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Title: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 26, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
Now X666Luicifer666X bullyed me in a server. I am not going in servers anymore. i had enough of the cyberbulling!  :cry:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Tengu on April 26, 2013, 06:51:09 PM
C'mon man, don't quit the whole game over some guys being jerks.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 26, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
Every Server I go in, someone bullies me!  :cry:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: CarThief on April 26, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
Unfortunately the internet has alot of these kinds of people, so you're best off by ignoring them or using other functions that might help against these problems. For example you can ignore people on Zandronum, so their messages will no longer appear, though i havent played in a while so i'm not quite sure where that option was put, probaly somewhere in the multiplayer menu though.

But to put it bluntly perhaps you're a little too young or just sensetive to be around these parts of the internet, the competetive scene (people shooting/fighting eachother in games) always has this kind of behaviour going on, and no-one can really change that.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 26, 2013, 07:07:33 PM
a little too young? I am 19...  :?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Kapus on April 26, 2013, 08:09:57 PM
Then you better be ready to deal with this kind of behavior. It's always going to be there.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: ServantofCygnus on April 26, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
I'm 12.
I deal with it well enough.
Mainly, A) ignore, B) find a wittier comeback, C) (nooby way) vote kick or D) if your server, ban. Or E) just be smarter :T
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rozark on April 26, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
If you do get confident enough to withstand them, don't comment back. Despite you wanting to rage as much as you want on them, human nature says that they are ALSO going to comment back, usually harder and/or more annoying. Words over the internet don't really bother me as much as a few other things do, but there are times that I do get irritated.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: MusashiAA on April 26, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: "ionno"
MUSASHI

HOW TO DEAL WITH BULLIES

Oh

Ok, so here's what I do: I Ignore them. With a capital I. zing. Except when it's Bike, because I like bikes.

If they kick me, ok. Just ok: no rage, no backlash, no denouncing, no nothing. Just be ok with it and move on. I personally laugh a lot at the sheer hilarity of some guy needing to prove himself to the world and himself by harassing others in a search of either virtual superiority or just for laffs, and might eventually try to vote kick the same guy (usually with no results) if I happen to find him again. Most of the time they don't kick him, though.

So there you go. Just take a chill pill, avoid yourself the embarassment of going to the forums and whine in front of everyone, and do what everyone does: ignore them. If they kick you, then just don't join if they're in a server.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 27, 2013, 04:22:01 PM
ok, thanks.... :)
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ceridran on April 27, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: "MusashiAA"
Quote from: "ionno"
MUSASHI

HOW TO DEAL WITH BULLIES

Oh

Ok, so here's what I do: I Ignore them. With a capital I. zing. Except when it's Bike, because I like bikes.

But I would ignore bik.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 28, 2013, 01:10:50 AM
Now Awesome Dan has got other users to bully me. That is it! goodbye MM8BDM and good bye Cutstuff forums  :(
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Tfp BreakDown on April 28, 2013, 01:13:36 AM
Hey mega Don't let them bother you. If they are bullying you either ignore them using the ignore function in the multiplayer options or don't join the server that they are in. You can't just give up on the community and game because of a few shisnos ruining your game.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on April 28, 2013, 01:15:24 AM
But Awsome Dan and the others go into the server i am in just to bully me  :cry:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Colonel ServBot on April 28, 2013, 02:50:56 AM
Quote from: "Megaman94"
But Awsome Dan and the others go into the server i am in just to bully me  :cry:

y'know.
i hate bullies just as much as you or the next guy.
although, i don't play online much, if i ever see you on a server and they're being dicks, i'll stick up for you.
the last thing i want to see is sadness caused from other assholes.

also, i'm not saying that youre lying, but how do you know theyre trying to bully you? any quotes of what they say?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: MEGAMANX123 on April 28, 2013, 04:38:43 AM
you know to be honest i am just going to say don't give up i have been through alo't more than bullying i have been hacked and sometimes abused you wanna know what i did i didn't give up just because someones getting you down doesn't mean you should just throw everything away

don't give up!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hallan Parva on April 28, 2013, 07:08:47 AM
not to hijack this thread but




there's some douche going around by the name of "Lord Damager" who keeps insulting this other "Ricky(numbers)" person
just giving him an extremely hard time when he's done nothing, telling him to "be a good boy" and "behave little Dicky"
you know just general prick stuff


normally I wouldn't say anything, but this has been going on for about a week solid and I'm getting tired of it
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ceridran on April 28, 2013, 01:10:49 PM
Quote from: "SmashBroPlusB"
not to hijack this thread but




there's some douche going around by the name of "Lord Damager" who keeps insulting this other "Ricky(numbers)" person
just giving him an extremely hard time when he's done nothing, telling him to "be a good boy" and "behave little Dicky"
you know just general prick stuff


normally I wouldn't say anything, but this has been going on for about a week solid and I'm getting tired of it

Ho

This srs bsns this time.

Mapache is pretty annoying in general.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: MagnetMan497 on April 28, 2013, 02:43:52 PM
Quote from: "SmashBroPlusB"
not to hijack this thread but




there's some douche going around by the name of "Lord Damager" who keeps insulting this other "Ricky(numbers)" person
just giving him an extremely hard time when he's done nothing, telling him to "be a good boy" and "behave little Dicky"
you know just general prick stuff


normally I wouldn't say anything, but this has been going on for about a week solid and I'm getting tired of it
There's been a huge influx of people being huge jerks lately. Not just to Ricky456, but to a lot of other people. I usually just disconnect, change my username, and then reconnect and ignore. You have to speak up about it. Remember guys, it's just words over the internet. Everyone here (hopefully) has people in their lives that love and care about them. If you're getting sick of people being dicks to you over the internet, just take a break. Don't quit doing something you like because of other people. I'm not saying you need to deal with it -- you shouldn't have to -- but none of the mods are going to ban someone from the master server because they're being a dick, and I know that probably stings.

