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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Rebirth++ Official Boss Thread)

« on: May 01, 2014, 05:50:01 AM »

@Legtendga: The changes that I just mentioned are already in R++. As far as damage output, Rebirth ++ will use something similar to Rebirth's A_Explode method, though the attacks are not OHKO.

@Linnie: MrL himself even told me that Rebalanced was more Classes-focused than Boss-focused. I guess that's everyone's opinion there to decide, though.

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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Now the Official Thread for R++'s Bosse

« on: May 01, 2014, 05:10:11 AM »

Well guys, I have some good news and some bad news...the bad news is that Rebirth is now dead. I won't go into details why this occurred, but the good news out of all of this is that Rebirth DOES live on in another SH mod...Stardust's ++. In fact, we have agreed to a new name for the new merged mod: Saxton Hale R++ (or Rebirth ++). While the gameplay is primarily the traditional SH gameplay, Rebirth's role in the merge mixes things up still. Among a few of the things that Rebirth had have been added to the merged mod:

- The randomized weapons
- The change in how bosses score hits (most now cannot OHKO)
- Rebirth's new boss and revised bosses
- Gilgamesh's voice clips (in fact he has an additional voice clip in R++ now)


So while Rebirth will now be archived, that doesn't mean I'm done with development for SH. I am kind of finding ways to fit in with the ++ team (along with a few of Rebirth's as well), and one role that I am keeping is that bosses can still be requested, it's just the background processes will be a little different. So, I will continue to review boss ideas and suggest possible boss ideas to SD. In fact, this thread shall be maintained for community requested bosses. Also, I'm considering picking up an old non-SH-project I had, so this thread will still have activity in it. So for those of you looking forward to Rebirth v2a, I hope instead the merged mod of R++ is worth the disappointment. At this time we are preparing for the final beta test, so the mod will be out very soon. Since I am a large factor in how R++ will get managed, I'll make sure that if you guys have any concerns that they will get heard. If you guys had any negative opinions of SD before, all that I ask is to keep an open mind and give her another chance. But for those of you that liked ++ anyway, then this update will be jam-packed full of new stuff. That's all for now, sorry to bring such a mixed bag of news, but I knew it was going to come to this anyway. I think this is for the best, though. It certainly reduces the true SH mods down to 1 (Rebalanced doesn't count and Unholy is kind of its own thing), so that's good. Hope you guys are ready for the epicness to come!

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale ++ domain)

« on: April 29, 2014, 03:55:29 AM »

Star will be adding a few new bosses...I forget the exact count atm. Rather, update v2a will have quite a few surprises in it. I'd go into detail, but there's too much to list, so you'll just have to wait. It should not be too much longer now.

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MM8BDM Discussion / Re: MM8bdm Player Profiles

« on: April 29, 2014, 03:51:02 AM »

Updating, cause why not.

In Game Name: TailsMK4 (too lazy to redo the color scheme, you know how it looks ingame)
Favorite Game Mode: TLMS, CTF
Least Favorite Game Mode: Terminator, DM
Favorite Custom Mode: Saxton Hale, Bot Apocalypse, Mafia, Mission Mode, Rage Roboenza
Least Favorite Game Mode: Rebalanced Saxton Hale, any other Classes Sax variant except for Unholy (I'm willing to stay silent about my hatred for any kind of Classes as long as they stick to TLMS and such), that 8-Bit Smash Bros. mod
Favorite Weapon: Ring Boomerang, Thunder Beam, Napalm Bomb, Scorch Wheel
Least Favorite Weapon: Oil Slider
Preferred Stock Skin: Gemini Man, Gyro Man, Bass
Preferred Custom Skin: Tails, Sinistar, Wario, GutsManG
Favorite Stage: N/A
Least Favorite Stage: MM7BUR
Favorite Class: MEGAMAN, Trickster (Unholy)
Least Favorite Class: Any classes from YD and other Classes mixed with Saxton in the past
Favorite Boss: Cave Johnson (++), Soviet Union Igniter (Unholy)
Least Favorite Boss: Dawn of Moodkipz (++), Shin Megaman (Unholy)
Greatest Rival: I pretty much have no equal...and my skill in the game has nothing to do with it.
Reputation: People are starting to come to me about ACS questions and such. Otherwise I'm pretty much known for being Anti-Classes.
anything else?: I dislike drama. We get too much of it lately in servers...

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Anything Goes / Re: How old is this community?

« on: April 20, 2014, 10:23:26 PM »

First time seeing this topic...so anyway, I'll be 24 in October. I'm one of the older players that plays the game, ironically (ok, may be exaggerating a bit about the number of people older than me, but still...).

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale ++ domain)

« on: April 17, 2014, 02:50:47 AM »

I'm not adding hales from ++ unless Star gives the ok first. For the most part her mod is mainly about the bosses, but the new update may change things up a bit. Since I got to see some of the latest bosses...v2a will definitely feel like an update. And yes, I do know that the changes to Rebirth may not make everyone happy, but I personally think that with the way Rebirth is going, it opens up new possibilities to make the battles more interesting. However, ++ still offers the same gameplay for those used to the other SH mods, and Unholy is really its own thing together, though TECHNICALLY it's also SH. But, since I'm also beta-testing ++, I also still support the traditional gameplay, and I hope that everyone will play both ++ and Rebirth, regardless of which one is better. I'm not here to make enemies by going away from the formula. Rather I personally think that Rebirth may actually have had a few people try out SH that didn't do so in the SilverSin/Balrog days. ++ still has great bosses, and Rebirth ought to get some popular bosses soon enough. I think even with this "divide" that both mods may even benefit from each other, and we are also somewhat involved in the other's version as well (Stardust is a beta tester for Rebirth as well). Whether or not we exchange a boss now and then is yet to be seen, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. You can count on both mods to still be around in the nearby future, though.

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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Saxton Hale Rebirth v1b released!)

« on: April 11, 2014, 06:47:35 PM »

Rebirth is back up primarily for research purposes. Please let me know if the server crashes at any point, and provide any details if you can. I'm looking into the crashing problem that still persists, but any other details you can provide me would be great.

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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Saxton Hale Rebirth v1b released!)

« on: April 08, 2014, 01:22:51 AM »

Well, I WAS going to do this last week, but I ended up having a hard drive failure, so yeah...time to get back to work. First I'll post the boss idea that I'm been thinking about. I won't suggest this unless you guys like the idea a lot, but I will just say right now that I pretty much know how to design this boss, though some particulars like health may change when testing this boss. I present, for a long time I have been waiting for this moment...my hopefully-soon-to-be-author-inserted boss!

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Name: GutsManG
Skin: Himself (squidgy617)
Other Graphics(*): Probably will need to design the claw sprite...
Theme: MM7OBOS and MM7FBOS if we should stick to 8-bit if we can, otherwise I could probably find remixes somewhere.
Description: Everyone thought that Mega Man had destroyed GutsManG for good, but right in the middle of a battle inside the Skull Tower, the robot suddenly appeared out of nowhere and crushed everyone inside. Now the robot has been seen rampaging the various arenas in the tournament. But...GutsManG hasn't yet fully recovered from his battle with Mega Man. Destroy him before he recovers completely!

GutsManG's battle is pretty much a polar opposite of Slenderman's. The boss must survive for a certain amount of time in order to be able to completely destroy anyone in his way. A timer counts down in the battle and the survivors must destroy GutsManG before time is up. If they fail to do so, GutsManG's Rage is activated and he repairs himself...when this happens, the battle is pretty much lost...but if the survivors do destroy him before time is up, then they win. It is still possible to win if the rage is activated, but it is doubtful.

Health(*): 175 per player, probably will need to adjust later.
Armor: Normal
Speed: Below Average
Main Attack: Claw Attack: The boss sends anyone in range of his claw flying upwards. Varied damage, but the highest will probably be set to 30.
Super Jump: Default Super Jump.
Rage: Self-Repair: GutsManG completely repairs himself and has increased Main Attack damage (varied, but goes up to 200 if direct), increased speed to around or higher than GOSMV2's speed, and highly increased armor (x0.1 or maybe a little higher). GutsManG automatically activates his Rage when the timer hits 0, and does not accumulate Rage at all.

More ideas to be posted later, perhaps. Anyway, back to the reviews...uh, for Smash's stuff I had to "snip" some of his entries primarily because Captain Falcon is already in and some others were bosses that Smash did not want added in after he posted it. So now that the list is a little shorter, first up is...

Barbatos Goetia

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Name: Barbatos Goetia
(HARD MODE ONLY) Hard mode is long gone now.

Skin: Tomahawk Goetia

Theme:

Sounds: Here

Health: Same as Saxton Hale, or higher.

Speed: Moderate.

Color Scheme: Already implemented in the skin. Give him dark greenish outlines though.


As seen here.

Attack: Slashes an enemy with a huge axe. It's basically a wider ranged Slash Claw that deals massive damage, but has a low rate of fire.

Secondary attack: Shoulder Dash. He rams his shoulder into the enemy, paralyzing them for a few moments while dealing minor damage. It also knocks them back quite a bit. (thinking of it now, it's like YD Knight Man's shield dash.)

Super Jump: Upper Slash. Not as high as Hale's jump, but it doubles as an attack that throws enemies skyward.

Rage: There are a few ideas here.

1: Genocide Breaker: Fires a huge Force Beam out of his axe.

2: No Items Ever!: He also gets a different rage whenever someone uses an item. Using it will either suck in anyone around him, or have him charge towards his enemy and beat the living daylights out of them. All while saying "No Items Ever!"
Or as OrangeMario suggested, "he should be given a separate rage bar for No Items Ever/make it a Auto attack that has him rip through everyone to get to the item user, stopping at a linedef that separates the floor from a death pit or something."
OR, an idea that came to me now. Two ideas, actually. The first of the two is to replace everyone's items in the beginning of the match with a duplicate. When one of those "duplicate items" are used, Either one of the two happens: (whichever works better)

Barbatos teleports right in front of the player, and murders him.
Barbatos himself "vanishes from sight". He is unable to move, or be hurt, or anything. People can also clip through him, (if possible) so that it gives off the essense that he actually teleported. Meanwhile, the item the person used summons a Barbatos monster or projectile or something, which proceeds to murder them. The item also freezes them, so that they can't get away. (Or not, maybe you can leave it out. But it's not like you could get away in the first place, considering how fast he moves in the original.) Once the deed is done, the monster vanishes and the hale returns. If anyone is standing in the place where he's supposed to be standing, Telefrag time.

The second of the two ideas is to either completely remove everyone's items at the start of the match. Since it's gonna be a guaranteed Hard Mode whenever you fight him, might as well. Either that or give him a special move/item/whatever, which creates an explosion that destroyes the items of whoever's in range. One time use only.

3: World Destroyer: Automatically respawns as using Exit Unit, and begins charging his axe with power while standing in one place. (Just to make it a little more balanced, he waits about 3-4 seconds before actually charging.) A timer appears, and the survivors have to beat him down until he stops. He takes no actual damage while charging, but has a separate bar to show how much more hits he can take before losing his rage. When he stops, though, he unleashes a non-lethal explosion that blows people back, just so he can recuperate. Oh right, and if the survivors don't beat him in time? Game over. He slams the axe down on the ground, creating an explosion so big that it wipes out every last player no matter where they are.

The timer should start at 160 seconds, or so. But depending on how many players there are, it starts lower. -2 seconds per player. The minimum is 90 seconds. This may sound high to some, but remember that there are often two phases to dealing with this for the survivors. Finding him, and stopping him.

It's up to you which one we should use, however, I'm voting for World Destroyer. A large forcebeam sounds scary, but it's kinda generic. Though if possible, I would love to get all 3 in there.

Oh geez, I may have to think about this one. Since this was originally meant to be a hard mode only boss, I may have to nerf him in some ways to make him fit well with the other bosses, unless I decide to go against the majority opinion and implement a Hard Mode option anyway (though any crippling effects this boss sets on players will be replaced with perhaps a buff or two somewhere). I probably would do the third option for the Rage, as it definitely would be VERY effective against stallers. I haven't decided yet on how to implement secondary attacks and additional rages, so there may be some work to do to get this guy started. Also, normally I'm not too interested in simply recolored stock skins, but...I don't know. I think I had rejected skins like these before in previous entries. I may talk later about the skin privately.

T.A.C.

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Name: T.A.C

Skin: (Undecided)

Theme:

Health: Very Low

Speed: Very Fast

Color Scheme: Black and Dark Green.

