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Gaming => The Ghoul's Forest => Topic started by: Possesed on August 14, 2009, 11:53:49 AM
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I havent seen any topics about this so i dicided to put one up
Here you can discuss about GVH classes (Balencing, ideas or any good addons Ect.)
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Well, OK then.
As you all have known, choke and ghostbuster need to get buffed up. I think that choke and GB should be merged with other classes in GvH, but put new classes in Endless War. Eyesore should be OK as a ghoul, but i'm not sure about a human class. Duke maybe?
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Other than convenience, what's the point of putting Choke and Ghostbuster in GVH? They will get buffed up (ghostbuster is having a complete makeover) but I'll release it as GVH:EWv2 along with a few map fixes.
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Eyesore is a good idea but i think misty would be great as well because he would play very differanly than other ghouls and allow more tactics to be used. (And his fog could support creeper's stealth :twisted: )
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Other than convenience, what's the point of putting Choke and Ghostbuster in GVH?
To get new classes in Endless War. It would be cool to get new classes but 5 classes per team and stuff like that would unbalance the whole gameplay but only in GvH, EW would be enough to handle it.
So i think (just an idea) the line-up should be like this:
Humans
Marine, Hunter, Cyborg, GhostBuster (needs buffing up) and 1 human class in EW. (I don't know which one would be fine)
Ghouls
Sjas, Jitterskull, Creeper, Choke (needs buffing up, but not as much as Ghostbuster!) and the EW class would be EyeSore or Misty (Good idea, Possesed)
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But endless war HAS two classes. If I wanted to add more classes I'd make a whole new expansion.
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For humans y dont u give them a mage? Its classic and you dont have to look around for spirites. He could have his staff which fires little weak energy balls which split on impact (the main ball could do 30 and the burst balls could be 10) and for altfire he could raise his staff and whack with great force doing about 60 damage (so thats his last resort attack) :)
He could have a spell book as his next weapon. its normal fire would summon a fire trail accros he ground and its altfire could be a charge up attack for a lightning orb. the more you charge it the more damage to main ball does and if he charges long enough it can also have splash damage.
And for his final attck (he will proberly have low ammo (3-5) for this) he could have a meteor staff. Its normal fire summons meteor from his staff and it does 80 damage on impact and has a small splash damage. and for his altfie (this would take away all his ammo (notsure if it should be for all weapons of just his meteor attack ammo) he makes it rain weak meteors in the sector he attacks in. Mybe each meteor does 8 damage or so. :)
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Too cliché for me. Not to mention someone already made a mage.
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If ur looking for something not yet done y dont u do a pyro class? He could have a flamethrower or spraycan. And he could also have moltov coctails and gasoline which he could set alight with his other attacks. :mrgreen:
To counter spam mybe make it so the flamethrower could over heat
Also to counter lag use spirites like the ones in aow. (it would stop lag being crazy if you avoid flashy flame spirites like aow 2) ;)
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Other than convenience, what's the point of putting Choke and Ghostbuster in GVH? They will get buffed up (ghostbuster is having a complete makeover) but I'll release it as GVH:EWv2 along with a few map fixes.
Is the Ghostbuster going to keep his traps?
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Should I post map complainspropositions here or make a new thread for it.
Greets.
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I'll put a topic up
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i think what eyesore will be a choke clone(this isnt super smash bros D: ), but is a good idea, but i like more the idea of misty, she will get a different work in gvh. and about the duke nukem, we need to serious sam, no to duke nukem :D
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About the new classes... you do all know that White is working on them and they will be released in the foreseeable future, but not with Endless War. About the current classes... can't say anything that hasn't already been said...
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If ur looking for something not yet done y dont u do a pyro class? He could have a flamethrower or spraycan. And he could also have moltov coctails and gasoline which he could set alight with his other attacks. :mrgreen:
Actually, this has already been done as it is. Pretty much word for word of what you said, it is in Mercenaries v1.9 (Currently in a beta state, so I understand you not knowing).
If there'd be a new Ghoul, then it would probably be Eyesore, seeing as he is the only official Ghoul to not be in GvH yet. For a Human class, I'd probably say Duke Nukem, just so you could inform the Ghouls that you have BALLS OF STEEL. =P But, in all honesty, I have no idea who the new Human would/will be.
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It's Duke, I know, I have inside info. Eyesore included also... You know what, take a look at this: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19 (http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19)
Now we can only talk about the current classes
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Robojoe about what u said (i dont how to put what u said in a box in my post :mad: ) i was meaning something not done in gvh.
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Yeah, the idea about Serious Sam instead of Duke, no really, why not?
Take sounds from the SSam game and take a few weapons:
Sniper Rifle
Double Barreled Shotgun
Chainsaw (XD)
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Err chainsaw? :lol:
About that serious sam idea (i havent played it before) It Sounds too much like marine. So really that would just be a marine clone with a buffed up shotgun and a chainsaw with a sniper rifle.