I've dealt with a lot of bullying before, not just over the internet but in real life, and the best way to handle it is just to ignore. Don't take anything personally. Chances are the bully is just saying the stuff to get a reaction out of you, not because they are actually cruel and want to see you cry. A lot of times bullies have been bullied themselves. Just don't give them what they want. Cyberbullying is a problem, but it's a problem we can all avoid.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: DarkAura on April 28, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
But no one is around to control them, therefore they can still bully others with slim-to-no consequence. Either the admin is never present when these things occur or the admin himself is the one causing the problem (Dan, etc.)
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: CutmanMike on April 28, 2013, 06:16:38 PM
We can't do anything about people being jerks in servers, so you'll have to learn to deal with it... but you can. Change your in game name to something else if you're getting singled out online. Even better, Zandronum has a built in ignore feature! Use it!
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: DarkAura on April 28, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
Sorry, I meant the admin in charge of the server or whoever have RCON...
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: MEGAMANX123 on May 01, 2013, 01:52:20 PM
well the lesson that should be learned here is to not feed the troll and yes to ignore because there's alot of stupid people on the internet who constantly want feedback they like it when you're mad i don't think there's anymore real reasons to post here since i guess it has been cleared up /:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: tsukiyomaru0 on May 01, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Protip: If the server has the tag :: [BE] New York :: or just :: [BE] :: , you can go to "irc.zandronum.com" (you will need a mIRC client. even MIBBIT can do the job), "/join #bestever" and "/query Jenova" (or "Jenova_") and report the troublesome troll. Be sure to have a couple of screenshoots (2 might be more than enough) as proof if they request and to have the server port number (the ~5 digits long number, like 15003). After all, Trolling is an unacceptable behavior within Zandronum community, and Best.Ever. IS a main part of the ZDN community.

Of course, not every troll is all mean or annoying.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: TailsMK4 on May 08, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
As was pointed out by DarkAura, the admin may not even be there at the time. I will offer this to anyone who is experiencing this at my set of servers: If this happens in one of my servers, come talk to me about it. I can put the offender on the banlist if it is serious enough.

Unfortunately, there are people out there that just love to try to bully others. The best thing you can do is just ignore them. The WORST thing you can do is to try to fight them. If you do the latter, they will continue to pester you. Trolls, for the most part, just want a reaction out of you, and they will live off the reactions you give them and will want more. If they find that they do not get much entertainment from you, they will go find someone else. I have a problem like this one with Bikdark, but I pretty much have the situation taken care of on my side.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Knux on May 08, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
I take great pleasure in verbally destroying anyone who disrupts the fun of someone else in the servers for the hell of it. That said, it's just better to use the ignore function. Saves time, makes the game stink less.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: T's Inventions on May 09, 2013, 01:26:37 AM
Hmmmmmm....

Quote from: "Shmeckie"
Why does everyone act like trolls will simply go away if you ignore them? Because they don't. That's why Bik can't come play around Shmeckie's place anymore. No one provoked him, no one bothered him, he just couldn't stand having things he didn't like hosted, and would go on, and on, and on, and on, and get worse the more he was ignored.

"Just ignore them" never really works, especially for most internet trolls. They'll just up the ante until you do listen. Like a little kid bugging their parents; ignore them enough, and they'll yell louder, then start grabbing you, then start jumping up and down, etc.

There are many different ways to deal with bullys and trolls,
however I'd say what you don't want to do is leave the game all because there are a few douche bags out there that don't like you for such P!$$-poor reasons.

B.T.W. One thing that would really help a lot is if someone could tell us how to range-ban I.P. addresses for your own Zandronum servers!
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 20, 2013, 04:49:12 PM
I always telling the other to stop jerking around, would be better if everyone would do that.....
Our Community isnt that Big.
Maybe it would be better to give new players more inviting feelings so they play MM8BDM more often. ( Really )
The more satisfied the players are the more Newcomers will join us.
Arent you Guys questioning yourself why all servers together get to a lowly max playeramount of 20?
Its because you guys Jerk around.
More players are out there beside your own.  You dont need to win with 100% + cheats + telefrags + flaming.
Its a Game that supposed to make FUN ( its not Call of Duty with KD Ratio + Achievements )

Maybe it would be wise to point out at all Bad Mouths here, MM8BD would have had already more than 100 player per day.
We Spare em everytime, they kick, flame, and abuse every button they can so they can enjoy their flamewars.
Its okay to have a decent ping but this dorks here running wildly around are causing exactly this problem.
Just a Shame... I hope some of our members remember/learned about the LAN Seasons.
+ We are 80% the same players on MM8BD so why is this happening???
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 21, 2013, 12:58:30 AM
Just now i left a Server completely filled with these so called Cyberbullies, they arent just a nuissance they pretty much are 20% of the people coming in and out and directly start doing theyr stuff :

Kick innocent players which even didnt say a word + insult disrespectly everyone + press Yes for any vote....

already known players like always "awesome dan" "glatzy" " magickarp" and many more ( Crasgers Server )
i bet the perma Ban list is just exploding with theyr names because they show up again and again and again

Maybe it would be better for all effort that Cutman put into this, to save this Community from this Bullies with more but a Ban.
They keep on doing day for day.

Of Course Experienced Players have a solution for this.
But Unexperienced Players will just quit this game and never will come back.
If you would count the mass of players these dicks are preventing from playing this game....
It is just not right to let em keep doing what they do.
If just 3 of these Dicks would be gone forever, this community would grow so rapidly with new players which follow our guidance + rules.
+ dickheads are getting bored to  ( but not by letting them do what they want )
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rozark on June 21, 2013, 01:12:23 AM
Quote from: "Bokan"
Just now i left a Server completely filled with these so called Cyberbullies, they arent just a nuissance they pretty much are 20% of the people coming in and out and directly start doing theyr stuff :

Kick innocent players which even didnt say a word + insult disrespectly everyone + press Yes for any vote....

already known players like always "awesome dan" "glatzy" " magickarp" and many more ( Crasgers Server )
i bet the perma Ban list is just exploding with theyr names because they show up again and again and again

Maybe it would be better for all effort that Cutman put into this, to save this Community from this Bullies with more but a Ban.
They keep on doing day for day.

Of Course Experienced Players have a solution for this.
But Unexperienced Players will just quit this game and never will come back.
If you would count the mass of players these dicks are preventing from playing this game....
It is just not right to let em keep doing what they do.
If just 3 of these Dicks would be gone forever, this community would grow so rapidly with new players which follow our guidance + rules.
+ dickheads are getting bored to  ( but not by letting them do what they want )

Out of curiosity, are you SURE you're not doing anything to say, piss them off? I'm certain they have their reasons, and if you're part of the problem then I would stop that first before going off on something else.

Yes I'm aware there are bullies in the community, but it wouldn't be helping your case if you're provoking them.

