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Cutstuff Discussion and Feedback / Re: Why yes, I always edit my posts after posting.
« on: November 20, 2013, 11:55:10 PM »Quote from: "*Alice"
Or maybe people shouldn't be stuck-up jerks over their opinions ... oh wait, I'm often guilty of that, too.Sorry about that. Kind of in "mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore" mode at this point. I'm also rather cynical on this subject because of prior experience with SRB2. And Saxton dominating not being a problem is highly debatable; it's not illogical to conclude that a large number of people playing one mod you may not like with no alternatives is going to alienate people.
Well, I, for one, don't care. I have the Skype contacts of the people in this place whom I would consider something along the lines of being close friends. There is nothing on the line for me, nor for the other people who don't create mods or participate in the creation of v4.
And Balrog, your comment was anything but constructive. All it contained was destructive criticism towards Ran and two entirely nonsensical suggestions about how to fix a problem that does not even exist. And you insulted a rather large number of people. For example: not being able to host does not mean being dumb, there are more than enough other factors.Quote from: "Balrog"You want to keep MM8BDM from dying? You need to evangelize and bring in people from other communities who aren't epic morons. But if we did that right now I suspect they'd be driven away by Saxton Hale people. Obvious response: get rid of the Saxton Hale people. (Yes, this is rather dickish, but more diplomatic solutions have failed, so it's "no more Mr. Nice Guy" time in my opinion.)Do you even realize what this paragraph says about you?
Small hint: It's nothing good. At all.
Quote from: "Orange juice :l"
Regarding the Jenova thing, that's why I mentioned drafting a formal letter: to establish a case for a genuine need as opposed to simple butthurt. (In case you don't remember, I was the one who had a debate about it at Tsuki's insistence.)Quote from: "Balrog"Petition Jenova to remove all Saxton Hale wads from BEST-EVER, as it poses a clear and present danger to the survival and growth of MM8BDM. Drastically increases the intelligence barrier for hosting and playing Saxton Hale, with the bonus of reminding people trying to play it that the forums exist. (If you want to do this, please don't just drop into the IRC chat and bug Jenova about it. I can draft an open letter that will actually briefly argue a thesis instead of just saying "We don't like these people, make them go away.")
IIRC, Jenova said something along the lines of "If we were banning wads/combinations of wads from Best-Ever for being cancerous, you wouldn't be playing MM8BDM on Best-Ever" in response to classton hale once, so good luck with that one
Quote from: "Alice"And Balrog, your comment was anything but constructive.
Not gonna lie, this whole conversation didn't have any base to hold any sort of construction from the start. This thread probably has 24 hours to live at most. And constructive or not, he's right, and he raises a point that effectively undermines the goal of the topic. It's not being a jackass, it's being realistic.
Also, it would be nice if you could elaborate beyond "he's right", OJ. Having an insight into your opinion would increase the chances of this thread not hitting the barf bag.
