes color when invulnerable
- Now displays under when too close to ceiling
- +3 fonts for popup/health
- Removed "hide counter until death" because MM8BDM provides this info with sounds already
- Combo more colorful, window 1.0s => 0.6s
- Code optimization/clean
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Lightweight tool providing extra game settings like player properties change, custom objects spawning, or damage display.
Open the settings menu by typing modbm in console. /!\ Restarting the map is needed to apply changes /!\
Type mbm in console to view all active effects.
Below is the description of each setting and how to change them from the console
Parameters
General game modifiers
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--- Quote ---> Damage Damage dealt multiplier in percentage, for player or non-players
--- Quote ---mbm_dmgplayer 50 <-- Players deal half damage
mbm_dmgnonplayer 200 <-- [Anything other than a player] deals double damage
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> Drain Heals the source by a percentage of damage dealt
--- Quote ---mbm_drainplayer 200 <-- Players heal for 200% of damage dealt
mbm_drainnonplayer 10 <-- [Anything other than a player] heals for 10% of damage dealt
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> HP Regen Heals a percentage of the source's maximum health per second. For players, it can be negative. For non-players, only monsters can use it, and it must be positive
--- Quote ---mbm_regenplayer -2.5 <-- Depletes 2.5% of players' max health per second
mbm_regenmonster 30 <-- Heal 30% of monsters' max health per second
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> Move Running speed multiplier in percentage for players
--- Quote ---mbm_movespeed 150 <-- Run 50% faster
mbm_movespeed 50 <-- Run speed halved
mbm_movespeed -200 <-- Run speed doubled, but controls are reversed
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> Jump Jump height multiplier in percentage for players
--- Quote ---mbm_jumpheight 300 <-- Jump 3 times as high
mbm_jumpheight 50 <-- Jump half as high
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> Spread shot Players' weapon fire in spread of 3
--- Quote ---mbm_powerspread 1 <-- To enable
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> Double fire rate Players' weapon fire twice as fast
--- Quote ---mbm_powerrage 1 <-- To enable
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> Flight Players can fly
--- Quote ---mbm_powerflight 1 <-- To enable
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> Floor crawling Players can't jump and instantly climb cliffs on collision
--- Quote ---mbm_floorcrawler 1 <-- To enable
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> Extra jumps Additional jumps allowed until player reaches the ground
--- Quote ---mbm_airjumps 3 <-- Can jump 3 extra times
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> Wall jumps Players can bounce off walls this much times, until they reach the ground
--- Quote ---mbm_walljumps 2 <-- Can do 2 wall jumps
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> Allowed classes A list of DECORATE actors players can use. It switches the player's class when entering the game if their class is not on the list. Type playerclasses in console to check for the class = xxx identifier which is the one to write on this list.
--- Quote ---mbm_classes rathorc,darkman4,hyperstormh <-- Switch the player to a random one of these 3 if their class isn't one of them
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> Fog Adds a colorated fog to the map. The higher the density in percentage (max 100), the more visibility is impacted, that is brightness and original colors
--- Quote ---mbm_fogcolor "FF 00 00" <-- Red fog
mbm_fogdensity 80 <-- Dense fog
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Objects
Spawn objects on certain events
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For Summons and Drops below
The spawned objects can be any DECORATE actor. The game can run into issues (performance drops/crash) if
not properly managed, so unless you are advanced user, I recommend to use presets (and with reasonable amount)
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Summons
If the object is an Inventory item, it will be given.
Else, it will be spawned. Projectiles are shot with their speed.
On Spawn Summon the object to a player who enters the game or respawn
A list of comma-separated DECORATE actor. Max 16
--- Quote ---mbm_onspawn rollingcutterwep <-- rolling cutter is given on (re)spawn
mbm_onspawn ToyCutman,AstroCrushSpawner,BassUpgrade <-- on (re)spawn a toy prop and astro crush rain are summoned and get bass buster upgrade
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Periodic
Summon the object to a player every tic for AAA tics, then wait BBB tics (one second = 35 tics), and repeat. Max. 8 different objects
Summon a list of comma-separated DECORATE actor
Every a list of corresponding comma-separated AAA,BBB
--- Quote ---mbm_summon wtank
mbm_every 1,349 <-- receive 1 wtank every 10 seconds (1 tic of wtanks + 349 of waiting => 350)
mbm_summon LightningBoltTracer,SmallHealth,ThunderTrail,
mbm_every 1,69,1,349,1,3 <-- shoot 1 bolt every 2 second, get health every 10, and have an electric trail
mbm_summon HomingSniper,flashbombtrail
mbm_every 5,100,12,93 <-- shoot five homing sniper and 12 tics of smoke decoration every 3 seconds
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Drops
Drops objects spawn with a random probability when a specific unit (a player, or a monster) dies
Drops objects to drop : a list of comma-separated DECORATE actor. Max 8
Rates the probability they will spawn, as percents. A list of respective comma-separated numbers (0 to 100, can be decimal)
Special case : if only 1 rate is provided, all drops will use this rate
Selection (Type) All (0) allows every item to spawn. One (1) chooses one randomly
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mbm_pdrop wtank,superarmwep,FlashStopper
mbm_prate 100,10,3.5
mbm_ptype 0 <--- When a player dies, a WTank will always spawn and a Super arm weapon (10% chance) and a flash stopper trap (3.5% chance)
mbm_pdrop tornadoholdwep,tengubladewep
mbm_prate 10,20
mbm_ptype 1 <--- When a player dies, either : [Tornado Hold spawns with 10% chance] or [Tengu Blade spawns with 20% chance]
mbm_mdrop chasemet,MTank,MagicDeath
mbm_mrate 25,0.1,100
mbm_mtype 0 <--- When a monster dies, another monster will spawn (25% chance) and a MTank (0.1% chance) and there will always be a fancy explosion
mbm_mdrop marsrocket,WaveBubble,CountBomb,IceBlock
mbm_mrate 50
mbm_mtype 1 <--- When a monster dies, [Mars Rocket spawns with 50%] or [Wave Bubble platform spawns with 50%] or [Countbomb spawns with 50%] or [Ice Cube spawns with 50%]
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Information
Damage and health tracking
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--- Quote ---> Enabled? Disables all information features below if not enabled
--- Quote ---mbm_information 1 <-- To enable information
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> (Enemy) Scan HP enabled ? Allow players to see any other player or monster's health. For monsters, health is only revealed (for a few seconds) upon taking damage
--- Quote ---mbm_enemy_scan 1 <-- To enable
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(Health)
--- Quote ---Popup Display the damage (any actor) and the heals (players/monster only) amount received as a popup
--- Quote ---mbm_popup 1 <-- as flat
mbm_popup 2 <-- as a percent
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Scan HP Display player and monsters' health.