Again, i'm just asking.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 21, 2013, 01:15:50 AM
they made the whole server empty while i posted that

i just came in and said : Gj Guys

i wasnt offending anyone before just watched and acted
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rozark on June 21, 2013, 01:17:42 AM
Quote from: "Bokan"
they made the whole server empty while i posted that

It has at least 6 players; a server crash occurred.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 21, 2013, 01:20:04 AM
magickarp made the server crash several times  "on purpose"

ricky told me later it was magiskarps doing (defending himself : / )

magic even announced a coming crash "just to get a little laugh"

Well i just wanna help this community
I just see the hard work for this game + the less players
i mean cmon its Megaman  many fans are out there
its not some Diablo 3 or God of War
Its much more than this
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Mendez on June 21, 2013, 01:41:54 AM
Quote from: "Bokan"
already known players like always "awesome dan" "glatzy" " magickarp" and many more ( Crasgers Server )
i bet the perma Ban list is just exploding with theyr names because they show up again and again and again

Maybe it would be better for all effort that Cutman put into this, to save this Community from this Bullies with more but a Ban.
They keep on doing day for day.

If just 3 of these Dicks would be gone forever, this community would grow so rapidly with new players which follow our guidance + rules.
I told Glazty about your claims, and this is how the conversation went.
(click to show/hide)
In short, you're gonna have to compile some evidence before you throw out such a harsh claim.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 21, 2013, 01:47:49 AM
well "glatzy´s" part in there was just insulting others ( youre all faggots, etc why even start like that ) ( would be better not to barf out any word you get )
the main part would be more of "Magickarp" ( server troubles + innocent kick )
and i dont even need to talk about mr. Awesome Dan...
Well since were all Strangers to each other... no words really...
and i am a guy...

And i am so sry i forgot to make an Screenshot which will happen from now on.
and i bet it wouldnt take a week to get an opening for that...

I dont wanna start trouble here i just wanna end it...
if glatzy feels offended now,
i am sorry if he solitarily jumped in for us, but he could have told me what he really wanted to say and to whom
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Mendez on June 21, 2013, 02:08:15 AM
Our conversation continued.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bokan on June 21, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
well it would be better if he would write it in here xD
because hes just more and more cute like that ( welp etc (such a pro))
+already played several times with him
he just dont remember my name
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Jman on June 26, 2013, 03:31:48 AM
There are ALWAYS negative people like that on the internet, regardless of where you are. But don't let that get in the way of you having fun in a game. Simply ignore the person causing the problem, that's all I can tell you.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: MEGAMANX123 on July 01, 2013, 01:26:18 AM
well at least we don't have swag and yolo spammers those people  piss me off but anyways im suprised this conversation continues there just dumb people they think about nothing but themselves and they constantly try to get rage out of you cause they like it yet again its what happens [pro tip use ignore button in options multiplayer]
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: ZeStopper on July 03, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
I just act cool and stuff, despite me being younger than most people (I'm a teen). People try to say something like "leave," I just shut up and play, it works like a charm!
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Spec on August 11, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
Quote from: "Megaman94"
But Awsome Dan and the others go into the server i am in just to bully me  :cry:
Dont feel bad. Just trying to help you. Whats your name on MM8BDM? I Could help.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on August 11, 2013, 04:17:52 AM
Quote from: "Spec"
Quote from: "Megaman94"
But Awsome Dan and the others go into the server i am in just to bully me  :cry:
Dont feel bad. Just trying to help you. Whats your name on MM8BDM? I Could help.

He stopped bulling me. My name in MM8BDM is Super Fighting Robot.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: *Alice on August 13, 2013, 01:29:12 AM
*sigh*
There are two main issues.
1: (some) New people acting like little children and kicking people for "no reason".
2: (some) Long-time members basically annoying/trolling/bullying people because they are new, have a "wrong" opinion or just for fun.

While I find the first type somewhat excusable in a way, the second one is just inacceptable.

Just something I kind of wanted to say.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: cybersavior on August 14, 2013, 03:58:37 PM
Here is some online gaming advice

- Be more picky of the servers you join (especially if admin is on a power trip)

- Don't reply, no-one gets the last word in an online altercation
It will go on foreve. Everyone wants to have the last word,  and because of that, no-one will.

- don't stir the pot (golden rule comes to mind "do unto others. .....")

- know the server rules and be careful with cheaping, camping and betrayals
(If you accidentally team kill,  Message saying sorry, if you get team killed assume it was an accident, don't get even

- ignore the user with the Zandronum function. Make sure you send them a message first
"Welcome to my ignore list"

- Rename your Avatar, only consider this if the user is recruiting others to harass you after being zandronum ignored
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on August 14, 2013, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: "cybersavior"
Here is some online gaming advice

- Be more picky of the servers you join (especially if admin is on a power trip)

- Don't reply, no-one gets the last word in an online altercation
It will go on foreve. Everyone wants to have the last word,  and because of that, no-one will.

- don't stir the pot (golden rule comes to mind "do unto others. .....")

- know the server rules and be careful with cheaping, camping and betrayals
(If you accidentally team kill,  Message saying sorry, if you get team killed assume it was an accident, don't get even

- ignore the user with the Zandronum function. Make sure you send them a message first
"Welcome to my ignore list"

- Rename your Avatar, only consider this if the user is recruiting others to harass you after being zandronum ignored

I did rename my avatar. That is why I am Megaman94 in the forums, and Super Fighting Robot in the servers.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: fortegigasgospel on August 14, 2013, 06:04:51 PM
Its easy to figure out who people are by the way they act (if they talk) and even easier when those people like to keep their "8BDM Profile" up to date on the topic.
Which you did, so you publicly announced you changed your name.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ceridran on August 14, 2013, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: "cybersavior"
"Welcome to my ignore list"

No, don't announce that you're ignoring them. Not all the time.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 21, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
It's the stuff that just ruins an otherwise great community. I don't give much of a damn about bullies or trolls, but since there's an ignore function, I don't want to use it, because I want to know what other stupid thing they are going to say is (directed at me or otherwise). Isn't it weird of me to do that?

By the way Megaman94, what's your in-game-name now?

And something else:
Quote from: "Bokan"
Just now i left a Server completely filled with these so called Cyberbullies, they arent just a nuissance they pretty much are 20% of the people coming in and out and directly start doing theyr stuff :

Kick innocent players which even didnt say a word + insult disrespectly everyone + press Yes for any vote....

already known players like always "awesome dan" "glatzy" " magickarp" and many more ( Crasgers Server )
i bet the perma Ban list is just exploding with theyr names because they show up again and again and again

Maybe it would be better for all effort that Cutman put into this, to save this Community from this Bullies with more but a Ban.
They keep on doing day for day.
Sorry for not banning those guys, anyway, when my server went down, those guys disappeared.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on August 22, 2013, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
By the way Megaman94, what's your in-game-name now?

