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Title: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: Beed28 on April 01, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
Hey there, I've been deeply experimenting with some stuff for the past few weeks. Behold, destructible terrain!
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Want to blow a hole in the wall, creating a new route? No problem! Want to carve some ditches in the ground to hide in? Be my guest! Most explosive weapons have been specially modified to destroy parts of the terrain as you see fit!

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More screenshots of destruction goodness:
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Unfortunately, the maps have to be specially adapted for terrain destruction. Only Cut Man's, Drill Man's, Gravity Man's and Shadow Man's stages have been adapted so far.

DOWNLOAD HERE:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqsc4oy5a68ri ... ha_0.1.pk3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqsc4oy5a68riew/MM8BDM_Destructible_Terrain_Alpha_0.1.pk3)
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: -FiniteZero- on April 01, 2014, 02:06:27 AM
Huh. I didn't even know this sort of thing was possible in MM8BDM.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Russel on April 01, 2014, 02:21:57 AM
Yeah I tried this mod, and honestly this is kinda cool. I tried predicting how the mod would work, and I was way wrong.
I guess I don't know as much about this engine as I boast about.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Rui on April 01, 2014, 03:20:40 AM
Quote from: "-FiniteZero-"
Huh. I didn't even know this sort of thing was possible in MM8BDM.

Me neither!



I'm soooo trying this out whenever I can, this looks super rad and I bet it'll be loads of fun with more progress. :'D
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: ZeStopper on April 01, 2014, 05:01:37 AM
kawfminecraftkawf
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: OrangeMario on April 01, 2014, 08:16:49 AM
Here's some shinannagins i got myself into in drills; ended up trying to drill to the heavens.

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A little disappointed that DrillBomb has a weaker effect on the enviorment, but its meant to be a drill, not a bomb I suppose.

however this might screw some players over if you use it at spawn, and they can't dig their way out. I'd suggest you find a way prevent this...
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Myroc on April 01, 2014, 09:15:37 AM
That's a really, really clever method you used to implement this, didn't even think that was all possible. Well done!
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Beed28 on April 01, 2014, 02:38:55 PM
Thank you for the positive comments! :D It's taken me a long time to figure out terrain destruction under Zandronum's environment (let alone the Doom engine itself), and there's still a long ways to go yet before it's perfected (online multiplayer, for example, is untested).
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: PotatoStrike on April 01, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
Horrible.
If I uses explosives on ground, it explodes portions of the ground, making it impossible to fight!
This is not a good mod!
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Captain Barlowe on April 01, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
This mod is the best thing ever.
Seriously, I haven't played this game in years and the creative prowess present in this mod makes me want to play it loads more.
7/7, would play again
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Ceridran on April 01, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: "PotatoStrike"
Horrible.
If I uses explosives on ground, it explodes portions of the ground, making it impossible to fight!
This is not a good mod!

(http://anotherschwab.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/miss-the-point.png)

Best Maps Ever pack got very similar feedback, from people who also missed the point.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: -Daiki-TheOni on April 01, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
This.... should be implemented in the core.... like some kind of mutator or like "buckshoot, instagib,etc" I dont know, but.... its funny as hell.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Knux on April 02, 2014, 05:09:10 PM
Just add it as a Chaos Generator effect and be done with it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: PotatoStrike on April 02, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: "PotatoStrike"
Horrible.
If I uses explosives on ground, it explodes portions of the ground, making it impossible to fight!
This is not a good mod!

WHO. JUST WHO... changed my comment!

I wrote:
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Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Russel on April 02, 2014, 06:57:18 PM
Someone doesn't understand what April Fool's is...
It was likely Korby or some mod that changed it to keep from spoiling it.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (Very Early Alpha Stage)
Post by: Ceridran on April 02, 2014, 08:18:26 PM
I wouldn't have known the difference. I'm too lazy to actually test the wad.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: Beed28 on April 02, 2014, 09:18:18 PM
I think it's been long enough. Yes, this is an April Fools' joke. No, destructible terrain on this scale is not feasibly possible in this engine. While something like Duke Nukem 3D's, Shadow Warrior's or Blood's destroyable walls may be feasible (given that BUILD is a 2.5D engine like Doom's), full scale destructible terrain like in Minecraft is completely off the table.
Title: im on mobile so i cant test dont judge
Post by: Rui on April 02, 2014, 10:17:23 PM
.... I thought this was honestly real because it was posted on March 31st. (at least my time)
@_@.

Silly me.
Title: Random "moments" much?
Post by: Awbawlisk on April 02, 2014, 10:26:32 PM
And this is why you should never trust euros before the actual day @_@
Title: Re: im on mobile so i cant test dont judge
Post by: SmashTheEchidna on April 02, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: "Rui-"
.... I thought this was honestly real because it was posted on March 31st. (at least my time)
@_@.
Same here actually.
Not that I ever downloaded it anyway though.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: tsukiyomaru0 on April 02, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
Quote from: "Awbawlisk"
And this is why you should never trust euros moments before the actual day @_@
And this is why I hate April 1st...

On semi related subject, I have seen something of Worms Doom with destructable terrain, But I think it would be impractical.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: -FiniteZero- on April 02, 2014, 11:34:54 PM
The most feasible idea of destruction altering the map would be one where there are Gutsblocks (or whatever equivalent you need) that can be destroyed with explosive weapons to reveal extra paths.

But I don't know if this is a good idea.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: Davregis on April 03, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
Beed, why?
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: -FiniteZero- on April 03, 2014, 11:41:42 PM
Because someone always puts out this sort of thing every April 1st.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: Korby on April 04, 2014, 05:43:37 AM
and then there are those like finitezero here who try and ruin it the second it happens, so I have to step in and preserve the joke :ugeek:
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: -FiniteZero- on April 04, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Actually, all I said was "I didn't think this was possible.",  and that was before I found out it was a joke.

You're thinking of PotatoStrike.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: PotatoStrike on April 04, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
Aww...
I don't know this was a joke of 1st April.
Title: Re: Destructible Terrain! (APRIL FOOLS!!)
Post by: Korby on April 05, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
Quote from: "-FiniteZero-"
Actually, all I said was "I didn't think this was possible.",  and that was before I found out it was a joke.

Your post previously had an edit that said something along the lines of "this is an april fool's joke"
I edited it out.