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Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch => Projects & Creative => DECORATE and ACS Modifications => Topic started by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 12:47:33 AM

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Post by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 12:47:33 AM

Note: Due to the amount of embarrassment currently in this mod, I wanna kindly ask to wait next version to download this. I am currently updating this with new stuff as well as a LOT of changes.

Saxton Hale Classes (originally by Otaku Alex)

As already explained in Otaku's previous thread, Hale Classes basically makes the hales into playable classes. After he quit working on this, I decided to take over and see what I could do to make it better.

Otaku's last version (reuploaded just because) : http://static.best-ever.org/wads/saxtonhaleclassesv4c.pk3

My latest version: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/saxtonhaleclasses-v7b.pk3

File with music and stuff. (put this before the main file): http://static.best-ever.org/wads/shclassstuff-v3d.pk3



All changes from since v4c to current version:

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- All hales fixed (updated to ++ changes).

- Added Pissed-Off Roll (updated to ++ changes).

- Added Otaku's hales (gave Sonic's Dash an after-effect, Omega Zero has a sorta better moveset, a sorta better placeholder HUD and colored sprites, Mecha Hitler has colored sprites).

- Removed the RM classes (vanilla Megaman is usable).

- Added R3 versions of Cpt. Falcon and Gilgamesh.

- Added Rebirth versions of Falcon, Morshu, Gilgamesh, GOSM and Brutal Sniper.

- Gave Slenderman his scare item from Silversin's version, obits and new HUD (currently not playable in latest version).

- Gave Morshu-Rebirth a buster HUD, colored grapple and colored lamp oil.

- Captain Falcon randomizes between kick and regular punch.

- Added Neo DS.

- Saxton has a custom skin and HUD (credit to DiegoGamer and his brother for making the skin).

Extra Music credits:

OFLASH1-2 - Omega Flash Phase 1 and 2 (Omega Zero and Flash Man) by DJtheS


Also credit to StarDust for the updated hales and TailsMK4 and Jolteon for their versions.


Just because, a link to my music pack thread. - viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6334 (http://www.cutstuff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6334)

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: OtakuAlex on December 23, 2013, 01:21:54 AM

Looks like I found your thread, Frags. Er, ChaosUnlimited I should say now. I guess I should put a link in my thread so that people can find this more easily. BTW, you might want to nerf Sonic's HP for balancing purposes and fix Hitler's rage so that the gas doesn't spawn only once. I'd love to see what you do with my first MM8BDM mod and if it could end up being just as good as the real Saxton Hale, so keep up the work. Also, it would be wise to post something here everytime you update in order to bump the thread.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 03:41:22 AM

Oh, I already fixed Hitler's rage in the current version. Also, I plan on looking into the health thing. The reason why I decided to increase the hale health in the first place so that some attacks wouldn't OHKO, but could still deal decent damage.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 04:53:50 PM

For my first bump of this thread, I present music packs of a few albums by ThePlasmas, MM1, 6, and Zero albums. I uploaded them to BE, but if someone would rather upload them somewhere else like MediaFire or something, be my guest.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: OtakuAlex on December 23, 2013, 05:10:57 PM

BE is the best place to upload wads, PK3's, and PK7's. It's best to keep it there. Also, if you're gonna make a separate Thingz file for your wad, it's best to remove the music so that people can download it faster.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 06:34:08 PM

If it's okay to put the music in a separate music pack, then I suppose so. I'd like some way to keep the music intact somehow for anyone that wanted to changemus to a certain hale theme.

Also, it seemed that I accidentally changed Gilgamesh's rage back to Rocket punch (when I had it changed to Bitter End), so I'm gonna see about either putting up a poll to decide which one people like better, or come up with a way to make him have both somehow, maybe?

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Azure Sky on December 23, 2013, 06:36:11 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna hope you fixed the mus packs because I looked back at them after I was done working on them and noticed I mixed up a few of the tracks.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Hunter Frags on December 23, 2013, 06:46:19 PM

Quote from: "Azure Sky"

Yeah, I'm gonna hope you fixed the mus packs because I looked back at them after I was done working on them and noticed I mixed up a few of the tracks.

I kept the ones I already fixed and uploaded them instead, so you're good.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff.
Post by: Azure Sky on December 24, 2013, 12:48:11 AM

Oh, okay. Good.

