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Title: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: Beed28 on January 25, 2015, 07:38:06 PM

Smash Arsenal

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(http://i.imgur.com/Mt0v2HL.png)

SmashArsenal_v0.2.pk3 (Sendspace download) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/ow8w1v)

This is Smash Arsenal, a mod that gives the player most of Mega Man's moveset from Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U. Instead of collecting weapons, you can hold down a directional button and then use primary or secondary fires to use a particular attack. As a result, all weapons and buster upgrades are removed from the map, along with ammo pickups, W-Tanks, Energy Balancers, and Reggae Calls. All mobility assisting items such as Item-1, Wire Adaptor and Rush Jet are also gone. M-Tanks are replaced with the normal E-Tank. Some items such as Beat Support and Tango are still available. The Party Ball's drops have also changed to reflect this.

Moveset list:

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Primary actions:
Neutral (Ground or Air): Mega Buster - Fires a Mega Buster shot. Travels a short distance.
Backwards (Ground): Slide - Kicks forward, damaging any enemy in the way. Can pierce shields.
Forwards (Ground): Top Spin - Spins forward, damaging enemies around you. Can pierce shields.
Forward + Backwards (Ground): Mega Upper - A very powerful Shoryuken that launches opponents upwards if it connects. Can pierce shields.
Forwards (In air): Air Shooter - Air Man's weapon. Fires an Air Shooter tornado that arcs up. Enemies caught are blown around.
Backwards (In air): Hard Knuckle - Hard Man's weapon. Shoots a strong Hard Knuckle fist. Travels a short distance. Causes recoil.
Left (In air): Flame Sword - Sword Man's weapon. Swings a sword of flame towards the left. Can pierce shields. Can ignite oil pits.
Right (In air): Slash Claw - Slash Man's weapon. A more concentrated slash. Can pierce shields.

Secondary actions:
Neutral: Metal Blade - Metal Man's weapon. Throws a Metal Blade that travels a moderate distance. Only one can be thrown at a time. Can get stuck on the terrain and be picked up by other opponents.
Fowards: Rush Coil - Summons Rush to boost your height. Afterwards, he will remain until either a short period passes or when someone bounces on him.
Backwards: Leaf Shield - Wood Man's weapon. Surrounds yourself with a barrier of leaves that can take a small amount of damage. The leaves can also damage opponents next to you, and can also be thrown a short distance. Thrown shields can pierce other shields.
Left or Right: Crash Bomb - Crash Man's weapon. Shoot an explosive that travels a moderate distance and then attaches to a surface until it explodes. Only one Crash Bomb can be shot at a time.

Adjustable cvars:

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Change these in the console to customise your colour and setup of your custom specials. Changes take effect on next respawn.

SmashArsenal_AltPalette: 0 (Default), 1 (Rush Coil), 2 (Leaf Shield), 3 (Metal Blade), 4 (Air Shooter), 5 (Slash Claw), 6 (Flame Sword), 7 (Thunder Beam)

SmashArsenal_CustomNeutralSpecial: 0 (Metal Blade), 1 (Hyper Bomb), 2 (Shadow Blade)
SmashArsenal_CustomForwardSpecial: 0 (Rush Coil), 1 (Tornado Hold), 2 (Beat)
SmashArsenal_CustomBackSpecial: 0 (Leaf Shield), 1 (Skull Barrier), 2 (Plant Barrier)
SmashArsenal_CustomSideSpecial: 0 (Crash Bomb), 1 (Ice Slasher), 2 (Danger Wrap)

Server operator only:
sv_SmashArsenal_BanCustomSpecials: Set to 1 or higher to restrict players to their default specials. Only takes effect on map start.
sv_SmashArsenal_DisableStaleMoveNegation: Set to 1 or higher to disable Stale-Move Negation. Only takes effect on map start.

