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Gaming => Mega Man Discussion => Topic started by: ajx9000 on June 22, 2011, 06:08:32 PM

Title: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on June 22, 2011, 06:08:32 PM
In Megaman 1, i think the firestorm causes a little more damage than thunder beam to the megaman clone in wily 2. It's been a while ever since i played MM1 so tell me if i'm right or wrong. If i am right, i hope my advice helps!  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Nuy on June 22, 2011, 06:37:28 PM
Its harder to dodge seeing as the clone likes to hug you.. a lot.. and with that sheild.. yeah.. IMO its best to use the Ice Slasher.
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Post by: Jafar on June 22, 2011, 06:59:21 PM
Super Arm duel is the way to go!
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on June 22, 2011, 07:31:34 PM
Well to me the clone doesn't spam weapons as much as you can. And with that shield to hug him you can really knock him down.
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Post by: BiscuitSlash on June 23, 2011, 04:10:37 PM
On my first attempt (and still today -_-) I found that fight really hard, way harder than I expected. I found that using hyper bombs actually works quite well in terms of weakening him down! (Can't seem to repeat this strategy now)
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Post by: NemZ on June 23, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Fire storm is the way to go.  Just jump before you shoot and more often than not the copy will shoot below you then jump right up into the shield.
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Post by: ice on June 23, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
one time I fought him, I used buster only and fired nonstop, he kept jumping and fireing over my head, also, screw thunderbeam, I killed the wily machine with fire storm with no cheats, also PS, NEVER use ice slasher on any boss except fireman, it dosent damage anything except minor enemies and freezing bigeyes
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Post by: Nuy on June 23, 2011, 11:10:46 PM
He has Crash Man/Elec Man like AI. Its just like Elec Man in the fact that its too much of a hectic fight that no one ever notices it.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: HertzDevil on June 24, 2011, 09:50:43 AM
the select button wins and you know it
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: BiscuitSlash on June 24, 2011, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: "ice"
also PS, NEVER use ice slasher on any boss except fireman, it dosent damage anything except minor enemies and freezing bigeyes

Something, many people don't know is that it's similar thing with leaf shield and centaur flash! Only the one robot master weak to them takes damage.
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Post by: LlamaHombre on June 25, 2011, 10:59:10 PM
Another reason NOT to use Leaf Shield!

And I always fight Air Man buster-only like a boss, soooo
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Post by: ice on June 26, 2011, 07:00:57 AM
try using leaf shield on crashman's pipi ladder, you'll see, YOU'LL SEE...theres also a spot on the ladder area were you can leaf camp and gain alot of 1ups and health by killing pipi's

(bets 85% of people on this forum has never used leafshield outside of airman)
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Post by: WheelieCarbonate on June 26, 2011, 07:02:05 AM
I use it in CrashMans stage and wily stage 4 to keep safe from Tellies on the moving things.
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Post by: BiscuitSlash on June 26, 2011, 08:21:03 AM
Sorry ice, I have actually used Leaf Shield! In fact I tend not to bother using it on airman.

Ironically I find Leaf Shield most useful on Woodman's stage, because of the fact that you can kill those pipis, hotdogs and gorilla things in one hit easily
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Post by: ice on June 26, 2011, 08:25:41 AM
what do you mean sorry? 85% means theres a good 19% that dose use it, not to mention this is a big community
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Post by: ajx9000 on June 28, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
Quote from: "NemZ"
Fire storm is the way to go.  Just jump before you shoot and more often than not the copy will shoot below you then jump right up into the shield.
Pretty much what i do.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on June 28, 2011, 10:37:18 PM
Oh and the only use that i found for leaf shield is at the ladder section in crashman's stage. The centaur flash is only useful against windman, nothin else.
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Post by: Nuy on June 28, 2011, 10:43:58 PM
Except Centaur Flash is extremely useful. Really the only useless weapon in MM6 is Plant Barrier and thats only because you can't keep walking forward and attack with it and not get hit. You have to stand still. Theres also the pitifully low ammo count.
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Post by: BiscuitSlash on June 30, 2011, 05:42:44 PM
It's funny because I actually find ALL MM6 weapons really good! Thing is with plant barrier is that it's like a really strong skull barrier. Skull only does around 1-2 damage I believe, while plant does way more (I think it's around 4)

