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Gaming => Mega Man Discussion => Topic started by: PressStart on August 16, 2012, 03:37:55 AM
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(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5553/003vyj.jpg)
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/15/ ... d-for-ios/ (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/15/new-mega-man-game-rockman-x-cross-over-announced-for-ios/)
It’s a world where all the worlds of Rockman have crossed over. The gulf of space-time has been closed thanks to the efforts of Dr. Wily, Sigma and other villains to Rockman and others! Dr Light and Dr. Cossack work together in creating a new robot to oppose this crisis. A production model, this robot uses “battle memory” that has been scattered over the world, and possesses infinite potential to transform and increase his power. The player battles evil as this new type robot. Create your own Rockman, and battle with others to protect peace!
Click on the article to see the uhm, "sweet" screens!
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Wow, sounds cool! The screenshots are a little nondescript, but it looks like it could have a lot of potential! Any new Mega Man is good Mega Man in my book, so I'm excited. :cool:
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This game had better come out in America or I'll eat Llama's TGoat.
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Hum....Ios ?....the graphism are worse than MMU.
But...i hope it's not the final Rockman Online, Protodude told us, Noewiz changed a lot of the R.O program and staff....no it'snt =p
Guys, with mm8bdm, you can't make a 2D mm8bdm ? I mean, plat forme game with the robotmasters?....
Im pretty sure it can be better than this with your capacities<_____<
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iOS
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeaaaaaah.............
Whoever dares say Rockman is not a niche franchise and is not dead, please step forward and take the barrage of Metal Blades coming from out of my latest creation, the Metal Blade Machinebuster®.
Oh, and go away.
I guess we can focus now on all the UNOFFICIAL fangame projects the fans are starting out of sheer love towards the franchise and to keep it artistically alive and fresh instead of an OFFICIAL shovelware "social RPG" iOS piece of software.
/thread
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Most of us wanted a new game but..... a social phone game.....WELL TIME TO START PLAYING ROCKMAN 10 FARMVILLE EDITION
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This is not what I was expecting for Mega Man's anniversary.
To say the least.
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I don't like setting high expectation for megaman games in the first place, but this.....this is going to be a train wreck.
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Do not be in bad spirits my friends. At least we're making a game worth a Mega Man fan's time :p
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Do not be in bad spirits my friends. At least we're making a game worth a Mega Man fan's time :p
Exactly....if there was a PC version, i will buy it....but i dont have any Ipad or others things like that =(
MMX <3
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http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/25/ ... -of-xover/ (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/25/what-do-our-far-east-friends-think-of-xover/)
Apparently not even the Japanese fans are looking foward to it. I predict that the game could end up cancelled or scrapped, because apparently one of the possible reasons Mega Man Universe was ditched besides the earthquake was because lots of people were complaining about the art style being used.
Still, nice job on the article's artwork, Press Start.
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“I’m an idiot for having expectations.”
This is simultaneously hilarious, true, and depressing.
Well, at least we still have 8BDM to keep the name of "Mega Man" alive... :ugeek:
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Yeah, the Megaman X ios thing was puke awful enough. It would at least help if it....y'know, wasn't in that same style?
To think I could have a copy of Megaman Legends 3 sitting in my 3DS game pile to satisfy my 3DS a bit more. Pretty sure over 100,000 people (http://www.facebook.com/GetMeOffTheMoon) is enough support and profit to carry on making the game and please a lot of people. They would barely reach 1,000 people for Rockman Xover at the way this is going.
Capcom why
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They would barely reach 1,000 people for Rockman Xover at the way this is going.
I doubt they'd reach 100! And I would prefer for Universe to be made, not Legends 3, but well any Mega Man game is good!
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cancelled or scrapped
Megaman Legends 3, anyone?
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Pretty sure over 100,000 people (http://www.facebook.com/GetMeOffTheMoon) is enough support and profit to carry on making the game and please a lot of people.