Attack: Weapon Thief: He steals a weapon from his enemy, and adds it to his inventory. He can use whatever weapon he can get his hands on.
Obituary: Player was robbed blind by T.A.C. (Player)

Secondary attack: N/A

Super Jump: Jet Pack. He slowly ascends upward, using the super jump gauge as a fuel bar instead of using it all up in one go.  

Rage: Item Scatter: Causes everyone in a wide radius to drop all their weapons and items, save for the Megabuster, and have them scatter all over the place. If he's fast enough, he can steal a lot of things. (He cannot use E/M tanks, however, and discards them upon pickup.) It deals no damage, however, closer enemies will be stunned momentarily.

I really have two problems with this otherwise decent entry. First, since a skin isn't listed, it's kind of hard to pick this one up. My main concern is the Rage, though. Maybe JaxOf7 may have an idea on how to do the rage, but because of the way inventory works in Doom, I cannot think of any other way to do this besides setting up lines upon lines of code that removes and spawns each weapon and item onto the area, and I even think my logic may still be incorrect there. The concept is otherwise interesting and unique compared to other bosses.

Rawk Hawk

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Name: Rawk Hawk

Skin: Undecided. (Though one might say Tomahawk Man in honor of the player of the same name)

Theme:

Health: Moderate

Speed: Fast

Color Scheme: Yellow and Orange

Attack: (I'm debating over having Charge Kick to compliment his slide attack, or just have a regular punch/kick attack. Only reason I'm debating over it is because some people might think it's a bit OP. Either way, it's a two hit kill, and he has a moderately faster firing rate than most other hales.)
Obituary: Player couldn't stand up to Rawk Hawk (Player).

Secondary attack: Somersault: Activated like Topspin. While in the air, perform a somersault and bounce off of enemies to deal about 40 damage. You're sent upward if you land a hit, in order to be able to combo. Takes down half the super jump bar. Overlapped by the Rage if the Rage Bar is full.
Obituary: Player was stomped by Rawk Hawk (Player)'s Somersault.

Super Jump: Ceiling Grab: Launches self skyward and grabs onto the ceiling. (Technically works like Gravityman's ceiling walk) While holding onto the ceiling, movement is slowed. The attack changes to shaking down junk from the ceiling in random places. (Falling Dust Crushers)
Obituary: Player got crushed by one of Rawk Hawk (Player)'s falling pieces of junk.

Rage: Sky Dive: "Time to RAWK!" Flips airborne, and takes flight. He has Rushjet type of flight, but a reverse recoil that keeps him moving forward at a high speed until he either hits a wall or an enemy, in which he bounces off into the air. (Comparable to YD Classes Blizzard Man.) The attack is instant death. When he bounces off, he performs a Somersault, and can bounce off of enemies again--except this time it takes down 80 damage. (And before and after using, he has to pose. =P)
Obituary: Player felt the RAAAWWK from Rawk Hawk (Player).

I wish a skin had existed of this guy...I feel this is the only issue I have with this entry since I want to avoid using stock skins if at all possible. I see no worries about using a Charge Kick-like attack since we can always adjust its damage output, and I feel that's more of his character than a default punch. The Super Jump turns into an offensive attack, though it is definitely more useful in maps with lower ceilings. Players may just find the move awkward when they needed a regular Super Jump, but they will adjust over time. I already have discussed in a previous entry that I have yet to determine if bosses should be allowed to have an alternate attack. I should discuss that with my team first before we start allowing alternate attacks.

The Ultimate Chimera - Originally suggested as a replacement for Slenderman, or at least another boss like him in which you have to run from. Info is a bit outdated, of course. And considering that the concept of Slenderman isn't too popular these days...

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Name: The Ultimate Chimera

Skin: The Ultimate Chimera (Don't quite remember who made it.)

Theme: On hold. (I need to look through the Mother 3 soundtrack. I never actually got up to that part of the game. ;_;)

Health: ????

Speed: Starts out moderate, but can accelerate to a rather terrifying speed while running in a straight line. Can't strafe well.

Color Scheme: Normal Chimera colors.

Attack: Chomp. The attack is slightly slow, and he has to stop to use it, but has frightening range. (due to it's huge mouth.)
Obituary: Player eaten by the Ultimate Chimera (Player)!

Secondary Attack: Roar. The Ultimate Chimera lets out a deafening roar which stuns everyone around him, allowing him to pick off the survivors. Doesn't do any damage, and takes up the super jump gauge.

Super Jump: The super jump is a great leap forward. If he hits a wall, he springs upward.

Stun Info: Like Slenderman, the Ultimate Chimera can be stunned. However, you cannot attack him head on. You have to attack his back in order to rack up the stun gauge. (Which takes half as much as Slenderman before actually getting stunned.) He's completely immune to explosives and AOE weapons, however, so don't count on that.

It is common knowledge now that Slenderman was changed in Rebirth to not be completely invincible, so I have no idea if this concept will even work now, since people disliked Slenderman's old behavior (as you pointed out). Probably safe to say at this point this won't get in, but I could be wrong.

Smash Daisaku

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Name: Smash Daisaku

Skin: Most likely M. Bison by LlamaHombre.

Theme:

Health: Moderate - High

Speed: Below Average

Color Scheme: Red and Black

Attack: Spiral Head: Randomly fires either one of two projectiles:
1: Fires a twin set of fireballs which fluctuate up and down (or left and right, which would probably be more practical.) Deals 50 damage each.
2: Fires a single homing fireball, which hovers upward before homing in late. The homing fireball is noticeably slower than the twin fireballs, but deals 75 damage.
Obituary: Player was roasted by Smash Daisaku (Player)'s Spiral Head.

The mainfire changes in mid-air to Bravoo Reg. It'd basically work like a shorter range version of Springman's punch, except he extends his leg to kick. Complete OHKO.
Obituary: Player was kicked out by Smash Daisaku (Player)'s Bravoo Reg.

Secondary attack: Bomb: Tosses a bomb that explodes with blue flames. Consumes entire super jump gauge.
Obituary: Player was blown to bits by Smash Daisaku (Player)'s bomb.

Super Jump: Jet Pack. He boosts upward and has a very short time to hover around in flight before falling.

Rage: After Burner: He performs his superjump and has full flight capabilities (with a constant forward thrust). In this flying state, he can toss down as many bombs as he wants. Using the altfire will charge up a spinning dash attack, which consumes the entire super jump gauge. Rage runs out after 60 seconds or so.

I've avoided having flying bosses since those tend to cross the line since they usually are hit to hit, but this at least is only noticeable when this guy is raging. As far as the skin, I'd prefer this guy have his own skin instead of reusing a skin that may be used for the M. Bison boss. That's really all I've got to say as the rest of the concept is solid.

Partners in Crime These characters are my own personal characters. Unlike Smash, who is more or less "Me", these guys are actually villains in my series and would fit much better as bosses.

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Names: Gladius, Avarice (and Ethelia) Walker.

Skins: N/A (if accepted, I'll have to make them.)

Theme:

Gladius Walker

Health: Above average.
Speed: Slightly above average.

Main attack: A slashing combo with twin daggers. Can attack up to three times before needing to cool down. Each slash does about 30 damage.

Obituary: Player was cut down by Gladius Walker (Player)'s knives!

Alt. Attack: Leaps upward in a diagonal arc while performing a spinning attack, ripping through any enemy in his path. Takes up half the super jump gauge.

Obituary: Player was torn apart by Gladius Walker (Player)'s Cyclone Shot!

Aerial Version: Throws his daggers down at the ground in the same diagonal arc. A moment after hitting the ground, they explode and return to him. The returning daggers are ripping projectiles. Again, takes up half the super jump gauge. Can be used in junction with Cyclone Shot.

Obituary: Player was blown to pieces by Gladius Walker (Player)'s Dynamite Dagger!
Obituary: Player was stabbed by Gladius Walker (Player)'s knives!

Super Jump: Much like the alt.fire, he leaps into the air while attacking, ripping through anyone above him.

Obituary: Player was torn apart by Gladius Walker (Player)'s Cyclone Shot!

Rage: Overlimit ~ Gains a type of super armor that completely removes hitstuns. He becomes much more agile, moving around as fast as Starman while being able to use his regular attack without cooldown. However, he takes double damage for as long as he is in Overlimit.


Avarice Walker

Health: Average.
Speed: Moderate

Main attack: Avarice's main weapon is a gun. The gun has four different types of ammunition.

Normal Bullet: Does about 50 damage, though has a random chance of doing 90.
Fire Bullet: Explodes on contact with anything, dealing about 60 damage.
Ice Bullet: Freezes enemies on contact, dealing around 60 damage.
Lightning Bullet: Rips through enemies, should take down around 70 damage.

The shots are fast, around Skull Buster speed, but have a big cooldown for him to reload. I was thinking that he would either shoot these randomly, or is given the choice to switch between them. If the latter, then he would take a few moments to change his ammo type.

Obituary: Player was shot by Avarice Walker (Player)!
Obituary: Player was burned to death by Avarice Walker (Player) Flaming Revolver!
Obituary: Player was frozen solid by Avarice Walker (Player) Freezing Revolver!
Obituary: Player was electrocuted by Avarice Walker (Player) Thunder Revolver!

Alt. Attack: A charging weapon. Anything less than full charge is a quick dagger stab which takes at least half the super jump gauge. The stab does around 80 damage. At full charge, he unleashes a barrage of slashes with the dagger, before switching to his gun to fire whatever bullet he has equipped (or random, if that's how it'll be.) He will be unable to move for the duration of the attack, and for a few seconds after it has finished. However, he becomes invulnerable until it ends.

Obituary: Player was stabbed by Avarice Walker (Player)'s Knife!
Obituary: Player was ripped to shreds by Avarice Walker (Player)'s Knife Slinger!

Aerial Version: Thrusts self downward while attacking with a head-splitting chop. Upon landing, he unleashes a small fireball that travels across the ground until it hits something, dealing around 40 damage. The chop is instant death.

Obituary: Player was gashed by Gladius Walker (Player)'s Blaze Strike!
Obituary: Player was roasted by Gladius Walker (Player)'s Blaze Strike!

Super Jump: Instead of a super jump, he has item 1's that take up the super jump gauge. Each one takes up a little bit of the gauge, allowing him to platform to where he needs to be. The item 1's last a little longer than usual.
Rage: Brilliant Thunder Blade ~ Stops to charge his attack, gaining an armor buff for the duration of it. The player should take the chance to aim, as it will appear wherever he fires. When unleashed, a small field of light appears on the ground and stuns anyone inside it, allowing several bolts of lightning to strike them. The finishing blow is a large bolt in the shape of a sword that stabs down and explodes. The explosion unleashes a shockwave that travels until it hits a wall, stunning anyone in it's path while doing small damage. Anyone caught inside the attack will certainly die by the time it's over.

Obituary: Player was annihilated by Avarice Walker (Player)'s Brilliant Thunder Blade!
Obituary: Player was shocked by Avarice Walker (Player)'s Brilliant Thunder Blade! (for the shockwave)

Ethelia Walker (May or may not be kept.)

Health: Below average.
Speed: Quick when in melee attack mode, slow when in ranged attack mode.
Super Jump: Summons a spring of water from below her to launch her into the sky. Water deals ripping damage to anyone near/in it.

Obituary: Player was blasted by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Geyser Boost!

Ethelia has two weapon styles: One where she uses melee attacks, the other where she stands and fires from a distance. When in melee style, she is able to move rather quickly, and attacks fast. When ranged, she moves slowly but has a small defense buff.

Melee
Main attack: An attack combo with her staff. Can attack up to two times. Each hit does 40 damage.

Obituary: Player was beat down by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Elemental Rod!

Alt. Attack: Spins her staff around in front of her, acting like a chainsaw. Blows away projectiles like Leaf Shield, and drains Super Jump gauge slowly.

Obituary: Player was knocked around by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Propeller Attack!

Aerial Version: Spins her staff around above her head, giving her a top spin radius above her and temporary flight for as long as the super jump gauge lasts. Drains faster than the ground version.

Obituary: Player was knocked airborne by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Copter Attack!

Rage: Lash out ~ Begins attacking furiously, swinging her staff wildly and recklessly in a violent barrage. Each attack deals around 10 damage, and fires out at around charge kick length, if not longer. After about 9 attacks, she springs forward and slams the ground, causing a small explosion which deals around 50 damage to anyone around her. She has completely free movement while attacking, all up until the last blow.

Obituary: Player felt the undying wrath of Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Lash out!