I am Super Fighting Robot in the game
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 24, 2013, 04:58:40 AM
Quote
already known players like always "awesome dan" "glatzy" " magickarp" and many more ( Crasgers Server )
I bet the perma Ban list is just exploding with their names because they show up again and again and again
My server is a magnet!
Bikdark just keeps coming back with different names, I think he may have disguised as those players to ruin their names...
Banned his IP from the server's new version for 1000 DAYS!
Strange that he only comes to my server and mine alone... he never set foot in Saxton servers.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: *Alice on August 24, 2013, 10:11:59 AM
That is because Bikdark hates Saxton Hale with a burning passion.
Honestly, Bikdark is not all that bad. You can get used to him.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 24, 2013, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: "*Alice"
That is because Bikdark hates Saxton Hale with a burning passion.
Honestly, Bikdark is not all that bad. You can get used to him.
"Ew it's Alice"
How mature of those people I don't feel like mentioning the names of. Why did using Linux become a crime, community?

If that's so I'm like Saxton Hale to him.
I mean really, he comes with aliases specifically on MY server to annoy the players into submission and leaving. ONLY on my server, and if I'm there. He starts criticizing the way I run my servers. Had to be done, I mean, if he doesn't like the place, then why stay, right?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: The Killer Nacho on August 24, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
I don't think he tries to specifically come on your server. It might be easy to assume that because you're in your server more than others' servers. He made logical arguments that I actually supported, but I will agree that the way he presents his arguments makes them seem weaker. He just got mad that the majority of the server wanted 2 teams and you wanted 4. He couldn't leave because the only other thing that was up at the time was Vanilla, which gets relatively boring fairly quickly. He wasn't trying to get people to leave, he was trying to make a stand for what he believed in. Again, presentation is his weakest flaw (so I'm not saying he's perfect), but it's unfair to say he has some sort of illogical bias against you.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 24, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
Quote from: "The Killer Nacho"
I don't think he tries to specifically come on your server. It might be easy to assume that because you're in your server more than others' servers. He made logical arguments that I actually supported, but I will agree that the way he presents his arguments makes them seem weaker. He just got mad that the majority of the server wanted 2 teams and you wanted 4. He couldn't leave because the only other thing that was up at the time was Vanilla, which gets relatively boring fairly quickly. He wasn't trying to get people to leave, he was trying to make a stand for what he believed in. Again, presentation is his weakest flaw (so I'm not saying he's perfect), but it's unfair to say he has some sort of illogical bias against you.

Good enough. He is right, but the way he said it was wrong. But really, he was annoying before everyone started complaining about the 2 teams thing. Even if the problem was solved, he just came back to tell us he was leaving to "[sic] go fap to rule 34"

I don't think reasoning works with Bikdark, though. He seems to love to disagree with anyone and just complain about everything.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gumballtoid on August 24, 2013, 04:50:14 PM
In the many arguments I've seen Bikdark engaged in, his reasoning is usually spot-on, but the delivery hurts his argument more than it helps. Most come to see this as him being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole because of that, and since he's usually arguing with the host of the server, he earns himself a nice shiny ban. It's his own damn fault.

Want proof? Bikdark used to come into Shmeckie's KY classes server and harp on him for not hosting YD classes. He started insulting Shmeckie and his server when Shmeckie would have none of it, and earned himself yet another nice shiny ban. He later blamed Shmeckie for the whole thing.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Tengu on August 24, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
The reason Bikdark gets such huge rises out of people is that a lot of the time when he argues, he's right about something. But he continues to rub the fact that he's right in your face until you get pissed off about it.

If you wanna get Bik annoyed, just act really stupid... Where's that old skype log.. Ah! There it is.


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Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Laggy Blazko on August 24, 2013, 06:01:13 PM
Oh god, that's gold!

I'm used to people like Bik but I understand a lot of people isn't. So yeah, just ban him everytime he's being annoying. And I you want, save a screenshot everytime it happens and maybe you can get him banned from the master server for ban evading... I think.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 25, 2013, 02:56:15 AM
Quote from: "Gumballtoid"
In the many arguments I've seen Bikdark engaged in, his reasoning is usually spot-on, but the delivery hurts his argument more than it helps. Most come to see this as him being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole because of that, and since he's usually arguing with the host of the server, he earns himself a nice shiny ban. It's his own damn fault.

Want proof? Bikdark used to come into Shmeckie's KY classes server and harp on him for not hosting YD classes. He started insulting Shmeckie and his server when Shmeckie would have none of it, and earned himself yet another nice shiny ban. He later blamed Shmeckie for the whole thing.

So is its his own fault that he acted wrongly, but it's my fault as well for not interpreting his actions hard enough and just banning him right then and there, when it was too much for me to handle?

I did fulfill the request though, less chaotic than what the 4 teams TLMS had. But everyone had no complaints from that point onward.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: WheelieCarbonate on August 25, 2013, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: "Tengu"
If you wanna get Bik annoyed, just act really stupid.
or talk about critical hits heahheahea
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Jakeinator on August 25, 2013, 10:41:22 PM
One time Bik messed with me it was about some fake ass law that minors couldn't be on the internet. He threatened that he'd find my IP and get my parents arrested for not following that fake law. So It made me despise his guts and leave the server i otherwise would have enjoyed if he was not on.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 25, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: "Jakeinator"
One time Bik messed with me it was about some fake ass law that minors couldn't be on the internet. He threatened that he'd find my IP and get my parents arrested for not following that fake law. So It made me despise his guts and leave the server i otherwise would have enjoyed if he was not on.

Bik has a problem with new players...
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: deeyodubljee on August 25, 2013, 11:56:19 PM
Quote from: "Jakeinator"
One time Bik messed with me it was about some fake ass law that minors couldn't be on the internet. He threatened that he'd find my IP and get my parents arrested for not following that fake law. So It made me despise his guts and leave the server i otherwise would have enjoyed if he was not on.
Are you talking about COPPA? last I checked that's a real thing
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 26, 2013, 12:43:16 AM
Quote from: "deeyodubljee"
Quote from: "Jakeinator"
One time Bik messed with me it was about some fake ass law that minors couldn't be on the internet. He threatened that he'd find my IP and get my parents arrested for not following that fake law. So It made me despise his guts and leave the server i otherwise would have enjoyed if he was not on.
Are you talking about COPPA? last I checked that's a real thing

Last I checked it depends on certain websites. Cutstuff is probably not one of them.
And I'm pretty sure Bik did it in game and he was referring to the internet as a whole.

