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Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch => Projects & Creative => DECORATE and ACS Modifications => Topic started by: SickSadWorld on July 08, 2011, 03:04:03 PM

Title: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SickSadWorld on July 08, 2011, 03:04:03 PM

Announcing the new
Eddie Item - v1b

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http://static.best-ever.org/wads/eddieitem-v1b.wad (http://static.best-ever.org/wads/eddieitem-v1b.wad)

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What is it?

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This replacement for Eddie makes it so Eddie drops items instead of random weapons. It was born from an observation when playing MM10 on the way Eddie worked there.
Sounds great, but what exactly is different?

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For starters, Eddie spawns only 'common-ish' items. He chooses from a different list depending on the game mode. For now there's special lists for Deathmatch, Duel, and CTF modes. Other modes with items will use the Deathmatch list. If it isn't clear by now Eddie now reappears in Duel mode!

In Megaman 10, Eddie always dropped 4 items. In this version he drops from 1 to 4 of items in the following lists. This means he can drop as few as 1 and as many as 4 from the list. You can also carry up to 3 Eddie summons instead of 1 and he respawns twice as fast as normal. All Eddie locations in existing maps will be replaced with this type when loading this wad.

In Deathmatch, Eddie will drop:
"ETank",
"WTank",
"MTank",
"WeaponEnergy",
"BigWeaponEnergy",
"SmallHealth",
"BigHealth",
"Item1",
"TrebleSentry",
"TangoSummon",
"RushCoil",
"ExitUnit",
"RushJet"

In Duel, Eddie will drop:
"WTank",
"WeaponEnergy",
"BigWeaponEnergy",
"SmallHealth",
"BigHealth"

In CTF, Eddie will drop:
"WTank",
"WeaponEnergy",
"BigWeaponEnergy",
"SmallHealth",
"BigHealth",
"Item1",
"TangoSummon",
"RushCoil"

How do I run it?

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Simply load the wad in the launcher.

You can add this to any other wad you like and it will replace only Eddie.
Be sure to check out the original example (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=81712#p81712)!

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SaviorSword on July 08, 2011, 03:34:43 PM

Interestin' Eddie nerf. What's a good combo of stuff that ya made that I could host together? Plenty of good stuff to choose, so give me a shot.

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SickSadWorld on July 08, 2011, 03:39:13 PM

Quote from: "SaviorSword"

Interestin' Eddie nerf. What's a good combo of stuff that ya made that I could host together? Plenty of good stuff to choose, so give me a shot.

Thanks for your interest!

People seem to really like this Eddie thing with CTF at the moment. I might end up using the Duel list for DM as well, but we'll see given more playtesting. Another thing people have been suggesting is to keep the random weapon generator somehow. I may end up using Reggae for this, since the Eddie internal stuff for spawning weapons is left intact.

To answer your question I suggest doing the ?box mode and this on either CTF or DM mode. The order matters, so load ?box mode first then the Eddie replacement if you want the ?boxes and then Eddie to be actual Eddie instead of a red ?box.

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: BiscuitSlash on July 08, 2011, 04:09:12 PM

Are you sure he dropped 4 items in MM10? I'm almost certain he always drops 5

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SaviorSword on July 08, 2011, 05:46:36 PM

Well, I hosted nrgydual v1a and Eddie Item in that order, however it seems that it had no effect on the weapons. I musta done somethin' wrong.
 :?

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: TheBladeRoden on July 08, 2011, 06:04:27 PM

You should make it so he can drop another eddie

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: -FiniteZero- on July 08, 2011, 06:18:20 PM

Eddie within another Eddie...

MM8BDM presents: INCEPTION

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SickSadWorld on July 09, 2011, 12:00:42 AM

Quote from: "SaviorSword"

Well, I hosted nrgydual v1a and Eddie Item in that order, however it seems that it had no effect on the weapons. I musta done somethin' wrong.
 :?

Yep you did.

?box wad is called 'nrgdm-v2a'. See also this post (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65813#p65813).

Quote from: "Michael712"

Are you sure he dropped 4 items in MM10? I'm almost certain he always drops 5

He drops 4.

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: BiscuitSlash on July 09, 2011, 10:43:49 AM

Just tested it out now and nope, he does in fact drop 5!

Title: Re: [Item Replacement] Eddie Item v1b
Post by: SickSadWorld on July 09, 2011, 11:08:07 AM

Quote from: "Michael712"

Just tested it out now and nope, he does in fact drop 5!

He drops 4 'items'. If you analyze it statistically as I have been doing, on average the 5th thing he drops is not considered an item for the purposes of MM8BDM.

I may consider changing it later but probably not. I may even reduce the number of awarded items instead of increasing it as well.