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Maps / Re: Marioluigi001's Strength In Numbers Custom Maps V1C Rele

« on: July 15, 2014, 09:43:54 PM »

I see V1C is out, let's take a look.

Bombman:

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I see you got the majority of texture flubs, though I still see some line horizon errors here and there. I recommend using the "Fly" cheat in-game to zoom around your map and see if anything is being obscured.



The fences are off; rather than being thick, they should be created the way Tails brought up.

And, actually, though I like where it's at now, when I recommended the fences I was initially thinking this part of the room:



That way you could see it from when you're leading up to it.

The new added area is nice enough, I suppose, though it isn't exceptionally grand.



The Big Eye is a nice touch in that last room. I still think you should do the thing with the elevator I previously recommended with V1B. Try looking at, I think AMP, there are maps with lifts in there.

Fireman:

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I see you made a new map. Just keep in mind, quality is prioritized to quantity, so I'd hold off on Hard until your current maps are up to snuff. Better to have 2-3 good maps than 10 lower-quality ones, right?

Now, the overall thing I see issue with in this map is that it's really, really flat. You should add some elevation differences in more parts of the map, otherwise it just feels like a hallway.

I usually do this in order from the start of the map to the finish, but, there's one issue that's so big that I need to point it out first.



No. Bad. This is very bad design.

For those reading this without having tried the map, if you take the path to the right, you get treated with unavoidable death. No warning, just a death trap. It's of utmost importance that you get rid of that death trap.


Now that that's out of the way, let's look at the rest of the map. It starts off looking good, and the first little issue I notice is these two hotheads. They're too close together and unless you take the time to snipe the first one without moving, they're annoying to fight unless you run straight past.




After that, I like the circular design of the fire shooters. One thing I should recommend is that every MMSP in the standard set has a secret or two, and I think having a short path to a hidden ETank would be a nice secret to use with that area, without having to alter any structures other than adding that small place.


Taking the non-death part of the two paths next, you come across a hothead. I'm not entirely sure if it's good or not for it to be in the position it is, so unless someone else has an opinion on it, I won't comment on it.

Now after that is the spot that made me think the hallway comment. That windy, narrow path is wayyyy too long for just a normal hallway. If you're ballsy and really want to go all out on this map, maybe you could do something like make it an open vertical area with ladders, something reminiscent of this:



Though, that would likely require a lot of use of possibly-overlapping 3D floors so as a mapping novice that might be too complicated. Still, some kind of variety is needed to make the hallway less bland.



Now, after that is this section:



There's not much here, but, I see a really easy way to spice it up: you should remove those turrets (since they can't hit you anyway) and instead have the upward fire shooters from Fireman appear every 3-4 platforms. You don't even need to wait for Tails to finish his enemy pack for that, they're in the core. Just make sure to replace the textures of the pillars you add the fire to so players can tell they'll shoot fire.

The next area is a bit harder to work out, but I think it could be done as well:



This is really a differently shaped but still mostly featureless hallway. To be honest, I could see an enemy barrage work, either with the fireballs that shoot out of the ground (you know, the ones the Hotheads shoot, but in Fireman's stage they flew out of the lava instead) or Killer Bullets. Or hell, maybe both if you keep their concentrations low enough.

I'd replace the ETank with a WTank, since it's so easy to grab.


The last thing is that it's really weird how many gates there are at the end. Feels disingenuous, when you think you're at the end and the level isn't yet over.

So, overall, Fireman in its first form is in better condition than the first forms of the other two maps, though it still needs progress.

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W.I.P Forum / Re: The Idea(s) Topic

« on: July 15, 2014, 04:30:09 PM »

Hmm.

You create a clone of yourself that stands still and appears to be AFK, and it acts like a Dead Ringer where if you get hit you teleport to where your clone is with the clone disappearing and the spot you were at has a death effect. The AFK clone has a health bar made out of your ammo bar where if you run out it dies, though the Dead Ringer activating drains the ammo instantly, hence the death.

I could see it having use in CTF, to be honest, if you had good placement. Maybe for versatility you have to have altfire held down for it to trigger like the real Dead Ringer.

EDIT: Wait no no no I just realized how easily that could be abused in CTF, don't put the weapon in any CTF maps. I had one-flag CTF on the mind when I said that, I'm silly.

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W.I.P Forum / Re: The Idea(s) Topic

« on: July 14, 2014, 03:56:33 AM »

I like DIRP. It'd be cool if it were hosted more.

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Maps / Re: Marioluigi001's Strength In Numbers Custom Maps V1B Rele

« on: July 13, 2014, 10:53:43 PM »

Alright, so I took a look at the new Bombman, and first thing to say: definite improvement. It's great to see someone responsive to criticism, and one can go far by learning from such.