Title: Re: Frags' Base of Projects and Stuff. (Hale Classes V5F)
Post by: Hunter Frags on December 24, 2013, 06:55:51 PM

Update! A thanks to Jax for telling me how to deal with the skin issue, so now Ninja, Gilgamesh, and GOSM have their proper skins. Also, I decided to add the R3 version of Gilgamesh since he had Bitter End for rage, so no more need to decide which rage you'd prefer. This and other stuff are in the updated changelog.

Oh, almost forgot to mention. I went ahead and put the music in a separate music pack for download (partially for room). I'm likely gonna include this in my Hale Class servers anyway.

Edit: there appeared to be an issue with some of the music files, so I put them back in the thingz file and they worked fine. Odd.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Classes V6)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 02, 2014, 05:16:45 AM

Hale Classes now updated to V6. Also tidied up the changelog so it would be easier to read.

So here's what I've been up to this time:

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- Added the Rebirth versions of Falcon, Morshu, Gilgamesh, GOSM and Brutal Sniper.

- Updated the hales to their ++ versions (with permission from StarDust).

- Disabled Slenderman's rage, gave him his scare item from SilverSin's version, and gave him an obituary (the ones he already had were removed in ++).

Edit: Also forgot to mention I didn't readd Sonic in this version. I plan to whenever Otaku is able to fix his updated version of him.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Classes V6)
Post by: Stardust on January 03, 2014, 12:53:27 PM

The hales can't pick health capsules at a certain moment :/ They have like a "health pickup" limit
It must have something to do with Player.MaxHealth or something

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Classes V6)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 03, 2014, 04:47:02 PM

Quote from: "Stardust"

The hales can't pick health capsules at a certain moment :/ They have like a "health pickup" limit
It must have something to do with Player.MaxHealth or something

I've been wondering why it did that. :/ Thanks for telling me something and I'm gonna go look back at that.

Edit: I just figured out the issue. Otaku originally edited the health and energy files to work with the hales differences in health/energy, so for the health part, I had to change inventory.maxamount to 1000 (which is the maxamount I set for all the hales excluding Sonic). One thing I haven't figured out yet, though, was how to get E, W, and M tanks to work for them. :/

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Classes V6b)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 03, 2014, 07:55:33 PM

Okay, I just updated the file so the health pickups will do like they're supposed to. As of now, I have a small list of other things I'd  like help figuring out.

1. Fix it so that hales can use E, W, and M tanks (as I mentioned in the above post).

And 2. Make hales unable to pick up weapons (this caused a glitch with Quote where he couldn't charge his spur).

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6d-e)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 11, 2014, 06:25:51 AM

Welp... I present another Hale Classes update.

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- Fixed E, W, and M-tanks.

- Gave Morshu-Rebirth a buster HUD since it's less ridiculous than throwing oil. Also recolored the oil to look more like, well, lamp oil.

- Captain Falcon's attacking now randomizes between kick and punch (not Falcon Punch. Either way this might not have been my brightest idea).

- Gave Slenderman a hand HUD to replace his usual tentacles one (still uses them for rage), buffed his scare item, and a couple other little things (also, rage is reenabled, but be aware that normal darkness stays when it wears off).

- Hales are now unable to pick up weapons.

- Readded Sonic in his latest version and made a little change to his dash.

- Gave Omega Zero... a new hand. ._. Gonna make sure someone else isn't already planning on making an HUD for him before I do anything to the saber part.

Comments on my personal touches and/or suggestions on what to change or improve would be appreciated.

Edit/Double edit: Realizing I made a few slight mistakes, updated the file again (and again :I). Current version now is V6f.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 12, 2014, 03:07:36 AM

I had this Idea... but I'd like some input on this. I thought of altering some of the weapons the hales use to make into copyweps. Poll on first page.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 12, 2014, 04:14:04 AM

That is actually a concept I originally wanted to do, so I'm all for seeing it happen.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: coolcat7022 on January 16, 2014, 12:45:29 AM

I don't know.. If the weapons were balanced versions of the boss's attacks then i'd be cool with it, but they're direct copy-pastes of hale attacks in wep form, i won't be amused.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 16, 2014, 01:34:05 AM

Quote from: "coolcat7022"

I don't know.. If the weapons were balanced versions of the boss's attacks then i'd be cool with it, but they're direct copy-pastes of hale attacks in wep form, i won't be amused.

