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Title: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 12:34:06 PM

Made mainly so me and my "green metal bro" Snake33AU won't have to continue our metal discussion in a topic completely unrelated to the genre(s) of music (that "Forum Achievement" topic). Anyone may discuss, recommend, and share anything-metal, naturally! So if you have a love for this fine type of music, tell us about it.

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Hey Vyreman, I really liked that second King Diamond song! The double bass pedals and everything, it was nicely done! Ha ha, I know what you mean about the stereotypes of metal. Some people hate labeling metal and simply say "it's all metal! Who cares?" but yeah, I understand the distinct genres out there.

Ha ha, it is funny that the "normal" heavy metal vocals in this case are higher than the power metal ones. It is normally though that power metal have those high vocals. I reckon sometimes certain bands sound a bit cheesy doing it, but most of the time it works, and I much prefer the high vocals and high power chords than those really low and dark ones from death metal. Don't get me wrong though, coz I dun know many death metal bands so i can overly criticize.

Glad you liked Helloween. I only got into them recently, and I thought I had to because they were one of the fathers of power metal. Having said that though, the song that got me into them was more "commercial" and less power metal.

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The rhythm guitar plays my three favourite power chords.  :cool: lol.
They're so catchy though, and yeah, metal is metal! m/

As for Priest, I agree on Halford's vocal range. You get his "normal" range in songs like Breaking the Law, Hell Bent for Leather, Before the Dawn, You've got another thing coming etc. and then you get higher ranges like in Free Wheel Burning and Screaming for Vengeance (the latter two have guitar solos which I think inspired video game music, like Mega Man X).

I'll be seeing Iron Maiden next year, so I'm looking forward to that.
And Vyreman: rock on my green metal bro!  :cool:

That Helloween song is also nice! :D I really need to start listening to them. Thanks. And wow, you're seeing Iron Maiden? That makes me really jealous! One of few bands I feel I truly NEED to have seen live at least once in my life.



But anyway, it seems like it's high time for me to make an effort to get you into the heavier forms of metal as well! There's so much greatness I don't want you to miss out on. And you can mention a few traditional metal bands to me if you want to. Not as a way of "paying back" (because who says I'm doing you any sort of favor? lol), but just because I want moar moar moar of it. :P

I will spare you technical/brutal death metal, though. I like that myself, but I know one who isn't even into death metal won't. XD


Ah, death metal and it's subgenres... I've gotten past a point where I have a problem with it (and growling, which I now love as long as you can hear the words), and now I mostly dwell on "the other side"; that is, I listen mainly to various "extreme" metal bands. I mean, sure, I liked Cradle of Filth back then (blech!), at least two of their songs, and I liked Children of Bodom's Downfall, but my first and foremost loves in metal were probably Metallica, Nightwish, Iron Maiden and Iced Earth. And then with the internet, I started getting into the heavier forms. In Flames was one of the first melodic death metal bands I heard, and I do believe they changed a lot. I also really enjoyed Slipknot (double blech!) back then, also contributing to the development of my love for the heavier forms of heavy metal. I still like them for that fact, even if I don't enjoy their mu(sic) (cheesy reference out of gratitude) today. Except Vermillion. That song is still excellent.


There are many bands of the death metal kind (or rather, all the various subgenres) that are VERY melodic, and many of them scrap the low growls for raspy screams instead. But of course, those, too, are an acquired taste. I personally had an easier time listening to such bands in the beginning, though. In Flames and the like appealed to me very much, while I couldn't stand listening to one of my current favorites, Scar Symmetry, because of the low growls. Before I get off the subject of Scar Symmetry, though, take a listen to this song by them (one of their calmer ones):

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Before the growling kicks in, the song is actually reminiscent of '80s metal ballads, IMO. It's a modern song to be certain, but it has a bit of an old-school feel to it, and I can't help but love the hell out of it. But then again, I love almost all Scar Symmetry songs, even the ones that sound NOTHING like traditional metal. They mix über heaviness with catchiness. I'm still impressed by the fact that the guy growling is the same guy who's singing. Very talented dude. It's not that rare that growlers/screamers can also sing, though, which so nicely proves those who think they scream because they can't sing wrong.

Here's a more traditional death metal song that still manages to be pretty catchy:

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I think the drumming in the beginning is my favorite part, though. :P But you know what? I'm just gonna go ahead and post various extreme metal songs for you to hear, maybe saying a word or two about them occasionally. I realize most of these extreme metal bands mixes genres and are therefore not "pure" metal, but that's not an issue at all for me, so I find it irrelevant. So, without further ado...

