So... GVHv2b10 ever getting out?

[CarThief]

Interesting, i do know of how the whole damage factor and stuff works, but if it can catch choke's bites, it can catch other things, essential things, like stun balls, so i guess the hitbox shouldnt be too large of it, if it gets done at all. If the splash was harmfull to humans he might actually cause some  trouble when killing someone in a group, hehe...

Well, the harming is just a small optional idea, i do hope the heal is a quick one, as GVH can be quite fast, i suppose. I guess other classes wont have the luxury of somehow healing due to this? Ah, the strategic support possibilities...
Edit: Only with the help of a Choke, of course.

Edit2: Well, the idea of having a group of people try and do stuff for GVH might work if you ask me, seems a little much work for a single person. Should stop from whatever single person to go all power mad and ruining the game for whatever reason. :P

[Lio]

I'm not sure where I was supposed to post this, I didn't want to open a thread just for it. But today I saw the Hellrear guy advertising a rapidshare link to an "official" update of GvH. GvHv2b10 was the name even. Was someone aware of this? And I thought stuff like that wasn't allowed, edit an official release (any mod), and release it as your own. Is it with GvH?

[Eruanna]

Yeah, I am really very dubious about this too. He asked me to update my server with it. I pretty much said nuh uh.

[CarThief]

Seems suspicious if its not from Cutman, if you ask me. Who knows, maybe a dangerous file, there's enough people anticipating a update for GVH, i assume.

Aside the possibility of the file being dangerous, i wonder WHAT got updated on the file, if people start making their own, undoubtedly it'll screw up the carefull balance that slowly was created. Ah, i remember that very odd modification someone made for GVH, based on weaknesses like pokemon, meh, it wasnt too entertaining.

Perhaps release an official v10 to remove any confusion, hint, hint...?

[Ivory]

This seems way too suspicious.

I remember someone had a virus GvH thing a while back. As a rule of thumb, I'd only download GvH from Cutstuff, no where else.

[Eruanna]

I'll take a look at the file myself, then. (Yes, I am brave/foolish/whatever you wanna call it)

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Edit: The file contains no viruses, but until I hear otherwise from Cutman I am going to assume it is a non-legit copy. It seems some folks (perhaps even only 1 dude) took it upon themselves to make the changes they wanted to GvH without authorization from Cutman and add in some very low quality maps. The maps they added are small, as I've said before low quality, and under detailed.

I don't know what balance changes they've made but they said they've made a few.

Anyway, if you open the file your computer won't explode (I take no responsibility if it does anyway though). In my book it's nothing more than an IP infringement.

[CutmanMike]

That file is completely unofficial, I've never seen it before

[CarThief]

Hmm... Well i wonder if there's any progress with giving GVH to a person or possibily a group. I guess you could give it all to DTD if you're looking for a willing person, or maybe give it to a group of people who you can consider reliable and who care enough about GVH to not mess it up (not many people that fit the bill, but there's bound to be atleast a few on this forum).

Hmm... And i wouldnt care too much on how messy the code/decorate/acs is though, as long as it works i say! Making good stuff is almost never easy anyway, it doesnt have to be easy, just doable!

Slightly off topic: I wonder, aside map changes where any other things changed in that unofficial file? Like the classes or the ACS?

Edit: An long, serious (but probaly anger inducing) idea, maybe worth it to add to the list, if people can see past their blind rage upon seeing this:

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Possibily alter lightning arrows to do less damage? They're getting amazingly popular, and can instant kill Creepers from just about any range and 2-hit Jitterskulls while extremely vulnerable on long range without miss, when they recently attacked. Kinda annoying you can be instakilled on ANY distance, or atleast almost get killed, skill is one factor, but its quite rediculous, not to mention, it'll pick up popularity afte-- uh, IF the riotgun gets nerfed.
I'd suggest around 50 possibily randomized damage, almost always hitting 1/2 or 1/3'd of an ghoul's life. Except for creeper being practically 4/5 damaged after a direct hit. His job is hard enough with cheaters, explosives, lack of movement... :P

The reason for this suggestion is that its practically impossible to kill people without GETTING killed as an Jitterskull when there's a hunter around. If they are good with lightning, they WILL hit you at EVERY, SINGLE, ATTEMP, that you make to kill an human. And its merely 2 hits and you're out.

