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Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch => MM8BDM Discussion => Topic started by: CarThief on October 16, 2010, 06:51:29 PM

Title: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 16, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Anyone else got that particular problem, you want to play, but ALL the Megaman servers that are being used are nothing but US or worse? Something i encounter daily, considering a low ping is a must-have for my, uh, need to game at top effeciency, having as small as possible ping and absolutely NEVER having any lagging shots or reactions (they're lethal, very lethal.

So... I wonder if anyone's making an reliable EU server, or maybe Cutman can arrange one(if those damned us servers actually dont suck away all the players in their laggy domain)?

Aside looking for solutions, i'd say this is a fine place to rant about the lack of non-laggy non-US servers , too. Maybe i'll host one again, though there's rarely any enjoyable people to play it with. :P
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Mr. X on October 16, 2010, 06:55:37 PM
I've seen UK servers every now and then, but none that are permanent as far as I know.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: KillerChair on October 16, 2010, 07:07:13 PM
I usually play with a 200 - 250 ping... that kinda sucks but im used to crappy connections so thats ok.

If it really bothers you coult try to set up a server yourself and invite people to it.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2010, 07:21:10 PM
One of the problems is that most US ISPs have very crappy upload speeds compared to the download and most people are running the servers out of their house.

I've got plenty of upload and most of the people on my server are sub 100ms ping.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 16, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
I just happen to see your server, though personally that 150-ish ping or so is way to laggy for me to play properly. Ping near 80-90 is barely acceptable, those might cause some delays, any worse and its a whole lag-fest!

Meh, i might just be horribily picky, but i'm pretty confident that lag comes at even medium ping, its quite annoying. There is an incredible lack of European servers though, aside mine i sometimes host. Or just about anything with good ping to Europeans.

Meh, hope i can find something playable.

Edit: This is rediculous! I know its not such an active time for Europeans, but...!

List of MM servers with people:
(click to show/hide)
How am i supposed to play normally? Any love for the Europeans?
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: PressStart on October 16, 2010, 08:29:18 PM
DoomThroughDoom hosts one sometimes. Have you ever tried his?
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 16, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
Never seen it, i bet. I sometimes host my own too, though that might conflict a little with World of Warcraft that i sometimes play. Hell, if anyone needs an EU server avaiable i might be tempted to host it whenever i am back from work. Though it barely takes 9-10 people before it starts lagging, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 16, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
Meh, I'll start hosting more often.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: BlaXun on October 17, 2010, 09:51:54 AM
I have to agree... most servers gimme a 150+ Ping...half the listed servers even 200-300 ping...

Rarely I see a < 100 ping server :(
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: saskrotch on October 17, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
ease up champ, it's just a game
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 17, 2010, 07:13:55 PM
A game that's unfair due to ping.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: saskrotch on October 17, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
yeah, but i'm saying there will be no actual consequences if you lose. there is nothing at stake when you open up the server browser.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 17, 2010, 10:19:51 PM
People dont like to lose, well, i dont in any case. And if i do, i'd BETTER lose to an stronger opponent, not due to lag! Simply put i HATE lag, i cant play with it, there's absolutely NO-ONE hosting a MM8BDM server with acceptable European ping, let alone people joining empty ones with good ping, and it makes it REALLY hard for people like me to play the game and have fun at the same time.

Considering the wide audience it attracts (2-4 servers full in the late time in my country), why are there no proper non-US servers!? As if only US people even know about Megaman, sheesh. Also, lagg is an extreme joy killer, especially if it prevents you from fragging people (aside them lagging instead and popping up at the other side of the map, heh).
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: saskrotch on October 18, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
start one or don't
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 19, 2010, 06:59:30 PM
Fortunately you didnt make any sense at all. Couldnt expect anything constructive from you anyway. Meh, idiots...

Hmm... Perhaps Cutman can arrange an Obsidian server for Megaman? Or any other non-US host, perhaps. And hosting myself rarely fixes the problem, people are too scared to join my high-ping (to them) server. You probaly are incapable of having a similar problem and trying to help others with it, so you just feel the need to be an rude idiot about it. Meh, some people... Too bad there's people like that thing on this forum.

