SmashBro's Wall of Blueprints (TOP SECRET - HUSHITY HUSH)

[Knux]

Some questions. Am I allowed to:

- Build more on the map, or do I have to follow the blueprint exactly?
- Use custom textures/music or do I have to use the stock ones only?

[Hallan Parva]

You're allowed to interpret the blueprints however you want. If it was just exact builds I'd be out of business! Just look at the contrast between "Smash Plant" (Roc Pack) and "Lava Lake" (AMP) for starters. It's the same blueprint, but vastly different stages. As for textures and music I don't really care as long as it's in good taste. I also request a copy of every map created from my blueprints, if you don't mind.

I know Blue's probably loading the missiles at my house right now because I said "in a week" and it's been at least three... so I guess I can put up my progress so far at the very least.

[Knux]

Since I am taking a break from editing my CTF maps (read: stressful stuff), I believe I will begin this map later on today. Not sure what I'll do with it, though. I think CSCM has enough maps from me (wanna leave space for others).

EDIT: If you could though, make a description of the things with a list. I have a hard time following your post, for some reason.

[Hallan Parva]

This took a bit longer to post than I had originally planned, but a least I got it up before midnight!

Happy birthday Bluebrawl. Thanks for putting up with my shit and making maps for me bro.

Here's a special blueprint just for you: Radius Thrust, the most popular bar in all of Cutter's Cove.



It's late over here and I had enough trouble putting up the blueprint in the first place... so a description will arrive tomorrow.

[TheDoc]

Reminds me of Hotel Megaman that Finitezero did.

[Hallan Parva]

NO

do NOT use that language around HERE young man!


Hotel Mega Man was basically three squares stacked on top of one another with more squares for rooms sticking out the sides and in the middle with a fourth large square on top as a roof. The layout was fine as far as hotels are concerned but absolutely HORRID for any actual gameplay. The fact that it had four floors didn't help much either. Also it was made by a furry for a roleplay group aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Radius Thrust is designed to look like a real-world location, yes, but it can also function in actual gameplay. The main floor and the lounge are wide-open areas good for sweeping attacks, whereas the lobby and the kitchen are more tightly-enclosed spaces useful for bouncing projectiles off the walls. Think of it like CSCM's Wily Kottage: some areas are pretty small and the whole map is shaped like someone's house, but you can still play a game of Deathmatch, Last Man Standing, or whatever else with reasonable success, and it's a fun map to play. Also it was Bluebrawl's birthday so I made him a thing that's not a square aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Also while I'm here and nobody else but Kapus is here too, I thought I might let you guys know that I'm posting two new blueprints in the next few days. I just wanted to get Radius Thrust up yesterday as soon as I could. Also, does anyone know what goes on a pirate ship besides cannons and treasure chests?

[Myroc]

Think of it like CSCM's Wily Kottage: some areas are pretty small and the whole map is shaped like someone's house, but you can still play a game of Deathmatch, Last Man Standing, or whatever else with reasonable success

Good one.

The map itself seems fairly decent, but I'd respect it a tad more if the kitchen also connected to the main area by a corridor to the right of the lounge table, otherwise it feels relatively linear. It's also ridiculously small, barely enough to fit three or four people at the most. Interesting concept, though. Definitely has potential.

[Hallan Parva]

... Surprisingly enough I never thought of putting a corridor there. That's actually not a bad idea.

Also I'm not sure if your concept of player size is the same as mine. Those circles next to the bar? Those are bar stools. People sit on those. Yes the map is small but it's not THAT small, I was thinking the map could comfortably house somewhere around 4 to 8 players and could fit up to 12 without feeling like cramped MM1CUT armpit.

I'd gauge the map somewhere around Guts Man's size, but since it lacks vertical variety it will undoubtedly feel smaller than that. It's certainly larger than Cut Man or Flame Man though.

[Myroc]

I'm not sure how you intend to expand the map to such a size without everything seeming disproportioned to no end. It appears like the map was designed as if a player occupied a 2x2 square of graph paper area, at least in relation to all the objects placed around the map, the various tables, the arcade machines, etc, with the only exception being the bar stools which are comparatively tiny in size, and at that size the map sure as hell can't house more than four without being cramped.

