So... GVHv2b10 ever getting out?

[CarThief]

Long, possibily slightly rant-ish post.

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You're kinda letting it rot and die anyway currently, giving MM8BDM all the attention, and just forgetting about the balance issues this one has.
Why its still being played is because it is fun. And alot of that fun just kept getting better and got more people because it improved (and, well, yeah, the more content to mess around with), but in the long run, if the flaws get too bad, people might just stop playing it.

And i'm quite personally getting sick of the constant marine spam you see daily, and either do nothing about, just watch your teammates kill themselves merely looking at an marine. Or join the marine's team. Hell, might as well call it Marine vs Ghouls! Of course the humans often complain about the Sjas that constantly seem overpowered to them, well i guess he is quite powerfull and difficult to deal with.

Even if its the last update you'll ever do, atleast PLEASE balance the damn thing before you leave it to rot. It seems quite unlikely it will need much more stuff if you're putting all your effort into MM8BDM, so atleast give the people who like it and some of the people who care for its balance an update! It'll just make it more amusing to play when we want to play it for whatever reason.
Its closed to being decently balanced anyway... Ah, the memories of instakill lightning arrows, 3 super powerfull ice arrows, the machinegun ripping through ghouls even better then the hunter's arrows at some point...

If all those balance issues are behind us atleast we can then just play it if there's an active game going on anyway, without being mauled by riotguns or sjas only. Assuming no new issues pop up. :P

Oh, and considering MM8BDM is your current popular project anyway, it doesnt need much new stuff to regain popularity, for all i care its an silent update! What would possibily stop you from updating it? I'm sure many people would love an balance update anyway, plenty of people getting tired of the usual flaws. Personally, i'll be quite happy when its all fixed, hosted on the official, non-laggy servers, and i can just enter it one day and just ENJOY a good ol game of GVH. Maybe just for purely the sake of nostalgia.

Hmm, and i wonder... Anyone else wants to see GVH updated for any reason? (If people still read this section of the forums at all.)

All this is assuming the 10th version is releasable, unless there's still some issues to fix or tests to be done. Speaking of, i DEAR GOD HOPE there is a proper spread for the Riotgun now. :P
(And dont ask me to make a own patch or anything, because i want a fixed GVH to be hosted on official servers, and best way to do it is to have a new one to be released, of course. :P)

[CutmanMike]

Other than yourself, who is desperately waiting for an update? If you can get a bunch of people to post here, and tell me what they want from the update, I'll do it. Right now there's just the riotgun that's changed and nothing else, which you may as well make a patch wad for.

[CarThief]

Hmm... Sometimes people seem to agree me in GVH games that they want an update or are sick of that Riotgun. I could possibily direct them here, though its quite rediculous if i have to start an petition of sorts only for an update, though!

Personally, i dont make much own edits of stuff, mostly because it ever ends up on official servers, and considering GVH is quite... A serious low-ping game, and people prefer to play on the official servers, i guess, its not quite a good option.

Werent you going to nerf Sjas as well though, or never got to it?

[CutmanMike]

It's not really so much a petition, but I want to know what people want and expect from GVH when it gets updated? There's no new maps or anything, so it's basically a tweak of an update that like I said, is patch wad stuff. Getting that hosted on the mainstream servers could be a pain, but I think that's better than having people download megs of content again just for a couple o' tweaks.

The only other option is to hand down the torch to someone else, OR just let someone start an unofficial GVH (like GVH:Remastered edition or something) kinda like what happened with AOW2

[Ivory]

I vote for a GvH Update. As much as I love MM8BDM, I also want to see GvH actually get finished.

[TERRORsphere]

I remember I edited GVH26 for the update that never happened... Anyway, a quick fix that makes the marine less dominating would be nice.

[ficarra1002]

I've been thinking the marine needs a lot less grenades and a little bit of a ammo reduction for a while now.

[Ivory]

Oh right, I remember what I wanted to ask.
I submitted a map ages ago, but I'm not even sure if you looked at it. According to DTD, it had some issues in software, being the current skybox and the moon inside the skybox, both of which I can easily fix. If you are going to include it in the next update, I'll fix it up and resubmit for the next version of GvH.

[CarThief]

This reminds me of a last version of my map as well, why, i had an completely fixed version of GVH31, what needed to replace the current one.
Its doors will now stay open unless someone manages to press the switch that toggles them to open when approached or activated manually. (People complained the doors where in the way, this might work better, i guess?)
I think i removed the steam in there as well. Seems this update could bring some map updates or even have a few good maps like Ivory's added. Just the more reason, and indeed, it kinda needs that finishing touch, by fixing the last few flaws in GVH.

I could upload the latest edit of GVH31 if you want, if you dont happen to have it lying around, probaly having deleted it with the virus issue possibily, it was supposed to be updated in v10 alright.

[Crystal King]

I'd like to see an update with the fixed maps and other things such as a little Sjas nerf (prehaps his scream hits in multiples rather then a huge attack, to give players a chance to escape? That'd stop the complaining.) and definitely riotgun nerf, possibly grenade radius nerf too (The huge orb of range is so BS sometimes for creepers). I'd also like you to add the singleplayer Yurei battle into the wad rather then having it separate (because I can't find the damn thing anymore), or if that can't happen, at least include it in the zip? I'm not referring to the "fixed" one made by Car (although you may wanna include that too if he's ok with it), I'm talking about the original one you need to activate the cheat for.

[Ivory]

I'll also post this here for reinforcement .

I've updated my updated my map. The issues given to me have been fixed and it's ready to go if you choose to accept it. Hopefully you do since a new map may encourage an actual update along with the other map fixes and balance fixes.

Edit: Updated link with the new version.

[CarThief]

Hmm... I dont think all the people who still play GVH would appreciate a sudden total change to Sjas's attack mechanics. He might reduce the range of it, last time he made a list of what to do in v10, pretty damn long ago.
Speaking of important changes, Choke was getting a heal when either killing someone or hurting someone, i recall? (Though healing while attacking your foe sounds more interesting. :P)

Hmm... Atleast he didnt forget about the riotgun, damn overpowered thing ruining the possible aspect of a fair fight every single game i play. Should tell more people to come here if i can find another GVH server... Unless they dont like making an account here, or are one of those Cutstuff haters (what would be ironic if they're playing GVH). :P

[Teej]

I vote for a GVH update. As much as I love MM8BDM, I also want to see GVH actually get finished.

[Raider]

I also want an update.  If you could include Ivory's new map, that would be nice, as I actually like it.  And aside from the marine and sjas nerfs, maybe that creeper ball-jumping would be cool, it really would improve his mobility.  Anyway I look forward to the update, even if it is just nerfs.

[CarThief]

Ah, Creeper ball jumping was a suggesten often made, and often denied. God knows why Cutman still refuses to implement this... Its actually quite handy if it COSTS a ball, but it gets you somewhere. Creeper's downfall aside being too reckless or careless with explosives abusing enemies was always his lack of speed and not to mention lack of getting around, especially with obstacles.

Wouldnt be that bad to implement, speaking of buffs, i havent touched Choke much at all in ages, but if he doesnt have 150 HP, wasnt he going to get that much? Not sure if this was intended along with the HP restoring from attacking/killing, if that gets implemented at all.

Especially looking forward to the Marine nerf in particular. (Just try playing against an professional marine abuser as an Jitterskull, you miss, you get hit for 1/3 HP, or more! Not that other ghouls got it much easier...)