Symphonic black/death metal:

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I love this band incredibly much. Been listening to them since 2008, I think. They compose the symphonic stuff themselves, too! Or well, one of them do.

Melodic power/death/folk metal (specific, huh?):

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I don't listen to these guys too much, but they're nice.

Some sort of avent-garde black metal (with cleans), made by only ONE guy(!):

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So talented.

Progressive metal (of a non-power kind):

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They generally mix death metal with progressive rock. Also has some jazz influences and stuff here and there. I love Opeth. So much variety. Both of these songs are rock-ish for 5 minutes, then turn super-heavy. Kinda hard to call them metal, though, with so many genres mixed. But regardless, they're one of my favorite bands, and well, some of it is undeniably metal. Yessir.

Melodic death metal:

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A special aspect about this one, is that the type of cleans they mix in are VERY traditional. So every now and then, this one actually sounds like regular heavy metal!

Another song by the same band:

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It's from another album, and it has the growler doing the cleans instead of a seperate dude. Can't classify the style of it, but aside from the production, I find the song to be very beautiful. And sad.

IRON MAIDEN BREEEAAAAAK!

Let's continue then, shall we?




(Jazz-)Fusion metal (yeah, seriously):

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Very original band. Never heard anything like this.

Symphonic metal (partly death, but mostly "gurly metal"):

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I reckon this is how Within Temptation would sound today, had they chose to focus more on symphonic stuff and KEPT THE GROWLING OF THE FIRST ALBUM!

Moar progressive metal-type stuff (totally different from Opeth though, mind you -- very vague genre):

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One of my favorite songs from the band.

Moar melodic death metal:

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And some moar:

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Progressive death metal:

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Kickass drumming, right here!

Meh. This post is already far too long, and I really think I should just have thrown all bands of the same genre into one spoiler tag, but whatever. I'll stop myself here. Putting a huge load on you. @_@

But yeah, rock on as well, my green metal bro. ;) Hopefully I've opened you up to at least ONE other genre. lol


I listen almost exclusively to variants of metal, so much more can be found at my Last.FM profile: http://www.last.fm/user/Metality (http://www.last.fm/user/Metality)

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: CutmanMike on November 25, 2010, 12:41:56 PM

Death metal aka RARARRARARARRROARRRR music doesn't appeal to me, but metal with lyrics I can actually understand (or no lyrics at all) appeals to me a lot!

Fave bands at the moment include Iron Maiden, Nightwish and Alestorm

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 12:45:56 PM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

RARARRARARARRROARRRR music

Grindcore?

Well, to be honest, I don't like most of the bands in which I can't hear the lyrics either, such as Cannibal Corpse and most of Nile's stuff. But I can actually hear the lyrics in most of the stuff I posted, which IS an important aspect for me. This is one of the reasons I do not like Behemoth; can't make out a single word, even with the lyrics in front of me. So unless it's really THAT musically brilliant, no go.

Another, slightly less important requirement for me is that the music is melodic. I like non-melodic metal as well, but I find it inferior (of course; has to be memorable, no?). This is the reason why I don't listen to that much thrash metal. I find that most of it lacks melody, apart from a solo here and there in an attempt to make up for it.


Those you mention all kick ass, btw.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on November 25, 2010, 04:27:42 PM

Hey green bro!  :cool:

Nice that you made your own topic (looking at all the vids, yes, it's good that you made your own one, hahaha!). Before I listen to every single song though (there are a lot, lol) I thought I'd post a few (so you don't wait forever) and I'll comment on the three songs that I listened from the list so far.  :D

The first one, um... Scar something (dammit, I had it in my mind, lol) was quite good! And interesting. It had that 80's feel, thrown into this neo world, with some "death" undertones. It's quite interesting seeing how it all worked together, and yes, that guy has a great vocal range (good that he can sing too, not just "grunt" ha ha).