Ranged
Main attack: A charging attack. Uncharged is a small, water balloonish attack that moves straight forward. Half charged is a ripping water wave, while fully charged is a large tidal wave that carries enemies along with it. When it hits a wall, it does (literal) splash damage. Water balloon is 20 damage, Water Wave is ripping 10, Tidal Wave is 80 with splash damage but is otherwise harmless.

Obituary: Player was splashed by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Aqua Ball!
Obituary: Player was drenched by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Water Wave!
Obituary: Player drowned in Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Tidal Wave!

Alt. Attack: In the same manner as the main one, this is a charging attack for ice skills. Uncharged is an icicle shot that acts like freeze cracker with splash damage. Half charged is a barrage of snow and smaller icicles which freeze the target in place. Can be deadly if one is hit by the whole attack. Full charge resembles the uncharged icicle, with the exception of snow falling from it to indicate it's powered up state. When it hits the target, a large icicle (could probably go with the one that Evil Robot uses) forms around it, completely immobilizing it, then shatters after a few moments. The explosion deals lethal damage.

Obituary: Player was chilled by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Ice Shot!
Obituary: Player was frozen to the bone by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Freezer!
Obituary: Player was impaled and shattered by Ethelia Walker (Player)'s Ice Breaker!

Rage: Overlimit ~ Gains a type of super armor that completely removes hitstuns. Though she doesn't gain any speed, she is able to fire fully charged shots as much as she likes until it runs out. It only lasts half as long as Gladius' Overlimit, and she has a bit of a cooldown between each attack. Like her brother, she takes double damage for as long as she is in Overlimit.



Other notes: When there is only one of them left standing, the music changes to this.

This kind of blew me away at the complexity of this entry, just trying to logically think of how to model the attacks these three can do. As these are fan characters, I have no idea how well they will be accepted in the community. I'll keep this short: while the amount of attacks they can do definitely make them stand out from other bosses, I just do not know what other people will think of having fan characters in the mod. This will have to be a wait and see.

The Shadow Sirens

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Names: The Shadow Sirens

Skins: Undecided.

Theme:

Other Notes: They all move like old Slenderman, in which they clip to the top of floors and walls, with the exception that they can jump as well.

Super Jump ~ Veil: Hides in the shadows and can move around freely until the super jump bar runs out. Moving around in the shadows functions much like YD Classes Drillman's digging.



Name: Vivian

Health: Moderate

Speed: Average

Attack ~ Shade Fist: A simple melee attack that does around 25-40 damage.

Secondary Attack ~ Fiery Jinx: Causes everyone around her to suddenly burn up, dealing around 30-40 damage.

Rage ~ Infatuate: Confuses an enemy, temporarily turning them against the rest of their team. Works like a longer ranged hypno, and the effects only last for one minute. The 'projectile' that charms the enemy is a ripper, so it can catch more than one at once.


Name: Marilyn

Health: High

Speed: Somewhat slow

Attack ~ Hand Smash: Clobbers an enemy, dealing around 70 damage.

Secondary Attack ~ Lightning: Sends a bolt of lightning down in the spot she aims at, which deals 80 damage.

Rage ~ Lightning Storm: Charges for a moment, before unleashing several bolts of lightning down around her. Each bolt does 80 damage and stuns.


Name: Beldam

Health: Low

Speed: High

Attack ~ Hand Slap: A weak melee attack that does around 10-20 damage.

Secondary Attack ~ Freeze: Shoots a projectile that freezes an enemy in place. Deals around 30 damage.

Item ~ Power Up/Down: When used on an enemy, it slows them down while depleting a bit of their weapon energy on all weapons. (If possible, it should also make their attacks weaker.) When used on an ally, it buffs them up, giving them a strength boost and a rage rune. Effects last 30 seconds tops. Can only be used 5 times.

Rage ~ Blizzard: Freezes all enemies around her in a radius, dealing around 50 damage at most. Now is the time to make a getaway.



At random, Vivian will be replaced with Doopliss. He moves regularly, unlike the Shadow Sirens.

Name: Doopliss

Health: Moderate

Speed: Fairly quick

Attack ~ Head ram: Floats into the air, and then launches self forward. Impact with any enemy deals around 50 damage.

Secondary Attack ~ Weapon Copy: Copies the current weapon the enemy has, to add to his arsenal.

Super Jump ~ Flight: Floats up into the air, and gains temporary flight until the Super Jump gauge runs out.

Rage ~ Confusion: Causes every enemy to respawn 3 times in a row, in order to throw them off. (Any telefrags would be beneficial to him, unless his partners are involved.)

I've already asked Smash about this, but I am not sure if enemies that are stuck to the floor can actually jump. I will have to research that later. Other than that, the only thing that I am not quite sure how to make work is Vivian's Rage. It's a bit trickier now to turn against teammates since it is TLMS. For Ra Thor I resolved this by making new minions switch teams, but since this one is temporary, that will not work too well. I do not believe the rest of the attacks would be that hard to do, but since I am very familiar with the Shadow Sirens, I do not notice anything out of the usual, aside from Beldam's Item. I cannot think of a way at this time to increase or decrease a weapon's damage. We may need to revise that bit later.

NegaDuck

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Name: NegaDuck

Skin: Darkwing Duck (if not Negaduck, if I ever make the skin)

Theme: Pending

Health: 500 (+75 Per Player)

Speed: Average

Color Scheme: Yellow and Black

Attack ~ Chainsaw: Exactly what it sounds like. Swings a chainsaw for slash claw type damage. Hold it down and instead of a swing, it works like an actual chainsaw. Will need to stop to recharge after a while.
Obituary: Player was torn apart by NegaDuck (Player)'s Chainsaw.

Secondary attack ~ Shotgun: Pulls out a shotgun and shoots for long ranged sniping. Deals more damage at close range. Takes up the super jump gauge.
Obituary: Player was shot by NegaDuck (Player)'s Shotgun.

Super Jump ~ Grapple Gun: Works like a longer ranged wire adapter, except it can attach to skyboxes as well.

Rage ~ Galvanization: His rage gauge is twice as high as normal. However, the rage itself compensates for it, as he transforms into an entirely different entity with the same name: The Negatron filled version of Negaduck. The transformation blows away enemies, much like getting rage or cured in Rage Roboenza. It also causes a small explosion around himself, which harms enemies too close to him. He gains 500 extra HP, speaks a new entree quote, and gains an entirely new moveset, complete with a new rage. The transformation also triggers the Last man standing music, because yes, the situation has really become desperate; The transformation is permanent.


Transformed Moveset

Theme: Never Stop Fighting! (Last survivor music)

Speed: Fast

Jump Height: High, with low gravity.

Color Scheme: White and Black

Other: Has a constant spark shock animation surrounding him, to compliment his staticy nature.

Attack ~ Nega Spark: Conjures a sphere of white electricity to shock enemies in a radius. (Much like Ra Thor's Black Hole) Also fires a spread Spark Shock.
Obituary: Player was torn inside out by NegaDuck (Player)'s Nega Spark.

Secondary attack ~ Nega Lightning: Fires a spread Thunder Bolt, which separates into Thunder Beam upon impact with anything. The beams fire sideways and backward. Takes up the super jump gauge.
Obituary: Player was electrified by NegaDuck (Player)'s Nega Lightning.

Super Jump ~ Nega Boost: Creates a shockwave while super jumping into the air.

Rage ~ Mindless Destruction: Unlike regular Negaduck, his rage bar is normal. He spins around once firing Nega Lightning in all direction, sending electricity everywhere.

This guy would probably be a pain to properly balance since this sounded like a Hard Mode boss to me. What interested me the most was the Rage of the normal form. Bosses exist already that need more Rage to use than others, so that's not a problem. I do think it adds to the complexity of the boss to basically have two different forms, but it would be interesting regardless. The concept is otherwise solid, though we definitely will discuss the health of this boss later.


...Ok, that seems to be all of Smash's stuff. Now for the single entries...

Anyway, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED SOME UNHOLY IN OUR HALE!

Name: DEMON EYE TRIO

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Theme: Skull Feild (MegaMan Soccer)

Name: Devil Eye
Skin: Devil Eye (Badz)
Other Graphics: Demon Eye Skin (Badz?)
Description: 1.00 speed
Obituary "[Player] was KO'D by Devil Eye (Player)!"
Health(*): 150 (+100 per player)
Main Attack: Fires a solid beam of ripper damage out 1 yard
Super Jump: Standard
Items(*): 2 Hypnosis Units to turn people into Demon Eye gruts with 125 HP. Add 1 hypno every 5~6 players
Rage: Spawns a unit that fires off 6 tornados from the Evil Robot final boss fight in six directions.

Name: Try-Hard Demon Eye
Skin: Try-Hard Demon Eye (Badz?)
Description: 1.00 speed
Obituary: "[Player] was punched by a Try-hard Demoneye (Player)!"
Health(*): 150 (+120 per player)
Main Attack: Standard See Men punch.
Super Jump: Standard, does some damage on decent.
Rage: Player rises up, fires a large expolsion from him, net 4 seconds after initiation. Costs 500HP to use, heals 100HP per player killed, capped after 6 players. (Level 2 rage)
Obituary: "[Player] was smashed by Try-hard Demoneye (Player)'s Last Resort!"

Name: Dunce Cap Demon Eye
Skin: Dunce Cap Demon Eye (Badz?)
Description: +Forward, cannot stop moving forward at 1.05 speed
Obituary: "[Player] was charged at by a Dunce Cap Demoneye (Player)!"
Health(*): 130 (+120 per player)
Main Attack: A short, quick dash forward, causing collision damage as he charges
Super Jump: Can fly around for a bit, similar to Item 2.
Rage: Get's 6-10 shots of a Spark Shot style weapon to slow people down.

Very late April Fool's!

Oh gosh. I think I'll just leave it like this in the form of a popular expression: whatever happens in Unholy, stays in Unholy.

Actually...

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You need to RUN.

Hale: Red (NES Godzilla Creepypasta)
Skin: Red, by Hinatediz (although the running cycle could be better)
Theme: The heartbeat track from the story. It's available, too.

Description: Red works differently from the other Hales in that he only takes damage while standing still, and is invulnerable while performing his attack. Details below. As for how to defeat him, he's Health based.

Main: RUN - press fire to make Red charge ahead for a moment. Red is invulnerable while doing this, but the cooldown afterwards makes him stop, at which point players can lay the hurt on him. Just don't let your pride get the better of you, because you can suddenly get mauled for being greedy and shooting too much from up close or at mid range. Red can turn while standing still as well.

Alt: Hell Fire - Red fires homing fireballs that are pretty much the same as the ones the Wily capsule shoots. The difference is they can go through walls and hit players, although the damage is rather low and their distance doesn't reach too far. Because Red can't fit through some places because of being huge, this attack is meant to go into those places and get campers. It can't be used if the main fire is cooling down.

Rage: Spike Mines - Remember Ice Man's Icicle Rain? Well, this is that, except it can be aimed to where you want the Spike Mines to land. If they don't hit a player (and consequently mauls them), they stay on the ground for a while until they expire or make contact with someone, causing an effect like that of touching a Junk cube. During his rage, Red can move normally to allow better use of this move.

Note that Red even has voiceovers from the video version of the creepypasta. Pick your poison from the lines!

Bonus points if you can make it so that an orange mist covers the map when Red is chosen.

Award those bonus points already, cause I can just modify a portion of code for Slenderman and change the color. Kidding aside, you got something creative going on with the alt-fire, pretty much eliminating the need for the Super Jump...except if you charge into a pit. The main attack, though, sounds like you're intending for this boss to be like a tank. Those kinds of bosses may not work that well in Rebirth, but you never know...

While I wait for the skins I need to magically fall from the sky to post the remaining sketches I have, I decided to take a request from the community.

A Perfect Pair of Plumbers

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Name:  Mario Bros.
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  Oh, man...options.  I recommend using this demade M&L battle theme, but man...there are lots of choices.  Take SFX from Super Mario Bros. 3, I guess (I'd link but VG Resource appears to be down at the moment).
Description:  A simple little Duo Hale based on two beloved brothers.  I'm a little surprised no one's tried something like this yet, but whatever!  Let's go ahead and give it a swing.
Like always, Mario is a bit slower and jumps a bit lower than his taller, leaner brother; but Luigi has a bit of slipperiness to his controls (This can be forgone if too difficult) and has less health.  Also, if the Bros. Jump on a survivor, the jumpee should take massive damage—not quite enough to OHKO, but darned close.  Defeated enemies by the Mario Bros. should sometimes randomly drop powerups for them to use (Detailed in the items below).
* 150 is an arbitrary number; like health, feel free to tweak it for balance.