I dont like the idea cus its just prtty much just a slight change from marine :-| and it would make lots of people go ghouls when this gets realesed cus they wont be very interested in the serious sam idea. :(
Edit: Try and think of an idea Thats not similar to other humans :razz:
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How about a necromancer, eh, eh?
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How about a necromancer, eh, eh?
Necromancers summon lost souls and curse/poison his enemies.
No souls to summon unless I fake it with a really big attack sequence, and curse/poison should be fairly possible.
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Yea, I guess a necromancer would be cool human class, and cursing/poisoning enemies is a more interesting way to fight than the usual "shoot a fire arrow, pause, shoot fire arrow, repeat steps 1-3..."
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Yea, I guess a necromancer would be cool human class, and cursing/poisoning enemies is a more interesting way to fight than the usual "shoot a fire arrow, pause, shoot fire arrow, repeat steps 1-3..."
Well, a Necromancer really seems like someone who would fit in better with the Ghouls... But maybe this is because I'm thinking of the Necromancer from Castle Crashers right now. =P
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I thought it would be better as a ghoul at first too, but not all necromancers are bad guys ;)
Check Diablo 2
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I thought it would be better as a ghoul at first too, but not all necromancers are bad guys ;)
Check Diablo 2
What kind of necro- do you think I was referencing...? XD
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Well then, since we're on the same page, maybe making a necromancer class won't be so hard. ;)
EDIT: OFFTOPIC: I love the 'winking' smilie, I use it all the time, hey White, you should get one of those for your forum, can't tell you how many times I've wanted to use it. ;) ;) ;)
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Err chainsaw? :lol:
About that serious sam idea (i havent played it before) It Sounds too much like marine. So really that would just be a marine clone with a buffed up shotgun and a chainsaw with a sniper rifle.
I dont like the idea cus its just prtty much just a slight change from marine :-| and it would make lots of people go ghouls when this gets realesed cus they wont be very interested in the serious sam idea. :(
Edit: Try and think of an idea Thats not similar to other humans :razz:
well, the ghoul buster(plz name it ghoul buster!!!!) seems to be a cyborg clone, eyesore will be a choke clone, but serious sam can be the difference, if give him the waepons what need reload, it will not be so "marine based", but left this to cutman :D
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Err chainsaw? :lol:
About that serious sam idea (i havent played it before) It Sounds too much like marine. So really that would just be a marine clone with a buffed up shotgun and a chainsaw with a sniper rifle.
I dont like the idea cus its just prtty much just a slight change from marine :-| and it would make lots of people go ghouls when this gets realesed cus they wont be very interested in the serious sam idea. :(
Edit: Try and think of an idea Thats not similar to other humans :razz:
well, the ghoul buster(plz name it ghoul buster!!!!) seems to be a cyborg clone, eyesore will be a choke clone, but serious sam can be the difference, if give him the waepons what need reload, it will not be so "marine based", but left this to cutman :D
Cutman isn't the one working on the Classes.
I've been continually dismayed because he is the author of GvH and im the one HELPING him.
Eyesore won't be a Choke clone. He has a new fighting style.
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Yea White, I even posted a link to the "Forest Fury" topic so that they could see that it wasn't Cutman working on the new classes, but you know how people are... (Well, on the internet anyways)
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It's more like lord_of_hell that's not getting it. :lol:
But I say that the necromancer is a great idea.
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OK, Im gonna quote myself...
Yeah, the idea about Serious Sam instead of Duke, no really, why not?
Take sounds from the SSam game and take a few weapons:
Sniper Rifle
Double Barreled Shotgun
Chainsaw (XD)
Not DBShotgun, a tommygun or somekind of a machine gun (it would reload!) would be better. Chainsaw was just a joke, a plasma pistol (from Sam 2) would be like a last resort weapon. It would have 6 bullets and it would be reloadable. But i think that the sniper rifle would be OK. Reloadable of course!
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OK, Im gonna quote myself...
Yeah, the idea about Serious Sam instead of Duke, no really, why not?
Take sounds from the SSam game and take a few weapons:
Sniper Rifle
Double Barreled Shotgun
Chainsaw (XD)
Not DBShotgun, a tommygun or somekind of a machine gun (it would reload!) would be better. Chainsaw was just a joke, a plasma pistol (from Sam 2) would be like a last resort weapon. It would have 6 bullets and it would be reloadable. But i think that the sniper rifle would be OK. Reloadable of course!
Humans + Reloading Vs Ghouls + Fast attacks = Some really unbalanced stuff bro.
I'll look into it, although these problems with adding classes are growing far more abundant.
Seriously cutman, a little help on this? :cry:
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As long as there is a necromancer I will be elated. If I had more experience with making classes I would help. I'm sure it isn't ahrd to do. Except for the major problem of me not being able to sprite.