[Ally] displays allied players' health
[Enemy] displays any monster or non-ally player's health, but"(Enemy) Scan HP enabled" setting must be enabled as well
--- Quote ---mbm_ally_scan 1 <-- ally health as flat
mbm_enemy_scan_user 2 <-- enemy health as a percent
mbm_ally_scan 3 <-- ally health as a health bar
mbm_enemy_scan_user 3 <-- enemy health as a health bar
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Font Font to use for popup and HP scan
--- Quote ---mbm_font 0 <-- classic font
mbm_font 1 <-- second classic font
mbm_font 2 <-- megaman battle network font
mbm_font 3 <-- megaman x6 font
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(Counters)
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[PvP] (DM,LMS,Duel,CTF...) only attacks on players is tracked. Also the tracker doesn't reset between rounds on modes such as LMS/posession/invasion
[PvM] (Coop,Survival,Invasion) only attacks on monsters which count toward kill percentage is tracked
Damage Display damage dealt with the current/past lives
--- Quote ---mbm_damage_counter 1 <-- as flat
mbm_damage_counter 2 <-- as a percent
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Hits Display hits landed with the current/past lives
--- Quote ---mbm_hit_counter 1 <-- to enable
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Combo Display a successive (within 0.6s) hits counter
--- Quote ---mbm_combo 1 <-- to enable
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X-Pos and Y-Pos To position counters on the screen (from 0 to 100)
--- Quote ---mbm_hud_x 80 <-- damage/hits to the right side
mbm_hud_y 20 <-- damage/hits to the top of screen
mbm_hud_combo 80 <-- combo to the bottom of screen
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Misc
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--- Quote ---Credits
- MM8BDM devteam / Capcom
- Heelnavi for Classic 2 font
- Main menu icons (spriters-resource) : Solink, Dazz, Davias, Romsstar
- Sprites Inc
Bugs, suggestions, contact etc
1) This thread
2) Discord or
3) Github)
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--- Quote ---to be R&D
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XOVER Weapons (2022)
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/!\ Playable in v6A only! Is not yet compatible with v6B /!\
(LATEST - v2.1.0 - 2021/12/26) Download (click to show/hide)
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# -- GAMEPLAY -- #
> GENERAL
> Added 11 new Xover Weapons
> Added compatibility with Cooperative/Survival/Invasion ("PvM") game modes
Xover Weapons work against monsters and won't hinder allies
> Xover Weapons options menu :
- Added a "Update log" menu recapping this changelog
- Added a game setting to multiply fusion prices (x0, x1, x2, x3, x4, x8)
- Added a game setting to discard Xover Weapon ingredients on death
- Added a game setting to keep weapons between maps (PvM modes only)
- Removed the game setting to toggle item drop (screws/weapons) on death
> Changed recipe Mix recipe animation to stay on screen
> Changed players either drop screws or one of their vanilla weapon on death =>
now players always drop screws on death, and if killed by a Xover Weapon,
will also drop one of their vanilla weapons
> SCREWS
> Changed screw economy. Old (left) and new (right) fusion prices are :
From\To 2D 3D 4D 5D From\To 2D 3D 4D 5D
1D 100 150 175 185 1D 100 200 300 400
2D --- 120 180 210 2D --- 150 275 400
3D --- --- 150 225 3D --- --- 250 400
4D --- --- --- 200 4D --- --- --- 400
> Changed screw gains from pickups : small/medium/large 25/60/100 => 50/125/200
> Changed screws replacing ammo probability 33% => 40% of the time
> Changed screws/ammo respawn timer 30s => 18s
> Changed starting screws (50 + [0,185 based on # of players]) =>
50 (for PvP game modes) 0 (for PvM game modes)
> Removed screws refund on uncombining
# -- WEAPONS -- #
> AIMING LASER
> Uncharged attack
- Damage 9*2 => 11*2
- Ammo cost 3.0 => 2.25 units
- RoF 1.17/s => 0.972/s
- Can now target any shootable object
- Added target count display on screen
> Charged attack
- Changed sound effect and obituary
> COUNTERSHADING TRACER
> Damage now increases over projectile life time
> Over time increase :
- Damage : 40 => [30 to 92]
- Seeking angle [6 to 76] => [12 to 85]
- Seeking range [64 to 320] => [128 to 640]
> RoF 0.625/s => 0.36/s
> Ammo cost 4.0 => 5.5 units
> DELAY FLAME
> Added new sound effect to distinguish with Atomic Fire's
> FOREST WHIP
> Whip
- Dunks twice as hard
- Now uses a continuous formula for locking duration
- Sprite is now affected by online latency to better reflect the whip's position
> Bramble
- Radius 80 => 50, height 80 => 128 (matching sprite height)
- Damage doesn't fall off with distance anymore
- Added sound effects to distinguish with Slash Claw's
> GLUE SHOT
> Block health 75 => 50 (same as Concrete Shot block)
> Damage 33 => 30
> Now applies 25% of the fully stacked slow effect on hit
> GROUND DASH
> Uncharged attack
- Now resets player pitch to match the rock's trajectory when aimed too low
> Charged attack
- Damage 16 => 13
- Speed when bumped (based on how big the boulder) : [15 to 8] => [23 to 10]
- Bumping detection more generous
- The boulder's HP depletes over time in non-PVP game modes
> HELLFIRE CUTTER
> Now returns after half a second
> Ammo cost 4.0 => 5.0 units
> ICE GATLING
> Hits required to freeze 10 => 13, frozen duration 2.0 => 3.0s
> Ice round damage 2 => 1, speed 35 => 48
> LEAF BOOMERANG
> Gives a new leaf if one didn't return after 3.0s => 1.7s
> MELT CREEPER
> Wave stops after 14.17s => 7.3s
> RoF 0.55/s => 0.69/s
> Ammo cost (charged) 8.0 => 6.5 units
> The first column spawns one step ahead (rather than on user's position)
> METGUARD FAMILY
> MetGuard1 cooldown increased by 0.43s
> MetGuard2 cooldown increased by 0.29s
> MetGuard1 and MetGuard2 damage 17 => 22
> MetGuard3 and MetGuard3EX
- Shockwave now clips to upper sectors
> MetGuard3EX
- Poison panel duration 2.74s => 4.11s
> RECYCLE INHALER
> Can now pull vertically
> Can't pull players through monster blocking lines ("pits") anymore
> Damage 27 => 24
> Auto-releases after hitting a target
> Recycle players into 3 random pickups => one R-Tank (fully restores HP)
and 2 random pickups. Health and screws are removed from the pickup list
> SONIC SLICER
> Charged attack
- Can now also damage objects
- Min/max damage over time 18/69 => 28/78
- Ammo cost 8.0 => 6.5 units
> SUPER ARROW
> Arrow HP : infinite => 160
> Doesn't block ripping projectiles anymore
> Won't damage/vanish on enemy contact when held
> Automatically releases after two seconds of hold
> Crashing radius 26 => 34
> Maximum up/down angle while traveling 3 => 5