Maybe to have an miracle occur and actually find a low-ping server or get people to join it... Oh, and its quite an problem, i hope Cutman can fix it, not all the Megaman fans (or simply those who like the game) have an good connection to the US. I dont think Unlagged built into the ST version helps either. High ping is high ping (thus lag) and you'll need some pretty impressive stuff or proof to make me think otherwise.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Mr. X on October 19, 2010, 07:07:52 PM
Quote from: "saskrotch"
start one or don't

Finish your sentence or don't.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: PressStart on October 19, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
There's no need to insult each other about this. This is a common problem with online PC shooters, and it mostly depends on if the user base increases or not. I hope you can find a suitable server sometime soon, CarThief, and I'm sorry if you can not.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 19, 2010, 09:10:12 PM
Ah, its those "Deal with it" people that deserve to be shot on sight, if not worse. Anyway, seems out sometimes hosting works, but... we TRULY need an dedicated server for the Europeans and whoever else has lag from the US servers.

Meh, hope Cutman arranges one, or they simply decide to make one, preferabaly with teams, being all alone against tops 31 other people is a tad... difficult. Not well suited for average DeathMatching, if one wishes to win or atleast frag a person before getting splattered by 3 people shooting at your back.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Mr. X on October 19, 2010, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: "CarThief"
Ah, its those "Deal with it" people that deserve to be shot on sight, if not worse.

What the Hell is wrong with you?  He said he was sorry you couldn't find a suitable server!
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: TERRORsphere on October 19, 2010, 09:50:40 PM
CarThief speaks so cold... But he's still right. I absolutely hate playing with a ping higher than 80.

We really do need a good Euro server. I wish Supergod gets his life back on track... so he can host the best servers ever again.


But a Grandvoid server would be nice. Or as CarTheif said, Obsidian-UK servers.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Mr. X on October 19, 2010, 09:58:36 PM
I mean, I know how he feels about laggy servers.  I'm in the US but have to deal with my college's horrible internet.  I usually have ping of 135 at the least!  I just don't get why he's so upset at PressStart when he didn't do anything!
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: PressStart on October 19, 2010, 10:24:04 PM
Thanks, Mr.X  : )

I'm really sorry I can not help more with the situation, CarThief. I have very little knowledge on running servers myself, and am in no position to get a European one started. CutMan's having to take donations just to keep the site running, so I don't think it would be fair to look to him for an immediate solution either. I just posted in hope that people would stop insulting each other.

Here's also hoping someone will come along and start a suitable server for Europeans as well.
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CutmanMike on October 19, 2010, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: "CarThief"
Hmm... Perhaps Cutman can arrange an Obsidian server for Megaman?

I asked but they're too full. Ironically they wouldn't take down even one of the two GVH servers they have up!
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: Korby on October 19, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
They HAD a demo server though.
Weird...
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: saskrotch on October 20, 2010, 02:30:18 AM
sorry, i always sound like more of a dick on the internet. it's the just the way i talk, but with out the vocal cues and such. take it with a grain of salt!
Title: Re: Damn laggy US servers...
Post by: CarThief on October 20, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
Ah, if it was misunderstood then my deepest apologies. Its quite a... stressfull thing when people seem to do that. Too bad my misunderstandings often involve admins, on their own ground, bah, bad memories... Oh well, i daresay the ST community overall is better then those people in the old days.

Hmm... They had a demo server? Why not take that down? Demo's typically suck compared to the full version, readily downloadable on Cutstuff, and doesnt take too long either, i think.

Edit: If there's big demand, i can host a server not laggy at all for say, 8 to 9 people (at 10 it starts to lag far more frequent). Though it might have a few lag spikes from time to time, and probaly doesnt Cooperate whenever i play WoW, it should be bearable and decent. Also nice for those liking small matches instead of 32 man deathmatches, i wanna win, not get mauled by 8 people shooting all at me! :P