On the other side of the spectrum, if players only occupied a single graph paper square, then one would feel as if the map had been designed for giants, something that would feel right at home in CSCM, which isn't a good thing. Granted, it would give players a bit more room to maneuver, but that would result in a good deal of the map being flat space.

You need a more clear concept of what the size of an actual player is, and then reproportion the map after that. Although I'm sure that any mapmakers who would recreate this map would probably restructure it as they see fit, so maybe I'm just nitpicking.

[Hallan Parva]

Yes, I was intending for players to occupy a space of about 1.6 squares; one square would be a small / skinny platform like the edges of Blizzard Man's boat, whereas two squares would be a "comfortable" area for a player, like the large floating ice blocks on that same map. I guess I thought eight players would be a reasonable limit, though I can certainly see where you're coming from with the four player limit.

Regardless, thanks for the input. I always appreciate comments and criticism as it helps me to become better with my designs.

[xColdxFusionx]

Fun fact: That's actually the exact same scale as Doom Builder's default grid. [/themoreyouknow]

[Hallan Parva]

hey remember how I said I was putting up more maps

guess what I DIDN'T LIE THIS TIME


Chaos Shrine (warning: not original)

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numbers denote elevation levels, W for walls, CH is a chair, blah blah blah
shamelessly copied directly from Dissidia Final Fantasy
S is for statues, I was thinking Guts Man but if someone could sprite Garland THAT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME
I am such a bad person

Pandaemonium

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Elevation levels work a bit differently on this map. Numbers close to each other can be jumped between, but numbers with a larger gap can't. For example, a player can jump from a 2 to a 3 but they can't jump from a 2 to a 4 without using something like Item-1 / Rush Coil / another player's head. Most of the elevations are whole numbers but the two "stairs" sections use 2.6 and 3.3 if you can't read it.

"Floor Effect" describes this map's gimmick. When the round starts, some floors will be coloured blue, some will have red textures, and some will have a neutral purplish tint to them. Every 45 seconds an alarm will sound which alerts players to a stage change; blue panels will become red and floors which were red will turn blue. If a player stands on a red panel for too long they will take damage (preferably a spike will come out of the floor and poke 'em in the bum or somethin'); blue panels are safe like regular floors but they are coloured to let players know that they might become dangerous in the future.

Platforms (marked A and B) slowly float up and down. Their changing elevations are so players can have an easier time jumping between the platforms. The pits (or "Void Zones") don't instakill the player but will instead throw them upward (as if they touched a floor made of pure Wind Storm) at a cost of 10 damage. Also I mistakenly used the letter B for two different things so if you see a B by itself on a one-square panel with no number to the left of it I think it's safe to assume that's a moving platform.

Arrows mark ramps and the jagged lines in pencil represent the separation between normal areas and coloured ones. Oh, and I somehow forgot to mark a ramp in the bottom-right of the map (it's in between a 3R and a 4) so keep that in mind.

This map was inspired by Dissidia Final Fantasy but I wasn't a huge fan of their layout so I made a new one. Also if I directly ported the layout there would be pits EVERYWHERE and some jumps would be impossible to make with Mega Man.

EDIT: updated the frontpage with map tags I'M SO FANCY

[fortegigasgospel]

hey remember how I said I was putting up more maps

guess what I DIDN'T LIE THIS TIME


Chaos Shrine (warning: not original)

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numbers denote elevation levels, W for walls, CH is a chair, blah blah blah
shamelessly copied directly from Dissidia Final Fantasy
S is for statues, I was thinking Guts Man but if someone could sprite Garland THAT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME
I am such a bad person

Pandaemonium

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Elevation levels work a bit differently on this map. Numbers close to each other can be jumped between, but numbers with a larger gap can't. For example, a player can jump from a 2 to a 3 but they can't jump from a 2 to a 4 without using something like Item-1 / Rush Coil / another player's head. Most of the elevations are whole numbers but the two "stairs" sections use 2.6 and 3.3 if you can't read it.

