- The New Humans: Barbarian and Warlock are very annoying and really not much to counter them. Keep in mind I suck at GVH. Only counters I can think of while using the old classes are Creeper to a Barb [sounds like a bad idea but Creepers can kill berserk Barbs.] and Sjas reflecting the stupid homing fireballs of the mage. Not too mention when you pick Creeper the whole server turns against you and calls you "Creepfag." That is more of a player complaint anyway. The mage has too much resistance or whatever.
Call me out for being sterotypical but mages usually have low defence in games. Barb is a tank as expected. The berserk despite its drawback of lowering health to twenty-five afterwards somewhat stalls the game with those 5 seconds of invul to almost all attacks. Ghouls
SHOULDN'T have to be the ones running away for their lives. I mean they kill by closing in on the humans in most cases.
- There are examples of me being an ass about criticism but gee whiz no wonder why their ST topic got locked. Not saying that justifies my responses to criticism, in fact it doesn't.
- In an update there is this thing called the "Waterlog" which is an in-game changelog, defualt bind is "K." The idea itself is cool but there is a comment saying "GVH 26 will be recreated because the author has a negative IQ." Log of December 13th 2011 about tenth one down from the top. Yeah not cool at all straight up trolling there. If it ain't trolling then I don't know what is.
Here is some pics for proof.
This is the controls and as you can see in my Draw Co-op Info Choketeeth.
This is the first thing you see when you open the changelog up.
This is the changelog page I was talking about.
- File size is fucking huge. 'Nuff said. Not to mention Normal GVH is much smaller and still has the campaigns and bots. NS doesn't even have the GVH bots. A NS Hint/protip is: "Suck at the game play some duels to get better." I can't play GVH duels online since A: NO ONE HOSTS GVH DUEL, B: I can't host servers and C: Offline Skirmish is ruined since I fight Hissy, Deimos
and not Cannibal and Vileskin. The ST bots only use Marine. Oh and if I get a kill on the bots with whatever class I get an acheivement for Sjas about reflect killing a human. Way to go Nordic Saga team Great Job! >_> Fail tip is fail.
- The new marine weapon sprites suck compared to the original ones, except the machine gun. The new shotgun looks like it has two barrels and only uses one shell? Pistols are louder, now it molests my ears. Reloading the dual pistols what the hell? Same with Santa's Snow Gun and Engineer's Naiiiillllll Guuuuunn! (Sorry couldn't resist love WKUK) If anything has to reload the Mage's Ice Spell is the way to go. Seriously it is genuine spam.
- Hunter's Super Upgrade is a VERY VERY VERY Awful idea. Super Lightning Volley Ahoy. Getting blinded over and over sucks. Again I suck but seriously nearly every Hunter (ab)uses them. Really Hunter's arrows were fine no need to add four more. Seriously he already had EIGHT attacks. (4 arrow types and 4 magic attacks) Not too mention the fact that the Super Arrows do not slow your movement at all. It IS the same compared to holding down the "primary fire" key with Fire, Ice, and Lightning Arrows. Their only drawback is you lose the magic attack of the arrow type you use your power-up on. Sadly normal fire arrows are much easier to kill creepers with compared to their Super Version (for me anyways). Super Ice Arrows freezing ghouls seems useful. Yet with my more than guaranteed 6+ hours of NS experience their isn't really a reason to use them. I dunno maybe the players just use them to team up on a frozen ghoul. I only seen that happen 1-3 times. Instead they opt for Super Lightning Sniper Crews.
- The new classes don't really balance gameplay as much as they claim. Maybe in the aspect of Human Map and Ghoul Map win ratios but the new classes like I stated earlier have few counters. EX. Humans losing they switch to Barbarian and Berserk Hammer Ghouls to death. I seen it too many times.
- Jitterskull can heal :( the thing is hard enough to hit (keep in mind I suck at GVH) already. The healing isn't the same as Choke's where you heal from an attack hitting or Creeper's from getting kills. Well to heal as Jitter you have to get a kill first to get a "heal point" which by pressing item use you regain 15 HP. Sttillll, Jitter healing what is next Sjas healing?
-Creeper has a new ball that steals health plus stunning. Its original balls ONLY stun. Yeah people were pissed I kept on getting stunned but stayed at twenty Health. Gotta love 1v1 TLMS bouts that go nowhere for five minutes. I can understand why the health stealing balls have a cooldown. No damage stun/regular balls is madness.