What currently isn't included:

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Smash Attacks: While charging the Mega Buster is easy to do, it renders Mega Man completely immobile while he does it in Super Smash Bros., and that would leave the player in MM8BDM way too vulnerable. Plus, Spark Shot and Flame Blast are way too different in that game anyway to effectively translate in MM8BDM.
Final Smash: MM8BDM wouldn't be able to handle a cinematic attack animation like Mega Man's Final Smash.
Crash Bomb sticking to other opponents: Having Crash Bombs stick to other opponents (and being able to pass it onto others) is way beyond my coding expertise, let alone making it still count as a kill for the one who shot it in the first place.
Ice Slasher freezing opponents: While something like Wily Capsule's ice projectiles can be done, there's no ice encasing sprite for the victim to come with it.
Ridley: I tried to include him, but he ended up being way too big for my liking and I had to exclude him. Sorry about that. :

Changelog:

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Changes in Ver. 0.2
* Altered the CVars system. Hopefully they work online properly now!
* Increased jump height to match the one in instagib.
* When firing the Mega Buster, you can hold down to keep firing it, like in core
  MM8BDM.
* Altered the controls so that you hold down the keys instead of having to press
  them (note: left and right keys have priorty).
* Rush Coil should now work properly when standing in floor clipping surfaces.
* Added slight weapon lag to end of Air Shooter to prevent rapid firing
+ Added slide (so more or less, Charge Kick).
+ Added Top Spin (works like Top Man's in Classes, except with less distance)
+ Added Mega Upper (powerful shoryuken that has very limited range)
- Removed Ridley.

Changes in Ver. 0.1
SmashArsenal_v0.1.pk3 (Sendspace download) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/tx67aj)
Note: Custom CVars aren't working online, which means the server controls which palette and custom moves everyone gets. It's perfectly fine for offline skirmish, though.
* First release.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Russel on January 26, 2015, 06:47:54 PM

It's nice, I suppose, but there's no way the player-based options will work online and it feels really incomplete without certain parts of the arsenal at play...parts that you omitted.
The click-to-fire Mega Buster was omitted from core 8BDM for a reason and bringing it back without some help is kind of painful.
Leaf Shield is just a reskin of Star Crash without anything that could have made it a cool switchup from what's already in core like how it had four shields in the source content. I know that's asking for a lot for that specific part but it would be worth it in making it more interesting.
Controls for it are somewhat finicky, and I still have no idea how the up attacks work even after looking at the code...it's weird.

The player options were a nice touch but you know what happens when you take that online? Every player is subjected to what the server has set for options.
It requires a bit more code than just GetCVar on an enter script and it gets exponentially harder to code with each value in a player option cvar.

All in all, it's a nice project but it has no place in formal or even casual play because fighting game style controls have no place in an arena-style FPS.
Sorry.

If this were a mod for Single Player Doom, however...
If the air-based controls were adjusted and stuff was changed to work while you were holding mouse 1 or mouse 2...wait...
shit then you'd have DemonSteele (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46787) wouldn't you?

Well...all I can say is if you work on how your inputs are set up, I could see this going places, but having attacks require you to press a direction button and fire at the same time can lead to some pretty funky situations and I don't personally recommend it. As a final note, I don't recommend having air-based actions unless you increase the jump height. This is especially important when you consider you removed every item in the game.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Beed28 on January 26, 2015, 08:47:33 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

It should be pretty easy to make it so the Mega Buster keeps firing if you hold down the mouse 1 button. If I did that, I may be able to bring in the slide and Top Spin with little problem. I have no idea on how to do Leaf Shield's rotating four leaves thing from the source game, let along being able to throw them. For attacks, would they work better if you were holding down said direction instead of clicking?

I had no idea on how to make certain CVars player sided and others server sided. Is there a solution for that, or is it GZDoom only? Because if it's GZDoom only, then I'm screwed...

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Russel on January 26, 2015, 09:18:58 PM

There isn't an easy way of doing it at the moment. I recall talk of a function that that could read client-sided cvars in server-sided calls in the Zandronum bug tracker, but it's not had signs of getting implemented.

If you wish to embark on a journey of science and potential pain, you could make a system that uses clientside enter scripts that then check the cvars of the user, creates them if they don't exist, etc.
To get the server to read these options, you would want the player to start with a list of inventory items that have -INVBAR that would be used by the aforementioned clientside script through ConsoleCommand calls.

something that would look like...

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script X ENTER CLIENTSIDE
{
//cvar declarations
if(!getCvar("Examplecvar")){ConsoleCommand("set examplecvar 0; archivecvar examplecvar; use testCanceller;");}
else if(getCvar("Examplecvar")==1){ConsoleCommand("use testSuccesser");}
}

while the decorate would look something like...

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actor testFailFlag : Once {}
actor testSuccessFlag : Once {}
actor testCanceller : CustomInventory
{
+INVENTORY.AUTOACTIVATE
States
{
Use:
TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("TestSuccesser", 1)
TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("TestFailFlag",1)
stop
}
}

actor testSuccesser : testCanceller
{
states
{
Use:
TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("TestCanceller", 1)
TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("TestSuccessFlag",1)
stop
}
}
I...wanna experiment with this again because last time I tried this, I found you could not use items more than once in a single tic with consolecommand.
Give me about an hour and a half, maybe?

