[OUTDATED THREAD] Class based modification (v9fh)

[Watzup7856]

Grenade Man is a big problem.

Not only is the rage gimmick stupid as fuck, the Grenadageddon is possibly the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen in a video game. Don't just punish players for playing the game, it should kill them too. Yea that's a great idea.

[Orange juice :l]

Grenademageddon's fuse needs to, at minimum, allow a class with normal walking speed to get from point blank to outside the danger zone with at least a second to spare (before considering unfavorable terrain, slowing effects, or other hazards)

[Bikdark]

If you're gonna complain about grenademan, at least complain about something that's actually a problem

[Emmanuelf06]

I wanted ask, Fireman, Ringman or Napalmman have a real rapidfire, so the damage was reduced, for the fun or shooting quickly, but isnt too much fast for the little damage? I know it's for a way to play it...
But when you spam with some class and don't kill them, it feels weird.
What about if you nerf slightly the rapidfire and make a damage a bit better ?...
GeminiMan nerf (ammo) is a good idea but its hard to use him, i suppose, it's to force us to not spam the clone.

[MusashiAA]

So I wanted to create a public Discord server pertinent to this mod. I asked once in a server, someone said yes, that's good enough for me.

https://discord.gg/0q5TXBVoNKraIWCv

Make use of it for complaints, comments, idle chat, voice chats for matches, anything. I'll try to keep an eye on it, making up rules as it goes, if it even goes.

[Lebowski]

I was wondering if it'd be possible for Crashman's crash bombs to be solid. An example of this being I shoot a crash bomb at a wall, and am able to jump on it to gain some height and/or get to a vantage point. I know a possible annoyance that could come from this is if I were to aim them at the ground, it'd probably stop players in their tracks (Unless it was rounded like a tiny hill maybe?). Sorry if my point isn't clear on this, if it's not let me know and I'll try to be more specific.

[ScrapHeap]

So are we gonna ignore topman's 20-damage-driveby's that only seem to not be a problem for hardman? How about how Crashman's hitstun that literally makes it a game-ender being hit at full health as anyone except aforementioned hardman?

[Ceridran]

So are we gonna ignore topman's 20-damage-driveby's?

that damage is pathetic

[ScrapHeap]

You're not seeing the problem here. He's doing almost 25 damage per GRAZED HIT. At the speed he goes and the rate that recharges? If you're not hit full on you're dying in about 3 seconds anyway.

And then there's crashman. Why the actual hell did he get a damage buff? He was completely fine before, but now he's just a faceroll.

[Orange juice :l]

The topman and crashman buffs (which we're aware were way too strong) are part of Bandaid so please direct bandaid-related comments to viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10146

[ScrapHeap]

My apologies, I'll go rant over there.

[Teleclast]

So right now in CTF I noticed that when this is on I lose all weapons when I grab the flag.

Is there a way to disable this? Unfortunately running a search on this thread came up with nothing for 'CTF'.

[Bikdark]

Thats intended, iirc. Hit your chasecan button, and you'll see that you turn into mm10's weapon archive thing. You revert back when you drop the flag or capture it

[Isaac940]

Yeah, you're intended to morph into the Weapon Archive to prevent stupidly easy captures with classes like Quick/Gyro. However, unless it works online and is just not working offline, something may have broke along the way. From what I can tell the skin isn't changing like it used to and i thought the archive could use copyweps, but you seem to not be collecting them now.

[Orange juice :l]

The idea is nice and all but it really goes both ways. Unless you have a flashman to cover your booty you're gonna get hunted down by a slashman or similar- CTF doesn't really work that well in classes at the moment and I don't suspect it ever can be, barring something drastic.