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Title: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Dr. Freeman on August 28, 2013, 04:50:39 PM
hey
do you hate your 3d slider on your 3ds? do you hate having to have it off always because you think it's dumb
well this is the console for you

Now you can shell out 120 dollars for a 3ds that's not in 3d

I quit
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ivory on August 28, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
My first reaction: Oh this a pretty cool parody.

Then I noticed it actually was real. The damn thing doesn't even flip close. Why?
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ceridran on August 28, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: "Ceridran"
Think of it as a bargain, also directed torwards the ages below 7 or so that shouldn't be using the 3D, or just people who don't care for 3D.

I still want a 3DS XL.

I don't have a 3DS at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ivory on August 28, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
Then it occurred to me. This is being released the same time as Pokemon XY. A cheaper system that will be able to play Pokemon XY. Nintendo,I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Dr. Freeman on August 28, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
If you don't care for 3d, the damn 3ds has a little slider that turns it off.

Ivory: I noticed this shortly after making the topic too, I was wondering what the point was for a while. I'm pretty sure it's just for X and Y, as there's plenty of people who just want to play that game.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: *Alice on August 28, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great?

Still, this is hilarious.
At least even this thing will probably outsell the PSVita by a huuuge margin.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ivory on August 28, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
Quote from: "*Alice"
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great

Excuse me? The 3D may not be that great, but the 3DS has been in no way a disappointment. It took sometime to start creating a sizable library, but hey, every console and handheld has been like that. Some started of a bit better than others but the 3DS has picked up steam and I would say will end up just as good.

The 2DS is pretty much a cheaper alternative, and if it wasn't for the lack of being hinges, I'd probably would of picked one up over a 3DS had I not already had a 3DS. I never bother with the 3D outside of "I wonder what this looks like in 3D". I prefer a longer battery charge over seeing things in 3D.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ceridran on August 28, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
Something I read elsewhere.

Quote
The 2DS is a prime example of one of Nintendo's best qualities: brand loyalty. You get people started on video games at a young age, and as those people age, sure their taste in video games will age, but they'll see a Mario game or a Zelda game or a Pokemon game and go "holy &&&& there's a new zelda game?? &&&& yes oh my god that's my childhood i'm getting that right now". Because of the 2DS' lack of 3D (which isn't recommended for anyone under the age of 7) and the increased durability due to the lack of a hinge (and the cheaper price, too), Nintendo is ensuring that they spread the seeds of Nintendo nostalgia as early as possible.

a really good move on their part
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: LlamaHombre on August 28, 2013, 06:59:20 PM
I actually kinda like the 3D

It just helps accent things better to me

My eyesight probably can't get too much worse

And $130 is steep for something I can't put in my pocket

So uh no sorry
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: -FiniteZero- on August 28, 2013, 07:05:23 PM
...I may end up getting it down the line, just because it's cheaper.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: MusashiAA on August 28, 2013, 07:22:45 PM
Nintendo doesn't need to sell more 3DS units. The 3DS has been doing real good so far...this is the Game Boy Micro of the DS lineup, except it's not so micro as much as it is macro.

Also this

Quote from: "MusashiAA"
"Entry level gamer design"? Do they mean little kids?

It doesn't fold like usual, so I guess it's designed to "last". No 3D, so no danger of damaging kids' eyes. It's also DS-compatible, so that's a plus. A whole lot cheaper than the 3DS, 3DSXL AND price-cut Vita is also a very big plus, too. Seems exactly like what Fils-Aime says: meant for a "family of four, with two kids".

I personally don't like how it can't fold AND HOW IT FUCKING DOESNT HAVE FUCKING DUAL STICKS. But being very cheap is very attractive, and so is being DS-compatible.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Max on August 28, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
It's supposed to last, right

Surely the loss of the hinges is just going to make the screens more prone to scratches
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Tengu on August 28, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: "*Alice"
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great?


The 3D effect isn't what makes the console. I hear you bash the 3DS all the freakin' time without even remotely good reasons. The last time I asked you to give me a valid reason as to why the 3DS is so bad, your response was


"It has no good games."


Which is the most BS reason to give for something like that. I don't like the Xbox 360 much, but I wouldn't go as far as to say "It has no good games." I enjoy a lot of 360 games.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Watzup7856 on August 28, 2013, 10:20:30 PM
Quote from: "Tengu"
Quote from: "*Alice"
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great?