First part is correct. What I wanted to do was take a unique weapon from each hale (this includes rage attacks) and alter them a little to use like a regular weapon.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: coolcat7022 on January 16, 2014, 12:44:00 PM

I meant to say "but if they're direct copy-pastes" Not "but they're direct copy-pastes"

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 16, 2014, 05:33:58 PM

Quote from: "coolcat7022"

I meant to say "but if they're direct copy-pastes" Not "but they're direct copy-pastes"

Ik what you mean't. :/ I was just explaining how i'm gonna do it.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: coolcat7022 on January 16, 2014, 07:53:28 PM

Oh, sorry. And i asume morshu's wep is gonna be his bombs, or is it gonna be something else, since you know... Morshu's bombs are essentially an unbalanced hyper bomb.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: fortegigasgospel on January 17, 2014, 01:39:00 AM

So, what good is a hale copy weap if the game ends when the hale dies?

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 17, 2014, 01:54:13 AM

Uhm this isn't like the gamemode. xD Not trying to put this rude, but did you read the info on the first page correctly?

Edit: I mean, this mod takes the hales from the gamemode and uses them like classes instead (which is wrote on the first page, of course). This is usable for DM, LMS, and modes and stuff like that since it's a class pack. Sorry if you didn't understand.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 17, 2014, 02:11:22 AM

Yes, but, at the same time, it can't be used with the core Saxton mod. Unless you changed the actor and weapon names, in which case, it can.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 17, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

Quote from: "OtakuAlex"

Yes, but, at the same time, it can't be used with the core Saxton mod. Unless you changed the actor and weapon names, in which case, it can.

True, but what sense would it make making Hale classes compatible with the Hale gamemode if you can pick what hale you wanna be anyway? XD

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V6f)
Post by: OtakuAlex on January 17, 2014, 06:09:40 AM

Well, it would certainly be interesting to see the classes face off against themselves except with more HP.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V7)
Post by: Hunter Frags on January 18, 2014, 10:27:18 PM

Now for a new, not-as-broken update.

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- Added Neo DS

- Nerfed hale health and some attacks.

- Enabled the Megaman class and readded the Blues and Forte classes (might remove them again next version and just keep the megaman).

- Changed some stuff for Omega Zero:

*More decent placeholder sprites.

*New attacks (Alt with a semi-full jumpmeter for 3-shot attack and rage changed to my attempt at his 7-slash move)

I'll be working on the hale copyweps for next version.

Title: Re: Frags' Projects and Stuff. (Hale Class Pack V7b)
Post by: Hunter Frags on February 10, 2014, 04:10:55 AM

Time for another bump to my ridiculous thread.


Hales with copyweps so far and the copyweps in general:

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Christian Brutal Sniper/Brutal Sniper-Rebirth - Sniper Shot
Uses the version and sprites from Silversin's version of (Robo-)Christian Brutal Sniper.

Ghost of Starman V2/Ghost of Starman-Rebirth - PSI Starstorm Alpha
Nerfed PSI Starstorm Alpha.

Cave Johnson - Lemon Launcher/Lemon Buster
Nerfed Combustable lemon launcher.

Note: Rebirth/Regulars only drop the same weapon because they don't have any other unique(-ish) weapons (this is obvious anyway -_-).

Some weapons, I've yet to figure out, but I'll try to add on as I do so.

As for other changes:

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- Gave Saxton Hale his custom skin (credit to DiegoGamer and his brother for making it).
- Also gave Saxton a custom HUD.
- COLORED BARS!!! (... Yeah, nothing special with that, but they're there).

Edit: Music packs have been moved to a separate thread.

Title: Re: Frags' Whatever. (Hale Class Pack V7b)
Post by: QuickMan73 on February 19, 2014, 06:32:47 PM

So just wondering, is there anyway to fight against these classes on offline skirmish?

Title: Re: Frags' Whatever. (Hale Class Pack V7b)
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2014, 07:53:11 PM

Sonic's rage is too overpowered/cheap. You have to edit it or do something.