> Ammo cost 4 => 3.25 units
> THOUSAND KNIVES
> Knives pattern reworked into a slower, accurate and hard hitstunning attack
> THOUSAND SPEAR FAMILY
> Stab damage 6 => 7, final thrust 16 => 18
> Lateral stabs delay 0.09s => 0.91s
> Now only use RNG for its pitch direction
> Thousand Spear
- Momentum gain 6 => 9 (final thrust)
> Thousand Spear V2/V3/V5
- Momentum gain 2 => 3 (stab), 6 => 12 (final thrust)
> Thousand Spear V5
- Summoned soldier
+ Vanishes after 6 => 4 seconds
+ Is summoned with a burst of forward speed
+ Attack damage 2 => 4
+ Locks target for 0.77s => 1.26s
+ Has a more natural behavior
> TIME BOMB
> Damage 28 => 24
> Max damage reached at quarter => half radius
> Explosion radius 192 => 256
> Slow strength 40% => 69%
> Slow duration 2.08s => 1.29s
> TRIAD THUNDER
> Moved uncharged attack obituary to charged attack and got a new one
> Charged attack
- Quake min/max damage 3/10 => 2/8
- Quake can now damage objects
- Lightning ball damage 10 => 22
> WHITE ROSE CLUSTER
> Uncharged orb damage 30 => 26
> Mid charged orb
- Damage same as fully charged (melee 10 => 13, thrown 14 => 16)
- Ammo cost 6.0 => 5.0 units
> Fully charged orb
- (melee and thrown) Damage now falls with range in the outer 33% orb radius
> YOGA INFERNO
> Damage 11 => 12
> Cost 5.0 => 4.0 units
# -- BUGFIXES-- #
> GENERAL
> Recipe Mix's randomly given recipe doesn't favor anymore the leftmost
weapon ingredients on the current map weapon list. It truely is random now
> Corrected "Power up! [Weapon name]" message and Xover Weapon bar colors
sometimes being displayed erroneously online
> Recipe Mix bags shouldn't unsync online anymore
> Ammo and screws now don't respawn if sv_itemrespawn is disabled
> Xover Weapons now won't consume ammo if sv_infiniteammo is enabled
> Fixed an issue where the registered fusions weren't cleared, diverging
from the player's actually owned fusions
> The screen properly clears Xover Weapons ammo bars and the crafting table
when joining the dead spectators in game modes like (T)LMS or Survival
> Xover Weapons' tag name's color doesn't affect the text coming after anymore
> Screws dropped by players now properly eventually vanish
> Fixed the generic animated bar's animation
> Vanilla weapons stay on map when picked up, rather than respawning
half a second later
> WEAPONS
> Glue Shot
- Block shouldn't get players stuck inside anymore
- Block sprite displays properly if voxels are turned off
- Voxel lateral offset properly centered
> Ground Dash
- Fixed other players seeing a charged attack boulder's health by damaging it
- Uncharged rock properly bounces (visually) on walls online
> Hellfire Cutter
- Can't mark non-players anymore
> Ice Gatling
- Now properly prevent frozen enemies from firing
- Rate of fire now doesn't erroneously wait an extra 0.06s every 6 shots
> Sonic Slicer
- Uncharged attack properly vanishes and damage certain non-players
> Thousand Spear V5
- Soldiers correctly vanish after a set time, even if they are stabbing something
> Time Bomb
- Fixed speed down arrows inconsistant display
- Properly disappears (visually) on negative gravity ceiling contact
> KNOWN BUGS
> If Xover Weapons are kept between PvM maps, a player dieing on map start
(likely due to telefrag because of the map not having enough spawn spots)
might glitch their weapon inventory. Enabling sv_unblockallies prevents
this issue, but it's the mappers' job to have sufficient spawn spots
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(v2 - 2021/07/09) Download
(v1b - 2014/08/19) Download
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Credits
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--- Quote ---Trying to keep track of as much resource/rips being used and their author as possible, but missing some is not impossible ; contact me in which case I'll add your name
- CutmanMike and the MM8BDM devteam for the best Mega Man fan-game and engine
- Including Capcom for Mega Man franchise and many sprites/sound effects
- Heelnavi, Blews, IamaMedalHunter and Ivan for helping with testing
- Sprites INC for many Capcom Mega Man series-related sprites/graphics rips you know how it goes
- Many of the Xover Weapons are references to other (fan) game/series, as such original design/sprites credit goes to them :
- Rokko chan (Forest Whip)
- Rockman No Constancy (Delay Flame)
- Rockman 4 Minus Infinity (Recycle Inhaler)
- Mega Man Rock N Roll (Blast Missile)
- Megamari (Thousand Knives, White Rose Cluster)
- Mega Man Unlimited (Glue Shot)
- Mega Man Super Fighting Robot (Leaf Boomerang)
- Street Fighter x Mega Man (Yoga Inferno)
- Mighty Number 9/Gunvolt (&Burst) (Brandishing Blade/Countershading Tracer)
- Sonic Robo Blast 2 (Scatter Ring)
- SRB2Kart (Jawz Hunters)
- Mega Man Rock Force (Virus Outbreak/Photon Flare)
- Viewtiful Joe (Red Hot Kick)
- Some HUD, sprites and sound effects here and there from V-Classes and YD Classes
- Player re-solidifier code taken from YD Classes
- SuperJustinBros (Dr Light art) - Zdagger67 (Mega Man custom font)
- Hansungkee (some effects/explosions)
- Heelnavi (many weapon icons MetGuard sprites)
- Spriters' resource rips : King Kirby (custom mettaur), Dolphman (Sonic 3), Friesnchip (Digimon Battle Spirit 2), Dazz (Paper Mario),Silverbolt (MMX-styled Viewtiful Joe), Random Talking Bush (MMX weapon palettes),
- tsukiyomaru0/Dimpsy (some Super Arrow stuff)
- Grundle for some Mega Man Rock Force rips
- Photon Flare wave sprites rotation/Red Hot Kick HUD edit from the Non Canon classes mod
- some resources from CSCC's TheBladeRoden and CutmanMike's classes
- some Doom/Strife effects
- a lot of sound effect material taken from various NES/other 8-bit consoles ripped on the Sounds Resource
- Copy Vision clone running frame by Geno
- Boomerang Cutter rotations from the 201X MMX Classes mod
- Game startup art original map :
- 2.1.0 : DRSG16 (Star Crator) from Duora Super Gyro's DRSG Rebirth map pack
- 2.0.0 : IDM06 (Decommissioning Plant) from Ivory's IX-PACK map pack
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Teamwork Classes (2016)
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--- Quote ---TEAMWORK CLASSES
or SHR++ V3 Classes
or overly complexi..ca..Ted classes
Download links
(LATEST : beta 1 - early 2016)
Main file : Download
Resources : Download
(you need both. You need to FIRST add the resources, THEN the main file)
This is a small mod (eh), a class mod, a mix between Saxton Hale and classes mods like YD/JC. Not meant to give another view on the robot masters, it's actually simply, the classes that were designed for SHR++ V3. Due to how long Saxton Hale takes to make, I decided to release the classes separately for the moment.