The 3D effect isn't what makes the console. I hear you bash the 3DS all the freakin' time without even remotely good reasons. The last time I asked you to give me a valid reason as to why the 3DS is so bad, your response was


"It has no good games."


Which is the most BS reason to give for something like that. I don't like the Xbox 360 much, but I wouldn't go as far as to say "It has no good games." I enjoy a lot of 360 games.

Kid Icarus: Uprising, Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing New Leaf aren't on the 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Spikeboy on August 28, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: "*Alice"
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great?

But.. but... The first Zelda is on the 3DS!

...That's the best game in the universe, right?
Title: Re: Let's Bash *Alice Thread V.1
Post by: *Alice on August 28, 2013, 10:26:59 PM
I'll just throw this (http://forum.metroidconstruction.com/index.php/topic,390.msg22611.html#msg22611) out there and be on my merry way.

Sorry for not being a blind Nintendo fangirl. And for using my right to have bad opinions.

P.S. Zelda 1 is the best official Zelda game in my opinion. Not the best Nintendo game.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Kapus on August 28, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
Like it or not, you can't really deny the 3DS' success so far.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: doofusroad on August 28, 2013, 10:45:02 PM
people should not hate on a system directed towards little kids

i mean it's not like you have to buy it

besides, a cheap backwards-compatible durable handheld is a pretty good deal

not to mention the top screen has an extra layer to avoid scratches or so i've heard
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: ZeStopper on August 28, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
I think it's supposed to be a tablet, but not really as it focuses more on games.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: DarkAura on August 28, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
That's nifty and all, but can you carry it in your jeans pocket?
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: ZeStopper on August 28, 2013, 11:37:22 PM
Quote from: "DarkAura"
That's nifty and all, but can you carry it in your jeans pocket?
That's why it's moar like a tablet
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Galactan on August 29, 2013, 02:59:36 AM
Quote from: "Watzup7856"
Kid Icarus: Uprising, Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing New Leaf aren't on the 3DS

I'm uh
confused.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: ZeStopper on August 29, 2013, 03:23:25 AM
Quote from: "Watzup7856 when fixed"
Kid Icarus: Uprising, Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing New Leaf are on the 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: squidgy617 on August 29, 2013, 05:38:29 AM
Quote from: "LlamaHombre"
And $130 is steep for something I can't put in my pocket

I can think of a loooot of things people would pay $130 for that can't fit in their pocket.

Just kidding, but anyway, in all seriousness, I think this thing is actually a pretty smart move on Nintendo's part. Like three of my friends want X and Y but don't want to shell out the cash for a 3DS for just one game... well, this is a much cheaper alternative for them since they only really want the one game. Makes plenty of sense to me.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Jman on August 29, 2013, 05:47:34 AM
Quote from: "*Alice"
So Nintendo finally realized that the 3DS is not all that good and a disappointment compared to the DS/DSlite and that 3D doesn't make a console great?

The 3DS has a great lineup of games

Honestly, in no way do I find it a disappointment, I actually enjoy it a lot better than the DS/DSlite in the fact that Nintendo really upped their game with their hardware. The DS era was good, but the hardware was very lacking (especially in sound... the games with voice acting sounded really gurgly).

Also, I'm not bashing your "bad opinions", I'm just somewhat appalled at the fact that you come barging in here with your rather condescending attitude towards us "fanboys" that enjoy these new developments from Nintendo. I understand you not liking the 3DS, but that kind of attitude is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: *Alice on August 29, 2013, 08:52:53 AM
What? I thought this was a very smart move by Nintendo.

I know someone who got a 3DS for AC: New Leaf (which is a game I personally don't care about. AC: Wild World got incredibly boring after a few months and why would AC: New Leaf end up any different). And that person never uses 3D (just like I do). So there is definitely a target group for it.
Not to forget that I almost never take my 3DS outside, if I ever use it ...

The thing with the "braindead fangirl" and "bad opinions" was solely directed towards the three preceding posters who thought they had to convert me to their taste of games/consoles, not the thread or the whole community.
There is a difference between people who like the 3DS and openly say that and people who antagonize me for not liking it and openly saying that. Not to forget taking things I say and turning them into lies.