As for the Creeper, he's small, people sometimes cheat, and he has it hard enough anyway, besides, he'll be nearly dead and a single projectile can destoy him or a unlucky grenade.
Any other classes have the luxury of acceptable to quick movement and can dodge plenty of lightning arrows if they're good at it.

My only alternative suggestion is to give Jitterskull either an permanent or temporarely resistance while attacking and untill the absolute moment he can (and assumingly does) teleports/moves. If it wears off before he moves at all it'll be useless and only a matter of timing. Not sure if Creepers will need any extra resistance with this idea.

[Crystal King]

After reading that, and rag- I mean calmly collecting my thoughts, here's what I have to say on the matter.
Nerf the lightning arrows for the other classes (it is pretty unfair for Jitter) but make them more effective against creepers. It should still instant kill them, imo, because if you're good enough to hit a creeper with a projectile with a hit radius such as that, you should be able to kill it.
Also, (if I haven't said it already, I don't remember saying it) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make creepers walk through if possible. I can't count the amount of times I've actually ran INTO a creeper and had a death from them.

[TERRORsphere]

Also, (if I haven't said it already, I don't remember saying it) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make creepers walk through if possible. I can't count the amount of times I've actually ran INTO a creeper and had a death from them.

Waiting for THRUSPECIES. I'm not going to let humans run through Creepers because that's retarded. Anyway, I wonder who Cutman will give GVH to.....

and there goes my 1337 post count ;_;

[Xeno-Tripe]

Long story short, I'm <GRC> Sjasface... Head of the <GRC> which is a Ghoul based clan, boo and hiss you might be thinking/saying but don't get me wrong we've been doing fine so far. But that aside, me and my clan would like an update of some sort, even if it's just a few balancing fixes and maybe a new map or two. Because yeah GVHv2b9's great but... interest's dying and that's not good for the game nor is it for the <GRC> who play it. Myself included... (When I'm not too busy hunting creepers in Minecraft or playing TF2 but that's not the point.)

All this talk about giving it away to someone else, as uncomfortable as that is to think about. I would agree that the person who it is given to MUST be eager to carry it on. I would have loved to... But yeah it ain't gonna happen so I'm gonna keep hoping for an update...

[Ivory]

a new map or two

Both myself and Carthief have recently submitted a new map each. So yeah.

However, I'm just too busy with college to have any time for fixing up GvH. Else wise, I would offer to take over.

[Blox]

Ah, i remember that very odd modification someone made for GVH, based on weaknesses like pokemon, meh, it wasnt too entertaining.

Mostly because it wasn't meant to be entertaining, as it was just a minor edit. (Except for Jitterskull & Choke being able to survive a bit longer, because they got healed when they killed/damaged humans.)

I might take a shot at making an alternate lightning bow, but that probably won't be coming soon.
Because I have to make the stuff on my main computer, then getting it over to another to upload/discuss stuff. Not to mention

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[CarThief]

I personally wouldnt mind attempting to do said balance changes, i know ACS and DECORATE somewhat, if Cutman is looking for someone else to do it. Though my ways of coding may be a tad messy. :P
Im not as ambitious to add new classes though, i never was good with importing and making sprites or such resources anyway.

And im glad someone agrees to the lightning arrow thing. I guess they might deserve that kill if they can actually hit the most tiny target, atleast it makes them unable to retaliate easily when approached by an Creeper and stunned.

The idea for lightning damage reduce on Jitterskulls is mostly due to them being completely unable to dodge them! Unless of course they just want to dance around a bit and not kill anyone... Getting hit for 1/3 while attacking is alot less then 1/2. :P

[CutmanMike]

I believe the new wielder of iron fist that is GVH has been chosen. I shall make an announcement later on this