These classes were redesigned with an actual aim, making them truely unique with unique abilities, and giving them all a role (and teamwork-based abilities on the top of that).
This mod is still in a beta phase so it's far from being balanced or anything.
That's pretty much it. The classes are very complex but yeah there's not much else to say.
This mod is played in 1 live, 2-teams TLMS.
Here is finally the guide/how to play the classes !! (since they were so confusing)
I try to keep it as simple and objective as possible as it's already overly complex in-game.
In a general way, classes work like this. They have a buster (default weapon), for most of them, special weapons (like in vanilla TLMS), and then have either PASSIVE
abilities, or active abilities, on their ALTFIRE or on their ITEM.
(click to show/hide)MEGAMAN
Role : Weaponry Manager
TF2 Counterpart : Soldier
HP : 100%
ATK : 100%
SPEED : 100%
The closest class to vanilla MM8BDM. Simple and effective, very polyvalent ans easy to use in general.
Starts with 5 special weapons and the good old Mega Buster, like in a casual TLMS!
Special abilities :
ALTFIRE : Rush Coil weapon : a Rush Coil with an ammo bar! This rush coil can be summoned at long range, and be used by both you and your allies! If enemies use it,
they'll be knocked aside (like a bumper). It's very fast and practical to use in all situations.
PASSIVES: > As long as Megaman lives, his team gains ammo once in a while. (Can be seen with the blue ammo bar, over the HP bar.) More Megamen = more ammo. Of course
he regens his own ammo as well.
> Drops a few weapons when he dies (for his team to collect)
> ...is able to change skins ( :o ) (not really a "skill" but yeah)
My tips: Megaman is very similar to regular TLMS, play him if you want to keep things simple and traditionnal.
Keep in mind you have your Rush Coil on your altfire, it can help a lot in some situations, as an escape, for either you or an ally. Or use it to push an enemy!
That's pretty much it. Megaman's other abilities are passive, so you don't need to worry about them, they do their job.
PROTOMAN
Role : Brutal Damage Dealer
TF2 Counterpart : Pyro
HP : 55%
ATK : 160%
SPE : 100%
The very offensive class. Can deal extremely high damage in very short amounts of time ("damage bursts"), but is very fragile. An ally you want to protect.
Starts with 5 special weapons and a shieldless and weaker Proto Buster.
Special abilities :
NORMALT : Proto Strikes : Starts the round with 4 Proto Strikes in stock. When charging Proto Buster, press alt to shoot the Proto Strike. It's a large, ripping projectile.
You'll get some Proto Strike stacks after not taking damage for some time.
ALT : Precipitation : User gets double firing speed for a few seconds, but then receives half firing speed.
ITEM : Break Mode : A mode which can be toogled on/off. When the user damages a target with an attack in this mode, this target takes extra damage for a brief time.
My tip: if you mix both your altfire and item, you'll do a lot, a lot of damage. Make sure to manage them correctly and know what you're doing (don't mash your keyboard)
It's even better if your team is around to support you. If a Duo locks enemies for you, throw all what you have, especially if you have explosive weapons.
Don't be afraid to use your proto strikes, too.
BASS
Role : Movement Control
TF2 Counterpart : Scout
HP : 100%
ATK : 60%
SPE : 140% (1.12)
The mobility class. Helps allies dodging and improve the flow of the stage. Starts with 5 special weapons and a slower firing bass buster.
Special abilities :
> PASSIVE : Double jump : user can doublejump. :o
> ITEM : Dark Portals : Item to aim and create portals at medium range. They can be used by any ally to travel until the other side (1 set of portal at the same
time/bass player), but enemies can't use them.
> ALT : Bassnium Magnet : Bass consumes some of his magnet ammo, to attract the targets toward him closer.
MAINFIRE DURING ALT : Mainfire during Bassnium Magnet (when a target was caught in the beam) to immediatly fling the target symetrically in relation to the user.
Needs at least half of the magnet ammo bar to use.
My tips: Use your super high mobility (movement + doublejump) to roam in the map quickly.
Create the portal in a portion of the map you think it's very useful. You don't need to activate and remove your portal every five seconds. Just lay it somewhere
on the map it can be useful until the end of the game (for a travel over a large pit, or to skip a tall ladder climbing, for instance)
Use your attracting altfire to prevent someone from running if that can help your team attack it, but usually just fling it to force it to come back to you (or into your delayed attacks : Hyper Bomb, Ice Wall... if you're that good at positionning)
Fling them into pit, that's a solution as well.
I'd say use the standard altfire attraction if you don't have the half ammo bar for flinging.
ROLL
Role : Recovery Handler
TF2 Counterpart : Medic
HP : 150%
ATK : 100%
SPE : 116% (0.928)
Doesn't start with any special weapon. To compensate, she has better stats,as well as an "overdrive" attack when she's the last woman standing.