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Now a general thing I noticed, the linedefs still seem to have issue. I checked it in Doombuilder and I found that you have a lot more linedefs and sectors than necessary. I learned the hard way when I made my first map that having too many of those will overcomplicate things. Now, the specific issue with those linedefs, unnecessary amount aside, you put "Line Horizon" on them, which is why parts of your maps are obscured by them.

Doombuilder also showed me there's an easy fix for your skybox issue. You should move your Skybox Viewpoint to the middle of the Skybox, that way you'll have the skybox on all sides.

I noticed you removed some enemies in the first half. That's good, it's less crowded now, but enemy placement feels a bit odd now. The first two Sniper Joes particularly; the first one feels like it was just loitered there and the second could likely be replaced with one sniper Joe on each side; nine is too much, but having two would be fine.

Now, one praise I should give is that I like the opening you made in this room:



It looks much more flowing than the closed off room from V1A. One thing I would recommend to make things even nicer looking would be to add the fences from Bombman's core map to the outer edge there; you're not at risk of falling or anything, it would just look good.

For the room past that area, I'd recommend adding a window or two, similar to Cutman's stage, having the bladers that spawn in the room be spawned from there.



Now, onto the new areas. I can already tell that you've improved since this new area is much better designed overall.

Little thing:



It'd be better to have these two pits line up. Some fences here might also be aesthetically pleasing.


Right now the long catwalk seems a little bland, but, I could see it working, actually. I can see it be a place for those Killer Bullets to come in and attack. So, even if it's bland for now, it looks like it'd be a good spot for that so I'd keep it in.

The hallway after that also looks good.



The new final room I actually really like.



It's a good idea; perhaps not completely thematic, but I do like it. However, I noticed the lift goes all the way up to the ceiling rather than stopping at the door; it would be a good idea to have the lift stop after a certain height. The same goes for when it goes back down; it should go back down to the initial height it was as opposed to all the way to the floor. Also, after the boss door is opened, you should have a teleporter appear so that anyone in multiplayer doesn't have to wait int he event one player gets ahead and springs the lift; being able to use the teleporter rather than having to wait for it to come back down and up again.

Again, this is definite improvement, keep up the good work, you're moving forward now.

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Maps / Re: Marioluigi001's Strength In Numbers Custom Maps

« on: July 12, 2014, 05:43:35 AM »

Yeah, I bet if you can get the mapping aspect up to a good enough standard, you could find someone who might help code you some enemies; I know TailsMK4 is going to make Woodman's boss and enemies for the two people collaborating on Woodman SP, for example. You should work on the map aspect before asking for a vote a confidence, but it's something to think about once that's done.

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Maps / Re: Marioluigi001's Strength In Numbers Custom Maps

« on: July 12, 2014, 04:42:50 AM »

I figured since you went to the effort to make these, I should do my best to review it. Right now I've only done Bombman, because I found quite a bit to review. I might do Gigaroll later.

Spoilering since this is pretty large and has a lot of large screenshots.

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Okay, let's look at the beginning of the level.



If you were playing in multiplayer, having such a small ladder and a small entrance to the map would likely cause some traffic. It'd probably be good to just raise up the platform, widen the hallway, and move it a bit further away from the first room with enemies.

And, then we get to the first room with enemies.



This winding path is a huge no-no. It's quite annoying to have a narrow path with pits when there really isn't any reason to have it instead of a solid platform.

There's also a large, recurring problem with your textures. I'm not really sure why it be like it is, but you have sky textures that obscure the map. You can barely see it in the above screenshot, but it's much more pronounced in the one below:



I'll get back to that later since I'm trying to review this map in order. (Also, on a smaller note, that skybox needs work, the ball statue things only appear in one corner of the skybox.)



There are also more pits than necessary there. One general thing this map needs is to have much larger spaces; try to model it after the existing MMSP maps, it occasionally feels like a Lobstacle Course maps for the first half of the map.


Enemy placement can be a bit crowded, with you needing to give the player some room to breathe without being shot down by more than ten enemies at once.

Like this specific instance of being shot by more than ten enemies at once (nine Sniper Joes and two wall sentries):




Now back to the obscuring textures. This part is probably the worst instance of obscuring the map.



It looks like the map completely cuts off. I had initially thought the map was unfinished and stopped there, until I took a leap of faith and saw:



Yeah, that's one of the bigger issues with the map, that spot where you can't see the area ahead of you until you make a leap of faith.


Now, after that, some of the glaring issues end for a while. The map does open up, and enemy placement, while it could still be improved, is less bloated.

The main problem now is that the map is a bit bland and same-looking.