Second vid I saw was the one by... crap, lol Efiserum Eff...something, lol, the melodic/symphonic/death/folk metal one. It's something similar in a way as to what I'd listen to, except slightly distinct. I was digging it actually, and it's something typical of some of the more (cheesier? lol) power metal bands, that sing about legends and dragons and what not, which is pretty cool in my book.  :cool:

Third song i listened to was the first Epica one you listed. I think my friend will dig this! She got me into Nightwish (symphonic metal FTW!) and this band somewhat reminds me of them, which is a big thumbs up! I don't mind the grunting in the background either, infact it reminds me of some Evanescence songs (Amy Lee is a brilliant singer!). So yeah, you've opened me up to a few new bands so far, which I will look into further (I gotta listen to your other links too, lol).

In the mean time, I'll post a few songs I find interesting. :cool:

All right, thought I'd post a couple more Helloween songs (seeing as they're the fathers of Power Metal). Funny you say, my friend is into grindcore. I've listened to Pig Destroyer and think how the drummer doesn't get tired, lol. I don't listen to much Thrash metal, for similar reasons you give, although I have to say I dun mind a few (Metallica in this case doesn't count, lol, they're so versatile that you can't just call them "thrash metal" and they're a band I'm liking more every day). And Mike, I agree, it's why I seek the more melodic stuff, coz I can't listen to RARARARARARA or something with awful vocals and really plain and boring instrumentals. Anyways! lol....

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This is classic 80's symphonic power metal!

This song is probably Helloween's only Thrash metal song, but it's complimented with typical Helloween vocals and power metal chords! I'm loving this song more every time!

Now for a band that was inspired by Helloween (I'm pretty sure). Stratovarius: technically Neo-classical power metal (or speed metal), the vocals are inspired by 80's power metal, meanwhile the instrumentals are inspired by classical music, would you believe?  :cool:

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This song got me interested in them!

This one is an instrumental. I swear, if Bach and Beethoven and Mozart and the gang were alive today, they'd be metal gods!  :cool:

Finally, a song by one of my favourite bands, Queen! Sure, Queen are rock and pop and many other genres, but not metal. Although, one of their songs (made in 1975 I think?) may very well be the very first thrash metal song (by accident even? lol). Some people say it has influences, but it would have been very progressive at the time wouldn't you think? It's no wonder Metallica covered this song!  :mrgreen:

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Well that's all from me for now, enjoy while I listen to some more songs, ha ha.

EDIT: You put Powerslave by Iron Maiden! Woot! I got that album not long ago, loving it!  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: KillerChair on November 25, 2010, 04:48:21 PM

You guys seriously should start listening to the webradio i work with ;)

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http://cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=723

Anyways... as for my favorite bands/songs.

My nr1 favorite band first.
SOiL, A friend of mine showed me one song once and immediately i was hooked.
I still think its a bummer they dont have any europe tours soon :(

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Excuse me for being a Metallica fan.
Though only the old albums are good.

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And for the more symphonic listeners... Visions Of Atlantis.

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Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Max on November 25, 2010, 04:54:42 PM

Here's what I like.

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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xEEV-KUq0Eg/SwRusaRvkUI/AAAAAAAAAA8/VK9sHv9jBdk/s1600/Metalman.png)
Tricked ya!

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: CutmanMike on November 25, 2010, 04:58:33 PM

Quote from: "KillerChair"

And for the more symphonic listeners... Visions Of Atlantis.

Hmmm could this be my new Nightwish?

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Camo Yoshi on November 25, 2010, 04:59:09 PM

When you said green bro, I thought you were referring to me. XD

Anyway, you forgot to list Celldweller's acid-metal:

<--- FTW, it's kickass~

I <3 Celldweller.

The second song is great if you're the last human left in GvH TLMS.

I don't really care for metal when you can't hear the lyrics either.

My fav Metal-related bands (no particular order):

Breaking Benjamin
Static-X
Slayer
Slipknot (Fuck yeah, nu-metal/hardcore metal!!)
Celldweller
Skillet (They're more metal-inspired rather than actual metal...)

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Camo Yoshi on November 25, 2010, 05:03:54 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

Here's what I like.

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Tricked ya!

Actually, there's a funny little skit on Newgrounds involving Metal Man's new weapon: Metal from that one one German band that all they do is scream... :P

Mega Man's head ends up exploding and spewing blood everywhere.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Max on November 25, 2010, 05:06:37 PM

I also 'saw' (sorry) some metalman spoof where he was singing some metal song with stupid lyrics (do you like coffee? real coffee?) but I forgot where I saw it.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 05:24:45 PM

Quote from: "Yellow Devil"

I also 'saw' (sorry) some metalman spoof where he was singing some metal song with stupid lyrics (do you like coffee? real coffee?) but I forgot where I saw it.