Mario
Health:  135 per Player
Main Attack:  Spin Attack.  Taken straight from Super Mario Galaxy, Mario throws his arms out and spins in a circle.  This does poor damage for a melee weapon, but it hits in a radius around Mario and knocks hit foes away.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump
Items:
> Fire Flower.  Mario powers up with the Fire Flower, giving him the ability to hurl balls of flame from his hands.  This functions similarly to the Fire Flower weapon crafted by TheBladeRoden, only perhaps with a damage buff (Because it's a Hale weapon now) and a nerf to the rate of fire (To make up for the new infinite ammunition).  Once Mario sustains 150* life points of damage, he “drops” this powerup and reverts to his normal form.  Limited use (Sometimes dropped by a downed enemy).
> Tanuki Suit.  Mario equips his old Tanuki Suit (Could just be a palette swap).  His spin attack remains the same, though now performed with his tail, but now, pressing main fire in the air turns him into a stone statue which falls like a rock through the air, and makes him invulnerable to attack until pressed.  Once Mario sustains 150* life points of damage, he “drops” this powerup and reverts to his normal form.  Limited use (Sometimes dropped by a downed enemy).
Rage:  Hammer Suit.  Donning a black-and-orange suit (Could just be a palette swap), Mario temporarily gains the ability to hurl hammers about.  For the duration of the Rage, Mario's main attack is replaced with a hammer throw, which flies up, then down in a gravity-based arc.  These are very powerful and have a decent rate of fire, so Mario had best use this opportunity to deal some damage.

Luigi
Health:  120 per Player
Main Attack:  Hammer.  Luigi brandishes a cartoonishly large hammer and brings it down in an overhead swing.  This has a narrow range, but is much much closer to dealing traditional hale-weapon damage.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump
Items:
> Ice Flower.  Luigi powers up with the Ice Flower, giving him the ability to chuck balls of ice.  Ice balls function similarly to fireballs, but do very little damage and  temporarily freeze foes in place, giving Luigi a chance to get in close and do some real damage with his hammer.  Once Luigi sustains 150* life points of damage, he “drops” this powerup and reverts to his normal form.  Limited use (Sometimes dropped by a downed enemy).
> Super Bell.  Luigi equips the new Cat Suit (Could just be a palette swap).  Like Mario's Tanuki Suit, the main attack remains functionally the same, though it's now replaced with a swipe with a pair of cat claws; but now, using main attack in the air causes Luigi to pounce forward and down like a projectile, dealing ripper damage to anyone whose path he crosses.  Once Luigi sustains 150* life points of damage, he “drops” this powerup and reverts to his normal form.  Limited use (Sometimes dropped by a downed enemy).
Rage:  Poltergust 3000.  Luigi whips out his old ghost-bustin' vacuum and flips it on.  For the duration of the Rage, Luigi's main attack is replaced with a large, holdable, far-reaching wind tunnel that pulls enemies towards Luigi as well as slowly draining health from them.  Enemies that get very close to Luigi will lose health a lot faster.

Obituaries:
Jump:  %o was goomba-stomped by Mario (%k). / %o was goomba-stomped by Luigi (%k).
Spin Attack (Normal):  %o was spun about by Mario's (%k) Spin Attack.
Fireball:  %o was roasted by Mario's (%k) Fireball.
Spin Attack (Tanuki):  %o was tail-whipped by Mario's (%k) Spin Attack.
Hammer Suit:  %o was clocked out by Mario's (%k) hammer.
Hammer:  %o was smashed by Luigi's (%k) Hammer.
Ice Ball:  %o was chilled by Luigi's (%k) Ice Ball.
Cat Claws:  %o was scratched up by Luigi's (%k) Cat Claws.
Cat Pounce:  %o was ambushed by Luigi's (%k) Cat Pounce.
Poltergust 3000:  %o was sucked up by Luigi's (%k) Poltergust 3000.

I'm rather proud of this one; unlike Dark Bowser, it well represents the Mario series as a whole, and in general seems to be fairly sound.  I particularly like the item-pickup mechanic, though that needs playtesting to prove whether or not it's fun.

I do like the idea in general. There will be some more sprite work needed for this, but I think it would be a great addition to the mod. Really the only thing I didn't particularly care for is not in the design itself, but rather the theme. This particular theme is cheery, when something closer to a boss theme would be more suitable, imo.


Whew...I think we may have enough designs to go around for a little while, but you guys are always welcome to post more if you so desire. We had a lot of boss requests...35 in total. And upon searching all of the requests we've had so far, I realized I missed a redesign of one of the bosses by idiot9.0...

I'm going to try what I did before and and try to rework one of those hales. This time it's for Goku, and it's rather minor but it does have a few differences.

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NAME: Goku

SKIN: I haven't looked if there is one. If not I'll attempt to make one.
THEME: Boss Battle theme from one of the DBZ games on NES.
HEALTH: 150hp per player

MAIN FIRE: Goku's main fire has 3 charge levels. You charge it by simply holding the fire button. Attacks charge at a medium-high rate.
0%-20%: Basic Punch - Goku will throw a punch. This punch will push him forward a small bit. Does 50hp damage.
10%-99%: Ki blast - Goku will shoot out a high-speed ki blast. It's damage rate depends on how much Goku charged it before release, with lowest being 20hp to highest being 70hp.
100%: Homing Ki blast - Similar to the normal Ki blast, but instead will home in on players, similar to Magnet Missle. Takes 80hp damage.

Since the attacks charge quickly Goku can decide to either risk close range for quick, strong damage, shoot many small-damage blasts, or charge a strong homing blast but be vulnerable to attack.
(If the charging can't be done just the punch as the main attack and the Ki blast as a secondary, with a medium fire rate and energy bar)

SUPER JUMP: Flight - Goku's able to fly through the air as long as the s.jump key is held down. If used all at once, the flight lasts about 4 seconds and reaches a tad bit higher than a normal s. jump.
However, The flight consumes the jump bar instead of using it all at once and only gets consumed if the key is held down. This allows Goku to fly over large pits with well-timed key presses.
Also the s.jump bar won't refill unless Goku's on the ground. Obvious but needs noting.

RAGE: Kamehameha - Goku charges up and releases a Kamehameha blast. The blast spans the stage and is large but can be jumped over if timed well. Upon release, it lasts 5-8 seconds on screen. Touching the blast does 20hp, but does ripper damage so being stuck in it can KO. Goku can turn the blast during this at a medium-slow pace. If this rage is activated in mid-air, Goku will stay in the air until the attack is over. Goku is still vulnerable during the duration of the attack.

This is a better design for Goku. I will need to say that 20 damage and ripping pretty much means stepping even a tiny bit inside the blast means instant death. Even 1 and ripping can be fatal. The Super Jump may be the trickiest part of this to design, but otherwise this is actually pretty good. Don't worry, the main attack being chargeable is completely doable. Just think of the different levels of Atomic Fire. Now I think this is really close to Goku's design in the games, though without all of that crazy extra power he gets later in the series.

NOW this is done. I think at this point I'm ready to suggest a few ideas to the devteam...

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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Saxton Hale Rebirth v1b released!)

« on: March 25, 2014, 05:17:19 PM »

All right, time for the next session of reviews...and when we resume working for v2a, I'll make some recommendations. I also have a boss idea of my own that I could probably create on my own, but I'd like feedback on it. First, the other bosses:

I want to go ahead and try to rework that Sakuya idea. I like the idea of her being a long-range boss but how she was put she seems like a Dio Clone. So here's my attempt at it.

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NAME: Sakuya
SKIN: Sakuya by whoever made it.
THEME: Either Night of Nights 8-bit or Flowering Night PC98 rendition

HEALTH: 150hp per player

MAIN: Triple Knife Spread - throws 3 knives forward in a spread formation. Each knife does about 35hp. Can be fired at a medium rate.
(Note: I'm terrible with damage amounts so I just kinda BS'd them to what I seemed fair. Feel free to raise or lower amounts as seen fit.)

SUPER JUMP: Teleport - Sakuya simply teleports to a higher spot, similar to how Dio does. Same jump height as a normal super jump, if not higher. (If possible, she can float mid-air once she teleports for a brief second, allowing her to attack before falling)

ITEMS: Since she is a Touhou boss she has many attacks and such her items should reflect that. All the items run on one shared energy bar that refills over time at a medium-slow rate
Delayed Knives: Fires a standard attack in front of her, but they freeze for about 1 second in front of Sakuya before firing like normal. Useful for trick attacks. Does 35hp damage like a normal attack. Uses 25% of the energy bar each use.
Spellcard "Luminous Ricochet" - Throws a knife forward. The knife moves at a high speed, leaves a purple trail (if possible) and ricochets off walls for a short time. The knife does 25hp and bounces off players if hit. Takes up about half the energy bar. Can have 2 out at a time.
Spellcard "Eternal Mist" - Throws knives forward in a spread-like formation, similar to Bass Buster but a wider range. Throws knives for about 4 seconds. Each knife does about 20hp damage, depending on how far you are from Sakuya. Takes about 75% of the energy bar.
Dash attack: Sakuya dashes forward swinging her knife. For those who can't danmaku. Does about 40hp damage. Takes 20% of the energy bar. Has a short cool down to prevent constant dashing. (cool down can be removed if needed)

RAGE: Spellcard "Private Square" - Sakuya does a variant of this spell card. When activated, time slows down (Read: Slows down, not stops). While time is slowed, Sakuya freezes in place, a circle of knives surround her, and are shot off in a medium-high speed. Each knife does 75hp damage. The knives ricochet off walls once before disappearing. Until the knives are shot off Sakuya cannot take damage. (This can mean a KO from point blank due to multiple knives hitting you, but you are able to dodge the attack if you are far away enough or can jump right)


...I gave it my best shot.

While I feel the items are still up for debate, of course, the rest of her seems pretty good. I may knock down the items some since it sometimes is confusing enough when you have one extra item with bosses like Ra Thor. I mainly wanted to see what the rage was like, and I feel this is doable to an extent. It would be easy to slow down the players, but probably not the elements of the stage itself.

Sorry to crash the party, but if boss submissions are still open, I have been holding this one for a long time.

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Name: Super Metal Sonic
Skin: Metallix's Metal Sonic, I got his consent already. Anyways, Blue=Gold, Cyan=Yellow, possibly a red outline, but keep the black eyes with red irises; While vulnerable(see below), he turns blue, outline turns black.
Other Graphics: Chaos Ball, Hyper Mode sparkle effects, Metal Sonic HUD, probably a ball mode or smoke particles for the vulnerable mode.
Theme: Not sure on this... Maybe something like Doomsday Zone or Stardust Speedway Bad Future JP(or the Generations remix)(Should I link those?)
Description: After surviving his previous defeat, Metal Sonic goes solo again, looking for power. Then, he found some energy which gave him a new Super Mode. He used his new power to space-travel for perfect training dummies, which happens to be the Second Robot Tournament, as it is full of combat robots. Now, the participants have to take down this monster before he destroys everything.
Due to his new power, Super Metal Sonic has a unique gimmick. He is immune to the survivor's weapons, taking hits still fills his rage, and the rage activates itself. The only way to deal a scratch on him is to wear him out by forcing him to rage.(more detail below)

Health: Not sure, but it should be very low to compensate for his gimmick.
Main Attack: Chaos Ball. Powerful energy sphere projectile which deals fair damage to the poor victims. "%o was destroyed by cfSuper Metal Sonicc-(%k)'s Chaos Ball!"
Secondary Attack(I'll throw this in since rage is auto-activate): Spin Dash. "%o was shredded by cfSuper Metal Sonicc-(%k)'s Spin Dash!"
Super Jump: Spin Jump. He can still preform a basic spin jump like his organic counterpart. Deals damage when ascending or descending. "%o was broken open by cfSuper Metal Sonicc-(%k)'s Spin Jump!"
Items: N/A
Rage: Hyper Metal Mode. After absorbing enough impact and energy, Super Metal Sonic loses control as he goes into a nigh-invulnerable state, and dashes forward, tearing apart all in his way, and he also leaves behind a damaging sparkle trail as well as about 3 stronger homing Chaos Balls. "%o was terminated by cfHyper Metal Sonicc-(%k)!"
However, right after, he loses his energy, turning to a helpless state to recharge for a few seconds. This mode is signified by the weakened Metal Sonic turning back to his original blue, and he is unable to move or attack in this state. This is the perfect time to strike him down! Naturally, after this state, he goes back to Super Mode like normal. The rage should also fill a bit faster for this very reason.

