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January 03, 2011, 06:01:42 PM
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What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« on: January 03, 2011, 06:01:42 PM »
I decided to go nostalgic and review one of the earliest MM8BDM releases and found the famed Alpha Cutman Map. It is totally different from the current one and isn't symetric, like the current, while Alpha Gutsman is symetric but HUGE.

Don't know what I'm talking of? Well, experience it yourself:
http://www.mediafire.com/?56sjo21weoccofu

Use it with Doom2/FreeDoom2 IWAD. I'll TRY and get those maps out with SlumpEd, but don't have much hopes.

EDIT: Got the maps, but something... Odd... Happens. Neither maps have a music to call their own (guess they called from the PK3 instead) and Gutsman's spikes turns into Megamen with air to the wind (LOL! XD)

Anyways, here they go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?h67sssqyvcgj8xf
http://www.mediafire.com/?cfkb7015ubsrg51

The maps alone work with the current build of MM8BDM too, for some funny reason.

January 04, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 12:51:08 AM »
Great find, Tsuki.  :geek:

January 04, 2011, 01:05:42 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 01:05:42 AM »
The alpha was alpha for a reason. It was terrible.

January 04, 2011, 01:15:53 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 01:15:53 AM »
and that's why I never uploaded my Alpha. because really, it's a train wreck of a game.

Still, the Alpha proved that being extremely true to megaman in FPS  multiplayer format made it very, very unfun.

January 04, 2011, 01:38:37 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 01:38:37 AM »
Yet the removal of those two maps, specially counting that the Alpha Cutman is good for Roboenza and the Alpha Gutsman is good for DM, was a serious mistake. Could be kept, at least as "unlisted maps"

January 04, 2011, 01:41:16 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 01:41:16 AM »
Blarg! Burn them! Burn them with fire! The only purpose these maps served was for screenshots for the media to dribble over.

January 04, 2011, 01:58:12 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 01:58:12 AM »
But, still, I like them. It's a shame to trash such interesting and amusing maps.

January 04, 2011, 04:32:04 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 04:32:04 AM »
yeaaaah honestly i preffered the alpha cutman map than the current one  :?

January 04, 2011, 10:33:51 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 10:33:51 AM »
These were good times : )

January 04, 2011, 03:47:41 PM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 03:47:41 PM »
Quote from: "Zellough"
yeaaaah honestly i preffered the alpha cutman map than the current one  :?
The first time I saw Alpha Cutman and Gutsman map:
"So cool! Must see the full thing! I bet many maps will be like this!"

When I first saw the new Cutman map:
?_?
"No.. They didn't..."

When I first saw the new Gutsman map:
*Awesome Death*

January 04, 2011, 05:10:07 PM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 05:10:07 PM »
I admit, the layout of cutman's was very interesting

Cutman beta
Pros:
1. ALOT more room than the current one
2. true to the cutman stage platforming
3. as said earlier, it looks great for roboenza
4. the tunnel with the needle windows (what can I say, I love small tunnels with windows and interesting things behind them)

Cons:
1. very awkward to get to places sometimes
2. some areas are very tight and awkward to dodge in
3. the low area's kind of a one way area unless you have rush coil, only one path there and back
4. REALLY easy to fall and die making it kind of a bad idea for a deathmatch map (especially cause theres no block monster line, bots jump to there death every 3 seconds)


My verdict
Not too good of a deathmatch map, but it might be perfect for roboenza

Gutsman beta

Pros
alot of places to climb
(thats it)

Cons
1. Layout's kind of, ...meh :/
2. Only 4 weapons
3. The platforms are awkward to use
4. all and all, movement wise, the place is kinda small

Verdict
Not really all that great, might fork for duels maby but yeah, not that many stratigic moves you can make

January 07, 2011, 11:11:36 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 11:11:36 AM »
Perhaps maybe a future map might have the same layout but if mikey hated it so much then I guess the beta is all we have

January 07, 2011, 11:21:35 AM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 11:21:35 AM »
I gotta admit the Cutman map could be pretty fun for roboenza. If anyone is making a map pack for it chuck that crap in there if you want!

January 07, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
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Re: What happened to the old Cutman and Gutsman maps?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 03:12:02 PM »
Dude, I just so happen to be making a Roboenza map pack!

I'll "chuck that crap" in if everyone wants it  ;)