Her main attack (mainfire) is a beam buster which does very low but continuous damage at medium range.
Roll is probably the class that will deal the less damage. (she'll spend more time healing than attacking)
Special abilities :
> ITEM : Naolin Pulse : Roll's buster drains HP when this item is activated. This has a ammo limit. Roll regains ammo for this when her max health gets reduced.
> ALTFIRE (WEAPON 1) Healing Beam : Hold buster altfire to continually heal a target. You can look at an ally to see their current health in %.
> MAINFIRE (WEAPON 2) Love Sanctuary : Roll heal herself and allies around. Is noisy on startup, user can't move and erosion increases when using it.
> ALTFIRE (WEAPON 2) Major Recovery : Tag a target. If this ally should die, it'll be brought back to full health instantly, but the user won't be able to use
any healing ability for some time (gray color).
> ALTFIRE (WHEN ROLL IS THE LAST MAN STANDING) Roll Mob-Up Turbo : Damaging enemies with the buster energy fills her rage bar. When full, use altfire to start ramming
at high speed. When catching an opponent in the slide, mash the altfire button as fast as you can to hit the enemy a lot of times! It does a lot of damage.
My tips: Use your healing beam (buster altfire) more than your actual damaging buster. Roll is way more useful when she heals than whe she tries to damage. You should heal as long as you have some allies.
The item is here when you need a quick healing and someone is chasing you. If nobody is chasing you, you could try healing yourself with the Love Sanctuary (weapon2 Main),
especially if you have lots of allies around, or in a large server.
You have the power to give 100% hp back to someone with your 2nd wep altfire, keep in mind that, but also keep in mind you won't be able to heal at all then for some time.
When last player standing, you'll actually want to kill people on your own ; that is why the broom exists. When ramming with the broom, you take heavily reduced damage and do a lot of damage, so if you mash the altfire button fast enough, you should be able to kill your targets
fast enough before they could actually kill you and it's more worth than poking at long range for hours with your buster. Try using your broom and mash hard, really.
DUO
Role : Team Protector
TF2 Counterpart : Heavy
HP : 250%
ATK : 100%
SPE : 57,5% (0.46)
The durable, defensive and protective class.
Starts with 5 special weapons and a shorter ranged and weaker Duo Fist.
Special abilities :
ALTFIRE : Cosmic Lock : Hold altfire to charge up to 3 levels, When released user rushes forward, then press a firing button again to crush the fist to the ground.
Seismic waves attract, enemies, lock them, and Duo steals some HP for every target caught and damage them lightly.
The user takes reduced damage when the fist shakes the ground, but can't move or jump.
Charge to increase rush speed, quake attraction and duration.
ITEM : Sacrifice : User can tag an ally in front with item. Whenever this ally should receive damage, user will trade his place with it and the damage
it should take will be redirected to the Duo.
PASSIVE : User regenerates health slowly. The regen increases briefly after taking damage.
My tips: this guy is very simple. When around your team, charge your altfire and get all the enemies locked to you for your team to attack them. When 1vs1 or in smaller games,
use your special weapons.
Use your damage interception item on a fragile target of your team, like a Wily or a Proto.
A nice combo is to have your tagged ally trick enemies into attacking them, while you charge your altfire, and then release it by surprise after trading positions.
That's pretty much it! Easy and effective.
WILY
Role : Disabler
TF2 Counterpart : Demoman (:I)
HP : 70%
ATK : 120%
SPE : 115%
Starts with 2 special weapons instead of 5, ranged and melee. To compensate, his default weapon, the Evil Plasma, is stronger than most weapons.
The fire rate on his special weapons are two times slower, but he has infinite ammo for them.
His buster is the Evil Plasma : 2 orbs rotate around user, damaging enemies nearby, even when switching to a special weapon.
Hold main to catch one orb and use it as a dagger for melee damage, release to throw it as a projectile. When it returns, it doesn't damage.
Wily has 3 special orbs. He can select them by tapping altfire, then using them by holding altfire.
> Frostbite Orbs : Send a swarm of 4 orbs, bouncing and blinding the targets they hit.
> Lashing Orbs : Send a swam of fire orbs controllable like remote mines. They slow down enemies when they explode on them and also deviate their aim!
> Gravitational Orb : Charge it by sending pulses of energy on the ground. After charging, release altfire to send a lightning orb which creates a glyph when it lands.
The allies entering the glyph get lower gravity and better air control. Enemies entering it get higher gravity and worsen air control.
Enemies entering it will also be attracted toward the core.
You can only have 1 gravitationnal glyph for each team!
My tips: Wily's evil orbs are very polyvalent : you can use them as melee or ranged. Note that even when switching to a special wep, the orbs keep rotating around.
You could for instance switch to fire storm and get both the fire spin and the orb rotation damage around.
Wily's weapons have infinite ammo but slowed fire rate. Some weapons are definitely better on him, like high-consuming ammo weapons such as Magnet Missile.
Akin to Bass's portals, Wily's gravitationnal glyph is best summoned in an area it helps allies, try summoning it somewhere people come frequently, try to cover
as much area as possible with it.
His fire and ice orbs have two crowd control effects, slows and blind. I'd say use them when they're available or when you feel like it, then chain with some weapon
or with the Evil Plasma Orbs.
A few extra things.
Megaman, Protoman, Bass and Duo have an energy balancer.
The special weapon randomization is different for every player.
All damage are halved. With the default damage, players would get killed too fast (Protoman could literally kill someone in no time with his kit), and and this also put emphasis on resource management (mostly ammo management, for special weapons).
Due to that, the following weapons' damage are modified to make them not broken when it comes to one-shotting too easily :
> Atomic Fire : 100 ripper ==> 120 + (15 * additional rips)
> Top Spin : Halved damage
> Hyper Bomb: 200 damage max ==> max damage capped at 110
Also take note of the Erosion system : there's a % on your screen (next to your HP bar), this percentage is only relevant when you or your team has any healing abilities.
When you take damage, a portion of the damage taken will be reduced from your max health (your max health gets "eroded"). If the percent is 20% for instance, and you take 50 damage, then your max health will be reduced by 10. This percent is the erosion coefficient.
This system is meant to limit infinite regeneration/sustain, and thus stalling.
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Speed Course (2015)
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Download links :
(LATEST : Alpha - Around July 2015) Download
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This is a old prototype for a racing mod. It is heavily inspired by Crash Team Racing.