-If the gimmick is impossible to code, feel free to reject.
-Do I need to contribute to stuff like sprites or coding myself?

The gimmick itself is possible to do, let me just get that out of the way. While the boss idea is pretty good, this is a little beyond the current knowledge of boss-making that I have, so if this does get in I may need help from someone on the devteam to make this. I'm not sure yet if I'll allow a Secondary attack since none of the other bosses have one, since having an alt-fire attack kind of complicates the boss design, and the sudden activation of the rage can catch some players off-guard if they are facing a pit as the rage turns on.

I've also a lot of hale ideas.

CHEETAHMEN FOR HALES !!

Here's one :

Goku (aka Super Sand Legend):

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Skin : If there's no skin made for him,then you can use Mega-Man-without-his-helmet.
Main Fire : PAWNCH !! (he just puts his fist between your eyes,takes a photo and makes fun of your flat face with his family).
Secondary Fire : Energy took on either the Rage bar or S.Jump one.He fires a homing energy blast which kills in 3-4 hits (camper blaster).

S.Jump : Classic Super Jump (or make him dash if you want),with the DBZ Teleport Sound.

Rage : SUPER SAIYEN MODE : can fly,energy blasts uses less energy and he is faster.If the S.Jump bar is full,he can use the Kamehameha (or you can just put the Kamehameha on rage if Super Sand Mode is too cheap).

Obituaries : %k was sent into the nearest wall bycfGoku c-(%o)'s Saiyan Punch !
%k wasn't hidden enough for cfGokuc- (%o)'s Energy Blast !
%k's body was desintegrated by cfGokuc- (%o)'s Kamehameha !

Yeah,I know,being retarded is an art...

Yeah, the nature of the show where Goku is from makes him kind of hard to fit in here. Doing the Kamehameha as a rage would probably be the best representation, but it may give him the same problem as Captain Falcon with his rage. I personally have issues with the transformation rage, though at least Goku can still take damage unlike Sonic's rage in Hyper. I kind of want to stay away from that kin of rage, hence why I thought one of Goku's signature moves would be better. I honestly feel that there would be a lot of debate about how best to get this guy in. I'll wait to see if people come up with more ideas for this guy.

Boss Submissions for this mod Go!

Dr. Doom

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Name: Dr. Doom
Skin: Darkman 2 (for now) (Colors: Blue: Dark Green(134) Cyan: Gray(84))
Other Graphics(*): Could probably come up sprites for hud and photon shot/array projectile sprites.
Theme: MvC3 or MSH theme. original versions (unless someone can some up with a good 8-bit rendition)
Description: It's Dr. Doom, Dictator/Leader/Ruler of Latveria, came to conquer this this tournament in his name. (Couldn't come up with a good story)

Health(*): 190 per player (Armor: uh... maybe green armor not sure Wish I could know where to find armor values)
Speed: below average: x0.6
Main Attack: Photon Shot: Shoots a 5-way (If not possible, than 3-way) projectile from his hands these do slight damage like maybe around 20 or 25. (Damage Type: Piercing)He also has the molecular shield (which acts like a cross between junk shield and ice circle) which is activated by alt. (Note: when using the molecular shield, you are stopped in place when the shield is up) The rocks themselves do some slight ripping damage.
Super Jump: N/A
Items(*): See Sphere Flame below
Rage: Photon Array: Shoots 4 waves of Photon Shots around him. Activated Via Main Fire
Sphere Flame: Shoots a flame upwards which drops 6 large flames from it. 3 flames in Front, 3 in Back. Activated Via Item. Could go with either rage if two is too many.

Also have a revamped Doom Marine

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Name: Marine
Skin: Halloween Exapansion skin bu Rukifellth (with permission granted when this boss is being made) Color: Cyan: Green (similar to doom/doom 2 default color) Blue: Tan (palatte is similat to player coloring in doom/doom2)
Other Graphics(*): could 8-bitify the rocket and bfg projectile sprites
Theme: Running From Evil, Doom 2
Description: After escaping hell and slaying the demon army, the marine finds himself in need of stress relief from the attack. Soon he finds a bunch of bots attacking each other, and well you get the idea.

Health(*): 250 per player (Armor: Around Green Armor value)
Speed: Above Average: x0.9
Main Attack: [(Main)Pistol: Weakest weapon out of his arsenal but pinpoint and fast.] [(Alt)Shotgun: Medium ranged weapon out of his arsenal. Can do some nasty damage at point blank but piss damage from afar. Has medium speed and delay)
Super Jump:N/A. His attacks are hitscan, which makes up for the lack of a super jump.
Items(*): Rocket Launcher: Second powerful weapon in his arsenal. The rocket itself is slow but is powerful. Rocket launcher can damage the marine at point blank. The rocket launcher has a small delay between uses, to avoid spamming. Works like source.
BFG9K: See Below.
Rage: BFG9K: projectile acts like how it in source but with a smaller range. Also only two shots are used(Think Time Slow's uses). Activated Via Item Use.

As you noticed these suggestion are different from the usually formula, thats the idea to give these bosses variety instead of the cookie cutter design the others have. Also tried my best with these suggestions. also feedback would be appreciated.

TFP, I already know you're pretty upset regarding the super jump, but the point is that the bosses need a way to catch campers on stages like Crash Man, or the match can go on forever. It DOES not have to be a super jump, but it can be something like perhaps giving your Marine something like a grenade with good explosion range that can be launched high in the air. Just launch it into one of the holes, and bingo, you killed a camper. You just need to be creative is all. Anyway, regarding your bosses, Dr. Doom seems to be designed to be a tank. I don't know the exact value for Green Armor, but the fact you're suggesting armor means that this guy may need to be even slower than Gilgamesh to balance out the health and armor. That tankiness probably wouldn't work that well in Rebirth, since what's the use if you can't even catch people? For rages, I personally would go with the second rage since the first rage really is just spamming the main attack in all directions. For the Marine, this boss honestly is very powerful as is. Another tanky boss, with pretty much the combination in abilities of Quote (as in having a powerful weapon, not necessarily chargeable) and Curly (weak but fires many bullets). And eventually, this boss will start to outrun players in Rebirth, so I think this guy will get some significant nerfs if he gets in.

Wait, you are taking Hale Suggestions? Well then, I shall suggest one then.

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Name: Allen O'Neil
Skin: Well until someone can make a sprite for him, its going to have to be a placeholder

Hit points: 120 for each player
Speed: 110%
Armour: Normal

Primary attack: M60: Fires a barrage of 4 extremely fast moving projectiles that do 25 points of damage each. Rather slow refire rate.

Rage: Grenade Barrage: Allen O'Neil begin's chucking grenades at his enemies. Grenades do sizable damage (50 damage) and have a sizable blast radius. He'll throw grenades for about 5 seconds at a rate of 2 grenades per second when the rage is activated.

Super Jump: Absolutely none. Instead, Allen O'Neil is able to summon up to 3 Bazooka Soldiers to help support him. Bazooka soldiers have 200HP each. Their gun fires a projectile comparable to a rocket that explodes doing 10 points of direct damage + up to 20 splash. The projectile has a medium splash radius. They will also attack with a knife lunge if the enemy gets close enough. The knife lunge has short range, but does considerable damage (50HP).

Obituaries: M60: "(Player) was riddled full of holes by Allen O'Neil's(Hale) M60."
Grenade barrage: "(Player) was turned into chunky salsa by Allen O'Neil's(Hale) Grenade."
Bazooka Soldier: "(Player) was blown to smithereens by a Bazooka Soldier"
"(Player) got the business end of a Bazooka soldier's Knife lunge."


Theme:

Let's not forget that your boss currently is unable to deal with campers, but as for the rest of it...I personally like the soldiers in the MS series myself. It also would be very easy for me to do a check to see if their target is right next to them. Honestly the boss is pretty good, but cannot overlook the fact the boss is missing a skin and a suitable alternative to the Super Jump. The soldiers and rage MAY be able to get campers, but the grenades would need a large radius to them.


I'll review Smash's stuff later and add in my boss, as this post is big enough as is, and I get a lot of lag typing in this. >_>

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Projects & Creative / Re: Stardust's Workshop (The Saxton Hale ++ domain)

« on: March 13, 2014, 11:49:36 PM »

I will just say this to avoid any confusion regarding my mod: I currently do not have permission to use the bosses from ++, and never will unless Stardust gives her approval. My stance has changed after talking with her some more regarding her hales.

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Projects & Creative / Re: [Map Pack] SHARP (Version 3a)

« on: March 12, 2014, 04:49:44 PM »

Well this sure happened out of the blue. I'll have to update my servers later to include the updated sharp maps.

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Projects & Creative / Re: TMK4's Workshop (Saxton Hale Rebirth v1a Official Releas

« on: March 12, 2014, 01:52:52 AM »

So my analysis is finished, but even if I speak posititvely about a boss, it does NOT mean the boss is going to get added in. Anyway, bosses from ++ are rejected because Star wants to wait until ++ v2a is finished before the two of us discuss about any of her bosses. As for Hyper...I didn't have a very good opinion of all of ++'s bosses minus one. But I will attempt to judge them as fairly as I did the new bosses.

What I will say is that quite a few of these bosses failed what I will coin the "Crash Man test". To get an idea of what I mean, take a look around at all of the places players could hide in Crash Man's stage. Your boss MUST have an ability that can reach even the highest hole, because the players definitely can go up there even with Item 1. If it fails this test, I can't even consider the boss. This is just ONE expectation I have for upcoming boss requests, though. Because I have personally seen what bosses work and what fail, I have to be brutally honest at times, so if I end up coming off as a jerk, which I try to avoid doing, then it just means your idea was not that good at all. I really want to see good bosses from the community, so if there are any that score well on my critical analysis, then the boss will be up for debate with my dev team, and I may not even be the most critical on the team, so keep that in mind...anyway, let's begin.

The Horseless Headless Horsemann

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Name:  The Horseless Headless Horsemann
Skin:   (Whenever you see one of these for a non-core skin, you can click it to go to the download page.)
Theme and Sounds:  The theme of TF2's Halloween season will do the trick just fine.  All voice clips can be found this-a-way.
Description:  Not much of a story to this one; it's a pretty clear-cut port of HHH except for the addition of Petrify.  He's always been one of my most favorite bosses in the original VSH (Demopan being my most favorite ever forever).  I really don't care if he gets in or not.

Health:  200 per Player
Main Attack:  Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker.  In his cold, dead hands, this haunted axe's power is legendary.  It OHKOs, but there is a small delay between the user clicking to swing it and the swing actually taking place.
Super Jump:  Teleport. Upon using this, the HHH will warp to one of the survivors left. However, this takes much longer to recharge than a standard super jump (about 50 seconds), and the HHH cannot swing his axe for a brief moment after teleporting.
Items:
> Petrify. The HHH paralyzes all opponents within a short radius of him in fear, keeping them from moving at all for a brief moment. The HHH will only have about enough time for one Headtaker-swing before his victims are freed, and it takes a while to recharge (100 seconds), so he had better be careful not to waste it.
Rage:  Big Scare. The HHH shouts a loud, bone-chilling "BOO!", scaring everyone on the map into walking at a small fraction of their normal speed for a short time. During this time, it's ideal for the HHH to chase down his slow-moving foes, taking their heads while they cannot run as fast as they'd like.

Obituaries:
Headtaker - %o lost his head to the Horseless Headless Horsemann's (%k) Headtaker.

(Yes, I'm keeping the Obituaries.  You can't take those away from me!)

In this system it's kind of counter-intuitive to have this guy when we have been focusing on making sure bosses can deal partial damage if their attack is not direct. However the idea in general is pretty good, though if we were to follow the format of Versus Saxton Hale, this would have to be Horseman Jr. since the other version only appears during Halloween time. Btw, custom obituaries are fine as well, though I personally would just remove the part just after the name of the one controlling him. Also, I personally feel his health is too high.


Spiked Wall Man

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Name:  Spiked Wall Man
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  The best theme I can come up with is Mega Man II (GB)'s Boss theme and that's the only place I can find it.
Description:  Spiked Wall Man was honestly one of my silliest ideas.  I heard the community joke about a Spikedwallman Hale once, and I just made it happen as well as I could.
He is supposed to have a bit of a gimmick to his movement—Spiked Wall Man has constant forward propulsion, as if he were sitting on top of an old-school Wave Bike.