"The act, effective April 21, 2000, applies to the online collection of personal information by persons or entities under U.S. jurisdiction from children under 13 years of age. It details what a website operator must include in a privacy policy, when and how to seek verifiable consent from a parent or guardian, and what responsibilities an operator has to protect children's privacy and safety online including restrictions on the marketing to those under 13. While children under 13 can legally give out personal information with their parents' permission, many websites altogether disallow underage children from using their services due to the amount of work involved."
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: deeyodubljee on August 26, 2013, 02:26:44 AM
faq.php#f0r7 (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/faq.php#f0r7)
Right there
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on August 27, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: "deeyodubljee"
http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/faq.php#f0r7
Right there

Okay then, what's this proving?
Cutstuff doesn't have anything about asking for permission.

As I edited the post above, I think Bik meant the internet in general, not just Cutstuff or the game. The law doesn't even apply to games that require an internet connection.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: deeyodubljee on August 29, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
There's a terms and condition page people rarely read upon registration by the way.

COPPA only applies to those under 13 years of age. Apparently, any site that can/does collect personal information cannot legally allow users under 13 years of age to sign up/be a member of their board/social network/whatever without parental consent. I guess Bikdark just felt like making Jakeinator mad because (technically) a law was broken.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Jman on September 15, 2013, 04:46:07 PM
It doesn't even matter anyway, since Bik is a minor too. Huehuehue.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on September 21, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
Oh the hypocrisy...
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 02:43:28 AM
Due to a recent event involving cyber bulling from a fellow member of the Cutstuff Community, I will not be making anymore maps and I might leave Cutstuff and MM8BDM forever :(
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 05, 2014, 03:50:20 AM
For those wondering, I hosted his maps under the Best Maps Ever server series. I actually hosted your maps 3 times already, fyi.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 04:51:43 AM
I am making sure nobody can download them on Doomseeker ever again.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 05, 2014, 05:23:10 AM
I never even said anything bad about them, I just hosted them. If you don't want people to give advice for maps or play on them, then don't post them. :/
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: "Gummywormz"
I never even said anything bad about them, I just hosted them. If you don't want people to give advice for maps or play on them, then don't post them. :/

You put them in a "Best Ever" server which is for horrible maps. I don't want people to insult my maps like you did just give advice on how to improve them.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 05, 2014, 05:37:34 AM
Yes, Best Maps Ever is for horrible maps, but I usually just host whatever under that name anyway. I mean, the last pack I hosted was the Holiday 2013 pack mainly because no one had hosted it up to that point. It just turned out, erm, *not up to quality*. Hosting them does not mean insulting them, and I would be happy to give you some advice if you wouldn't take it so badly. :/
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 06:21:10 AM
I guess...
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ivory on January 05, 2014, 07:09:22 AM
If you are going to release maps, then people will host them with what they want. You don't have any sort of "permission" nor ability to deny this.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Knux on January 05, 2014, 07:37:58 AM
What's the point of making maps if you'll want to have only certain people playing them? That's highly counter productive.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 07:41:00 AM
Because people will make fun of them. I already has 1 member say how bad the maps were, and they wouldn't stop teasing me about it.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 05, 2014, 07:48:51 AM
If they're bad and you know they're bad, don't release them and improve them. Find some people who will give legit criticism and grow as a mapper.

I'll review your maps soon, I'm actually not fantastic at it but I'll point out the general no-no's and you can go from there.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 05, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
ok
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 05, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: "Megaman94"
Due to a recent event involving cyber bulling from a fellow member of the Cutstuff Community, I will not be making anymore maps and I might leave Cutstuff and MM8BDM forever :(
Sheesh. Hosting your maps and saying they are bad is Cyber Bullying?
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, you know. Mappers NEED constant criticism. I'm a mapper and I can tell you the countless times someone said "These maps suck arse.". I still made more maps though, in fact, I'm STILL making maps. If you look at the maps I made, they start to look fairly decent the further you go.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 06, 2014, 12:54:11 AM
General insults about maps should be taken to mind as ways to make it better.

Also, I laughed my arse off when I heard AwesomeDan and LordDamager get mentioned. Let me explain.

AwesomeDan is sorta my rival and we say each other suck at the game and have big egos whenever we see each other in the same server. Meanwhile, LD has been trolling and hating every time I see him, being a total dick. However, I don't mind seeing hate since half the time it ends up being pretty damn funny, even in the moments I'm being hated.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 06, 2014, 12:58:55 AM
Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
Quote from: "Megaman94"
Due to a recent event involving cyber bulling from a fellow member of the Cutstuff Community, I will not be making anymore maps and I might leave Cutstuff and MM8BDM forever :(
Sheesh. Hosting your maps and saying they are bad is Cyber Bullying?
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, you know. Mappers NEED constant criticism. I'm a mapper and I can tell you the countless times someone said "These maps suck arse.". I still made more maps though, in fact, I'm STILL making maps. If you look at the maps I made, they start to look fairly decent the further you go.

If someone thinks my maps are horrible then why would they host them?
to make fun of them of course....
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 01:13:28 AM
It was just one guy, or a few people.
Besides Gummywormz already explained to you that he didn't insult it. He merely put a server up with the maps.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 06, 2014, 01:15:00 AM
Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
It was just one guy.
But now it has been 5 people who have bullied me since I joined this site.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 01:17:54 AM
5 people is not a lot. And a few of those people are already gone. Let it go, man. You're 19 years old (you said so earlier in this topic). You need to learn how to cope.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 06, 2014, 01:19:35 AM
Again, I never even said anything in the server. I just hosted them. I even gave a proper wall of text review for them. :/
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 01:22:17 AM
Megaman94 seems to not know the difference between an "honest opinion" and "bullying"
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 06, 2014, 01:27:17 AM
Just stop! ok!?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 01:34:28 AM
Um, to make it clearer for everyone... who should stop, exactly?

Me or Gummywormz?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 06, 2014, 01:35:10 AM
Both of you
If gummywormz wanted to tell me what was wrong with my maps he could of posted it instead of hosting it so others can make fun of it
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 01:40:13 AM
Okay some people just don't like it, and I guess they say that "it's crap" or "whoever made this sucks"
that's bullying. Gummywormz already put the server down. He even made an honest block of text review as he said earlier. I'm not siding with everyone who has criticized your maps, only Gummywormz seeing as you're still angry at him even though he tried to make amends already.