The only bad weapon is spark shock. THAT'S TERRIBLE, NOT THUNDER WOOL
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: Nuy on June 30, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
MM6+ Weapons are the only weapons that have a set number of damage they do. 1-5 weapons deal different amounts of damage to different enemies. Also, Sakugarne is worse than Spark Shock.
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Post by: BiscuitSlash on June 30, 2011, 05:47:30 PM
Haven't played the GB games or MM7/8 (played RM7FC though). Even Capcom probably don't like the original spark shock, which is why it was improved for MM3GB
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Post by: Nuy on June 30, 2011, 06:21:37 PM
Every Weapon was improved in the GB version(hold for metal blade). Also, every weapon can be made use of one was or another (besides Sakugarne) its just weather or not its a good idea to use it or if theres something better to use in its place. A lot of pepole play through the game just to beat it so they tend to only use a weapon when its hard for them, which I find silly. Its the reason everyone hates the MM3 set of weapons, and, to a degree, the MM5 set.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on July 15, 2011, 05:22:53 AM
Quote from: "Michael712"
Ironically I find Leaf Shield most useful on Woodman's stage, because of the fact that you can kill those pipis, hotdogs and gorilla things in one hit easily

I hate to break it up to you but you don't get wood shield until you beat the stage for the first time (unless if you use game genie codes, otherwise...yeah >.<)
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: Shade Guy on July 15, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: "ajx9000"
Quote from: "Michael712"
Ironically I find Leaf Shield most useful on Woodman's stage, because of the fact that you can kill those pipis, hotdogs and gorilla things in one hit easily

I hate to break it up to you but you don't get wood shield until you beat the stage for the first time (unless if you use game genie codes, otherwise...yeah >.<)
...That's why it's ironic.

Also, the MM3 set of weapons (or at least some of them) aren't that terrible. I found Hard Knuckle to be useful for taking down Hammer Joes, and the Knuckle actually destroys their projectiles and sometimes drops useful items for you. Even Top Spin had some uses. For example, the monkeys in Hard Man's stage can be destroyed instantly with Top Spin. Same goes with those enemies in Snake Man's stage that drop stuff on you from above (at least, it destroys the projectiles the enemy drops). Needle Cannon can be a good Mega Buster replacement in some points. Magnet Missile can also be useful, for example, those hologram machines in Shadow Man's stage that makes all terrain space-ey that are usually out of reach...Are in reach. Not sure about the other weapons, though. Search Snake and Spark Shot I admit are pretty useless.
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Post by: PressStart on July 15, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
I think the trouble with Top Spin is that there's no way to tell IF it's gonna work or not, unless you've memorized how it works against every enemy. It's like some kinda cruel gamble that's not worth it 99% of the time!

But it's still great!

Also Spark Shot is such a let down. It shoulda just paralyzed enemies and made it so you could pass through em!
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Post by: Shade Guy on July 15, 2011, 10:28:05 AM
That's true. You're never going to realise that it insta-kills so many things without finding out beforehand. Seriously, who figured out Gamma's second phase's weakness on their own?

Spark Shot should have been more like Chill Spike, in the sense that it stuns enemies and lets you switch weapons. Then Spark Shot would be a life saver.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: BiscuitSlash on July 15, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
Thunder Wool > Spark Shock
Hands down

Only uses I have found that make spark shock a good and efficient weapon to use:
Magnet Mang
Big Stomper things
....I can't remember the other one. Using it on normal enemies very rarely works

As for thunder wool....everyone should facepalm so hard that they break their face. (Ok maybe not that hard). I really, REALLY need to make a "Thunder Wool doesn't suck video" someday.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: LlamaHombre on July 15, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
Bubble Lead bounces off Tellies.
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Post by: BiscuitSlash on July 15, 2011, 04:52:35 PM
The only weapon that does....

As much as I like Bubbleman, he has a real sucky weapon. (At least it's better than spark)
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Post by: Nuy on July 15, 2011, 06:20:20 PM
That is an issue with top spin but not a big one. Its pretty easy to tell what it effects. I think the only exception to this is the small snake heads in snake mans stage that in my opinion should die to top spin. On general top spin works mainly on stronger enemies which is probably why it doesn't kill the snakes. All in all I LOVE top spin.  I even use it a lot in my no damage run for all you pepole that think to use it you need to get hurt.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on July 16, 2011, 05:40:59 PM
Well yeah, the MM3 weapons, including top spin, does have their uses. Pretty much THE most useless weapon in the game is spark shock because it doesn't do that much damage to enemies and if a stunned enemy is in the way, i have to either wait for it to be running again or have no choice but to run into the enemy and move on. The main reason is that if an enemy's stunned by spark shock, i can't switch weapons during that period, which SUX.  :mad:
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: ajx9000 on July 16, 2011, 05:43:02 PM
Oh and at least you can use bubble lead on those platform speeder things (i think). I also haven't played any of the GB Megaman games yet, so i might get into that and see how ultimately useless Sakugarne really is.
Title: Re: Random Advice.
Post by: BiscuitSlash on July 16, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
Bubble Lead is kinda okay in a way. At least it is a LOT more useful than spark
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Post by: ajx9000 on July 17, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
Indeed.  :D
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Post by: ajx9000 on September 01, 2011, 05:37:04 PM
Well, i have played and completed all of the 5 MM games for the GB (except 5, i'm still playing) and it is clear that sakugarne is officially the WORST WEAPON IN HISTORY.