Sadly, no. It isn't. The Mega Man Fandom may be numerous, but we are too niche to generate a decent profit compared to the games they could be making. It doesn't matter how much money we'd be willing to throw at them for Legends 3, it's nothing compared to the much, much larger amount of people who are throwing their own money at them for games like Dragon's Dogma or Dead Island. We just aren't profitable enough for them to divert their resources towards us. Instead, we get minor games like this, because they don't have to do any significant resource investment for these kinds of games.
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http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/25/what-do-our-far-east-friends-think-of-xover/
Apparently not even the Japanese fans are looking foward to it. I predict that the game could end up cancelled or scrapped, because apparently one of the possible reasons Mega Man Universe was ditched besides the earthquake was because lots of people were complaining about the art style being used.
Still, nice job on the article's artwork, Press Start.
Thanks dude!
I still feel bad for ever complaining about Universe!
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Pretty sure over 100,000 people (http://www.facebook.com/GetMeOffTheMoon) is enough support and profit to carry on making the game and please a lot of people.
Sadly, no. It isn't. The Mega Man Fandom may be numerous, but we are too niche to generate a decent profit compared to the games they could be making. It doesn't matter how much money we'd be willing to throw at them for Legends 3, it's nothing compared to the much, much larger amount of people who are throwing their own money at them for games like Dragon's Dogma or Dead Island. We just aren't profitable enough for them to divert their resources towards us. Instead, we get minor games like this, because they don't have to do any significant resource investment for these kinds of games.
Exactly, 100 000 is nothing for a game sale anyways and i'm pretty sure; a lot of "like" are not from the buyers of Megaman Legend 3" but just...the megaman fan, as me.... :mrgreen:
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Well then, this is great, to think I could have MegaMan Universe downloaded onto my PS3 by now, and have a 3DS with Legends, yet they decide to make a social RPG, I mean I know that MegaMan fans across the entire world wouldn't make them enough money. But in my opinion, money isn't everything a gaming company should care about. I mean, look at Valve, they took the time and money to create good games with good sequels, ie Half life. That satisfy a gamer's wants and needs. They make a lot of money, but they also allow the fans of their games to get involved in develpoment of the game, ie: Steam Workshop, Source Filmmaker. and have little shoutouts to the gaming community via internet memes. ie: TF2 Meet the Team series, "Copyright LOLOLOL". As well as letting gamer made games be available on Steam, as well as developing games while taking in fan input.
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http://www.destructoid.com/rockman-xove ... 4490.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/rockman-xover-will-be-at-tgs-protagonist-has-stupid-name-234490.phtml)
More info on Rockman Xover, involving extra notes and the name of the new Megaman! Is his name any good? There's a clue in that url.
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There's also the problem that fans of one series aren't necessarily fans of the others, so a crossover might well end up appealing to nobody. For example, if it's a side-stroller will the legends and BN/SF players care? If it's an RPG-ish thing (which I actually suspect given the "level 5" in the corner) will any of the classic/X/zero/ZX fans care?
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Oh hey this looks pretty cool.
iOS
Never mind.
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A TGS Trailer!
More info hereabouts:
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/09/19/ ... f-rockman/ (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/09/19/tgs-trailer-for-rockman-xover-celebrates-25-years-of-rockman/)
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Sweet avatar, bro!
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Barely 20 seconds of gameplay footage
The rest is just flashy words and cool video effects and toying around with stock artwork
GOTY right here folks
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Barely 20 seconds of shoddy gameplay footage you mean. There is nothing good to be expecting from this attempt.
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That dislike bar.
And you can totally read "Rockman Over" from the title.
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Epic dislikes bar ! :lol:
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Darth Vader's light saber without the handle.
Though this is still terrible and not good for MM's 25th anniversary, they do seem really confident with this. If anything though, there are a lot of things that need fixing, such as that skip button.
The protagonist's design looks good, but "Over-1"? Wat?
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA the video is unlisted and the comments are disabled. It's like Capcom knew what was going to happen.