The coffee song is from the cartoon Metalocalypse, which is about a death metal band. That song is performed by the fictional band Dethklok (the band the show chronicles).

I think it's called Coffee Jingle or something.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Camo Yoshi on November 25, 2010, 05:26:34 PM

DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COFFEE? REAL COFFEE? FROM THE HILLS OF THE COLUMBIA?

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Max on November 25, 2010, 05:28:59 PM

yeah that one

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 05:29:11 PM

Precisely. That song is so metal. :P

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Camo Yoshi on November 25, 2010, 05:33:10 PM

It made me LOL so hard... XD

My first experience with Metal was the Doom 3 theme song and Sonic Clang who remixed the original songs into a Heavy Metal cover. I was instantly hooked and stopped listening to Rap. Then I saw All Fads Die, and heard the music. Total convert from there on out.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 05:45:15 PM

Green metal bro:

Very glad you like some of that! :)

Both Helloween songs are very nice, but I'm especially digging Stratovarius! Could definitely get into that. Much melody! Freakin' love the part at 1:42 of the first song. :D That Queen song is also nice! And historically intriguing.

Random melodeath song time!

The cleans in this one are incredibly beautiful. I think it's a huge shame they couldn't get a better growler. I only like his last screaming part; throughout most of the song it just sounds awkward.

Because every topic needs In Flames:

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Melodic death metal is melodic!

Also, to counter Camo Yoshi's "acid metal" mention, I'm gonna post some industrial metal:

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Also, here's a good example of a song that manages to be both extremely heavy, and extremely melodic:

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Seriously one of the most melodic songs I've heard, that's not 8-bit video game music anyways. A huge bonus is that most words are very clear, even though he growls, at least to my ears.




And here we have the most beautiful song ever conceived:

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(This one sounds a lot like Opeth's calm stuff. Hell, even the singer sounds like Opeth's singer!)

(It's not quite metal. I'm cheating.)


EDIT: Oh yeah. Metallica kicks ass, by the way. I like most of their stuff, but my favorite era is from Ride the Lightning to the self-titled one.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: KillerChair on November 25, 2010, 06:11:16 PM

Quote from: "CutmanMike"

Quote from: "KillerChair"

And for the more symphonic listeners... Visions Of Atlantis.

Hmmm could this be my new Nightwish?

Hehe... Ive had a hate for Nightwish for a whole year once. But that was because every single person i knew listened to that band whenever i was around and mostly the same songs over and over.
I tend to listen to Nightwish every now and then these days.

Visions Of Atlantis is so much more awesome in my oppinion  :mrgreen:

Quote from: "Vyreman"

Oh yeah. Metallica kicks ass, by the way. I like most of their stuff, but my favorite era is from Ride the Lightning to the self-titled one.

Ride The Lightning is awesome...
My favorite albums are Kill Em All, Master Of Puppets, Ride The Lightning and The Black Album.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 25, 2010, 06:16:55 PM

Nightwish's Ocean Born is one of the first albums I absolutely loved. I remember playing Bucky O'Hare for the NES and listening to Sacrament of Wilderness. <3


How could I forget to mention the avent-garde metal band Shaolin Death Squad, though? These guys are the most genius musicians and lyricists ever! Two examples of their lyrics:

"we hold the key to the cage that we’ve made for our face"
"facelessness is nice here out of the light, but I’m so insecure that I’ve killed my face"

Absolutely marvelous.

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Seriously though, they're extremely talented musicians, even if the themes are beyond goofy. They NEED to make it to the top. I can't allow anything else.

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Ride The Lightning is awesome...

Absolutely.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on November 26, 2010, 06:22:28 PM

Green bro! I've been listening to the last songs you posted, and I will give my thoughts on them.

The Bereaved one was all right, it sounded a bit like Doom at the start, which was all right but yeah, I thought the singing was a bit awkward at times, otherwise not bad.

The In Flames one was really good! It was melodic and it sounded good. Only peeve about it... the singing > < lol. I think he could have sung it better (to my taste, lol). I'm not a huge fan on growling, lol. Otherwise, a great song. For some reason, the music reminded me of Ninja Gaiden 3:

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The Allegeaon one was not bad. Very fast and an interesting mix, but not my cup of tea, ha ha ha.

The Idle Blood one is quite a nice song, and a nice escape from the loud noises that is metal, ha ha. I don't know many Opeth songs, but I hear this band was compared to it a fair bit.