Edit: Yeah. After a brief test, I found that this is true. No matter what you do, regardless of whether you connect two statements into the same string and execute it using consolecommand or separate them into two separate function calls, it is impossible to call more than one use command for item using in a single tic.
I would recommend just tagging this as a single player mod or straight up removing the player options.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Beed28 on January 27, 2015, 02:24:08 AM

Hmm, I've seen user sided CVars being used in Samsara (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33219), even in the Zandronum version. I'm not sure if those work online, though.

I'll try asking on the ZDoom forums.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Russel on January 27, 2015, 02:55:28 AM

Alright, sorry I couldn't help you further.
I do remember poking around the code of Samsara and seeing stuff on client options.

...oh...

This is actually crazy simple. I'll need to try and get this working elsewhere.
Basically it uses console command to call a net script that sets the values based on the activator's player number.

So...it would look something like...

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int exampleswitch[64];

Script X ENTER clientside
{
//keep the old cvar creation stuff in this script too.
int val = getCVar("examplecvar");
int pln = PlayerNumber();
int cln = ConsolePlayerNumber();
int Y = ;//put a number here
if(pln!=cln){Delay(1);}
str command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);
}

script Y (int val, pln) net
{//in Samsara, it actually uses binary logic to handle multiple flags without using a ton of if else statements.
//This may not be necessary here unless you want to simplify it.
exampleswitch[pln] = val;
}
Well.
I hope this helps.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Beed28 on January 27, 2015, 05:07:53 PM

So I did something like this:

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int paletteSwitch[64];
int neutralSwitch[64];
int forwardSwitch[64];
int backSwitch[64];
int sideSwitch[64];

Script 451 ENTER clientside
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
if(!GetCvar("SmashArsenal_AltPalette")) {ConsoleCommand("set SmashArsenal_AltPalette 0"); ConsoleCommand("ArchiveCvar SmashArsenal_AltPalette");}
if(!GetCvar("SmashArsenal_CustomNeutralSpecial")) {ConsoleCommand("set SmashArsenal_CustomNeutralSpecial 0"); ConsoleCommand("ArchiveCvar SmashArsenal_CustomNeutralSpecial");}
if(!GetCvar("SmashArsenal_CustomForwardSpecial")) {ConsoleCommand("set SmashArsenal_CustomForwardSpecial 0"); ConsoleCommand("ArchiveCvar SmashArsenal_CustomForwardSpecial");}
if(!GetCvar("SmashArsenal_CustomBackSpecial")) {ConsoleCommand("set SmashArsenal_CustomBackSpecial 0"); ConsoleCommand("ArchiveCvar SmashArsenal_CustomBackSpecial");}
if(!GetCvar("SmashArsenal_CustomSideSpecial")) {ConsoleCommand("set SmashArsenal_CustomSideSpecial 0"); ConsoleCommand("ArchiveCvar SmashArsenal_CustomSideSpecial");}

int val = getCVar("SmashArsenal_AltPalette");
int pln = PlayerNumber();
int cln = ConsolePlayerNumber();
int Y = 456;
if(pln!=cln){Delay(1);}
str command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);

Delay(1);

if(banCustoms >= 1){terminate;}

val = getCVar("SmashArsenal_CustomNeutralSpecial");
Y = 457;
command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);

Delay(1);

val = getCVar("SmashArsenal_CustomForwardSpecial");
Y = 458;
command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);

Delay(1);

val = getCVar("SmashArsenal_CustomBackSpecial");
Y = 459;
command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);

Delay(1);

val = getCVar("SmashArsenal_CustomSideSpecial");
Y = 460;
command = strParam(s:"puke ", i:Y, s:" ", i:val, s:" ", i:pln);
ConsoleCommand(command);
}

script 456 (int val, int pln) net
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
paletteSwitch[pln] = val;

if(paletteSwitch[pln] <= 0){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0, 0,1);} //Default (Mega Buster)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 1){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0,77,1);} //Red (Rush)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 2){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0, 2,1);} //Green (Leaf Shield)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 3){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0,17,1);} //Brown (Metal Blade)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 4){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0, 6,1);} //Light Blue (Air Shooter)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 5){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0,69,1);} //Olive (Slash Claw)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] == 6){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0,81,1);} //Fire (Flame Sword)
if(paletteSwitch[pln] >= 7){ACS_ExecuteAlways(998,0,16,1);} //Yellowish Grey (Thunder Beam)
}