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I'm gonna guess this is just a quick cash-in on the "rising mobile gaming industry"
This is far from a serious attempt at a conmemoration to the series in general.
I still remember those days of youth where I wished that Rockman was finally put to rest after MM9. Well, now we have THIS...needs more games, ey?
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Yeah this is going to be....f-fun I mean who doesnt like megaman r-right? OH GOD CAPCOM WHY
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http://www.gamesabyss.com/rockman-is-ov ... pressions/ (http://www.gamesabyss.com/rockman-is-over-xover-hands-on-impressions/)
(warning, foul language in the article)
Looks like our predictions were true, Capcom's REALLY screwed up this time.
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Yes, my dear readers, Rockman is indeed over; it says so in the fucking title.
When Keiji Inafune left, people were saying "R.I.P. Megaman", despite him still going and not being dead.
That's not what has killed him.
R.I.P. Rockman, 1987 - 2012
You will be greatly missed, along with all those amazing experiences your games have given us. It's a real shame to see you go.
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Mega Man will never die.
As long as the fans who care about him, and keep making amazing fangames, such as MM8BDM...
Mega Man will never die.
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Mega Man will never die.
Sorry, but I genuinely heard his explosion.
Fangames will keep part of his soul intact, especially since we have fans that can do much better than crapcom (certain rom hacks such as 4MI prove this).
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To be honest, if you're talking about Capcom's MegaMan games, then they died a long time ago, everyone knows that.
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No, that was just Megaman standing on a Yoku block with another one above him and a bottemless pit under him. Crapcom told him to try and jump to the one above but he failed and fell to his death.
Really, this piece of shit makes it seem like he was still alive.
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The franchise is far from dead, seeing how it is still marketable in some ways.
The game part of the franchise, though. That fucking died with MM10. I said it back then, and I'll repeat it now: we're not getting anything better than what we currently have.
Back in 2010, I said "fuck official games". I am satisfied by what Capcom was best capable of offering. Oh, as far as I'm concerned, they're done with Rockman games. Back then I also bowed to believe that anyone besides Capcom is more than free to try their hand at a new Rockman game, be it official or not.
Rockman 4 Minus Infinity is marginally better than anything Capcom has ever tried to do with any game on the franchise in over 25 years, save for MMX1, BN6 and MML1. The capacity was there, and was never exploited until now.
The Capcom we knew and trusted died with Resident Evil 4 (PS2 release). There is nothing good to be expected from them nowadays. Just deal with it and embrace us, the fans, as the responsibles for keeping the character and the games legitimately alive.
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You know, I actually was thinking "If this weren't for the IOS, I'd get it", but hearing how it's just MegaMan on a conveyor belt... kinda not anymore...
With AA5 and Wright vs Layton, I will pretty much forgive Capcom for all its sins anyways.
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Rockman 4 Minus Infinity is marginally better than anything Capcom has ever tried to do with any game on the franchise in over 25 years, save for MMX1, BN6 and MML1.
Thank you! I've heard from some people that they prefered BN6 the second-to-least out of the BN series (BN4 was the worst). I have no idea why people hate BN6, but I digress.
Can't say I'm surprised. I said at the beginning of this thread that this game was a train wreck. I think Capcom's motivation for this game was to give fans hope of Megaman not being dead but they're done trying to sell Megaman. Hell, I doubt anyone in my school knows who Megaman is, so why try to sell it? If Megaman is to stay alive, it's up to the fans because Capcom is done with Megaman, and this sad excuse for a game is the proof.
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Exactly what I keep trying to say, TheDoc.
The Megaman fanbase is a niche market. A very vocal fanbase, but still a small fanbase. The problem with the fanbase is that they are very vocal, so vocal that they outright confuse themselves into thinking they are a bigger market than they really are. Megaman has always been a small niche market, further divided between even more fanbases based on which series we're talking about.
Heck I've even seen fans compare Megaman to being as big as Mario or Sonic. It is not.
So to put it simply, Capcom doesn't see much of a dollar value in us anymore, and would rather work towards its more bigger franchises like Street Fighter and Resident Evil.