A large part of it is monotexture here, and the pure black floor seems like an odd choice considering it has spikes on it.

This is likely the apex of blandness, where the room is just one wall, a floor, and a ceiling.


After that you get a really tight corridor; I didn't screen it, but like said earlier, you should open up that area so it flows better.



You get to this room right before the boss, and it has several issues with it. Firstly, there's a large quantity of enemies at the bottom, making it essentially suicide to go down there if you don't carefully snipe them individually, which is annoying for the fleas that move around constantly.

Secondly, this door is so slow it's almost comical. You can't just run past the enemies, through the door, and into the boss room.


I counted, and it takes literally five seconds for the door to reach the bottom so you can pass. And then there's another one, so it takes ten seconds overall, which is precisely why going down to the bottom is suicide. You should look at the coding Cutmanmike's MMSP maps have with the boss door and try to emulate that.


Now, as to the boss itself, it's not explicitly bad, not broken or anything, but its coding is really rudimentary. All it does is jump and shoot, then repeat. You can defeat it in a few seconds without taking a hit. I understand coding likely isn't your thing, but you should try to find someone who can code you a proper Bombman SP boss, as well as coding some original enemies for the map.

It's really nice that someone is taking initiative with making MMSP maps, but this map needs a lot of reworking to be playable. It took me about two hours longer to write this than I had planned, so I'm not going to detail Giga Roll's stage today; I might do it tomorrow when I have a day of free time. I've never made an SP map myself, so I stuck with just general mapping advice and just tackled the larger issues mostly.

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Projects & Creative / Re: [EXPANSION] Mega Man Powered Up [Release v1f]

« on: July 12, 2014, 01:41:13 AM »

Yeah, I was wondering, it's been a couple months since V4 came out; are there any plans to release a compatibility patch for this?

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Projects & Creative / Re: Class based modification (v7bh)

« on: July 11, 2014, 02:08:56 PM »

It's Elecman. His altfire shoots lightning from the sky a la Toadman's rain. Wootoad I assume is Woodman's alt being more exploitable in Justified until it's like Toadman's rain.

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W.I.P Forum / Re: The Idea(s) Topic

« on: July 09, 2014, 07:39:55 PM »

You know Gummywormz has made MMU classes and weapons, yes?

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file= ... es-v1a.pk3

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ domain)

« on: July 08, 2014, 10:16:55 PM »

The thing I feel about his summons are that the equilibrium is unstable. The less players remain, the longer it takes to kill a summon, especially the Mettaurs with their invincibility frames along with their fuckton of HP. The longer it takes for the summons to be killed, the more summons the Hale can put on the map, pushing things more and more in the Hale's favor until he pretty much can't be beat by a single player unless he's nearly dead as-is.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ domain)

« on: July 08, 2014, 09:59:34 PM »

I'm not. There's something about Dio's style that just makes him fun, like other people have described earlier in the thread.

Being sniped by 50 near-invincible Mettaurs is not fun.


I don't expect URM to change the OPness of the summons (because it is hard to balance, after all; too low and people will just divebomb the enemy to kill it before it hits), though putting him in the secret Hale pool would make his OPness more justified.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ domain)

« on: July 08, 2014, 09:24:51 PM »

You know, since we're talking about OP Hales becoming secret, why not do that with Unknown Robot Master? His minions combined with that powerful, 500-cost rage make him unfair to fight, and unlike Dio he doesn't have that awesome factor that makes Dio fun anyway.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Class based modification (v7bh)

« on: July 08, 2014, 04:57:17 AM »

Given he healed by equipment on his stage and not an innate ability by him, it would be odd for him to have it.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ domain)

« on: July 07, 2014, 08:20:17 PM »

Since Scrooge got brought up by Smash, I have to ask something that's been bugging me, why doesn't Robo-Duck have any rotations yet? I'm perturbed by how long that's taking; the lack of rotations makes the rage awful aesthetically, and it feels like it shouldn't've replaced Moby in its unfinished state.

Also that Amazon music is unfitting, I told SJB over and over how unfitting it was and he still pushed it and now it's in and it is just so unfitting.

I also agree on tricking Gilgamesh out a bit. I actually didn't have much of an opinion for it in the old days since there was less variation in general, but it feels like standards have been raised since then and Gilgamesh could use that random weaponry to stand out.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale Rebirth ++ domain)

« on: July 06, 2014, 04:24:47 PM »

You know, if people dislike a gimmick enough that they'll mess with their computer settings to not have to endure that gimmick, I think that's a sign that maybe the gimmick isn't very enjoyable, not a sign to make the gimmick even more annoying. Just my two cents on that line of thought.