"Floor Effect" describes this map's gimmick. When the round starts, some floors will be coloured blue, some will have red textures, and some will have a neutral purplish tint to them. Every 45 seconds an alarm will sound which alerts players to a stage change; blue panels will become red and floors which were red will turn blue. If a player stands on a red panel for too long they will take damage (preferably a spike will come out of the floor and poke 'em in the bum or somethin'); blue panels are safe like regular floors but they are coloured to let players know that they might become dangerous in the future.

Platforms (marked A and B) slowly float up and down. Their changing elevations are so players can have an easier time jumping between the platforms. The pits (or "Void Zones") don't instakill the player but will instead throw them upward (as if they touched a floor made of pure Wind Storm) at a cost of 10 damage. Also I mistakenly used the letter B for two different things so if you see a B by itself on a one-square panel with no number to the left of it I think it's safe to assume that's a moving platform.

Arrows mark ramps and the jagged lines in pencil represent the separation between normal areas and coloured ones. Oh, and I somehow forgot to mark a ramp in the bottom-right of the map (it's in between a 3R and a 4) so keep that in mind.

This map was inspired by Dissidia Final Fantasy but I wasn't a huge fan of their layout so I made a new one. Also if I directly ported the layout there would be pits EVERYWHERE and some jumps would be impossible to make with Mega Man.

EDIT: updated the frontpage with map tags I'M SO FANCY

Not bad, but if I'm making a Chaos Shrine I'm going straight out of FF1 baby.  

[Hallan Parva]

I am on a roll guys

thank Bluebrawl for bringing back my love of mapping


Avalon Island

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A simple map designed for Duels. Elevations use a "half-level" system; going from a 1 to a 2 is just a short hop whereas going from a 1 to a 3 is a full-height jump. Jumps from a level 1 to a level 4 should not be possible. The pit should be able to... well, be a pit! Players can totally walk off the edge and fall to their doom here, unlike in MM4DRI. Oh, CH is a chair like in the Chaos Shrine map.

The isolated 3 blocks and the two 4 blocks near the chair should look like... well, like blocks. They should "stand out" from the floor and wall textures, as if you could pick them up with Super Arm or something. The high shelf (marked 7~8 on the blueprint) is playable and it should be possible to reach it with three strategically placed Item-1's.

This map was inspired by the Avalon Island stage from Power Stone. If you need a rough guide or ideas for textures to use, here's a nice reference. YES I KNOW THE LAYOUT'S NOT THE SAME but I think this will work better with 8BDM so bear with me.

Rock Club

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TCG fever strikes again!

Another map meant for duel modes, this stage features rock formations and a small pit area near the center. The elevation scale isn't so much of a guideline as it is a rough scale here. As long as the rocks look nice I'm fine with whatever. The floor and the pit should have a sand texture but should NOT act like Pharaoh Man sand. In other words, everyone should move at normal speed.

I put some weapons here because I thought they would play nicely with the layout. Power Stone is powerful but isn't the "hold Fire to win" weapon because of all the elevation differences; the same is true for Water Wave. Dust Crusher is that 3HKO everyone loves and it's not named Silver Tomahawk, and Super Arm is there simply because it's a rock. Water Wave and Leaf Shield were originally added as "water" and "grass" weapons (it's the Rock Club after all), but then I realized Leaf Shield could just negate everything here so I put Bass Buster as well. If Leaf Shield proves to be too overpowering here then I suggest replacing it with Search Snake to represent the "science" type.

I always thought the Rock Club had one of the coolest layouts of the game. Rock gardens are neat.

Sanctuary Subterfuge

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Oh boy, here it comes... I'm sure this map will make for a LIVELY discussion.

