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Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch => MM8BDM Discussion => Topic started by: andreasaspenberg on December 04, 2013, 03:15:48 PM

Title: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: andreasaspenberg on December 04, 2013, 03:15:48 PM
i am just asking because it was very common in doom and doom 2.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Ceridran on December 04, 2013, 03:18:40 PM
Actually, no, not really. Doom 2's maps aren't designed with multiplayer or bots in mind, thus are more single-player oriented.

If MM8BDM's core maps had a mass amount of secret rooms, a new player would be frustrated by the constant sneak attacks from walls that open up which they don't know how to open. Plus, in Last Man Standing, it's sure to cause stalling.

In general, it's unnecessary for the map purpose.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Messatsu on December 04, 2013, 04:57:31 PM
As Ceridran has said, no levels have 'secret' rooms in the sense that they trigger the "YOU FOUND A SECRET" message.  However, if you aren't aware of them, hidden in each level is a Yashichi (pinwheel looking thing).  It can be a challenge to find them all, but they're purely cosmetic.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: The_Broker on December 04, 2013, 05:08:36 PM
I do believe there was a secret room containing the Mega Ball in the final level of the MM1-6 maps, though I never figured out how to access it.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Knux on December 04, 2013, 05:10:45 PM
Here's how, Broker:
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Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: The_Broker on December 04, 2013, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: "Knux"
Here's how, Broker:
(click to show/hide)

Ah, thank you Mr. Knux! I was always curious as to how to get into that room.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Ceridran on December 04, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
A secret room for the Mega Ball? Didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Kapus on December 04, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
Yeah, there aren't any secret rooms, but there are still plenty of easter eggs to look for. Yasihchi hunting is really fun!
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: andreasaspenberg on December 06, 2013, 09:21:26 PM
perhaps it would be possible to add secret rooms that remain open once they are found.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Ivory on December 06, 2013, 09:24:07 PM
No, no secret rooms. MM8BDM style is not the same as Doom style.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: andreasaspenberg on December 18, 2013, 02:28:49 PM
many first person shooters have secret rooms.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Rozark on December 18, 2013, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: "andreasaspenberg"
many first person shooters have secret rooms.
..and?
It doesn't mean we have to hop onto such bandwagon. Secret Rooms also tend to be host to broken stuff accessible to only those who know about it, hence unfair advantages. Also I'd like to mention that the placements would break map flow and be frowned upon by the majority of deathmatch. If you really insist on having them, go create a mode or something. Then combine it with Saxton and boom profit
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Ivory on December 18, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: "andreasaspenberg"
many first person shooters have secret rooms.
Exactly as Rozark says, MM8BDM is made for online gameplay. Players against other player, it creates an unfair advantage to have secret rooms. To top it off, once the majority knows where the secret rooms exist, they aren't even that secret anymore, are they? They just become normal, if not unfair, parts of maps.

The only secret room in the game is on a map that can only be played on single player anyways.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Jman on December 19, 2013, 02:32:06 AM
The maps are designed more like arenas rather than levels in a game, and a secret room would encourage camping, hiding, stalling, and many other unwanted results. However, some weapons are cleverly hidden in some maps, and can be useful if you take the time to get them.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Goomba98 on December 20, 2013, 12:04:12 AM
There do exist co-op mods with secret rooms, though.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: andreasaspenberg on February 28, 2014, 12:05:27 AM
quake 3 is based around arenas and there is secret rooms there.
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: The_Broker on February 28, 2014, 12:55:17 AM
Quote from: "andreasaspenberg"
quake 3 is based around arenas and there is secret rooms there.

My good sir, Mr. Ivory and others have made it clear that just because other games use secret rooms does not mean MM8BDM will use them (except in that one single player only level.)
Title: Re: is there any levels that have secret rooms?
Post by: Ivory on February 28, 2014, 01:01:48 AM
What quake 3 does is not what MM8BDM does, as Broker said. I think this topic has ran its course.