EDIT: Oh he has a server up and running right now.
Anyways, gummywormz isn't a bad guy. But other people are. You need to know who you can and cannot trust around here. Seeing as the community seems to be at a downwards spiral as of the moment.

Just try not to make this a big issue.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 06, 2014, 01:58:31 AM
Yes, you gotta know whom to trust. As such, I should make a list of people to never trust.

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Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 02:10:37 AM
I think we need a more comprehensive list, why not add a WIKI page!

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Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Korby on January 06, 2014, 03:58:59 AM
I just love that every problem people have in this topic could be solved with the ignore command.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Kapus on January 06, 2014, 04:08:34 AM
Quote from: "OtakuAlex"
Yes, you gotta know whom to trust. As such, I should make a list of people to never trust.
2. New players
Well, this has to be about the worst mentality I've ever seen. If you treat new people with distrust and suspicion, how can they feel welcome?

Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
7. Anyone with the name 'Player'. (Player, Player, Player, Player and of course let's not forget Player) (But of course, let's not jump to conclusions, I've met some really nice 'Player' guys here and there)
There are a lot of random folks who show up with the name "Player" because they are new and haven't figured out how to set names yet.

Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
9. Anyone on the servers who doesn't have a Forum account.
Why? There are a ton of fun people out there who play the game without participating in the community, and some veteran players took a long time to join the forum. A disinterest in the community doesn't imply malice or anything.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Emmanuelf06 on January 06, 2014, 04:47:18 AM
Quote from: "Kapus"
Quote from: "OtakuAlex"
Yes, you gotta know whom to trust. As such, I should make a list of people to never trust.
2. New players
Well, this has to be about the worst mentality I've ever seen. If you treat new people with distrust and suspicion, how can they feel welcome?

Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
7. Anyone with the name 'Player'. (Player, Player, Player, Player and of course let's not forget Player) (But of course, let's not jump to conclusions, I've met some really nice 'Player' guys here and there)
There are a lot of random folks who show up with the name "Player" because they are new and haven't figured out how to set names yet.

Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
9. Anyone on the servers who doesn't have a Forum account.
Why? There are a ton of fun people out there who play the game without participating in the community, and some veteran players took a long time to join the forum. A disinterest in the community doesn't imply malice or anything.

And now You have noticed that Kapus? It's since a while, things are like that....

When there is some new "players" who want play, i try to help them if they need and i dont try to frag them too easily (if they are very "low"), to be sure They wont be degusted and leave the game....everybody can learn and become better, be tolerant and psychologie is important to make a great community, if not, it can become a sect.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 06, 2014, 08:16:32 AM
About the new players thing...
it's just that we don't know these people well enough to trust.
'Do not Trust' is different from 'Do not talk to or ignore these', or 'Shun them from the community'.
We need to know them better. So most of the types of players mentioned in the list have exceptions. It's all a matter of getting to know each other here so we can have a fun time.

Quote from: "Kapus"
There are a lot of random folks who show up with the name "Player" because they are new and haven't figured out how to set names yet.
That one about the "Players" was a joke.
But I have stumbled upon a few "Player" guys here and there who were mean too. I don't like the ignore function. There's just something wrong I find in being willfully ignorant. It's a principles thing.
Quote from: "Kapus"
Why? There are a ton of fun people out there who play the game without participating in the community, and some veteran players took a long time to join the forum. A disinterest in the community doesn't imply malice or anything.
You have a point there. But I just find that most if not all the trolls here don't have forum accounts, or barely use them.

EDIT: Lists do not work, apparently as people have clashing opinions on others. We need some sort of Turing Test to identify who is a "bully" or "troll" and who isn't.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: CDRom11_2007 on January 24, 2014, 02:42:12 AM
Personally, I see people who came from Doom servers are candidates for "Ignore". Many of the Doom players I've met so far won't stop talking about how MM8BDM sucks balls and, if I hear another one start disrespectfully talk to another girl of this community, I swear, I'm gonna lose it. Let's just say that, just because I don't curse doesn't mean I'm not afraid of making people go 'missing'
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 24, 2014, 03:32:06 AM
Quote from: "CDRom11_2007"
Personally, I see people who came from Doom servers are candidates for "Ignore". Many of the Doom players I've met so far won't stop talking about how MM8BDM sucks balls and, if I hear another one start disrespectfully talk to another girl of this community, I swear, I'm gonna lose it. Let's just say that, just because I don't curse doesn't mean I'm not afraid of making people go 'missing'

There are nice people whom come from the Doom community, too. I play Doom, Crasger plays Doom, a user named FireFox and another named Phoenix also seem like nice guys and I've seen them in both Doom and MM8BDM servers. It's just that some make it obvious that they are in that group of 8BDM haters from Doom by complaining about 8BDM. Most Doom players don't directly say they play Doom when in MM8BDM unless asked if they do.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: LordDamager on January 24, 2014, 09:20:16 PM
Hai guiz. i suppose i should explain my behavior correct?

Regarding SH++, i can appreciate its going for something new or trying to. but its just ridiculously unbalenced in some aspects, and a good modder would have fixed it by now. i can state various things over in its own respective thread at another point in time.

As for the ricky event, he kept getting himself into an argument i had with someone else. an argument he didnt belong in. kinda pissed me off. would you prefer if i got in all your arguments?

as for lordfaggot, yes its trolly and meant more to be fun rather then a dick. i know alot of ya hate me, hell, i know alot of you would hate me even if i was nicer. i remember wallus going spastic at me for being a doomer, telling me to leave basically every chance he got. but all that is in the past.

I aint the douchebag ya'll like to make me to be. i aint out for no wars or whatever. Yes sometimes im a douche, and i need to control it. But honestly, im more in it for lols then to troll. i just use the faggot alias as a way to troll trolls. If you wear insults with pride, then you cant be insulted :p.

But on a serious note, i apologize for offending the cutstuff community, and i will work on my behavior.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rui on January 24, 2014, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: "LordDamager"
i just use the faggot alias as a way to troll trolls. If you wear insults with pride, then you cant be insulted :p

ok but fyi if youre straight you shouldn't even be using "f*ggot" cus 1) youre reinforcing heteronormativity (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexuality/g/heteronormative.htm) and 2) its a slur used against lgbtqia people to discriminate and cause harm to them i mean thats pretty obvious.


so

dont do that (https://31.media.tumblr.com/ea14b566259ad040c94ced1485243602/tumblr_inline_mzxdxorLf81s8jg4t.gif)
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Gummywormz on January 24, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
You forgot the part where you got mad at me for contributing to unholy classes then kicking me from the server for no reason.