Includes 1 track and 6 vehicles with different top speed, acceleration and handling stats.
You can do air tricks by timing your jump on certain edges (and gain a turbo boost when landing)
Screws increase your speed.
Still just a prototype but I felt like making it public available for experimental/museum purposes
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Classes' stage taunt pack (2014)
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--- Quote ---Download links :
(LATEST : v5 - 06/09/2014) Download
At the occasion of the release of MM8 classes, I made a taunt pack you can enjoy or do whatever you want with. This pack allows you to play your favourite Robot Masters' themes ! The theme lasts from about 4 to 8 seconds. Keep constantly taunting and let the RM's theme follow your TLMS fights. Feel like you're battling against other robots from other stages, with other mechanisms :I
HOW TO USE :
1) Download and put the file in the SKINS folder
2) Define a TAUNT key in Options ==> Setup controllings (or something) in the game menu
3) Press the TAUNT key
4) ???
5) Profit !
inb4 everyone uses the boss of the current stage being played
inb4 concertos everywhere
inb4 harmony of 8-bits my ears are happy and I don't get mad anymore because of grenarmaggedon
--- Quote ---v5 adds Sniper Joe's, Auto, Sunstar, randomly &Bass or MM8 music versions for Astro/Tengu, MM&B RMs, King included, the MM9 RMs + Fake Man included, MMUnlimited RMs -- Yoku Hammer Mysterious character included
v4 removed a small blank at the start of a MMV taunt, and buffed the volume even more! Sorry for the fast update.
v3 added the Mega Man V themes (only available in Justified Classes)
v2 buffed the global volume of the taunts.
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Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ (2014)
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IMPORTANT NOTE : Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ is very outdated as development stopped, it is currently (2021) being updated by MegaVile for MM8BDM-v6 (discord link : https://discord.gg/byWgQcF)
The SHR++ description below is just kept for history/legacy purposes I guess
Just call it SHR++ for short
...Saxton Hale again, it strikes back (it never left through). The name of this mod is inspired by Sega's Sonic Mega Collection + videogame, a big collection including all the old Genesis Sonic games. The ++ means, it's basically SH, but... double plus because it's cool
This mod is a merging between Saxton Hale Plus Plus and Saxton Hale Rebirth. I and TailsMK4 both decided to mix our mods' names into one so that way, we don't have to come up with another other name... the title is explicit. SHR++ = SH++ + SHR
In other words, this mod mixes at the same time the potential of Rebirth and ++ so the final product is an homogenous and fun project to play
The new and future hales also have a different gameplay than "melee clones with a different rage". This is a past idea in our mod. The hale stereotype isn't a thing anymore.
More in depth, there are some more aims to make it more enjoyable and fresher. I thought we lacked of hales that have the following properties, that's why I was influenced by these parameters :
--- Quote ---==> Hales that attack at medium range, or even long range
==> Hales that don't always OHKO
==> Hales that follow a more original pattern than a simple melee attack... each hale has his own fighting system, and his own good/bad points, they could even be complex to use ; but at least, they're NOT anymore COPIES of EACH OTHER for sure X___X
==> More Megaman-related hales.. I hope.
==> More girl hales :>
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If you want to edit or use our mod for another project, PLEASE before doing so, PM me or Tails in the thread what are you up to :/
K thanks for reading :D you get a pat on the head
Diary of (important) updates :
(click to show/hide)21/06/14 SHR++ was updated so you can play it with the Mega Man & Bass update ; changelog is located to page 27 or something c:
2/05/14 3 months later... RIDE OOON! It's time again~~! Tails is now my partner and like he said, we are going to work on the same mode. SH++ is called now SHRebirth++ and features parts of both Rebirth and ++! We really hope this merging won't be disappointing, because not only more than 3+ new hales are available, but we also modified some old hales, and many other fixes, rebalancements and new features! Enjoy! :D
The boss descriptions were updated and shortened for less BS mode, and you can see the detailed changelog right here~~
1/02/14 : Cleaned up some parts of this post, so it's shorter. All the screenshots of the new hales are mixed into one tab.
27/11/13 : It's time~~! I release my mod SH++ v1A this day. The all-first version may be quickly updated to a second or third versions because some hales might be unbalanced =) unfortunately, my betatesting team wasn't enough big to recreate a big server :/
I'll be hosting a server with Saxton Hale ++. Due to my hate of Saxton Hale's popularity (I enjoy it, but I blame it at the same time for being the --almost-- only mode being played), I might take down my servers temporarily to force people play something else than Saxton Hale >_< it sounds silly but meh
To come back to the actual news, SH++ hasn't classes so don't be surprised, instead enjoy being able to use the skins :D
I'll be often present in my servers to receive feedbacks about balancing :D
24/11/13 : I'm getting closer to the end. The release should come soon :3
22/11/13 : Nah, it's not dead, not at all, I've on the contrary been busy working with it. I've only ONE hale left, but like Seemen and Cave Story, that's a "team" hale, so it takes more time to code, especially because EACH member has its own skills :/
I decided to give Remilia back her old theme : Diana Boncheva feat. BanYa - Beethoven Virus, because her theme, Septette for the Dead Princess, was too mainstream for me >_<
6/11/13 : Added a picture of the 5th and final hale's HUD
1/11/13 : Remilia's theme is now a 8-bit cover of her actual theme by Skutieos7 (previous theme was Diana Boncheva feat. BanYa - Beethoven Virus)
30/11/13 : Finished the 4th hale on my side
27/11/13 : Just divided the "change from the official SH" section into Gameplay and Audio/Graphic for sorting things
25/11/13 : Incoming BUNCH of screenshots ! For older or new hales, enjoy the view :D :I
Some minor stuff concerning older hales was also added to the Change from Saxton Hale section
I revealed Remilia Scarlet's theme because meh.
20/11/13 : Due to suggestions, Pissed Off Roll is confirmed to come back, after so much players wanted her cute voice back. Of course, I'm not PORoll's maker, this is SilverSin's work.
19/11/13 : Added a picture of the 3rd hale's HUD in the Screenshots section.
18/11/13 : Even more stuff in the "Changes from the official Saxton Hale" were added ; because I feel the envy to do so. Also I spoiled weaknesses for each hale. I wonder if other Saxton Hale modders around here would like to adopt the weakness system for every hale in every Saxton Hale mod ? :D
That way we could have "official weaknesses" included in other mods and that could be interesting :3
EDIT : A few hours later, SuperJustinBros convinced me that weaknesses are a bad idea, because they just make the fight more or less easy according to luck. So, totally against skills. I decided to turn off the code, but I might still reactivate it in case of if people really want them back. Until further notice, NO hale, including Scrooge, have a weakness and/or resistances.