- The game has some odd cult attributed to worshipping this Ivan Dobrovski character, hell atleast that is scarier than their worm. It is hilarious to see their "god" rage however. Not to mention their Chuck Norris Level Achievement is twenty kills in a map and their I think fourty kills now is some Ivan Level Achievement. Attention Chuck Norris fans. I, Uncle Lobsters want you to protest this insult. Also the cultists like to call each other maggots last I knew that was some Slipknot thing.
Hey man it was just a phase I had when listening to them, okay? Playing with egotistical players is one thing but creating an annoying cult like entity for one very egotistical player and endorsing it is just annoying.
- I like that you can see achievments when other people get them. Yet the fact that their are four to five of them with Metallica song clips makes me sad. Use some other bands. Also IIRC Satan's Sniper was a far away Blood Ball kill now it became two BB kills then four BB kills then six BB kills.
- The GVHNS Maps are not that fun. The Blood Episode 2 styled one is huge, plus creepers are damn hard to see on the snowy textures. The Shadow Warrior style map you can camp the hell out of it becuase of its size. GVHNS04 is actually somewhat fun. Choke Bumrush FTW! GVHNS05 is a mess. At first it was just this giant no man's land type map with the center actually having something to it. Now the No Man's Land areas have some poorly placed obstructions more like Cyborg sniper purches. Oh did I mention the fact you can hide out on the walls at the edges of the map. Now there are odd looking blocking walls so you can't traverse all the way around it.
- I hate to admit but the Choke Vomit is actually cool. In reality it is more like an extended chomp but the idea is still cool. You can't stop it until you run out of vomit points. That upsets me greatly. The animation for it is just a rehash, repeating the Blood Ball cancel animation. The main reason I like the vomit is the fact that the point counter goes up when you score a hit so I can tell when I score a hit a human. I can't hear the screams at times/the screams sometimes won't play.
-Grenade Obituary Needs fixed. I am not a coder but I have seen Alt-Fires have obits, so why can't you fix it?
- The new song choices for maps are meh IMO. Adding older versions of maps are might be cool for some folks but I really perfer the newer ones. Especially since Dark Station and I do not mix well. Not one of the maps I can actually "do work" on. Doubling the possiblity of playing a map I don't like is most definately a con.
- Cyborg breathing kinda annoys me since it makes it effects the ability to hear local Creepers. I play with music on one notch or totally off.
- The new ghouls while at first were annoying and very broken. Now they are more balanced. The thing is that one of them is an Ice ghoul. There already was Frostbite... The other one is a worm?!?! Are, you serious a worm? GVH is suppossed to have some scare factor going for it and nothing is scary about an overgrown worm that spits acid/stinkbombs. Oh shit, there is the overgrown farting worm. Everybody run! Yep.
- Only reason I play it is well no one else plays on other GVH servers. And the fact I live in America the only Normal GVH American server is an outdated one. (3b2) The other servers are an outdated Kazakhstan server and a Czech Republic server which I get bad lag online there especially with GL.
These are the complaints I can think of at the moment I spent a lot of time typing this If people get word of their behaviour I believe it will deter most NS players and If we get more true GVH servers up. Then hopefully we hear their so-called "superior vessal" sinking like the Titanic.
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Also for the water effects if you mean the swimmable water/deep water. You should check this out. This is how I learned how to do it. In the video it shows Doom 2 Mapping but it really doesn't make a difference. 
Oh and I played with Watermelon, Ivan, and Tor-Bjorn. I got into GVH and Skulltag as a whole a tad bit too late. I am nobody important but still. [insert some quote about the power of one] I heard of MM8BDM before GVH. Funny thing is I heard of it and Skulltag by looking on one of the Doom Wikis about the wad "Unloved" after watching Youtube videos about it in late May of 2011. I saw Megaman 8-bit DeathMatch and I was like "What the Hell? I gotta see this." In the long run it was a good choice. Then a community member basically told me how to play Skulltag 98D Servers so I could play GVH and Doom in general online a few months ago. What I am saying is maybe if I played GVH online earlier it could have had an impact. I mean new blood/fresh fish helps right?