script 457 (int val, int pln) net
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
neutralSwitch[pln] = val;

if(neutralSwitch[pln] == 1){GiveInventory("CustomNeutral1",1);}
if(neutralSwitch[pln] >= 2){GiveInventory("CustomNeutral2",1);}
}

script 458 (int val, int pln) net
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
forwardSwitch[pln] = val;

if(forwardSwitch[pln] == 1){GiveInventory("CustomForward1",1);}
if(forwardSwitch[pln] >= 2){GiveInventory("CustomForward2",1);}
}

script 459 (int val, int pln) net
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
backSwitch[pln] = val;

if(backSwitch[pln] == 1){GiveInventory("CustomBack1",1);}
if(backSwitch[pln] >= 2){GiveInventory("CustomBack2",1);}
}

script 460 (int val, int pln) net
{
if(PlayerIsBot(PlayerNumber())){terminate;}
sideSwitch[pln] = val;

if(sideSwitch[pln] == 1){GiveInventory("CustomSide1",1);}
if(sideSwitch[pln] >= 2){GiveInventory("CustomSide2",1);}
}

I'm not sure if it's completely optimal, but it works offline at least.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.1
Post by: Russel on January 27, 2015, 05:18:24 PM

Yeah that should work online, though theoretically you are allowed to puke more than one script at the same time.
I'm just glad it works, to be honest.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: Beed28 on February 01, 2015, 02:47:29 AM

Here's a new version, with several changes. You now just need to be holding down a directional key instead of quickly pressing them before firing. Hopefully the CVars will work online now.

SmashArsenal_v0.2.pk3 (Sendspace download) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/ow8w1v)

Changelog:

(click to show/hide)

Changes in Ver. 0.2
* Altered the CVars system. Hopefully they work online properly now!
* Increased jump height to match the one in instagib.
* When firing the Mega Buster, you can hold down to keep firing it, like in core
  MM8BDM.
* Altered the controls so that you hold down the keys instead of having to press
  them (note: left and right keys have priorty).
* Rush Coil should now work properly when standing in floor clipping surfaces.
* Added slight weapon lag to end of Air Shooter to prevent rapid firing
+ Added slide (so more or less, Charge Kick).
+ Added Top Spin (works like Top Man's in Classes, except with less distance)
+ Added Mega Upper (powerful shoryuken that has very limited range)
- Removed Ridley.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: Zero1000 on February 01, 2015, 04:10:54 AM

Yay, now we can play 32 player smash Megaman only!

I have an idea for the Final Smash. How about it only summoning the other megamans and then you and them shoot the beams?

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: Trillster on February 01, 2015, 04:28:45 AM

Quote from: "zero1000"

Yay, now we can play 32 player smash Megaman only!

I have an idea for the Final Smash. How about it only summoning the other megamans and then you and them shoot the beams?

That's just exactly what it did in SSB4... Anyway, I think it would be rather difficult to add a Smash Ball that randomly spawns without making completely new maps. It'd be a cool idea to add but it also seems like it wouldn't be that practical in 3D even with removing the Black Hole Bomb step.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: Zero1000 on February 01, 2015, 04:41:27 AM

Quote from: "Sonicfam1102"

Quote from: "zero1000"

Yay, now we can play 32 player smash Megaman only!

I have an idea for the Final Smash. How about it only summoning the other megamans and then you and them shoot the beams?

That's just exactly what it did in SSB4... Anyway, I think it would be rather difficult to add a Smash Ball that randomly spawns without making completely new maps. It'd be a cool idea to add but it also seems like it wouldn't be that practical in 3D even with removing the Black Hole Bomb step.

Maybe you're right, but it would be without the cinematics. Also, for the smash ball, we should replace it for a final smash bar that fills when you do damage, and can only be used when full.

Title: Re: Smash Arsenal Ver. 0.2
Post by: ScrapHeap on February 03, 2015, 03:21:59 PM

But then it wouldn't be a 'game-changer' like in Smash; it would be a given that can be abused. The smash ball isn't something that's expected, which is why it's so potent in the first place. If people want it hard enough, couldn't it just be a flying monster that doesn't attack and just roams, much like the Yambos except a lot slipperier?