MEGA MAN ROCK FORCE EXPANSION (V3) - V6B COMPATIBLE

[Mendez]

In regards to Power Man's bug, the proposed solution is also used in Photon Man's map to prevent people from sneaking under the rising platforms. As for Plague Man's lack of details, that's because we made the assumption that people wouldn't use chasecam to look at parts of the map that can't be seen normally. We'll probably add basic details so it looks okay, hopefully chasecam users can pardon the laziness lul

[Trillster]

Not gonna lie, I'm pretty amazed we got this much done in this short of a time. I'd say it felt like it all happened in the span of months, but it literally did happen in two months aha. I'd say this was one of my best experiences in 8BDM modding. It never really felt stressful or anything, it was just fun from finish to end. From MedalPls emotes in the Discord channel to joking around about Mike being a pit magnet, there were tons of jokes had during development. I'll be honest, I wasn't even expecting to get this medal either. I went into this expansion looking to help revive the scene and I got so much more. Everyone who contributed did a great job, Mendez and Jake pumping out maps, Dimpsy and FTX pumping out skins, and various other contributions made by people like Blaze and Raze.

Thanks to Sonicfam for practically co-leading the project. First person to sign up, allowed me to bounce a lot of ideas off, and responsible for your awesome boss fight. Keeping things going behind the scenes while other contributors made the maps and skins deserves special thanks.

Heh, you surely know how to make messing around with cameras sound exciting. It was great having you as a leader though so thanks. I do actually want to share a bit of the behind the scenes of the campaign boss. So if you were curious about just how many objects are on this small arena, here's a screenshot that should give you a general idea.

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So to end this off finally, I guess I'll just say this. I hate octics and moving cameras now aha. I definitely look forward to working again with all of you towards v2!

[Superjustinbros]

Thanks Mendez.

Another minor aesthetic comment I have is towards some of the textures; the "blacks" in almost all the textures are actually a very, very dark grey instead of a pure black, while the solid black areas in Charade Man's stage don't use this dark grey color for constancy and cut to pure black.

Shame I didn't really find any opportunities to contribute to MMRF when it was in the works; but then again I'm more of a player and not so much a creator.

[Chaosman.EXE]

Not looking too bad; we definitely have some weird stage layouts (and I like weird), but just one request... NERF THE CIRCUIT BREAKER, please. Yeah, it depletes ammo fairly quickly but it still more or less ends any confrontation on the spot if your aim is even remotely good.

[Max]

All of the appropriate maps and skins for the next release have been opened up on the front page

Prioritising Death/Fish/Polar/Justice for now
but may also contain Thrill/Thermo/War/Port depending on people's contributions

moving forward onto non-new content, let's talk weapon balance
Circuit Breaker >>> Removed hitstun
Pulse Stopper >>> Increased hug radius by 16 units

aside from those two I think things are pretty balanced without changes but I'd appreciate comments here or on discord - as always the link is https://discord.gg/bCWw2GK

[kirbymariomega]

going to try and whip something up for polar man if that's alright, and might try some of the others depending on who's left once i finish him

[Xhatahx]

Bravo, bravo, bravo. Just some small problems.
-Pulse Stooper uses no ammo while the ring is around you. Maybe drain the ammo while it's up? If you disagree with my suggestion, please give an explanation.
-The two Circuit Breaker shots have a different vertical offset.
-As Superjustinbros said, the blacks are really dark grays. However, two different blacks are used in MMRFCRY whether or not the bottomless pit is under a Crypt Block.

[Max]

If you disagree with my suggestion, please give an explanation.

It's a tiny radius, like Pharaoh Shot, which doesn't use ammo. I'd consider a Mirror Buster-style 'hold' bar but not more ammo for holding it down. Also it's game accurate atm.

As for Circuit Breaker that's intentional and won't be fixed but the offsets have been more 'regulated' with the crosshair for the next version already

Crypt appears to be a software-only issue, I'll try to fix it tho but it's fine on OpenGl and there's no difference in colour for me

[Pegg]

Now, after playing through the main campaign, I really only have one issue.

On Shockman's map, the fraglimit is set to 15 (I believe), which is a rather absurd number. The map is quite hard to navigate and can be rather confusing at times. I dunno, it may just be me. All I ask is that the limit be decreased in the next update, if that's possible. I don't know much about how modding works.

Other than that, this expansion was great, albeit a bit short. Good job, guys.

[Xhatahx]

I think I've found the core of the Crypt issue.

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As you can see, the darkness effect wasn't applied to the 3d floor sectors.

EDIT: In Shock Man's stage, you occasionally spawn inside the floor.

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[Max]

Shock Man has a high fragcount because it's a large map with a large amount of bots. The fraglimit won't change, but it will feel much much much shorter when bots stop falling in the pits and become immune to the water shocks in the next version meaning you won't lose any frags when your teammates die.

[Max]

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JUST BECAUSE ROCK FORCE HASN'T EVEN BEEN OUT A WEEK DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE AN UPDATE POST!! OH YEAH EARNING THOSE MEDALS BABY 👌👀👌👀

Here's the high-walled high-fun War Man from Mendez, who's now rivalling me for 'most maps contributed' award!

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The map's looking rather colour-coded... and symmetrical...
Well, based on how the level worked in Rock Force and the textures available to us it only seemed natural for War Man to be playable in CTF too!

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As for skins, this latecoming original rebeller finally made it to the party due to the efforts of FTX6004! (and Raze (and I did a bit too))

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And making progress on the next set of fusions, this ill-looking gent looks like he's have gastronomical distress... (by FTX, Dimpsy and Blaze!)

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...or maybe it was just superspicy curry.

We don't know when the next version will be out (a few of us are tired and taking breaks) but JUSTICE NEVER SLEEPS and we'll be sure to update you again soon.
'Til then!

[Xhatahx]

...it only seemed natural for War Man to be playable in CTF too!

Mendez(or anyone else who came up with the idea), I love you.

[Mendez]

I'm not sure if the map will play that well in DM since it is about 7900x3300 pixels big, which means this is only really good for CTF or large-scale DM. I'll talk with Max about adding teleporters and more item-2s for non-team modes, but I feel it's important to warn people now that this map is large.

[Max]

Miscellaneous small updates and texture thingies

When loading the expansion and replacing the teams, all CTF maps will have their Wily logos replaced with this new one Sonicfam made for the Justice League

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Shock Man's map will now randomly choose between the original nighttime sky used in the Shock stage and the daytime dam sky used in the intro stage

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