The last song (forgot who) was interesting, and I found myself digging it eventually. =P

All right, now for a few songs that I quite like. This one you will know Vyreman, but I'll throw it out there for others who may not have heard it. This is one of my fave songs from Judas Priest, and I especially love the melodic solo at 2:49!

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For some reason this songs reminds me of either Turbo Man or Nitro Man  :p

This is a nice fast-paced song, and the solo at 2:36 reminds me of something from Mega Man X or something.

This next band I just got to know recently. They were an 80's British heavy metal band, but I think lesser known. This first song is one of their most famous ones, and is one that got me into them. The second song is so catchy I found myself singing it, ha ha ha. Their heavy metal seems almost "pop-like" at times, but they're so catchy it seems to work.

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This guy sure knows how to scream!  :mrgreen:

This guy has a pretty versatile vocal range -starts singing the chorus- lol.

It's funny I seem to listen to all "oldies" but I think classic is best anyway? Very few new bands I like, but I might think of some and post them next!  :cool:

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 27, 2010, 03:19:45 PM

Hah, yes, even I think he could've done the In Flames one better. Although I think In Flames have musically gotten worse in recent years, I do think Anders Fridén's vocals have improved (a rare opinion). His screaming is a lot better, and he sings every now and then now (although his singing gets a lot of criticism for being "whiny", which I mostly do not agree with).

Here's my favorite song from the album before their latest:

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Very improved screaming, and I personally love his cleans.


But yeah, I understand if you don't like screaming. I was also there once, after all. That's not to say you will ever approve of it just because I eventually did, but yes, it's hard to say you wrongfully dislike growls when I used to dislike them myself! It's all good. It's an acquired taste, truly. My mission is to make you overlook these vocals for the sake of the music, rather than like them -- although the latter wouldn't be bad. :P


As for Allegaeon, I can definitely see why that one wouldn't be your cup of tea! But anyway, that part at the 4 minute mark is awesome. Reminds me a lot of Mega Man. In fact, I thought it was a direct rip-off of some Mega Man 2 tunes at first, but as I listened to those I realized it wasn't. So it was just in a similar vein. :)

As for the Katatonia/Opeth deal, yeah, some of Opeth's calm stuff is very reminiscent of Katatonia (or vice-versa). And yeah, I think Opeth's singer is far too similar to Katatonia's. Funny thing is that Opeth's singer was once IN Katatonia, although as a growler. But I guess he could have heard him SING at times (at rehearsal, or maybe they're friends, or whatever), and that style might have rubbed off on him! Or vice-versa.

And by that last song, do you mean the Shaolin Death Squad one? Lol. On that note, here's another excellent song by them:

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Can't fathom the fact that these guys are so unknown. Yeah, the themes are really unserious, but they're really the best "unserious" band I've ever heard. They don't rely on funny lyrics; they're absolutely brilliant, musically. But I guess that's subjective, but it holds true to me, so whatever. They formed in 2001, and they only have around 4 thousand listeners on Last.FM. Sigh. I guess some bands just don't make it.

I actually HADN'T heard that particular Judas Priest song, by the way! Pure Priest, right there. Magnificent. I'm pretty sure I have heard the second Priest song, though. But very good also. I especially dig the solo in that one! These guys know how to do it.

And holy crap, I haven't heard of Grim Reaper before! This is some classic shit! I really don't mind "poppiness" in heavy metal; after all, Scar Symmetry is one of my favorite bands. They're heavy as fuck, sure, but most of the choruses are very pop-like and catchy. The first song's chorus reminds me very much of Iron Maiden. It's repetitive in a way I don't mind. The scream at the end kicks ass, too. So freakin' long. Length-wise, it reminds me of a totally-completely-type-of-scream from the beginning of a Graveworm song, and also one at the end of an Annihilator song (also different). See below:

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At the very beginning. 32-second scream! I know this one isn't even edited!

At the very end, around 4:20. A bit less significant in terms of length, but still awesome. 15-second scream!

That second Grim Reaper song was also very nice! I have a new band to listen to. Thank you, green bro of metal! :D


EDIT:

Blind Guardian's speed metal days! I mean, sure, their latest album, At The Edge of Time, is seriously one of my favorite albums of all time. But this is just so awesome. Blaaaaast beeeaats!

