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Anything Goes / Re: General Offtopic Discussion

« on: January 26, 2016, 07:34:59 PM »

Congrats man, hope you have a

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Tutorial Collection / Re: [TUTORIAL] DoomSeeker for Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch

« on: January 25, 2016, 01:34:09 AM »

Could this topic redirect to viewtopic.php?f=44&t=10141 please? I wrote up both of these guides and this one is super outdated.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Class based modification (v8b)

« on: January 23, 2016, 04:38:39 AM »

Grenademageddon's fuse needs to, at minimum, allow a class with normal walking speed to get from point blank to outside the danger zone with at least a second to spare (before considering unfavorable terrain, slowing effects, or other hazards)

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Anything Goes / Re: General Offtopic Discussion

« on: January 17, 2016, 06:03:36 PM »

Show them this next time

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 17, 2016, 03:47:12 AM »

I figure the whole skip thing wouldn't be so cut and dry, ex. Sparkman would be less likely to appear gradually from 9 to 15(ish) players until it doesn't appear at all.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: The quoting game, feat. obsessed nerds

« on: January 12, 2016, 12:44:55 AM »

My observation about what's mostly played nowadays? Sure. That last bit? No, it's not, I deliberately said that specific sentence as a joke to show how I can use the same faulty reasoning in my own interests' favor by appealing to mayorities. That doesn't make it valid, or true.

This part makes zero sense. If a majority of players don't partake in Deathmatch, citing this fact isn't a fallacy that might conceal the fact that it's actually been super popular this whole time.

Of course, if your goal was to suppress this discussion by derailing the thread with personal attacks against me and Bikdark, you're doing a fantastic job.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 11, 2016, 10:40:17 PM »

The thread isn't being derailed, this is useful discourse with a secondary relation to the given topic. Regardless,

It's not practical to balance for every mode on every weapon

I didn't say otherwise and this has no bearing on my claim (for the record, not focusing on building resources around deathmatch). I don't have specific feedback on certain resources because this is an overarching issue that does not apply to a single weapon or map.

What I'm implying is that there would be much more enjoyment from the community if focus was placed on the modes that are proven popular as opposed to Deathmatch.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 11, 2016, 09:38:16 PM »

Who was that a quote of? I don't understand what you're saying.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 11, 2016, 08:27:35 PM »

The balance of the game is geared toward DM.  It's in the title of the mod for goodness sakes. ...

You say MM8BDM is balanced around Deathmatch but provide no reasoning as to why besides it being "the way it's always been", which doesn't hold water. Classes, (T)LMS, and Duel are all far more popular than Deathmatch despite- as we have been told- the dev team has, this whole time, been putting their efforts towards making Deathmatch the more fun mode. From this I conclude that either Deathmatch is an intrinsically unpopular mode or the dev team is far more capable at balancing around non-DM modes, even unconsciously. Considering there's been Deathmatch servers always available (shoutouts to BE) as well as organized events to try to rekindle its popularity, I don't think it's a matter of anti-DM culture. If there are other plausible reasons for this, please chime in.

If Messatsu speaks for the whole dev team, I can only conclude there is a divide between the wants of the devs and the wants of the players.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 11, 2016, 02:26:03 AM »

I mean, if the devs wanna build for DM, that's fine and all. They could also make ice slasher do 170 damage and block all people from eastern Europe from downloading the game. There's authority and then there's being reasonable, but you do you.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 11, 2016, 12:40:57 AM »

DM might be boring,  but if the game is about that,  there's not mich you can do. Of course I could all be wrong since my whole pov stands on that thin ice base.

Hello? Where in the Holy Bible of MM8BDM wherein there are requirements ordained by God Himself does it say that now and forevermore MM8BDM and all its maps have to focus on Deathmatch?

If it's not fun, not played, and not wanted, then focusing on it is stubborn and spiteful.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 10, 2016, 11:36:52 PM »

Poking back in to say that if all maps should be balanced around deathmatch first we wouldn't have CTF maps

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8BDM v5 - What maps do you feel need work? Pt. II

« on: January 10, 2016, 04:02:26 AM »

grab hyper bomb and spam it in the central rooms to win

The Hyper Bomb concern doesn't apply to game modes other than Deathmatch (inb4 terminator) so it's rather irrelevant.

For MM5WAV, I feel that the original (including speed controllable-bikes) could have been very good (outside of the homing weapons on such an open map) if a new mechanic was introduced: you have to keep your wavebike fuel up. This could be accomplished by gathering ammo on dry land, just getting it idly over time, or maybe even build them into the bike-dispensers. This way, players can't stall indefinitely on the water but can still use them to get around, collect the water-bound weapons, and fight on the water assuming they don't drag it out too long.

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Projects & Creative / Re: Class based modification (v8b)

« on: January 05, 2016, 05:56:28 AM »

The problem with such a class is that his viability changes dramatically depending on his opponent for obvious reasons. Of course, plenty of classes are inherently weak against others (a close-range agile class like flashman is gonna get bootyblasted by swordman, for example), but Galaxyman is a special case with his BHB. I had an idea where his bombs' sucking power would be proportional to speed as sort of a weight thing (yes yes even though gravity doesn't work that way) so that classes like hardman would be less fucked (especially how much slow classes struggle against his teleport+flight) whereas classes like quickman aren't an instawin scenario.

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Anything Goes / Re: Look who's back.

« on: January 04, 2016, 03:17:28 AM »

who are you