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The Rockman franchise, despite it being small and not being a blockbuster, has a substantial part in gaming history.
This is how it is remembered. It's not remembered as a big blockbuster franchise, but as one of the franchises that helped shape the new gaming industry during the NES era. This is how it should stay: a piece of gaming history. Anything further than that will lead to the same fate Banjo-Kazooie met.
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Despite Rockman having some bad games chugged out recently It is far from dead and saying it is is just stupid
Sure Crapcom made some shitty choices all games do remember Sonic 06 and Sonic Unleashed or Sonic X
Those were shit but at least Sega is trying now.
Plus we still have this megaman fan game hopefully when this dies (sad but it will happen) Crapcom will get their shit together
Megaman 9 and 10 were a step in the right direction but they were just a cash in on the "REMEMBER THE OLD ONE GUIS?!" trend
Rockman X over is an abomination but so were the other Iphone megaman games and will soon be forgotten like that One time bubble man wasn't ridiculous
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The reason why Sega is trying now is because they have a reason to try: Those games still sold well over a million copies. We don't know how much MM9/10 sold, but probably nowhere near that much considering the top selling Mega Man game of all time was MM2 at 1.5 million copies.
I mean, look at this chart: http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Mega+Man
The highest selling individual release (as in a game where they don't count two versions together, which just inflates things because there's more incentive to buy both versions) in the past decade is the Mega Man Anniversary Collection on the PS2 at just 590,000 copies - really, not an impressive number when you look at pretty well any other franchise. Let's compare it to recent installments of other franchises, shall we?:
Street Figther IV PS3 - 2.04 million (normal only, no super)
Street Fighter IV 360 - 1.64 million (normal only, no super)
Resident Evil 5 on the PS3 - 4.74 million
Resident Evil 5 on the 360 - 3.22 million
Super Mario 3D Land - 6.62 million
Sonic Generations PS3 - 840,000
Sonic Generations 360 - 770,000
Kirby's Return to Dreamland - 1.36 million
Many of those games haven't even been out a full year yet and consider that the aforementioned anniversary collection was released on the highest selling console of all time. The numbers are just bad. Hell, even when you compare it to games considered niche or "didn't sell well", it's pathetic:
Pikmin 2 - 1.2 million
Earthbound - 810,000
F-Zero GX - 650,000
Hell, there were more copies of Pikmin 2, Sonic Generations (those two versions together, not even counting steam sales), and Kirby's Return to Dreamland sold than any Mega Man X game ever. Face it: the series just isn't popular.
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As long as we have Archie and us trying to keep megaman alive r-right?
Seriously it's like they want to lose money
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Exactly. But it's good thing to see, the megaman community have a good solidarity, between the fans....we have hope...
Anyways, i will buy a new PC cause mine is near dead....and soon, i will replay MM8BDM more with all my right friends //elecman song! Cause it's like an official game with modes for me.
I don't believe that capcom is good.
For me, the only good guys are the fans who make great (fan)games like Cutstuff <3
Xover' last video is HORRIBLE. The game looks a HD electronic game in the 80"s............ :' (
totaly bad.
Cutstuff and others communities like that, Don't give up! :D
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It has an AutoPlay button.
Mega Man Xover has an AutoPlay button.
I think it's safe to call this one the last straw, guys. I mean, just look at the title--I don't know how you guys pronounce your "x"s, but if you do any shortening like I do, you've probably noticed what it sounds like...go on, say it out loud a few times to yourself. I find it no coincidence that I hear "Mega Man's over."
Well, that's the end of that. Time to fully migrate to the fanbase.
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It's actually Rockman Cross Over, just for the record. The X is a cross. It's still stupid though and fitting.
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It's actually Rockman Cross Over, just for the record. The X is a cross. It's still stupid though and fitting.
Oh.
Well, that would make sense.