17/11/13 : I just added some more stuff in the "Changes from the official Saxton Hale" spoiler.
16/11/13 : Okay, I know it's not nice not revealing a single hale. So here she arrives, straight from the Touhou galaxy : Remilia Scarlet is a hale. I added pictures of her, as well as a boss description.
My project is flowing quite nicely if I do say myself, on my view of the things. 3 hales on the 5 planned are already completly finished. I only spoiled one for the moment through :3
I can foresee the release date of the first playable, and enjoyable version (v1A) around the 1st December. Maybe a little later if I slowly progress on it D:
11/11/13 : Thread created. I won't spoil any hale for the moment, through two screenshots from these hales are posted in the screenshot section.Bosses list
(click to show/hide)- Saxton Hale
- Ghost of Starman (Rebirth sauce)
- Christian Brutal Sniper (Rebirth version)
- Morshoooo (Rebirth styled)
- Slenderman (special deluxe edition)
- Captain Falcon
- Seemen
- Ninja Spy
- Ra Thor is removed. Or... replaced should I say
- Quote and Curly (Cave Story) special canon edition
- Cave Johnson
- Scrooge Mc'Duck
- Gilgamesh
SH++ v1 :
- Remilia Scarlet
- The Unknown Robot Master
- Dio Flash
- Mudkip
- Wily Tower Robot Masters (Buster Rod G, Mega Water S, Hyper Storm H)
SHR++ v2 :
- Tomahawk Talbain
- Super Macho Man
- Guts Man G
- The Ra Thor brothersThe classes
(click to show/hide)Latest name I remember calling them was Silversin Classes Redesigned.
These copywep based classes are inspired by TF2 and Silversin's classes from Saxton & Friend. The aim was to go toward more gameplay horizons, but at the same time, without having something too different. These classes most of the time trade stats (less health for more power, less speed for more armor...), and thus I think they are enjoyable enough, and at the same time, aren't the same thing as playing with YD classes.
These classes feature the Megaman main cast as characters. You can see the following picture in-game by using "help_menu" in the console, but I'll give some more informations about them below I advise to read too
==> Nothing special about Megaman, he's the exactly same standard LMS class by default. Only him can use skins!
==> Protoman, Bass and Duo don't start with the Mega Buster, but with their respective buster upgrade... a nerfed version, actually. Unlike Megaman who start with 5 weapons ; Proto, Bass and Duo all three start with 3 weapons
==> Proto Man's Proto Buster has no shield and the damage is slighty nerfed (by 20% to be accurate). So now it acts as a kind of chargeable, sniping Mega buster.
==> Bass' Bass Buster is like the copywep version, however it has a slower fire rate
==> Duo's duo fist takes longer to charge.
==> Auto's weapon acts like a stronger Mega Buster. He fires screws instead of pellets, and the big screws do more damage. Auto can help his allies by providing a large variety of products divided into 2 categories : items and parts. Switch the weapon to swap between items and parts.
> Once created, the items will stay on the map until someone picks them. They can be used at anytime
> The parts on the opposite, disappear after some time if they're not collected. When picked up, their effect instantly activate, and lasts temporarily
Auto receives bolts once in a while automatically (max : 999). With them, he can make up stuff.
Open the products window with altfire.
When opened, scroll between the list of objects by tapping altfire, until the desired object is selected.
Confirm your selection by holding altfire, and tadaaaa, if you have enough bolts, your object will be created and sent to the allies! Careful as you're slowed down while creating something.
It takes some time to handle it but once acquired it feels pretty varied and fun to use.
The list of the objects Auto can create :
--- Quote ---ITEMS (Weapon 1)
> Random Weapon (225 bolts) : like Eddie, provides a random weapon. Eddie however has a higher probability of giving rare weapons
> W-Tank (185 bolts) : no description needed
> Beat (300 bolts) : A Beat Call-type insurer object
> Exit Unit (450 bolts) : Teleports the user to a random spawn point of the map
PARTS (Weapon 2)
> E. Analyzer (120 bolts) : draws the complete map on the automap, and display all the actors as well for some time. It's more useful than how it seems
> S. Armor (300 bolts) : reduces the damage taken of the user for some time
> H.S.D. (250 bolts) : increases the mobility of the user for some time
> S. Buster (400 bolts) : increases the strength of the user for some time
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==> Roll's weapon on the other hand, acts like a faster Mega Buster. Faster missiles with a slightly faster fire rate.
By tapping the altfire, you can check a target's health. Tap it often, quickly on everyone to keep your eye on their health, and you'll be best medic of the server
If the target has full health, a mirror buster sound will play and green sparkles will spread. If the target is indeed weakened, a laser buster sound will play and red sparkles will spread.
Hold the altfire to send the healing beam. When your patient casts green sparkles, it means he/she's completly retablished :DBoss description (some might be outdated)
(click to show/hide)http://pastebin.com/H2F9L8KnScreenshots (some pictures may be outdated)
(click to show/hide)Saxton Hale gets improved graphics for his rage ! Also, forget the eyecrushing inverted color thing, it's gone :3
"Are you really the strongest man on your team ?!"
Cave Johnson is proud of showing off his new lemonz thingz
Morshu was sad because he would never catch anyone with his best bomby thing. Now, fear this, that's a real bomb !
And yeah, it IS bigger.
What do we want ? Kill all ze robotz !
Healing roll with improved graphics :D
And old guy comes back... but he's got more tricks in his hand.
RUN, ROLL !!! TS'GONNA GETCHA AAAAA
Redesigned with his own rage, 2spooly4udude
And I ain't joking when talkin' about heartbeating scenes.