Or the time in the CSCC server where you were trolling then started changing names to get around your mute.

Or deliberately making SH++ with YD Classes a thing against the modder's wishes out of spite.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 25, 2014, 12:14:56 AM
Quote from: "OtakuAlex"
Crasger plays Doom

Yes, I do. To be exact, I played MM8BDM first, and saw that it ran on Doom. I got curious, then got Freedoom, which disappointed me. Then I decided... fuck it let's play the REAL Doom!
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: CDRom11_2007 on January 26, 2014, 04:07:49 AM
Quote from: "CDRom11_2007"
I see people who came from Doom servers are candidates for "Ignore".
I should probably explain my responce some more. I said 'candidates' for a reason. All I was asking was to be careful around people straight from Doom, not just to ignore them as you see them. Oh, and, I don't know how this quote thing works so my quotingfrom my previous comment may come out weird.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 26, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: "Rui-"
Quote from: "LordDamager"
i just use the faggot alias as a way to troll trolls. If you wear insults with pride, then you cant be insulted :p

ok but fyi if youre straight you shouldn't even be using "f*ggot" cus 1) youre reinforcing heteronormativity (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexuality/g/heteronormative.htm) and 2) its a slur used against lgbtqia people to discriminate and cause harm to them i mean thats pretty obvious.


so

dont do that (https://31.media.tumblr.com/ea14b566259ad040c94ced1485243602/tumblr_inline_mzxdxorLf81s8jg4t.gif)

I am bisexual, and I HATE when people use that word.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: LordDamager on January 26, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
Fair enough. sorry. ill have to think of another name wont i?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 26, 2014, 08:20:44 PM
I love how people are ignoring the fact that faggot means bundle of sticks.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ivory on January 26, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
I thought the bundle of sticks meaning was pronounced differently. Not that you can tell pronunciation from text.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 26, 2014, 08:43:27 PM
Either way, the whole homosexual definition is slang and isn't the true definition. Similar to how a good number of Japanese terms took on different definitions in the west.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rui on January 26, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
yes but it's more than very often used with negative context and implication, especially when used by straight people
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Megaman94 on January 26, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: "Rui-"
yes but it's more than very often used with negative context and implication, especially when used by straight people

Yes, and I was called that in high school  :cry:
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 28, 2014, 12:35:33 AM
Yet people use this and other words online all the time, regardless of meanings or who it is. Back when I was a noob (for a few months, I'd say) with my first dumb online name, some people used to call me "Fags" a lot.

Point being what difference would it make if one person stopped using the word when others are still gonna use it regardless?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ivory on January 28, 2014, 12:41:26 AM
Makes you a better person than all those other people who continue to use it, no? Not going down to their level. Holding your head up high, taking pride in being a better person.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 28, 2014, 01:24:31 AM
Well, that is true, but in this case, LD's referring to himself as the insult in particular while his trolling most of the time has nothing to do with referencing the concept of one other's sexuality (correct me if I'm wrong).

Don't get me wrong, I respect players as well as their opinions on things, but a couple kinds of people urk me most of the time when it comes to it: people with no appreciation for the respect you give them and people who, despite wanting peace with you, continue to cause trouble with you and other people. Tbh, I've did my share of trolling because of these things regardless (but usually only at a certain someone in particular). Despite this, I don't look for enemies, but I sometimes wonder if enemies like to find me. >_>
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Rui on January 28, 2014, 01:56:44 AM
Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
Point being what difference would it make if one person stopped using the word when others are still gonna use it regardless?

Speaking from experience, a lot.

Along with what Ivory said, it's also a feeling of relief knowing that there is one less person out there who is harmful towards people in the lgbtqia+ spectrum.

Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
Well, that is true, but in this case, LD's referring to himself as the insult in particular while his trolling most of the time has nothing to do with referencing the concept of one other's sexuality (correct me if I'm wrong).

If anything, it adds on to the harm being done. It creates an anxious and toxic atmosphere which induces a bit of fear to those who are not straight (and believe me, we certainly do have players who are not straight, and I'm certain there are lgbtqia+ players in every other community you go to). As I said, it reenforces heteronormativity, which is the assumption of heterosexuality being seen as the norm and any other orientation as odd.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 28, 2014, 02:00:17 AM
Oh, got it. Sorry for not understanding that.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on January 28, 2014, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: "Megaman94"
Yes, and I was called that in high school  :cry:

And you LET them? Punch them in the nuts, and let's see who'll be the fag.
Think that you're doing the LGBT a favor by offing those guys' balls. Also no one will bother you in the end.

Just get them into a dark alleyway with a pair of scissors, some alcohol and a plastic bag to keep your new prize in.




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Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Azure Sky on January 30, 2014, 05:38:38 AM
I remember being called "Assure" a lot. Funny thing is, it's not an insult because assure is a word hahaha
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: LordDamager on January 31, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
I might be an asshole when i troll, but i generally do keep myself at a limit, though it may not seem like it, and ill be glad to get rid of the lordfaggot alias if it indeed does offend others sexually.

I try not to troll on the subject of sexual preferences because i believe in "Be who you are, not for who others want you to be". Besides, alot of my friends are homosexual, so tbh, i have nothing against them nor they're kind, nor would i go out of my way to insult/troll them for that reason alone, hell, i'd encourage them to be with whoever they are with.

Another subject i wont even dare mock is death. Thats for the lowest of all trolls and idiots. But regardless, yes ill figure out another alias or just can it all together, but i honestly dont mean to offend homosexuals when i use that term as it was meant more to insult myself purely. Sorry for bringing that highschool memory up for you, megaman94..
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 31, 2014, 04:24:04 PM
This may or may not be the appropriate place to ask this, but can there somehow be such thing as abusing the ignore function?

The thing is this someone I brought up (not giving names considering how many times this name's been mentioned) that's been giving me a hard time has constantly used the ignore function on me for stupid things. Whether he thinks I'm lying about something or I tell him what he does to tick people off or what a jerk he's been when he clearly is/has been one. He calls ME the bully, he tells me I'm ruining HIS day, yet he's the one that's been the pain in the arse even since back when I started (although I've noticed he's probably been around before that).

Edit: Well, there was a time or three that I was legitly ignored by him, but other than that, all it is is ignored, ignored, ignoring, ignoring, ignoring, ignored, ignored, ignored, IGNORED. Yet he's been told to use the ignore function if someone got on his nerves. :I
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Korby on January 31, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
just use the ignore command?
if someone is pestering you through messages in game, literally ignoring them will solve the problem.