I have a 3DS. I play only DS games and the first 2 Mario Land games on it. None of the 3DS games just seem worth buying when there are other games I'm more interested in that are also cheaper.
I regret having exchanged my DSlite for a 3DS. It was a mistake and I will never ever buy a console anymore that hasn't been released for at least several years, no matter what company made it.

But I don't care. Play your games, I will play mine.
I don't judge people based on the games they play.
I didn't mean to offend anyone who likes the 3DS except for Tengu, Watzup7856 and Spikeboy.
And it was a coordinated action by them. If you don't believe me read Spikeboy's post.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: ZeStopper on August 29, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
I feel that more people have a 3DS than a WiiU
So this was a good move to get even more people to be able to play with each other.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Ivory on August 29, 2013, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: "*Alice"
-stuff alice wrote-
The whole misunderstanding exploded when you made it sound like you said the system had no good games, rather than no games that appealed to you. It does make for a large difference in understanding.

Personally I can relate to you as I don't have an interest in a lot of main series 3DS games coming out, but there are plenty of smaller company titles that I have looking forward to. (Such as Etrian Odyssey Untold and Rune Factory 4). Heck the only main IP from Nintendo I actually own right now on my 3DS is Fire Emblem Awakening, and that game I have mixed feelings for. It was way, way, way better than the previous games (10,11,12) but the more lackluster quantity supports and the larger stat caps and infinite exp really killed my enjoyment of the game on an end-game level. Does not compare to older titles, FE7, FE8(although, FE8 is just plain rushed, but that's a different story), FE9. Especially when the middle part of the game, the one that is also the most amount of chapters, has little to do with the main plot at hand.

But opinions are onions, no sense in crying over them when you are trying to peel the onion apart. What I was trying to get at with this ramble is that the 3DS has a good line up of games on the objective level. Discounting personal opinion and such.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Knux on August 29, 2013, 04:50:06 PM
I think the 3DS's other functions clearly make it better than the previous DS consoles. That said, I never had a DSi, though I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just throw rehashed tripe at everyone. A music player, a two way camera, internet access... yep, better than the DS as far as apps go. Though if anyone is fine with just Pictochat, big deal. I'll enjoy all of these features and not mind that.

As for games, I feel like the 3DS library could use an injection of new games, instead of remakes and Mario (which I'm not interested in). If you ask me, it would be great if they brought back F-Zero, or released the GB Megaman games on the E-Shop since I never played them. Yes, definitely would be great~

Oh right, the 2DS. I'm not touching that shit. >_>
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Tengu on August 29, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: "*Alice"
I didn't mean to offend anyone who likes the 3DS except for Tengu, Watzup7856 and Spikeboy.


Well, that's awful deliberate ~
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: NemZ on August 29, 2013, 05:02:24 PM
As I read this they simply couldn't get the price down to the point they'd like without cutting features, so that's exactly what they did.  I never use the damn 3d anyway so I understand that removal completely and making it all fit into one hardcase probably simplifies the internal components, allowing them to use slightly less compact alternative parts at a cheaper rate.  At this price point it might as well be a finishing move on the psp/vita and makes it much harder for other potential competitors to enter the market.

Besides, it's not like they're going to stop making the 3ds as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Watzup7856 on August 29, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: "Waruigi"
Quote from: "Watzup7856"
Kid Icarus: Uprising, Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing New Leaf aren't on the 3DS

I'm uh
confused.

I was being sarcastic btw, it wasn't a typo

Also Alice, I wasn't trying to change your opinion, but saying the 3DS is a terrible handheld just because you don't think the games are good is a really bad excuse to say it's overall bad. I have 3 games for the Wii U that got stale to me and I quit playing, but i still think the Wii U is a great console, not because of the games, but because of the how big of a step up it was from the Wii. Same with 3DS, it was a huge step up from the original DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Gumballtoid on August 29, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
I still like using my DS Lite for certain DS games that don't handle well on the 3DS, like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon titles. Otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree that the 3DS is a complete step up from the DS.