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on November 27, 2010, 06:05:07 PM

Ohh nice, I listened to the second In Flames song and I quite like it! I think the vocals fit better in this song than the other one. For some reason in the other one I felt it could have sounded better with  "proper" singing in it. The song sounded epic and melodic, not saying it needed high powered power metal inspired vocals, but at least some singing that didn't feel as if they were forced out and belted out, yeah, and aquired taste I guess? =P As for this one (second song) it seemed to fit in pretty well.

Oh yeah, I listened to the Allegaeon one again, and yeah, I did like the bit at 4 min mark. In fact, it reminded me a lot of Quick Man's theme! I thought it was pretty cool.

Ah yes, I didn't mind the previous Shaolin Death Squad song. This one was also quite nice actually. It was something different too, but I guess a nice stray away from the RARARA as Mike calls it, hehe. Then it turned surprisingly heavier, ha ha, I should have seen that coming.

Lol! The long scream in the Graveworm song. That was seriously long, longer than the Grim Reaper one. The song itself is not bad, but I have to get used to the singing style. For me, the singing makes or breaks a song, so I'm very selective with that in mind. Otherwise, not a bad song at all. =)

Ahh, Annihilator was pretty cool! The main riff reminds me of something, oh shit! Yes, it reminds me of Hell March from Red Alert! WIN! lol. I can imagine this song being in Red Alert, or at least the instrumentals. It sounds like a song you could use in a war game. I think this and In Flames are the winners of this round, and the singing in this one wasn't overly grunty or screamy, lol. Nice scream at the end! XD It almost sounds like he accidentally stepped on a rusty nail just as he was about to belt out the last part, ha ha, but it was impressive! =) In case you haven't heard Hell March, here it is:

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Ahh yes, good old Priest. I might post some more of my faves later, but yeah, it's good that you haven't heard those songs before. Glad you liked Grim Reaper. That first song was the one that got me into them, and then I listened to more of their songs and found their catchy appeal was sticking to me.

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This song follows the similar vein of Wasted Love. Very high powered 80's metal song!

I wanna find these Grim Reaper albums now!  :mrgreen: Speaking of songs that went mainstream, here's another Helloween song that was popular on MTV. Being more "pop-like" it was easier to get noticed mainstream (much to the success of their other song I Want Out). The lyrics in this song however are silly, but it's a fun and catchy song.

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These guys know how to not take things too seriously, but still remember the music. This song was stuck in my head for weeks, lol.

If you listen to Helloween's new album (7 Sinners) they sound totally different. They are more Nu Metal now, and they have a different singer to before (well, every since 1990 or something, lol). Not bad though!

Going onto Nu Metal though, one of the few "newer" bands I like today is Disturbed (there's heaps more, but they're categorized as other forms of metal). One of the few Nu Metal ones is Disturbed though, and I guess I chose them because they weren't too "crazy" lol, and because I liked the singing style in it (makes or breaks it). This was the song that got me into them (pretty popular song).

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Thank you Guitar Hero, you introduced me to something good! lol.

Finally, a band that my friend introduced me to, Nightwish. While I don't know many songs, she showed me their rendition of Phantom of the Opera. After listening to it, I thought Opera + Metal = win! (much like how Stratovarius successfully mixed classical with metal). Enjoy!

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Their live videos are worth watching, they know how to draw the crowd!

Well that's all from me for now, I'll keep listening and keep posting.  :cool:
Also, you know Green metal bro is a pun too, metal as in made of metal, and listening to metal (real obvious I know, lol). That's so metal man... or is it Metal Man? lol.  :p

EDIT: You sneaked in Blind Guardian, lol. Ah yes, this band formed after Helloween (both are German). In fact, I think this band and another one (ahhh, the name will come to me) covered Helloween's "I Want Out." So when I remember the other band, they might be worth checking out.  :p
This song is pretty cool actually, and I have heard a bit of Blind Guardian, but not enough it seems. I got links to them after listening to Helloween. Sonata Arctica I think was the other band that covered them, not sure, worth a look.  :D

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: RainsLikeSnow on November 28, 2010, 01:03:32 AM

Long post is long!!!

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: KillerChair on November 28, 2010, 01:34:38 AM

Helloween - Dr stein... HELL YES!!!

And now for some folk metal.

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And if you like Dio aswell as Killswitch Engage.