In open areas like this one, Remilia's rage Vampire Illusion can reveal it self quite... dangerous. Dodge that, robot mahsters ! Feel the power of the danmaku ! :D
Llama ? O_o Blame the bullets!
u can flee but no escape
sonic's the name speed's my game
she's enraged
there's no escape from the rape citadel
here he comes, and it's going to be a battlefield
I'm gonna summon mets with your junk, heatman !
sniper armor is happy because he killed a girl
good job sniper
I make them look so weak next to me lol
where's your god now
attack, my stand! attack pls yessir
huh-uh
did you also see the rage message like if it fades in-game ? optical illusion FTW
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
:3
right on yo face :o
kawaiii as fuck
incoming water gun in 2 1
dat torchic
thx treecko ur nice
spring man is bouncing inside
well of course bubble man, water is weak to grass
ninja much wow
easy prey
must hunt down
the rage mode :D that's a lot of bars yeah, but I heard you were good so
Casting a shield
go away grenade man :v
shield points are displayed next to the health
you can add shields over shields for lotsa shields !
eating little girls it makes me feel so good
you know what I mean by "big" boulder now
Credits
(click to show/hide)Special thanks to SilverSin, Balrog, and everyone else who worked on the original Saxton Hale mode.
Special special thanks to CutmanMike and the whole devteam behind MM8BDM for creating the best Mega Man fan-game ever.
Special thanks too to my betatesters, as well as to requesters and people who brought me ideas of new characters to introduce in SH :
TailsMK4 (Partner, Betatesting, bug fixing)
Linnie (Betatesting, advising)
Celebi (betatester, resource providing)
ChaosUnlimited (ressource providing, betatesting)
FTX6004 (spriter, betatesting)
James (betatester)
Jax (coding expert)
Chaos Fantazy (betatesting)
Dawn of Mudkipz (Betatesting)
Dr. Crasger (Betatesting)
OrangeMario (Betatesting)
Fyone (Betatesting)
Dark X / Dark X of Mudkipz (Betatesting)
Kage (Betatesting and nice supporter)
SmashTheEchidna / "Gizmo the Cat" (Ressource providing)
MrL for the idea and the code that allows to choose a hale, (from Rebalanced Classes Saxton Hale)
Superthanks to Celebi for the Pokémon sounds
Diego for the Saxton Hale skin
Thanks to Lego for drawing Auto's screws rotation sprites!!
FTX for the Ninja Spy and Sniper skins, and Gilgamesh Rocket punch sprites (and the skin itself)
Frags for Ra Thers' HUDS and Cave Johnson's, too. Credits for the Slender Man newer skin
Credits to Cave Story's creators for the original sounds/sprites from CStory
Gummy for the ripping of the Rainbow Beam sound
Agent ME on the ZDOOM forums for the double jump code
Gizmo the Cat for the recoloration of Beam Surcharge
The justified Classes team for the Beam Surcharge Thunder Bolt spliting graphics
Various sounds from the YD Classes Modifications by MusashiAA
Thanks a lot to Fyone, Woohoo and the justified devteam to let me use various ressources for my Auto!!
Neslug for the recoloration of the Pokémon moves used for Ra Thor Rebirth's psychic orb
Superthanks to Lego for letting me use the Megaman HUD rune graphics :D
Remilia Scarlet : Skin and HUDs taken from Touhou Classes Mod v1d
Rage graphics/sounds taken from Drake's Project P (Touhou)
Dio Flash : Skin created by Rukifellth
HUD by Classes mod
Knives and punches sprites by Capcom, Araki, and Kit Nathaniels (Sprite Database)
The unknown Robot Master : Skin created by Copy Robot
Music by RushJet1, sounds by Classes
Dawn of Moodkipz Mudkip : Skins created by Blueiscooltoo and Sacat
HUD by Tsukiyomaru Zero
Pokémon sounds by Ankoku Flare
Some graphics by Spriters Ressource
Genesis Unit Themes from this video
Buster Rod G: Skin by Audiophile
HUD by Classes
Sounds by RPG Maker VX Ace ressources, sounds/graphics by Drake's Project P (Touhou), Classes
Rod sprites by NES Boy (spriters ressource)
Mega Water S: Skin by Audiophile too
Sounds by Ankoku Flare/Classes/Drake's Project P (Touhou)
Water and Harpoons sprites by Yawackhary (spriters ressource)
Hyper Storm H: Skin by Megaman/Mr. Joe
Power Mound blasting sound by MMU Classes, boulder sprites by Sprites INC, rock sprites ripped by Neslug (spriters ressource)
Breathing sprites by NES Boy (spriters ressource)
Tomahawk Talbain : Skin by Hinatediz, HUD by Justified classes, and Woohoo for the claws
If I missed someone, please tell me so I add your name !
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Stardust:
<<This post is reserved in case I need more space to write stuff>>
Linnie:
Well, while this sounds interesting...
...I'm not too keen on there being another version of Saxton Hale.
It's not that I don't want there to be Saxton Hale, but it feels like there are too many variants. Have you considered pitching your ++ Hales to another version and merging the two versions? I like your idea of making new Hales, but having three versions of Saxton that are the same except for differences in Hale choices doesn't seem very efficient and makes the Hale mode weaker as a whole, while putting all the new Hales in with the old Hales in a single game mode would work better, so long as they were balanced so one Hale by one person isn't OP compared to another person's Hale. Maybe Hale ++ and Hyper Saxton could merge forces, or both of those merge with Rebirth or Rebalanced when Tails returns to working on that.
You should definitely keep working on this, but I'd recommend looking to see if you can join together with another Hale mode so that you get one stronger mode rather than two weaker modes.
Stardust:
Now that you mention it, the existing versions of SH are uh...
Normal SH, Unholy, Rebalanced, Hyper SH, Rebirth, MMUnlimited SH if we can count it xD...
well either way that's a lot of versions, I agree. Right now the closest relationship my mod has with other's is with Hyper Saxton, as Otaku and me are making hales together, but not in the same mod :I we'll probably mix or something. A little later, if us modders could come up with a set of different works, and that they're REALLY interesting, THEN maybe we could contact SilverSin (or Balrog) about including them into the official one. Because you know it's been years there's no update on this Balrog's SH.
So yeah I'll try doing this, because also I can't handle to see that much server with barely different names dedicated to SH. Althrough, Unholy seems to use brand new mechanics (health scaling, speed and power) so I don't think it'll ever be mixed with the normal Saxton Hale.
Thanks for the advise :D
Linnie:
Well, Balrog has rather turned against Hale altogether, and I don't think I've ever met Silversin, so right now there isn't really a current "normal" Hale. Someone once theorized that the lack of a "main" Hale is the reason for so many offshoots.
But yeah, glad to see you'd be willing to work with Otaku. I think it would be fine if you worked on your Hales and when you got your five, then go to Otaku to negotiate the merge. You could call it Hyper++ Saxton Hale or some such.
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