You could also just disable chat.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 31, 2014, 05:37:37 PM
*sigh* I said HE LITERALLY ABUSES IT ON ME WITHOUT ANY LEGIT REASON. Every little thing I say about him he ignores me for and it's stupid. He does things wrong and ignores me whenever I bring up any of them because he's been a jerk to people before and he should know so.

I understand using It when people get out-of-hand, but using it when someone says something little that you don't like is kinda pathetic.
Title: either way theres not rly much we can do
Post by: Rui on January 31, 2014, 06:05:11 PM
could you be a bit more specific on what you say to upset said person or what the person says to cause irritation?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Tengu on January 31, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
It's like The Legend of Lautaro all over again.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Korby on January 31, 2014, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
*sigh* I said HE LITERALLY ABUSES IT ON ME WITHOUT ANY LEGIT REASON. Every little thing I say about him he ignores me for and it's stupid. He does things wrong and ignores me whenever I bring up any of them because he's been a jerk to people before and he should know so.

I understand using It when people get out-of-hand, but using it when someone says something little that you don't like is kinda pathetic.

I don't think you quite understood what I meant, so I'll try and explain it better.

If he's just ignoring you, whether or not it's using the command, then why does that matter? Why does it bother you so much that someone ignores you? Should everyone hear what you have to say? If you don't like him bothering you through text, just use the ignore command on him. I absolutely guarantee that you won't be bothered by him ignoring you or not.

I'm not sure why you're bothered by someone ignoring you. If he's ignoring you for you saying stuff about him, why not....not say stuff about him? If he's being a jerk, just call up a vote kick. If that doesn't work, just ignore him. It's not really that hard.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Dr. Crasger on February 01, 2014, 01:19:54 AM
Lemme guess who this ignorer guy is...
Is it Bikdark, LD or AwesomeDan?

If it's not those three... is it: Megaman/Protoman/Bass/Neo Megaman (He's all the same guy)?
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on February 01, 2014, 02:18:56 AM
Quote from: "Korby"
Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
*sigh* I said HE LITERALLY ABUSES IT ON ME WITHOUT ANY LEGIT REASON. Every little thing I say about him he ignores me for and it's stupid. He does things wrong and ignores me whenever I bring up any of them because he's been a jerk to people before and he should know so.

I understand using It when people get out-of-hand, but using it when someone says something little that you don't like is kinda pathetic.

I don't think you quite understood what I meant, so I'll try and explain it better.

If he's just ignoring you, whether or not it's using the command, then why does that matter? Why does it bother you so much that someone ignores you? Should everyone hear what you have to say? If you don't like him bothering you through text, just use the ignore command on him. I absolutely guarantee that you won't be bothered by him ignoring you or not.

I'm not sure why you're bothered by someone ignoring you. If he's ignoring you for you saying stuff about him, why not....not say stuff about him? If he's being a jerk, just call up a vote kick. If that doesn't work, just ignore him. It's not really that hard.

With this and the fact that it was just another Danny issue people don't want to hear, I withdraw my compliant in exchange for something else:

It's gotten on my nerves as of recently that someone's been giving someone a hard time almost every time they're in the same server. I'll give you a hint: the one that calls Doom "Otaku's wet dream". The guy, probably along with others, using his past failed projects against him constantly (specifically a certain class pack). Otaku himself doesn't have a problem with it (in a sense), but I always end up in the server when this crap goes on and it's getting on my nerves.

(Inb4 suggests ignore) For the record, I don't believe that ignoring things will make them go away. Just saying.
Title: DONT DRAG ME BRO
Post by: Bikdark on February 01, 2014, 02:42:11 AM
Quote from: "Dr. Crasger"
Bikdark, LD or AwesomeDan?
Excuse me? :^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^)

It is VERY disrespectful to call people out like this, especially in an area that is supposed to be entirely separate from where the incident took place. You don't have the right to bully me or anyone else just because someone made you mad.
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Title: FINE I WON'T DRAG YOU. STILL WANT THAT WAR THOUGH.
Post by: Mendez on February 01, 2014, 03:02:41 AM
I would say leave names out of this unless you can CONFIRM without a doubt who is doing the cyberbullying. While Bik has had an history of trolling, it doesn't mean he did it this time. That's prejudice, and that's no gooood.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Hunter Frags on February 01, 2014, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
It's gotten on my nerves as of recently that someone's been giving someone a hard time almost every time they're in the same server. I'll give you a hint: the one that calls Doom "Otaku's wet dream". The guy, probably along with others, using his past failed projects against him constantly (specifically a certain class pack). Otaku himself doesn't have a problem with it (in a sense), but I always end up in the server when this crap goes on and it's getting on my nerves.

(Inb4 suggests ignore) For the record, I don't believe that ignoring things will make them go away. Just saying.

Lemme rephrase that better: There's been a series of arguments going on within the past while between Otaku Alex, SuperJustinBros, and Braixen about stuff I'm not gonna waste time with. While I'd care less what their problem is, they had better sense to take their issues to somewhere private instead of frustrating the other people in said server (usually a ++ server) with it.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: OtakuAlex on February 01, 2014, 04:14:08 AM
Braixen comes to the server and I already know he's gonna bitch about something since that's all he ever does in there. I have been usually the one to start recently, but I'd much rather have him insult me than hear is blind and ignorant complaints about ++. In a sense, I'm trying to keep him distracted from what he wanted to say about the mod. And if anyone thinks he isn't gonna start complaining, they really need to see his past behaviour.

While I am annoyed by my old class pack since it was such a failure, I would gladly have people insult me and my work than watch them insult something that in no way deserves such hatred.

And I'm not even trying to sound like the good guy, I am just telling my point of view and how I have been doing things.

What annoys me, though, is that Braixen has managed to make people believe what he believes and act like he acts. I don't know how he does that, but it's pretty frightening to say the least.
Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Bikdark on February 01, 2014, 05:35:53 AM
Quote from: "OtakuAlex"
Braixen comes to the server and I already know he's gonna bitch about something since that's all he ever does in there
Seriously you're going into a thread that's pretty much anti-"cyberbullying" but you do this shit? You're no better than he is.
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Title: Re: Cyberbullies
Post by: Ivory on February 01, 2014, 08:46:33 AM
Yeah, this topic is getting completely out of hand. I kept meaning to lock it once it died down, but I always forget to do that and then someone revives it and the whole situation starts over.

But seeing how heated it is getting in here, I'm just going to close this now.