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Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 28, 2010, 12:49:15 PM

Green metal bro: dats a lot of text. I'll get to you later! :D

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I take your Korpiklaani and raise it with the far less silly, and quite frankly superior, Eluveitie:

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In my opinion, of course. :)

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And if you like Dio aswell as Killswitch Engage.

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Not a HUGE fan of Killswitch Engage, although I do like them, but that one is very good!

EDIT: Rofl. That music video is great. So cheesy. XD I love when the guy pokes the other guy's guitar. Also when that guy looks inside of the book and goes like "what?!". It might just beat The Black Dahlia Murder's bowling video!


EDIT 2: Has anyone seen the Spider-Man movies? Epica's rendition of the score gives me goosebumps.

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And I think everyone have seen the Star Wars movies.

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Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on November 29, 2010, 02:45:44 PM

Quote from: "RainsLikeSnow"

Long post is long!!!

Ha ha yes, long post is post (I mean long, lol).

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Helloween - Dr stein... HELL YES!!!

Hey nice! Did you know Dr. Stein before-hand or just listened to it then? I only heard it this year, and I quickly grew fond of it. =)

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And now for some folk metal.

I liked the folk metal one, and the video clip was funny, lol! They sound pretty good, even if the lead singer sounds drunk, lol, they have a good melody and sure know how to rock it like it's 1399, ha ha (or 999)!

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And if you like Dio aswell as Killswitch Engage.

I love this Dio song! First time I hear Killswitch's version, and I have to say the singer sure knows how to sing it! The instrumentals are more modern (original song was 80's after all) but it sounds good! I didn't expect him to scream the chorus (clearly I don't listen to enough Killswitch Engage, lol). The solo was awesome as well, and the drum outro. =D

GREEN METAL BRO!

Seeing as you need more time to look at my previous post, I won't clutter this one with too much text. =P And I will post less videos (that and I have to think of more anyway, lol). So I'll begin with the text first:

Eluviete is an interesting band, lol. I preferred the first song but yeah, I think it's acquired taste, coz I don't usually listen to this type of metal, but I liked how it was melodic, and not just RARARA, lol. I liked the bit at 2 minutes in the second song, it sorta reminded me of a game and of something else I can't quite remember, lol.

The Epica ones were pretty good! Mixing the original orchestral score sound with metal, quite an idea. I'm interested to know what other music they cover and that album. The Spiderman one was pretty cool, but the Imperial March one kicked arse, lol. If you ever played Force Commander, the title menu music was a rock remix of the Imperial March, but this is the first metal one I listen to. =P

Seeing as KillerChair brought up Dio, I'll post two songs with him. =) ENJOY!

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Though I seem to prefer classic Sabbath with Ozzy, Dio was definitely the better singer.

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This song is beautiful! Gives me goosebumps!

Rock on Ronnie James Dio! m/

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on November 30, 2010, 11:35:25 AM

A VERY BRIEF INTERVENTION!

Here's an epic song by Epica:

Apart from the regular symphonic metal, this has a part that sounds like black metal (thankfully instrumental), a part that sounds like something Opeth would do, and as usual, some death metal mixed in. Some calm parts, some really heavy stuff. Quite a bit of variety. A mixed bag to be certain. I love Epica. Although there ARE some parts I don't like...the stupid dialogue sections.


I'll get back to you real soon, I promise :p Just listened to this (not for the first time, mind you) and wanted to share it.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Vyreman on December 02, 2010, 01:00:12 PM

GREEN METAL BRO!  Now it is time for the long overdue reply! It will be a seperate comment so you'll know the topic is updated. :p I'm guessing this reply will be brief. As much so that it will feel unnecessary that I took my time as I did. But whatever!

Strangely enough, usually (not always) the vocals makes or breaks a song for me as well. But yeah, I've grown to love these harsh ones, so I judge them on their own merits; bad screaming cripples the song, good screaming elevates it. Makes sense, I guess? And yeah, the scream is absolutely ridiculously long.

I hadn't heard that Red Alert one before (because I haven't even played the game, I guess... *covers his head* No, don't slap me!). It does indeed sound a bit like that, though! Pretty good.

The Grim Reaper song is, as expected, very nice! And, on that note...

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:p

That Helloween song is a bit silly, but still nice.

As for Disturbed, I used to listen to those guys. Good band. My favorite song is probably... Uhm... Err... *checks Spotify* ..Erhm... Guarded or Voices, maybe? Have you listened to their latest album yet, by the way? Asylum? It seems pretty good, even if it's a bit different.