Health:  175 per player
Main Attack:  Spikes.  Spiked Wall Man is a little different from a normal boss. Instead of having a weapon with reach, he simply always has his spikes ready. Anyone who comes in direct contact with Spiked Wall Man instantly dies.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump.
Items:  N/A
Rage:  Spike Scatter. Spiked Wall Man blasts a few spikes off of his wall, scattering them over the map. These spikes do not vanish, so players will have to be careful not to trip over them while evading Spiked Wall Man's charges.

Obituaries:
Spikes - %o was skewered on Spiked Wall Man's (%k) Spikes.
Spike Scatter - Spikes - %o tripped over one of Spiked Wall Man's (%k) Scattered Spikes.

Simple design, which for my experience with bosses makes this appealing work-wise. This boss IS rather memeish, but it does make for an interesting battle. Health seems about right.

Copy Robot

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Name:  Copy Robot
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  MM1BOSS2 should work, unless people want something more exciting.  The following song can be found in Ivory's map pack.  Alternatively, we could use the song RushJet1 made for him.
Description:  If you've known me and my Hale sketches, you know that I try to make the majroity of them do something new and interesting.  Copy Robot's new and interesting thing:  weapon stealing.  Whenever Copy Robot kills an opponent, he steals the weapon they were using, replacing whatever weapon he currently has equipped in a way similar to the Copy Beam. It would be neat if he could also steal the skin they were using (Keeping his glowy green outline), but if that's impossible, it's understandable.

Health:  175 per Player
Main Attack:  Copy Beam. Copy Robot fires a tiny bolt of lightning from his buster that does no damage. If it misses, he is able to fire it again. This weapon does use hitscan, and if it hits an opponent, he copies them and their equipped weapon becomes his permanent weapon (Copy Robot has infinite ammo, so no worries).
Super Jump:  Copy Rush Coil.  A shady version of Rush appears in front of Copy Robot, and he springs upon it, launching himself high into the air.  If this turns out to be too unwieldy make it a normal super jump.
Items:  N/A
Rage:  Holograms. Copy Robot summons two holographic clones (Either AI or piloted by foes he's already killed) that fight for him in the same way he does. Each clone boasts 500 HP and must be killed even if Copy Robot is already defeated. (Perhaps if Copy Robot dies while one clone is still out, he will get transferred to a Hologram that hasn't been destroyed...but perhaps that would be too complicated.)

(No obituaries this time; he can just use the copywep obituaries.)

I see an issue with this concept, actually. What if he ends up getting a weapon like Flash Stopper or some other weapon that is generally situational? He should have the ability to grab another weapon. I can see some people switching weapons real quick to one that would handicap Copy Robot just so they can finish the boss off quickly. Based on what this boss can do, I see his health being a bit too high, maybe around 150 per player or something since he sometimes can get weapons that make it hard to approach him (imagine infinite Napalm Bomb or Thunder Beam). The clones also sound quite a bit overpowered if they are able to do the exact same things he can do. I'd probably do maybe 75 health per player for the clones, because remember that in a large server he can rage more than once. This honestly needs a little more work if I can find quite a few things wrong right away.


Invincible Airman

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Name:  Invincible Airman
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  Why, Airman Ga Taosenai, of course.  (Or this chiptune demake if you want (Download in description))
Description:  Built in response to a demand for more Mega Man-based bosses, Invincible Airman isn't really anything that special, but I like him.  I think he does tribute to the original quite well, but like the HHH it wouldn't break my heart if he didn't make it.

Health:  120 per Player
Main Attack:  Air Shooter. Airman wields the Air Shooter that Mega Man got from a cheap knockoff of him, blasting three shredding tornadoes upward. These do ripper damage, but are not a guaranteed kill.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump.
Items:
> Air Current. Spinning the fan in his chest, Airman pushes back opponents with a wind current while blasting his more standard tornadoes from his cannon. They fly forward after hovering in midair, and again, do heavy ripper damage.  45-second cooldown.
Rage:  Tornado Blast. After a brief moment of charging, Airman blasts a massive shredding tornado from his fan. Any player inside is tossed up into the air and takes ripper damage as long as they are inside. The tornado should draw in players close nearby, and slowly move forward for a time before dissipating.

Obituaries:
Air Shooter - %o couldn't defeat Airman (%k).
Air Current - %o was blown away by Invincible Airman's (%k) Air Current.
Tornado Blast - %o was cut to ribbons by Invincible Airman's (%k) Tornado Blast!

This definitely has a memeish quality to the character itself. The rest of it was pretty good, though.


Epic Pharaohman

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Name:  Epic Pharaohman
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  Given his source material, I think Rockman 4 MI's Boss Theme (There's a Theme pack for it somewhere) would be a good fit, but I suppose it's not required.
Description:  Epic Pharaohman was built in the same batch as Invincible Airman, in the response to "needs moar Mega Man bosses."  I actually don't like Epic Pharaohman that much.  I think his Pharaoh's Curse item overcomplicates him, but without it, he's not very interesting.
When his health is reduced to half, Pharaohman activates his 4MI-inspired Desperation state.  He recovers 25% of his maximum health, and his default attack is replaced with the Pharaoh Shotgun (Pharaoh Shot + Damage Buff + Spread Rune + Faster Charge Time), and the cooldown on The Pharaoh's Curse is reduced to 10 seconds (So an aware Epic Pharaohman can constantly have his opponents cursed).  Epic Pharaohman might prove too hard to make because of his curses, in which case it would be better just to move on.

Health:  130 per Player
Main Attack:  Pharaoh Wave. In a snap, Pharaohman charges a wave of heated sand and tosses it, flying fast and dealing strong ripper damage.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump.
Items:
> The Pharaoh's Curse.  Pharaohman casts a curse on the map, effecting everyone on it for a total of ten seconds.  45-second cooldown.  The curses are as follows:
>> Hopping - Players are forced to jump continually.
>> Reverse - Think the Reversed Controls chaos effect.
>> Slipping - Players lose their weapons, but dash forward in the direction they are facing.
>> Berserker - Forced firing and SV_FastWeapons 2! You weren't using that ammunition for anything, were you? This one can backfire dramatically and wind up making Epic Pharaohman take a lot of damage...
>> Roulette - The player randomly switches between their weapons.
>> Minimum - The projectile speed of all weapons is significantly reduced. Or, if not doable, maybe it could make the player move slower?
>> Fidget - All players move constantly. Or, if not doable, a player must continually move or they die.
Rage:  N/A

Obituaries:
Pharaoh Wave - %o was buried in the sands by Epic Pharaohman's (%k) Pharaoh Wave.
Pharaoh Shotgun - %o was put down by Epic Pharaohman's (%k) Pharaoh Shotgun.

Yeah, this doesn't stand much chance either, since I actually was involved for a bit in 4MI, and it was around the time Pharaoh Man's stage was being developed, so I know which of the curses either didn't work or wasn't worth the effort. But regardless, this just sounds ridiculously overpowered. Really can't say much else about it. It hurt his chances even more to try to get in his 4MI behavior as well. This would probably be ok as a legendary hale if we ever make one of those. But since we are not at that point...I don't think so.


Hidden Shadowman

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Name:  Hidden Shadowman
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  I've come to find that Doppelganger's theme from Devil May Cry well fits the mood of this boss.  Feel free to disagree.
Description:  This is not only a response for more MM-based bosses, but also an attempt to import another first-person-shooter boss battle mode:  The Hidden.  This boss should be completely invisible, and become partially visible whenever he uses an action (Or when hit) for a very brief moment before fading back into invisibility.  Homing weapons should be disabled while playing this boss, and whenever he kills someone he should recover 75 health.

Health:  50 per Player
Main Attack:  Assassinate. With a Shadow Blade in hand, Shadowman lunges, instantly killing anyone. This hale weapon has Claw-like range.
Super Jump:  Charge Jump. Point in any direction, and Shadowman goes flying in that direction. Like a Super Jump, but not as powerful and can serve multiple functions. This jump, for Hidden Shadowman specifically, has virtually no cool-down--only enough time for him to stop using the first one and land again.
Items:
> Electro Scrambler Scare. Should Shadowman's enemies be weary and cautious, or just plain annoying by forming buster walls, there is another way to get to them—with this, Shadowman can cast a deep-seated dread in anyone, making them run slower and deactivating their weapons.  30-second cooldown.
Rage:  N/A

Obituaries:
Assassinate - %o was killed, swiftly and silently, by Shadowman (%k).

For one thing, his item may very well have been his rage instead. Some people like Celebi and myself may be able to use this boss effectively, but I doubt many of the others would understand this boss's concept. Also, the Super Jump is too underpowered and thus fails the Crash Man test, since some of the holes in the stage will be beyond his reach unless we make it more powerful, and to balance that out would require nerfing something else in his behavior. This doesn't stand much of a chance. I understand the need for more Mega Man bosses, but they need to be of good quality, and this isn't that kind of quality that I am looking for.


Orange Juice/MusashiAA (SaviorSword HERO)

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Name:  Orange Juice/MusashiAA (SaviorSword HERO)
Skin:  
Theme and Sounds:  The only thing that immediately comes to mind is Rockman 4 MI's Chimerabot #1 theme, and I don't think that's in the Theme pack.
Description:  Ah, the original Hero Hale concept!  Takes me back.  Basically, in this Hale, the survivors' objective is to stay alive long enough for Savior to defeat OJ/AA, Savior's objective is to defeat OJ/AA and protect the survivors, and OJ/AA's objective is to kill all the survivors, at which point Savior also dies.  Also, all the survivors lose their weapons if you're battling this boss. Yeah. Originally Savior was going to have a tertiary attack called "Arm the Public" which spat out various weapons for the survivors to equip themselves with. I decided against it for now, trying not to make the Hero Hale side too powerful, but if others like it, maybe it could be implemented?

Orange Juice
Health:  150 per Player
Main Attack:  Top Whirl. Spinning rapidly, Orange Juice dashes forward. Anyone in his path is passed through, taking ripper damage.
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump.
Items:
> Spinning Top Blast. A whole bunch of Spinning Tops blast out from Orange Juice, doing the same amount of damage they do in YDClasses' incarnation of the same projectile.  60-second cooldown.
Rage:  He's on Top. For a time, Orange Juice's main fire is replaced with a more devastating weapon—the original Top Spin, which is now death on contact, when used in the air. If used on the ground, it allows him to toss a volley of Spinning Tops forward.

Obituaries:
Top Whirl - %o was left dizzy by Orange Juice's (%k) Top Whirl.
Spinning Tops - %o was spun about by Orange Juice's (%k) Spinning Tops.
Top Spin - %o was twisted by Orange Juice's (%k) Top Spin.

MusashiAA
Health:  75 per Player
Main Attack:  Time Slow. MusashiAA blasts out his Time Slow, slowing survivors for a brief period to make them easier for his companion Orange Juice to kill. This attack has a fairly slow cooldown.  If a full fifteen seconds pass between a Time Slow being ready for use and it being fired, it will be upgraded into a Za Warudo—which, like its No Constancy incarnation, completely freezes the victims for a time instead of just slowing them.
Super Jump:  None, but if Orange Juice dies before MusashiAA does, he will receive a default Super Jump.
Items:  N/A
Rage:  Time Stopper. For a brief moment, all is frozen, and only the two bosses may move. This gives them a brief moment to destroy whoever they please.

Obituaries:
Time Slow (Since doesn't it have to do one damage or something?) - %o was slowed to a stop by MusashiAA's (%k) Time Slow.
Za Warudo - %o was halted in (his/her/its) tracks by MusashiAA's (%k) Za Warudo.
Time Arrows - %o was pierced by MusashiAA's (%k) Time Arrows.

Description:  MusashiAA has a form of Desperation form, which activates if Orange Juice dies before him.  It allows him to take the offensive by letting him fire infinite Time Arrows with a non-rage Altfire.

SaviorSword
Health:  SaviorSword is in such good shape, he's invincible! The only way to defeat him is for his opposing Hales to kill the citizens he's attempting to protect.
Main Attack:  Savior's Sword. His named blade, SaviorSword's Savior's Sword is incredibly strong and laced with powerful magic. It bears similar range to a Hand Weapon-type Hale Weapon, and landing a successful hit will deal 100 damage as well as send its recipient flying!
Super Jump:  Default Super Jump
Items:
> Gravity Sword. Slamming the hilt of his blade on the ground, SaviorSword uses the power of gravity to deal damage. It acts like old Gravity Hold, doing a fair bit of damage and tossing the recipients up into the air.  60-second cooldown.
Rage:  Air Strike. Note that this rage builds as the survivors SaviorSword is attempting to protect die. SaviorSword's training in the air force helped him in many ways, but one of its key benefits are his new friends. Upon activating his rage, airplanes will fly all through the sky, dropping powerful explosive weapons all over the map. These could be custom-fashioned missiles or just recycled explosive weapons from the core, but in any case, make sure they are devastating.