You've got to realize that this is my first time here at CutStuff since June; I'm a little behind on the times :P
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Man the megaman team is really lacking I could just imagine the conversation about this "Alright guys I think we better get out a new megaman game so we need.....A SOCIAL PHONE GEAM GUIS"
Capcom: Making and then breaking childhood memories
I hope this is only the last of their blunders
The last thing we need is another Sonic situation
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The last thing we need is another Sonic situation
This is already worse than a Sonic situation, at least if it were like that, we'd get incredibly awesome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Colors) games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Generations) afterwards. But I doubt that'll happen with Mega Man, knowing the series isn't very profitable now.
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I'd get this game, except there are 2 problems. 1.) GOD DAMMIT CAPCOM STOP MAKING IOS GAMES! 2.) The autoplay button, seriously why is there an auto play button? anyway i have a question, is this an RPG it kinda looks like one to me.
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I don't mind iOS games from CAPCOM so long as they're designed well!
Ghost Trick and Phoenix Wright did rather well, after all.
I think CAPCOM just wants us to let go the hard way, or they'd be acting at least somewhat intelligently about their game design. If anything comes out from here on, I expect it to be a compilation or something old they can profit on for very little price paid.
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To be honest, I haven't really been too worried about the Autoplay feature. Giving the developers a little credit, the only reason a game like this would have things like forced running, autoplay, or turn-based boss battles would be because it isn't really about platforming or challenging gameplay so much to begin with. I'm imagining that it's more about item-collecting and stat growth over the course of several missions, where each individual one isn't really meant to be all that interesting... sort of like how you can sit there and run the elevator up and down in Tiny Tower, but that would be incredibly boring if that were the entire game. Long-term stuff is a lot harder to show in a playable demo.
Also, I thought that this was an interesting piece of context.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/09/over-7 ... d-tablets/ (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/09/over-70-of-the-games-at-the-tokyo-game-show-are-for-phones-and-tablets/)
I guess the Japanese gaming industry as a whole is leaning toward smaller mobile games, figuring that they'll get a higher profit/cost differential in the long run.
I'd love a new traditional Mega Man game as much as the next guy, but I just think people are giving Xover a bit too hard a time. From what Capcom's been saying, it sounds like they do have things planned for mid-2013 that just aren't ready yet.
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*snip*
Most Megaman series (Classic, X, etc.) are completely made up of platforming, and I'd say it was challenging.....well the first time I played through them anyways. That's pretty much what Megaman games are wrapped around.
Each character SHOULD be interesting. Take MMBN. Every character in that game was special in their own way.
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The autoplay feature is almost like a "If you are sick of this game and want to get it over with, press this button" in a way that it expects you to press it. That guy's article (the one that Turbodude posted) completely agrees with this.
I really feel sorry for the new protagonist. His design is good and enough to be a good new Megaman character, but he's the star of the game that kills of such an amazing bunch of series and crushes all those good times we've had with the games, along with any hope of Crapcom giving us any more good Megaman games. And what's more, this new protagonist is forced into this and he doesn't get a choice. He also has a dumb name. "Over-1"? Think about that, is that really a great name for a hero? Is it supposed to be an indication of the series being over? Likely a yes.
I'll be honest, if Megaman doesn't get into SSB4, I couldn't care less. The idea of him being in and raising awareness of him would have been great, but Xover is such a letdown that I don't even see why he should be in the next Smash Bros. Megaman has indeed exploded, and Crapcom can never piece him back together.
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This is already worse than a Sonic situation
I said it was only the beginning not the end plus sonic 06 and unleashed are still there.
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Sonic Unleashed is not bad though. I have no damned idea why everyone says that, but the day time levels are great. The werehog levels were the fuzzy part, but I'm sure if Sega made a Knuckles beat-em up instead, the reception would have been way better. Knuckles Beat-em up would also make so much more sense than treasure hunting.
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a Knuckles beat-em up
you know what
add some of his specials from Sonic Battle like the Rockfree Fall where he picks up a freakin' mountain and chucks it
and I'd hit that so hard my wallet wouldn't even know what happened
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Xover does look like a piece of shit, but think about it, does there really need to be any more Megaman games? There is already around 100 games in the series, which is a lot for something that apparently doesn't sell much!