Anyway, the only thing the 2DS really has going for it is that it appears to have the original DS's d-pad. Otherwise, it doesn't seem worth dishing out the cash if you've already got a 3DS. Also the circle pad and the buttons seem awfully high up...
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: WheelieCarbonate on August 29, 2013, 09:33:38 PM
Quote from: "Ivory"
Then it occurred to me. This is being released the same time as Pokemon XY. A cheaper system that will be able to play Pokemon XY. Nintendo,I see what you did there.
i better get it then hehhehehehehhehehehe
no but really this is the 2nd dumbest nintendo console yet
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Jakeinator on August 30, 2013, 12:53:41 AM
I really don't see what the big deal is. I already have a 3DS so I'm not getting this, however i find that this is somewhat a good idea. Not as much people use the 3D on the 3DS as people who usually have it off, and if all you want is a 3ds and dont care about the 3D then this would be a better idea. Also what with Ivory said about it being released near X and Y's release its a good marketing and helps people who just don't have enough money to buy the 3DS itself.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Rozark on August 30, 2013, 02:19:31 AM
I'm not a single mother of 4 hoping to spend $200 this Christmas, I already own a 3ds, and I like eating toast not playing games on it. I have no reason to buy one for myself. I see what they were trying to do, but it's.. just.. meh.

Also call me lazy but I'm not reading through the whole thread to check if this was already placed but here's a thing:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: Russel on August 30, 2013, 03:42:12 AM
Before looking into this, all I heard was "2DS" and "3DS without the 3D."
I was kind of happy because "Hey! It's just the 3DS, but without the only feature I don't like! And it's cheaper!? Ohhh yessss...."
- - -
Then I watched the video of it...the lack of the flip-top design the DS, DS Lite, DSi, and 3DS had sort of killed it for me...

But like Ceridran posted on the previous page from an article, the shape appeals children due to its durability and the cheaper console connects younger generations to their company early. The shape doesn't appeal to me...but someone might have a use for it.

Forgive my digression, but that same post reminded me of why I was excited for Pikmin 3...
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: squidgy617 on August 30, 2013, 03:42:42 AM
Quote from: "WheelieCarbonate"
Quote from: "Ivory"
Then it occurred to me. This is being released the same time as Pokemon XY. A cheaper system that will be able to play Pokemon XY. Nintendo,I see what you did there.
i better get it then hehhehehehehhehehehe
no but really this is the 2nd dumbest nintendo console yet

Dumb to you, but it was a smart move on Nintendo's part.
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: VGS2 on August 30, 2013, 05:49:07 AM
My girlfriend had the biggest laugh when I found out about this thing a few days ago and nearly flipped a table, so it gets points for that at least!  :mrgreen:

Seriously though, I wish I had something constructive and/or witty to add to the debate, but most of you have already expressed my concerns and points  about the shark jumping and the clever marketing, and et cetera, so I don't have much to say.

There is something that has been bothering me though. Oh what fun it'll be for all of the old timers, buying their children stuff for christmas and hanukkah and for shits and giggles and what not. The shopping list will say "3D Nintendo toy", but then they'll see the 2DS, get confused, notice the £30 cheaper price point and before ya know it... Sorry, Little Jimmy (aged 8+), but your hingey, 3D-filled christmas has been cancelled. Good luck with Mario 3D land!

Vice versa too. Parents might be asked for the 2Ds, but they'll see the 3DS, think it's a sequel of some kind, forget about the fact that they should read the instructions on that shit, and then sorry, Teeny Tommy (aged >7), but now your eyes are buggered forever.

And then all the parents will get angry that something maimed their kids/forced them to look at the instructions for once in their lives/somebody drew a 3D penis in their child's Animal Crossing game before eating their turnips or whatever, then we'll get some kind of second Jack Thompson and... well, ya get the idea.

With all that said, I might just be paranoid about this all, but I can't help but sense that there's gonna be a lot of confusion for the unknowing public...

The console's still better than the Wii Mini from Canada, but hey, just sayin'.

tl;dr: Parental derp's inevitable.
Also, here's some amusing related shiz to lighten the conversation while I sleep.
(click to show/hide)

Also, one last thing that just came to mind: How's the circle pad pro thing for left handed people gonna fit on the bloody monstrosity anyway?
Title: Re: Nintendo's Nifty Console
Post by: ZeStopper on August 30, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
So, how are people/seven year olds going to be able to do the 3d puzzle boxes in Super Mario 3D world!