So I was raging at Fusion Spire the other day for being impossible to draw (THOSE FREAKIN' 3D FLOORS MAN) when I decided to stop work on it and do something else. Beed28 has always been one of my favorite classes for being so darn fun and having a weapon for every situation, so I wanted to make him a map similar to one of the dungeons Volnutt goes digging in to retrieve those funky energy crystals. I started with the Bridge Room (bottom left) because I wanted a magnificent wide-open area with a bridge in it to set the scene, so to speak. Really I was thinking it would look super cool because Indiana Jones movies and what-not. A simple open room with a bridge seemed boring though, so I thought "what sort of traps would an ancient civilization put inside of their dungeons?"

The answer was Quick Beams. Really, the answer's always Quick Beams if you think about it.

From there, I tried putting in a room where it looked like the dungeon was falling apart due to old age, so the Decay Room (bottom right) was added next. Some of the otherwise perfectly solid floor has broken away to form pits, and I was thinking some of the textures there could be off-colour to signify rustiness or wearing down. A simple chamber with some pits seemed boring though, so I thought "what other things happen when an ancient civilization's dungeon starts to fall apart"? Blocks fall from the ceiling, of course! In the area I marked "Rock Zone" I was thinking there would be three actors on the roof that spawned rocks which fall down and shatter when they hit the floor (or a player). Each falling rock spawner would have different rates of spawning their rocks to give an impression of randomness. The rocks would do 15 damage if they hit a player; the rock fragments would be completely harmless.

Once I thought of the falling rock gimmick I sort of got carried away with thinking of traps to put in rooms, so the map sort of stopped being a Mega Man Legends dungeon and slowly morphed into a collection of gimmicks. In the Sand Room, the platforms marked "2?" were originally going to be at an elevation of 2, but I thought that might not work so well so maybe you could make those 1 elevation instead. Look above and you'll see the Conveyor Room. I put arrows on the belts to signify which direction they move; to help players notice the difference, you might want to take MM6YAM's conveyor textures and recolour them. Those textures have four frames of animation if I'm not mistaken whereas MM2MET's conveyor textures only have two frames; it would be easier to see whether a conveyor was moving left or right with the Yamato Man textures.

The last room (which I'm calling the Cliff Room for now) was originally going to have lava in it that freezes if you hit a pillar with an icey weapon, similar to Junk Man. However, I didn't think freezable lava was very fitting in an ancient civilization's dungeon, especially one with sand in it. I threw around some other ideas, like coating the floor in burnable oil, adding Elec Man lightning shooters into the walls between the pits (the red areas I wrote "WHAT" and "NOPE" next to) or making the pit behave like Pandaemonium's Void Zones (with some fog or something in the gap to help players see the difference between the Void Zone and the other instant death pits in the level), but I just couldn't decide what I wanted to do.

However, I know that I don't want the gap in the middle of the Cliff Room to be so open like that because it would let players reach the Elevation 4 area much easier, so I put some ideas for gap formations right here. (W denotes walls, by the way.) Honestly I like the third option (the one at the bottom) much better than the other two. I wasn't sure whether to keep the exterior curve or to truncate it to a point, so that's why it says "Hmmm?" right there.

When I finished the blueprint I thought it was a good idea, but a couple days later I thought it was stupid and too gimmicky so I almost threw it out.
One of my friends persuaded me otherwise though:

[09:02:49 PM] Harpy Lady: I think it's cool.
[09:02:59 PM] Bumper Smash Man: are you fucking serious
[09:03:18 PM] Harpy Lady: Yeah, it's not TOO over-the-top is it?
[09:03:51 PM] Harpy Lady: I mean, there's traps everywhere
[09:04:03 PM] Harpy Lady: but it's a good layout and you can still move around
[09:04:27 PM] Harpy Lady: It's like if that IX pyramid stage had a little brother ^_^
[09:04:36 PM] Bumper Smash Man: LOL
[09:04:51 PM] Bumper Smash Man: you're going to make me spit out my soda
[09:05:02 PM] Harpy Lady: lol

And that's why I wrote that little "joke" in the center there.

[Beed28]

Sanctuary Subterfuge

My reaction:

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Seriously, a Mega Man Legends themed map? That would be like the best thing ever. Someone has to make that.