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Xover does look like a piece of shit, but think about it, does there really need to be any more Megaman games? There is already around 100 games in the series, which is a lot for something that apparently doesn't sell much!
I'm fairly sure there's still plenty of room for downloadable titles like 9 and 10, or perhaps another 'collection' style release for DS/3DS. Ooh, or maybe a remake of Super Puzzle Fighter with a megaman overhaul? That would be nifty as hell.
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Xover does look like a piece of shit, but think about it, does there really need to be any more Megaman games? There is already around 100 games in the series, which is a lot for something that apparently doesn't sell much!
I'm fairly sure there's still plenty of room for downloadable titles like 9 and 10, or perhaps another 'collection' style release for DS/3DS. Ooh, or maybe a remake of Super Puzzle Fighter with a megaman overhaul? That would be nifty as hell.
And besides, may be if we buy this. they'll actually make megaman games again!
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No, if we buy this they will think this is actually good and make more of them.
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No, if we buy this they will think this is actually good and make more of them.
yeah. i wonder what japan thinks of this?
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Me too. (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/08/25/what-do-our-far-east-friends-think-of-xover/)
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Rockman Xover has now been released in Japan.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/11/29/ ... japan-now/ (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2012/11/29/rockman-xover-is-available-in-japan-now/)
http://www.rockman-corner.com/2012/11/i ... n-ios.html (http://www.rockman-corner.com/2012/11/its-here-rockman-xover-arrives-on-ios.html)
Anyone want to celebrate or party that there's a new game out now and not canceled? Or not?
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...Celebrate this crap being released? Are you insane? We lost out on way, way better Mega Man games for this.
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Really, at this point the only way we'll see a new Mega Man game that's actually Mega Man styled if we just made one ourselves, as a community.
Of course, given that Mega Man 72 and Mega Man Unlimited never came to any true fruition, this is probably a pipe dream.
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Xover does look like a piece of shit, but think about it, does there really need to be any more Megaman games? There is already around 100 games in the series, which is a lot for something that apparently doesn't sell much!
I'm fairly sure there's still plenty of room for downloadable titles like 9 and 10, or perhaps another 'collection' style release for DS/3DS. Ooh, or maybe a remake of Super Puzzle Fighter with a megaman overhaul? That would be nifty as hell.
And besides, may be if we buy this. they'll actually make megaman games again!
i actually have ideas for many mega man games (all new series's) and im going to capcom USA this summer,
i allready have the story line/script for the chars allready finished. so people, begin to see the new age of rock man!
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i actually have ideas for many mega man games (all new series's) and im going to capcom USA this summer,
i allready have the story line/script for the chars allready finished. so people, begin to see the new age of rock man!
They won't accept it good scripts or not.
Thinking they will no more than a fool's errand of "changing teh industry!!!!!1111one"
Sorry bud but you wont see any games of your scripts unless you make the game yourself.
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that, and i alsochanged wat mega man/ rock look like.
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Bump.
Prepare to die.
http://www.rockman-corner.com/2013/07/c ... ckman.html (http://www.rockman-corner.com/2013/07/capcoms-considering-bringing-rockman.html)
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Anyways, it's not an expensive game....right?....
It's just frustrating..i hope Capcom wont take the "sales" as a reference for megaman potential, if not, it's dead.
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... this was a wrong time to put OVER-1 in my avatar, right?
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Well, this game is a free social game for mobile platforms in Japan. Chances are:
A. Capcom USA will try to make profit over this somehow (make the game cost at least 1 dollar or make it "freemium" like many free mobile games are)
B. Will become a Facebook Game, which isn't bad, considering someone made a short demo of Xover in Newgrounds already.
C. They will back down, resulting in another canceled game, which will create a loop: "Xover sucks" <-> "Capcom cancelled another Mega Man".