Ah... Nightwish! An old-time fan of that band. I don't listen to any of their new stuff, but yeah, one of the first metal bands I loved. Oceanborn is still one of my favorite albums.

As for the pun, I don't think I actually noticed that. I love puns. XD

I know of Sonata Arctica. I like some of their stuff, but a lot is almost...too commercial for my tastes. I know I said poppiness isn't a big deal, but there's always a limit. :p Lol.


Have a good one. o

EDIT: Wait. Right. You made another post too. I'll get to that one in a few.

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on December 07, 2010, 03:07:03 PM

GREEN METAL BRO!

Sorry I have been away for days, so I haven't had a chance to log onto the forums. I am here to let you know that I'm still going to continue with this thread.  :p

Unfortunately I'm a bit sleepy right now to reply properly to the songs (and to recommend another couple of songs) but I thought I'd let you know I'm still here, hehe.

I will edit this tomorrow and write the proper content.  :cool:

Cheers bro, and rock on! m/

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: CutmanMike on December 08, 2010, 04:09:46 PM

I'm actually surprised no one has mentioned the dragons!

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Anyone who's played Guitar Hero 3 knows this one.

Btw did you know that the members of Dragonforce were inspired by retro games? Check the intro of this song out

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Now listen to this old c64 tune from Last Ninja (game you've never heard of)

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Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: Snake33AU on December 08, 2010, 04:13:16 PM

GREEN METAL BRO!

Lol, I finally decided to comment back on your video links!  :mrgreen: lol.
Again, sorry I have been away for days without letting anyone know, but now I'm back.

All right, that Epica song was well, Epic, lol. At first I thought it sounded pretty dark and heavy (something I don't normally listen to) but it seemed to go well with the symphony. It got even more melodic afterwards, and changed a few times (including an awesome slow bit) which I really liked. An interesting song that one.  :)

Ha ha nice, I didn't know Steve Grimmett was still singing! How new is that song? Though I like it how it sounds like something classic 80's (like back in the Grim Reaper days) and it shows he still knows how to rock it! I really like this song, short but sweet!  :cool: Thanks for that link.

Oh yeah, you can look at the Dio songs whenever you want (they're good!) but I think I will limit my video posts to two from now on (just to make it easier and getting this thread flowing even faster).  :p

This first song you probably know, but it's been stuck in my head for a while now. For the others who don't know it, this entire album is great! Every song in the entire album uses my three fave power chords too, lol.

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I love the solo @ 4:14! Sounds heroic.

Also, you might know this second song. I was playing the new version of Robot Unicorn Attack (Heavy Metal edition) (if you don't know what that is, google it, it's fun, lol) and the track they play in that was getting stuck in my head, so I had to look it up. It was this song from none other than this band.

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Epic! Just epic!  :p

That's all from me for now, I hope you enjoy the vids!  :mrgreen:

CUTMAN MIKE!

I did not see you post, lol. Ahh yes, that Through the Fire and Flames was made more popular on GH3!  :mrgreen: Ha ha, such a bastard song. I do like the fact they use chiptunes inspired music (or MIDI) but yeah, I dunno, they could perform better live, but yeah, I don't mind them. I'll have to listen to that other song and the chiptune. Just give me a few mins. lol.

EDIT:

Cutman Mike, I listened to the other DragonForce song. I quite liked it, it was pretty good. Typical DragonForce, but it worked well, and the hectic guitar work was very video game inspired. Too true on never knowing about The Last Ninja... coz I don't know it. =S lol. It sounded interesting, and no doubt DF used it in part of their song. The Last Ninja tune in itself was pretty good too, and it did sound very Japanese inspired.

Thanks for the links Mike!  :cool:

Title: Re: The heavy metal topic!
Post by: KillerChair on December 08, 2010, 05:07:57 PM

Dragonforce... Yeah... I think they should variate more in what they make.
The drummer does the same thing every song over and over and over and the guitarists just solo through all songs. Theres a running gag with alot of friends about mine about Dragonforce thanks to how similar all their songs are.
I dont say i think they suck. Its just that they could be better.

Now for some System Of A Down.
These dudes are awesome. To bad they split up.

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And some french noise.
I dislike france in many ways, But the metal that comes from there kicks ass.

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If anyone here is french than i would like to say its nothing personal.
Alot of french people seem just to have an enormous ego and i dislike that.