Obituaries:
Savior's Sword - SaviorSword (%k) smote evil (%o) with his Savior's Sword!
Gravity Sword - %o was banished by SaviorSword's (%k) Gravity Sword.
Air Strike - %o was blown to pieces by SaviorSword's (%k) Air Strike!

I couldn't read everything. This is just way too complicated to set up, and we don't really need to have anyone in Cutstuff represented in this, that's why we have the Cutstuff Community Classes. The survivors are basically useless during the entire fight, so this would end up being a HUGE stallfest. No chance whatsoever of this getting in at all.


Dark Bowser

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Name:  Dark Bowser
Skin:    FTX may still be working on tweaks to Hinatidez's skin to make it more resemble Dark Bowser.
Theme and Sounds:  NES demake of Vs. Dark Bowser (Download in description).  If you want sound effects, there might be some buried in here.
Description:  I commandeered this idea from FTX to accurately reflect how I believe a Dark Bowser hale should function.  He doesn't have a great deal of unique features aside from his timed main weapon (Designed to reflect timed hits in the M&L series in general).
He should also have a non-rage altfire a la Captain Falcon:  Dark Flames. Dark Bowser inhales deeply, and exhales a large blast of purplish-blue fire. The flames catch opponents on fire, but unlike Cave's lemons, this does not slow them down. The flames linger in the air for a while before vanishing.

Health:  250 per Player
Main Attack:  Dark Punch. Dark Bowser winds up a punch, his fist aglow with shady fire. The longer one waits between releasing the button to fire, the more damage the punch will do. A perfect punch will deal an OHKO and make Dark Bowser slide forward. However, if one waits too long, Dark Bowser will stumble and fall forward, doing very weak damage.
Super Jump:  Super Jump. Dark Bowser cannot Super Jump as high as other bosses, but upon touching the ground again he will emit shockwaves which deal no damage but stun briefly.
Items:  N/A
Rage:  Big Ball O' Minions. Summoning up shadowy versions of Bowser's own minions, Dark Bowser tosses them all around the level, allowing them to wreak havoc. A purplish haze falls over the survivors, obscuring their vision (if only a little).
> Dark Goombas walk around idly, charging toward survivors if they get too close.
> Dark Koopas walk around idly. If dealt sufficient damage, they will retreat into their shell, at which point they can be shot. The Dark Koopa then acts as a projectile, instantly killing other minions it collides with, and hitting Dark Bowser and survivors for about 75 of their health.
> Dark Thwomps float in one single place, coming down to instantly kill any player that tries to pass underneath them. They can only take damage from explosive weapons.
> Dark Bob-Ombs run towards players. They have low health and will explode violently upon death or contact with a survivor.
> Dark Bullet Bills charge around at high speeds, dealing high damage and continuing upon collision.
The rage continues until either Dark Bowser's minion supply is exhausted or a timer expires, at which point all still-existing minions vanish and the fog is lifted.

Obituaries:
Dark Punch - "%o was lost in the darkness of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Punch."
Dark Flames - "%o melted in the heat of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Flames."
Dark Goomba - "%o lost a life to one of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Goombas."
Dark Koopa - "%o was shell-shocked by one of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Koopas."
Dark Thwomp - "%o was crushed under one of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Thwomps."
Dark Bob-Omb - "%o couldn't outrun the blast of one of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Bob-Ombs."
Dark Bullet Bill - "%o was shot by one of Dark Bowser (%k)'s Dark Bullet Bills."

Just no. For one thing, the main attack will be too hard to land because by the time you got enough power in your punch, no one is going to be dumb enough to be in range. The rage idea is an interesting concept, but the rest of the boss is only ok.


Airman James

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Name:  Airman James
Skin:   If a Battle and Fighters skin of Airman is ever made, that should be used here.
Theme and Sounds:  All I could ever find was this cool remix of Airman's Gameboy theme.
Description:  In a way, this guy was kind of a return to basics.  Compared to some of my others, he's not too fancy, but I still think he has a very sound moveset.  And, really.  How can we not make fun of Airman James?

Health:  250 per Player
Main:  Whirling Airblast. Airman James blasts a huge gust of air from his cannon. Does fairly little damage (Will need more than four hits to kill), but fires over a large range in front of him and pushes hit opponents back.
Super Jump:  Super Jump. Airman James's Super Jump is different, because when he jumps, he will leave a whirlwind lingering at the spot he jumped from.
Items:  N/A
Rage:  Secret Weapon: Gamma Cannon! Airman James equips a super-strong cannon infused with the powers of Mega Man 3 Final Boss: Gamma! His main weapon is replaced with three color-coded weapons that can be spammed very quickly until the timer for the ability runs out.
> Plasma Rail - Color-coded blue. Fires bolts of plasma rapidly in a tight, condensed line.
> Lightning Blast - Color-coded yellow. Send out bolts of lightning that travel outward in all directions.
> Lava Barrage - Color-coded red. Drops a bubbling mess of lava that explodes out into several towering pillars of flame upon hitting the ground.  

Obituaries:
Whirling Airblast - %o was blown away by Airman James's (%k) Whirling Airblast.
Plasma Rail - %o was disintegrated by Airman James's (%k) Plasma Rail.
Lightning Blast - %o's curcuits were fried by Airman James's (%k) Lightning Blast.
Lava Barrage - %o was melted in Airman James's (%k) Lava Barrage.

We already have a MM8BDM meme in Scrooge, so we don't need another. Way too much health for someone with his mobility, and his main attack would make him too reliant on getting enough Rage.

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Name: Nyarlathotep, God of One Thousand Forms, the Crawling Chaos
Skin: Pharaoh Man
Other Graphics: I have no custom graphics for this, sadly. Perhaps others can come up with somethin'? (I'm pretty much hopeless with spriting anyways)
Theme: The song from Persona 2
Description: One of the Elder Gods, an Eldrich Abomination. Image of how he should look in the chosen form

Health: 500 + (100 * PlayerCount()) - 100 //This would be the literal equation in ACS to make sure it doesn't add 100 HP while counting the boss play himself in the PlayerCount() part.
Main Attack: I suppose a wide-range tentacle swing that acts like a melee except with lower damage and better reach, pretty much crowd control (I'm sure one of his thousands of forms could come out for a bit and would actually feature this :P Not all forms are mentioned in canon anyways as there'd be too much text to do so)
Super Jump: Same as the rest, but slightly weaker
Items: SJ(like all hales do) and an item (similar to Ra Thor's) that gathers followers
Rage: Sudden Insanity. Nyarlathotep briefly shows the survivors one of his more sanity-blasting forms and they temporarily have blurred vision as their minds are dis-functioning.



"And it was then that Nyarlathotep came out of Egypt. Who he was, none could tell, but he was of the old native blood and looked like a Pharaoh. The fellahin knelt when they saw him, yet could not say why."
—H.P. Lovecraft, "Nyarlathotep"

For various reasons this one stands little chance of making it in. For one thing, a custom skin is needed. Stock skins will no longer be accepted UNLESS it's the RM itself. I want to reduce the reliance on skin makers to make the skins for bosses currently in. There is another reason for this rejection, but I will refrain from mentioning it.

For beta's, I will just keep this short. Omega Zero and Sonic are both too overpowered (Sonic already was too overpowered in Hyper), and Unknown Robot Master is not on the table at this point.

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Name: CRORQ
Skin: Sonic Man, Volt Man and Dyna Man
Other Graphics(*): Will need an actor of CRORQ made
Theme: Blank Music, unless Kackle releases his DOS boss theme.
Description: An Actor of CRORQ spawns randomly on the map and roams around randomly (or even remains still) as 3 players are selected to be Sonic, Volt and Dyna. The goal is to defeat CRORQ before the "Hales" kill all the players. The "Hales" have lower HP then most others but respawn as long as CRORQ is undefeated.

Each "Hale" serves a role in the group. Sonic acting as support and zone control, Volt is the tank, and Dyna is a heavy hitter. All alone are not as strong as other hales, due to being a triple hale and constant respawns.

Sonic
Health(*): Mid
Speed: Mid
Main Attack: Sonic Emitter (Throws three emitters, which deal very low damage but linger)
Super Jump: None but can swim in water
Items(*): none
Rage: Sonic Wave: bounces off walls for a while to deal decent damage.

Sonic wants to keep you at bay where you are to allow the others to move in for the kill.

Volt
Health(*): Highest
Speed: Slow
Main Attack: Punch
Super Jump: Yes
Items(*): none
Rage: Force Field: Makes Volt invincible to all damage except by sound based moves and does a spread attack when it discharges.

Volt is slow but can take a beating before going down, he wants to use himself to soak up hits for Dyna to move in or protecting CRORQ.

Dyna
Health(*): Lowest
Speed: High
Main Attack: Lunging punching: does a forward jump while attacking
Super Jump: forward diagonal jump with better distance then height.
Items(*): none
Rage: Nuclear Detonator: Drops a detonator quickly below him that deals large damage.

Dyna goes down easy but moves quick, his goal is to ambush the players to minimize how many hits he takes before reaching them, allowing Sonic to trap them for him or Volt to block hits to let him move in closer before being targeted.

It's an interesting concept, but I feel their attacks could be a little more creative than just punching for Volt and Dyna. Of course, I say this not knowing how these robots actually fought in...PC, I think? This will have to wait until CRORQ is made as a skin, but this does have potential for being both from a Mega Man game and being obscure. Also, some stats for CRORQ would be great as well.


Now, let's see who is ne...Oooo, I'm looking forward to this. Now I can be the critic for once and not the other way around regarding my poor mapping skills...btw, the fact you didn't put any health down hurt your chances of any hales possibly being accepted. It just looks like these ideas were thought up quickly but not thoroughly.

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LITTLE MAC
Skin: I DONT KNOW
Other Graphics: Punching Stuff.
Theme:

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Description: "Whole world is waiting for ya kid"
Mac needs better practice. Call in the punching bags! (You)

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack: ITS A PUNCH. POW!
Super Jump: UPPERCUT- A normal super jump, but damages people while moving up
Items: CANDY BAR- Restores 10% health ONCE (Can remove if this is too stupid)
Rage: STAR PUNCH- Throws self forward really fast, punching/ohkoing all the people in the path. (Uncontrollable)

There exists a Little Mac skin from what little research I did, but the skin is too large. This is automatically rejected until a suitable skin is made.

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SAKUYA
Skin: Sakuya
Other Graphics: I DONT KNOWWWWWW
Theme:

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Description: The video theme explains this pretty well

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack: Triple Knife Spread
Super Jump: NORMAL
Items: NONE
Rage: LUNA CLOCK LUNA DIAL- Hi. I'm less obnoxious Dio Flash rage. I only last for like 3-4 seconds and I don't ohko you. In all seriousness, It stops time everywhere for a set amount of time, allowing Sakuya to aimbot aim her knives
better than usual.

You can do better than this. Just freezing time for a bit for a rage? For the amount of rage that you need in this mod, the rage is WAY underpowered. I think there's someone that could do this boss more justice.

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JOE INVASION
Skin: Hammer Joe (THE LEADER)
Other Graphics: Probably
Theme:

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Description: Now that Teams are in place, this boss is similar to bot apoc. The normal person becomes the leader, commanding
the other joes to do his bidding. Probably 2 joes per person. I don't know, that's a value I probably shouldn't decide. The joes have standard health/armor/hey look at sniper joe class in classes v7-ahhhhhhhhhhhh for something on this. Overall this idea is very rough, and will probably need to be discussed/worked on quite abit.

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack: Throws his little wrecking ball thing.
Super Jump: NORMAL
Items: REINFORCEMENTS!- Summons a few extra joes to fight right beside him (Pretty much in events where the joes, BOTS, get stuck in corners, this'll help abit) Has 2-ish uses.
Rage: JOE BANNER- Teleports all remaining joes to fight alongside him. (Instead of wandering off being somewhere else)

Now this one looks a little more polished than the previous two, but not by much. The rage, however, is practically useless. It looks to me, though, that you haven't even played Rebirth. Perhaps you would have known what is expected of a rage if you did. There needs to be something much more to the rage, like maybe increased attack/armor for the returning joes or something. The only thing to me that looked good was the extra item.