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Seriously cutman, a little help on this? :cry:
How do you want me to help exactly? :P
Is the Ghostbuster going to keep his traps?
Sorry for the late response but yes, he will keep his traps but they may work a little different.
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What about the choke explosion idea? I posted it here... http://cutstuff.net/blog/?p=1410#comments
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No, Choke isn't going to change too much but expect a longer reach.
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To be honest, I would rather see the current classes with new abilities than new classes. Nothing AGAINST new classes, though.
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Then you should approve of ghostbuster's upgrade. I'll post a sneak peak video here later to *coughgetpeopletojointheforumcough* inspire you all ;)
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Seriously cutman, a little help on this? :cry:
How do you want me to help exactly? :P
What you did when duke nukem was experiencing errors the first time!
He appeared to crash everytime he was killed/kills an opponent with his weapons.
ESPECIALLY his explosive weapons.
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Indeed I will like anything that is going to make the Ghostbuster (and the other classes) more interesting to play or simply make him stronger. :mrgreen:
I think the GhostBuster is potentially my new favourite class.
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To be honest, I would rather see the current classes with new abilities than new classes. Nothing AGAINST new classes, though.
maybe someone can start a project of a modification to every class, but what they will be apart of the originals, that will change very well the game style.
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Well, time for the great Minus to speak :shock:
The Necromancer idea = awesome, I'm thinking of Diablo 2 so he could have the Teeth ability, say 3-4 teeth, Bone Spear, ripper flag. And maybe a non heat seeking bone spirit (edit: it would be slow, don't worry), like 1 hit kill. All of his ammo/mana would regen by either standing still or killing an enemy. Teeth would cost no mana and would do little damage.
The Pyro class is also nice, I'm thinking his flamer should be like the one on ZDoom Wars. His altfire, yeah, probably the Molotov Cocktail.
That is all.
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The Pyro class is also nice, I'm thinking his flamer should be like the one on ZDoom Wars. His altfire, yeah, probably the Molotov Cocktail
Or, you could just make him like the TF2 Pyro. =P
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I think complete fire based classes are kinda unoriginal, so I would use something completely different. Like a poison gas spewing marine :p
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And so I bring up the "Necromancer shoots poison at enemies" idea again. 'Poison shooting human'. Check.
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I think complete fire based classes are kinda unoriginal, so I would use something completely different. Like a poison gas spewing marine :p
Well, Chem Sprayer in Renegade, he has a Chem Spray, its tiberium, but it acts as poison, Check. :P
Oh and the GVHCTADDON is pretty good, Jugulum is like a ranged Clowny, except not 1 hit kill, and can teleport back to a spawn point. Dark Priest for humans. He has 2 double barrel shotgun handgun things. 4 shots can kill a Jitterskull. He also has a green fireball throw and a ring of fire.
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I'm going to go ahead and assume that those are fan made classes. I for one am looking towards the unofficial/official classes in Forest Fury.
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Or just add Leonard from Redneck Rampage. Give him a chicken launcher, and everyone will have fun with him for hours. Even the ghouls will find him playful enough NOT to eat him at first sight! :P
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we need a yurei whit scary pics special atack D:
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we need a yurei whit scary pics special atack D:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Moon_Streak/ ... owtopic=30 (http://z3.invisionfree.com/Moon_Streak/index.php?showtopic=30)
Have a shit frenzy. :-|
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we need a yurei whit scary pics special atack D:
No. Just no. I think Cutty has said numerous times that Yurei will not be an official playable class. And besides, how would she even control? She's practically fully automated.
Off-Topic (Sort of): In my opinion, it should just be Eyesore and Duke Nukem/Serious Sam, and that'd be that for official classes. 14 is sort of too much, don't you think? Perhaps they should be paired together, and released in 4 separate WADs: Eyesore/Duke Nukem, Clowny/Caleb (Or whoever it is), Misty/Necromancer, and the maps.
Off-Topic again: I forget, isn't Clowny basically just an Sjas clone with hardly no sound in the WAD he comes from?
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Serious Sam would probably be the most insane class.
Oh, and don't think about removing Hi's chainsaw! D:
Because it would be fun to go SERIOUS. XD
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I checked Cutmanmike's home page, looks like the necromancer is in! I'm just happy that my idea may actually become a playable class. :D
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can someone give me the link to download GvH. even though the link on cutstuff is broken. :cry:
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http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1791
Try searching next time. I already answered this question for someone else, and the thread was literally a few threads down.
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I updated the link on my site on the About GVH page, I had no idea it was dead!
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I updated the link on my site on the About GVH page, I had no idea it was dead!
i thought someone on your website said that.
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NO, PLEASE!!! I WANT THE ENGINEER! I ALWAYS USE HIM!!!