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And also. Most times the one that calls the vote is Bik. Now, yes sometimes it is for no reason. I am guilty of several unnecessary votekicks. Why do I do it. Well. To be honest with you, it entertains me. Most times people vote kick against me I vote yes because that entertains me anyway.

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Yeah Gumball why did you ask me to change my name to yours? And also yeah, Red is right. One time HD disabled votekicking, then Bik came in and a bit later said "Wtf is this no votekicks" and left

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Quote from: "Gumballtoid"
MegaLAD just admitted to having trolled in the past (and enjoying it, mind you), and he's shown that to solve the problem, people need to change. To be perfectly honest, MegaLAD used to annoy the hell out of me. I'm sure he bothered you all, too. He caught on to needing to change, and he did so. Nobody likes making enemies (unless of course, you are a troll), and it's that much easier to avoid if those who are trolling stop what they're doing. If you're bored, go get a damn job. You don't need to ruin people's fun for your own entertainment. MegaLAD quit while he was ahead. Some others, however, refuse to accept what they're doing is wrong and try to hold on to that little bit of pride they have left. So, what happens in that event? They become enveloped in their activities, and end up making themselves public enemy number 1. That isn't fun for anyone. To be more specific, take myself for example. I used to troll the hell out of Daniel. I am fully guilty of that (although, some of it, Daniel deserved). Then, I took a moment of self-reflection. I realized I was being an ass to someone who didn't even speak english. So what did I do? I stopped while I was ahead. This, however, turned several of my old buddies against me. I didn't care, though, because I wasn't ruining anyone's fun time by being an ass. So what became of my old buddies? They were labeled trolls because they continued pestering Daniel. I'm not saying I like Daniel, because he still annoys the living hell out of me. I'm saying if he bothers you, use the damn ignore function.

We all know what the problem is; ourselves. However, what we need to ask ourselves is "What are we going to do to end it?", so I want everyone to think about whether or not they troll someone. Do they legitimately deserve it? Do you enjoy it? Chances are, if one is true, the other isn't. If you are trolling someone and you know they don't deserve it, you need to stop. If you don't, it's going to be very difficult to get yourself into a server to troll someone.

To all hosts: Make sure any moderator of your server is trustworthy and will not abuse it.
Everyone troll's Daniel. Boo Hoo.

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Quote from: "Sean Nelson"

Quote from: "Airman_Tengu"
That's been a problem even when I joined in late v1B. I couldn't talk without getting called a fag so I left for like half a year then came back, I've also witnessed probably 2 or 3 newcomers not show up again after being troll'd.

Actually yeah I remember I was in your server the day bik got banned because he kept telling you that your server sucked and calling you a fag and to go ahead and ban. So he couldn't have been there yesterday.

And also gumball that was me in shmeckies yesterday, not bik.

You're a huge part of the problem, whether you realize it or not.
Your actions are reprehensible and selfish.
I also find it ironic that you're trying to protect Pikmin from false accusations while trolling using Gumballtoid's name.

Sean, I admitted to trolling gumball. I'm protecting Pik from false accusation because he has barely done anything to you. Also, you didn't consider me a problem until I called you fat. And oh, I realize that a select few dislike me, but to be honest. You can't like everyone so hey, either get used to it or ignore it. I'm not changing for you.

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Quote from: "Ivory"
Just to point out, Sean Nelson is absolutely right.

I've seen many members pointing fingers at reasons for "the community dying", but honestly, the biggest reason is the community itself. As much as you can try to justify good nature "trolling" and "bad trolls". There is a problem acting that way at all. I'm not just referring to hurt feelings that can cause members to leave, I'm referring to newcomers. It's obvious we have lurkers on the forums, guests wondering if they should join the forums. We have players who join servers to try out the game. Do you honestly think most of them are going to join the community if they are being exposed to hostility, trolling, harassing?

Just remember, there is a difference between a good joke and being a jerk. Even if you think it's harmless fun, first impressions are everything. If you act that way on the server, what becomes of the MM8BDM Community? What does that potential newcomer see and say to his/her friends? "Eh, it looked good, but the community are all a bunch of jerks and trolls"
That's been a problem even when I joined in late v1B. I couldn't talk without getting called a fag so I left for like half a year then came back, I've also witnessed probably 2 or 3 newcomers not show up again after being troll'd

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Quote from: "Shmeckie"
Eh, I've always had a policy of kicking trolls and other jackasses from my server. Shmeckie's Classes server is a place for fun and good times. Mainly because it exists solely so I can play the version of MM8BDM I like to play during my breaks and time off, and after a hard day's work, the last thing I feel like tolerating is some bored kid trying to get a rise out of people. Yeah, I'm totally totalitarian, but it's a Dictatorship of Fun.

Bik's permabanned from my server (quite literally asking for it), and anyone who has nothing better to do but impersonate people and grief on everyone isn't welcome, either. That's my policy and I'm sticking to it.
Actually yeah I remember I was in your server the day bik got banned because he kept telling you that your server sucked and calling you a fag and to go ahead and ban. So he couldn't have been there yesterday.

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I think this topic is a load of hoo ha c:

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I'm just trying to avoid false accusations.

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And also gumball that was me in shmeckies yesterday, not bik.

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@ Gumballtoid: Most of your impersonations are from me.

@Sean: Pik barely did anything to you besides saying "go gain more weight" one time

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Sean I connected to your server under 2 IP addresses

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Sean I have a photo of my changed name so don't go blaming pik for today.

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Help & Editing / Re: HELP! I GOT BANNED!
« on: March 19, 2012, 03:15:10 AM »
You know, if you don't want to get vote kicked, then be more like... hmm... Oh I know. Hilman. That guy rarely talks at all and no one has any issues with him. Keep your mouth shut, no problems.

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Help & Editing / Re: HELP! I GOT BANNED!
« on: March 19, 2012, 02:58:17 AM »
Quote from: "Gumballtoid"
hmm... it doesn't seem to end as simply as that, proto
at shmeckie's server, i was kicked by, oh...
-red
-bikdark
-tengu
-nemu
oh, and what was that reason? oh, that's right...
"thank you for changing"
and the reason behind that?
i refused to troll fyone and lad when pik asked me to
so, let's look at this for a second...

refusal to troll lad and fyone + never instigating conflict towards anyone = being unjustly kicked

evidently, something in there went wrong
looks like this posse of players uses their numbers to "get their message across"
one of you care to explain? or is this going to become an issue?
i sure as hell aren't going to just take it

no, i was not able to get a screenshot, but i'll ask shmeckie to look through the console

Gumball. I didn't vote.

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