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CUTMAN RIDING THE FROSTMAN
Skin: Cutman riding Frostman
Other Graphics: Probably
Theme:

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Description: With this idea I'm taking "Co-Op" bosses to the next level. One person is the Frostman, while another person is the Cutman. But wait, aren't they on top of each other? DOHOHO ROZARK WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Yes, BOTH PLAYERS ARE ONE ENTITY!
The thing is, FROSTMAN controls the model, allowing Cutman to MULTIATTACK behind him! (Or somewhere else)

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack (Frost): He likes Punching people
Main Attack2 (Cut): He likes throwing his scissor head.
Super Jump: NORMAL
Items (Frost): WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE- Frostman has the item. He jumps up then back down, becoming a giant pow block and stunning those who don't jump from him.
Rage (Cut): GIDDY UP- Cutman has the Rage. He kicks the side of Frostman making the Frostman move faster for awhile

I have no idea what I just read, really. Not much for me to talk about here. Next one...

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M. BISON
Skin: MMMMMMMMM Bison.
Other Graphics: PSYCHO PARTICLES (and other stuff)
Theme:

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Description: People have wanted this for quite awhile. Make it happen. Also people, probably yourself or others, are going to change attacks/rage due to it "not being as accurate or how they want"

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack: Screw punching, just kick everything. (Seriously this should probably be different and not a standard punch/kick)
Super Jump: HEAD PRESS- Jumps in the air like a normal super jump. Hit again while in midair to thrust yourself downards, tapdancing
on any foe's head when you land.
Items: I DONT KNOWWWWWW
Rage: PSYCHO CRUSHER- Dashes forward multiple (3-4)times, destroying the people in his path. (Controllable)

...Yeah, I think I'll just read up on the version of M. Bison that Balrog was attempting to make. Maybe I should actually talk to Balrog and see what came of him.

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MARIO KART
Skin: Mario Kart. It exists.
Other Graphics: Probably
Theme:

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Description: LETSA GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Health: DONT LET ME DO THIS
Main Attack: Shoots Green Koopa Shells that bounce around 2-3 times
Super Jump: Lakitu sorta lets him fly for abit.
Items: RANDOM ITEM GENERATOR!!!!!!! -gets one every 10 seconds or so-
-Red Shell: Homes in on a guy, does damage
-Triple Banana: TRIP ON THESEEEEE, spins the players around in confusion
-Fake Weapon Icon: Are you really going to fall for this, stuns
-Mushroom: IMMA CATCH YOU, gives a boost of speed
Rage: STARMAN- You literally get to run into people to kill them for a few seconds. Fun.

No comment.

All right, that's enough of the joke bosses hopefully. Next is...oh, some rage ideas for Scrooge. Since right now he's in as a MM8BDM meme, hopefully we can get something good for him.

A few proposals for its replacement:

Rage Idea 1: Mrs. Beakley
"Mrs. Beakley?! What are you doing here?!" Mrs. Beakley teleports in, then throws out three items, randomly selected from the list below. Each one can be picked up by either the big duck himself or by a player, and the effects vary.

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Ice Cream Cone - The most common one. Scrooge has a small portion of his health refilled (About 10 per remaining player?). Players have 50 HP filled, up to a maximum of 200 if you eat enough.
Cake - Big and tasty. Scrooge heals a decent portion of his health (About 25 per remaining player?). Players gain 100 HP, up to a maximum of 200 if you eat enough.
M-Coin - Ooh, shiny! Scrooge becomes invulnerable temporarily and moves slightly faster. Players gain the same effect.
Scrooge Doll - Now with cane swinging action! Scrooge gains a temporary allotment of health based on the remaining number of players, which causes him to feign death and teleport when it's depleted. Players automatically go to 200 HP and feign death and teleport when the first 100 is depleted.
Ruby - Where did she find this?! Scrooge is refunded 25% of his rage bar. Players have their held weapon completely refilled.
Heart Container - It's so pretty... Scrooge heals a great amount (About 50 per remaining player?). Players gain 100 HP, up to a maximum of 300 if you're somehow lucky enough.
Treasure - One of the Five Treasures. Incredibly low chance of spawning, but it doesn't actually do anything of relevance. It's shiny, though.

The first rage honestly seems to favor the players more than Scrooge. Maybe one of the other rages you listed might be better...


Rage Idea 2: M-Coin
Scrooge picks up an M-Coin, causing him to be enveloped in energy. Scrooge is invulnerable while this is active, and moves slightly faster than normal. In addition, his cane swings and pogo lose their "error margin," becoming instant kills regardless of whether or not the duck scores a direct hit.


This kind of sounds like an improved version of one of Saxton Hale's old rages (there was a time his rage made him unable to take damage). The only thing really creative about this is the name of the rage. Next one...


Rage Idea 3: The Five Treasures
Scrooge reveals the Five Treasures, summoning the great Count Dracula Duck to aid him. Drake has health equal to about half his master's current amount, and a duration of about 30 seconds before he vanishes in a flash of bats. The Count summons bats that move erratically towards players, teleports around the arena, and swoops down on players who dare venture too close.


Now we're talking. This sounds pretty good for a rage, though probably a bit tricky to program. If this rage ends up getting accepted, I'll probably ask for some help on this rage, since my knowledge of Decorate and behaviors is limited. At least unlike a majority of the rages requested for bosses that I have reviewed already, this actually sounds useful. What about the last one?


Rage Idea 4: Gizmoduck
Scrooge summons Fenton and his glorious Gizmoduck suit! After putting on the suit in a blur of energy, Gizmoduck unloads fast-moving missile payloads upon any man foolish enough to wander into his line of sight. These missiles have great target tracking and explode on impact, dealing enough damage to level a player if they make contact. ...There's also a very small chance that the suit will drop a slow-moving, non-homing nuke or a pair of boxers that float down harmlessly instead of the normal missile, but don't count on either happening with any frequency. Gizmoduck has about 25% of his employer's health at time of summoning and will automatically beam away after 30 seconds of service.


Not quite as useful as the third rage, but I think if this gets accepted, this might be a good enough rage to improve a bit and put it among the greatest of rages (as in equal to Gilgamesh's and Dio Flash's rages).

Scrooge desperately needs a different rage, so I welcome Cold_Fusion's attempt at changing his rage. I'll definitely consider the last two rages. Let's see, anything else?

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Name: Kung-Fu Cutman
Skin: Kung-Fu Cutman's skin
Other Graphics(*): Rolling Cutter from the core, Cutman's desperation attack sprite from MMSP
Theme: Sonic CD Metallic Madness: Sonic Gems Collection 6290 Mix (because of the famous KFCutman YTPMV using this theme)
Soundbytes: I already gathered five or six of them from the Ruby Spears Cartoon to be used for Kung-Fu Cutman.
Description: He's going to make paper dolls out of you! Cutman's sociopath,  Peter Lorre-reminiscent counterpart from the Ruby Spears cartoon joins the fight.

Health(*): Hmm, not sure, but Cutman's a glass cannon in the classes mod so I imagine he'd have low health.
Main Attack: Modified Rolling Cutter: Follows same trajectory, damage balanced to kill in three direct hits, possibly two if that's not powerful enough for his health amount. Possibly given a longer delay between firing for balance purpose.
Super Jump: I was considering the standard jump, though it could also be possible to do a leap, with vertical height not equal to a standard super jump being supplemented by increased movement speed for the duration of the jump.
Rage: For lack of a better idea (if anyone has one, please pitch it, this is the only part I haven't been able to come up with), replace KFCutman's Rolling Cutter with the super, shurikan-like cutter from MMSP. Further range and a OHKO. I'm not too fond of the idea but I haven't come up with anything better.


If this doesn't work, we could always make a Cutmanmike Hale like this but with a rage involving the fire his sprite has in the credits of MM8BDM.

Well, it's an attempt at least. Honestly the idea is not very creative, as it just sounds more like you want Cutman from MMSP to be in Saxton Hale. Let's leave those bosses to MMSP itself, shall we?

Second, there already exists a superior suggestion for M. Bison. Not because I made it, of course, but because everybody else seems to have been in favor of it.

Here it is.

Name: M. Bison

Skin: M.Bison (Llamahombre)
Color: Dark Red (Primary) Red (Secondary)

Attack:

EDITED IN: thanks smashbro:
Punch (slows target) --> Kick (short forward dash to catch target) --> Scissor (where all the damage is hiding)

If held down, Bison starts charging his right hand with Psycho Power, and then surrounds himself in Psycho Energy while flying spinning towards his opponents, similar to a torpedo. (Psycho Crusher) The damage is up to you, but it's a ripper. EDITED IN: thanks again smashbro: Bison is also not limited by gravity when using this, to help the lack of a super jump.

Item: Bison Warp

Bison warps forward the distance of 2 and a half players, facing torwards his previous location.

Rage: Final Psycho Crusher

Behaves essentially identically to the normal Psycho Crusher, but the hitbox is somewhat larger, the travel distance is longer, and the travel speed is faster. It is an OHKO, if not near OHKO. Oh, and you don't have to charge it, of course. EDITED IN: When this ends, Bison has his movement speed increased temporarily.

Bison is invincible for the duration of the rage.

Obituaries:

"[victim] was sent to the grave by M.Bison ([boss])"
"M.Bison's ([boss]) Psycho Power fed off of [victim]"

Health:

I can't balance this to save my life.

Music:

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I honestly had hoped the submission to be a little more polished. Maybe Balrog knew some things you guys didn't when he started developing M. Bison. First, I do not see any indication that he is able to gain a lot of vertical distance, which means he fails the Crash Man test, and that's an automatic rejection. For his main attack, how long does it take to charge, and is he able to look around while charging, or does he stay the same direction he faces when he's charging? For his item, how much of a cool down should it have? I imagine if it is a fairly low cool down that the item actually can be quite useful. The rage looks good to me.

Let's see...finally, Rebirth Falcon was too ineffective at fighting multiple players, hence he was removed. Smash/Gizmo actually had asked for him to be removed anyway. Gizmo is free to resubmit his version of Falcon later if he chooses to do so.

Wow, that was a lot to go through, but at last it's done. At least I got a few possible recommendations to mention to the other staff...keep the requests coming!

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« on: March 11, 2014, 11:37:13 PM »

But then again, for any of these, I'm not trying to convince you I'm trying to convince Tails; I'd very much so appreciate a pm or something from him concerning these submissions.

I wanted to relax for a few days since it's Spring Break for me, and soon I'll have to buckle down and get some work done with both homework assignments and studying for a midterm, and also having to fix up some issues with Rebirth. I'm just looking over each submission and giving my personal opinions about them, but this in NO WAY means they will be accepted or considered if I favor a few of the submissions. I was waiting a bit longer for some more submissions, but I guess I must do this early.

If I don't get any posts after this, I'll just edit this post when I finish my analysis. Just to give you an idea of how far along I am: I finished Chaos_Fantazy's bosses, and it's time for dinner. Don't expect this to finish for a little while.

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« on: March 11, 2014, 02:27:47 AM »

Been encountering some crashing problems, though I don't have much info to use to try to resolve the problem. I will look into this while v1b gets developed later, but if you guys have any information that might help, it would be great if you mentioned your theories. The server was just getting big and then it crashes. Not a good first impression, to say the least.

Did these crashes happen repeatedly or just once in a blue moon? If it's the latter, I suspect that Zandronum itself may be to blame. My Classes TLMS servers tend to crash every now and then as well, and I've heard that such crashes can occur even in vanilla servers. It's not enough to ruin the fun, but it is a nuisance and there are usually at least a couple players who just take the opportunity to quit instead of rejoining.

I've had the crashing happen a total of 4 times now since the release. I think I have an idea of what might be causing it, but I really want to just take a break from working. I suppose I'll just put up a hotfix and see if it works...

So, when will we get to know what ideas are accepted in? I'm pretty curious about which ones do. (hopefully I get mine accepted, but I'm not so sure =/ )

Not quite for some time. I'm taking a break from working since I had worked on v1a straight for the past week or so.

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« on: March 10, 2014, 08:17:05 PM »

Been encountering some crashing problems, though I don't have much info to use to try to resolve the problem. I will look into this while v1b gets developed later, but if you guys have any information that might help, it would be great if you mentioned your theories. The server was just getting big and then it crashes. Not a good first impression, to say the least.